Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the benefit it could be to me. Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have seen a definite improvement in my life. How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? I have a very limited income of just over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have seen discussed on this list. I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which might prove harmful. How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding oxygen. Maybe I could peace together a workable unit. On 26 Nov 2003 at 16:31, jill1313 wrote: > on hyperbaric oxygen: > > http://www.immunesupport.com/library/bulletinarticle.cfm? > ID=5201 & PROD=PH174 > > I hope that posted correctly. IF not, just go to immune support, its > up there today its on hbo in cfids > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Hi.......I'm wondering what benefits you have noticed from using h2o2 in your vaporizer.....can you comment on it?........how long have you been doing it....?.........how much do you use?.......thanks...........Robb Re: another good article DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the benefit it could be to me. Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have seen a definite improvement in my life. How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? I have a very limited income of just over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have seen discussed on this list. I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which might prove harmful. How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding oxygen. Maybe I could peace together a workable unit. On 26 Nov 2003 at 16:31, jill1313 wrote: > on hyperbaric oxygen: > > http://www.immunesupport.com/library/bulletinarticle.cfm? > ID=5201 & PROD=PH174 > > I hope that posted correctly. IF not, just go to immune support, its > up there today its on hbo in cfids > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Ed McCabe, in " Flood your body wihtr oxygen " says he no longer recommends drinking H2o2 to people in the USA only becasue he says that we can afford other methods. Then he goes on to highly recommend it for people in 3rd world countries ad the best and cheapest form of getting oxygen into the system. Best, Ken Re: another good article DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the benefit it could be to me. Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have seen a definite improvement in my life. How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? I have a very limited income of just over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have seen discussed on this list. I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which might prove harmful. How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding oxygen. Maybe I could peace together a workable unit. On 26 Nov 2003 at 16:31, jill1313 wrote: > on hyperbaric oxygen: > > http://www.immunesupport.com/library/bulletinarticle.cfm? > ID=5201 & PROD=PH174 > > I hope that posted correctly. IF not, just go to immune support, its > up there today its on hbo in cfids > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 > Ed McCabe, in " Flood your body wihtr oxygen " says he no longer >recommends drinking H2o2 to people in the USA only becasue he says >that we can afford other methods. Then he goes on to highly >recommend it for people in 3rd world countries ad the best and >cheapest form of getting oxygen into the system. Best, Ken This begs of further clarification. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 > DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the benefit it could be to me. > Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have seen a definite improvement in > my life. Such as? > How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? Are you doing any exercise? I have a very limited income of just > over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have seen discussed on this list. As Ken said that Ed McCabe said, you are from the United States, you can afford it!): > I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which might prove harmful. > How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding oxygen. Maybe I could peace > together a workable unit. Don't jump into something possibly dangerous. Even a cheap non- oxygen feed ozone machine can give you good results if you put you body in a plastic bag. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Hydrogen peroxide can do the same thing, put more oxygen into your body. Gale ^i^ http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com Painting the concrete green doesn't mean you have a garden! Re: another good article > DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the benefit it could be to me. > Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have seen a definite improvement in > my life. Such as? > How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? Are you doing any exercise? I have a very limited income of just > over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have seen discussed on this list. As Ken said that Ed McCabe said, you are from the United States, you can afford it!): > I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which might prove harmful. > How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding oxygen. Maybe I could peace > together a workable unit. Don't jump into something possibly dangerous. Even a cheap non- oxygen feed ozone machine can give you good results if you put you body in a plastic bag. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 h202 does not do the same thing as hyperbaric oxygen, not by a long shot. HBO pushes oxygen into the plasma and therefore into all the tissues. THat's why you can help heal brain trauma, CP, stroke, etc, because you can actually force oxygen into areas where nerves and blood vessels have died, and start regrowth. In addition, the combination of pressure and 02 shifts you to a parsympathetic state which is why many patients including me get peaceful and even sleepy in the chamber. There are all kinds of benefits to hbo that don't overlap with h202. You get, even in my mild portable chamber, up to 400% more oxygen in all the tissues. This is not to say h202 isn't useful, although it seems to me from what I've read that ozone is more effective. I've never heard of any lymies cured from h202 even IV, but a few seem to have been cured with ozone. I bought more h202 and I like it in my bath and maybe I will try a small amount i a colema and I certainly use it with water every day in my waterpik which has helped my gums and teeth. But as for making your own tank unless you are an engineer, it could be dangerous...so in such case I agree, try h202 or ozone or something affordable. It is unfortunate more conditions are not covered by insurance fo rhbo but they're not. > > DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the benefit > it could be to me. > > Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have seen a > definite improvement in > > my life. > > Such as? > > > > How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? > > Are you doing any exercise? > > > I have a very limited income of just > > over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have > seen discussed on this list. > > As Ken said that Ed McCabe said, you are from the United States, you > can afford it!): > > > > > > > > I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which might > prove harmful. > > How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding oxygen. > Maybe I could peace > > together a workable unit. > > Don't jump into something possibly dangerous. Even a cheap non- > oxygen feed ozone machine can give you good results if you put you > body in a plastic bag. > > Dick > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 They do have alternative insurance, look to the net. Gale ^i^ http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com Painting the concrete green doesn't mean you have a garden! Re: another good article h202 does not do the same thing as hyperbaric oxygen, not by a long shot. HBO pushes oxygen into the plasma and therefore into all the tissues. THat's why you can help heal brain trauma, CP, stroke, etc, because you can actually force oxygen into areas where nerves and blood vessels have died, and start regrowth. In addition, the combination of pressure and 02 shifts you to a parsympathetic state which is why many patients including me get peaceful and even sleepy in the chamber. There are all kinds of benefits to hbo that don't overlap with h202. You get, even in my mild portable chamber, up to 400% more oxygen in all the tissues. This is not to say h202 isn't useful, although it seems to me from what I've read that ozone is more effective. I've never heard of any lymies cured from h202 even IV, but a few seem to have been cured with ozone. I bought more h202 and I like it in my bath and maybe I will try a small amount i a colema and I certainly use it with water every day in my waterpik which has helped my gums and teeth. But as for making your own tank unless you are an engineer, it could be dangerous...so in such case I agree, try h202 or ozone or something affordable. It is unfortunate more conditions are not covered by insurance fo rhbo but they're not. > > DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the benefit > it could be to me. > > Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have seen a > definite improvement in > > my life. > > Such as? > > > > How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? > > Are you doing any exercise? > > > I have a very limited income of just > > over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have > seen discussed on this list. > > As Ken said that Ed McCabe said, you are from the United States, you > can afford it!): > > > > > > > > I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which might > prove harmful. > > How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding oxygen. > Maybe I could peace > > together a workable unit. > > Don't jump into something possibly dangerous. Even a cheap non- > oxygen feed ozone machine can give you good results if you put you > body in a plastic bag. > > Dick > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Benefits I think are that I have more energy and less pain. My calf muscles used to complain when I walked an eighth of a mile. Now they don't. My back and hips bother me slightly less and I have a generally better stamina to do my gardening. When I started treatment I couldn't work hard or long enough to raise my pulse above a hundred. Now I limit myself deliberately regardless of how I feel to 115 with frequent highs of 120. I know what it is instantly because I have a polar heart rate monitor. I often wear it to bed just to see if my over night resting pulse is changing. I strongly suspect it has dropped at least 5 beats per minute, though I have not documented this accurately. Memory doesn't serve me well enough to say how long I have been on it. Imagine, if you will, how many double capfulls might be in a 16 ounce bottle of three percent peroxide. I finished that bottle a week ago and I am working on my second bottle. Like a lot of us I have more luck remembering my childhood better than I do last month:>) sideline to rob. I just noticed your last name. Mine is allAn. On 26 Nov 2003 at 16:33, Robb wrote: > Hi.......I'm wondering what benefits you have noticed from using h2o2 > in your vaporizer.....can you comment on it?........how long have you > been doing it....?.........how much do you > use?.......thanks...........Robb > Re: another good article > > > DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the benefit > it could be to me. Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at > night I have seen a definite improvement in > my life. > How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? I have a very > limited income of just > over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have seen > discussed on this list. I need the least expensive possible, not > the cheapest, which might prove harmful. > How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding oxygen. > Maybe I could peace > together a workable unit. > > On 26 Nov 2003 at 16:31, jill1313 wrote: > > > on hyperbaric oxygen: > > > > http://www.immunesupport.com/library/bulletinarticle.cfm? > > ID=5201 & PROD=PH174 > > > > I hope that posted correctly. IF not, just go to immune support, > its > up there today its on hbo in cfids > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Perhaps you misunderstand me. Only certain indications for HBO are covered by insurance, and those are very limited. Lyme for instance, CFIDS, stroke, CP, brain injury, these are NOT covered. > > > DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the > benefit > > it could be to me. > > > Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have > seen a > > definite improvement in > > > my life. > > > > Such as? > > > > > > > How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? > > > > Are you doing any exercise? > > > > > > I have a very limited income of just > > > over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have > > seen discussed on this list. > > > > As Ken said that Ed McCabe said, you are from the United States, > you > > can afford it!): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which > might > > prove harmful. > > > How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding > oxygen. > > Maybe I could peace > > > together a workable unit. > > > > Don't jump into something possibly dangerous. Even a cheap non- > > oxygen feed ozone machine can give you good results if you put > you > > body in a plastic bag. > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I am surely not an engineer. My intention is to use the tank as a source of pure oxygen to use in a devise to create ozone. That should not be as dangerous as trying to build a pressure chamber myself. It sounds like using pure O2 would be far better than using ambient air which is only around 20% O2. If the only difference is in the amount of ozone produced then using ambient air would be less expensive. On 27 Nov 2003 at 3:29, jill1313 wrote: > h202 does not do the same thing as hyperbaric oxygen, not by a long > shot. HBO pushes oxygen into the plasma and therefore into all the > tissues. THat's why you can help heal brain trauma, CP, stroke, etc, > because you can actually force oxygen into areas where nerves and > blood vessels have died, and start regrowth. In addition, the > combination of pressure and 02 shifts you to a parsympathetic state > which is why many patients including me get peaceful and even sleepy > in the chamber. There are all kinds of benefits to hbo that don't > overlap with h202. You get, even in my mild portable chamber, up to > 400% more oxygen in all the tissues. > > This is not to say h202 isn't useful, although it seems to me from > what I've read that ozone is more effective. I've never heard of any > lymies cured from h202 even IV, but a few seem to have been cured with > ozone. > > I bought more h202 and I like it in my bath and maybe I will try a > small amount i a colema and I certainly use it with water every day in > my waterpik which has helped my gums and teeth. > > But as for making your own tank unless you are an engineer, it could > be dangerous...so in such case I agree, try h202 or ozone or something > affordable. It is unfortunate more conditions are not covered by > insurance fo rhbo but they're not. > > > > > DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the > benefit > > it could be to me. > > > Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have > seen a > > definite improvement in > > > my life. > > > > Such as? > > > > > > > How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? > > > > Are you doing any exercise? > > > > > > I have a very limited income of just > > > over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have > > seen discussed on this list. > > > > As Ken said that Ed McCabe said, you are from the United States, > you > > can afford it!): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which > might > > prove harmful. > > > How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding > oxygen. > > Maybe I could peace > > > together a workable unit. > > > > Don't jump into something possibly dangerous. Even a cheap non- > > oxygen feed ozone machine can give you good results if you put > you > > body in a plastic bag. > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 That makes sense. I just worried you were going to try and build a chamber at home :-) > > > > DAM! I do wish I could convince my V.A. doctors of the > > benefit > > > it could be to me. > > > > Since I began using H2O2 in my vaporizer at night I have > > seen a > > > definite improvement in > > > > my life. > > > > > > Such as? > > > > > > > > > > How else might I get more oxygen into my body???? > > > > > > Are you doing any exercise? > > > > > > > > > I have a very limited income of just > > > > over 10,000 a year so I can't afford most of the methods I have > > > seen discussed on this list. > > > > > > As Ken said that Ed McCabe said, you are from the United States, > > you > > > can afford it!): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need the least expensive possible, not the cheapest, which > > might > > > prove harmful. > > > > How much are some of you paying for a tank of welding > > oxygen. > > > Maybe I could peace > > > > together a workable unit. > > > > > > Don't jump into something possibly dangerous. Even a cheap non- > > > oxygen feed ozone machine can give you good results if you put > > you > > > body in a plastic bag. > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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