Re: Six attacks & six flushes in 2 years

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Hi Ken,

I don't think it's a matter of 'eating perfectly', I think

it's a matter of eliminating ALL of the sludge and gunk and

stones, not just from the gallbladder and liver, but also

form every other organ in the body, and then you must allow

time for the organs to heal. Personally, I would allow at

LEAST 2 years of 'eating perfectly' before I would start

'expecting' not to be affected by 'a little' cheating.

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From: <Kalexan328@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:11 PM

Subject: Six attacks & six flushes in 2 years

> I have been flushing stones for two years now. After the

first flush

> I went 9 months without an attack. Now I get an attack

about once

> every 3-4 months. The last attack came 3 weeks after a

flush...

> yes, I was eating an egg roll!

>

> Is my experience normal? Do those of us with sludgey

gallbladders

> face a lifetime of attacks unless we eat perfectly?

>

> Does anyone take a pain killer when they get an attack or

do you have

> the baby natually like I do? I think I need some pain

relief!

>

> Thanks,

>

> ken

>

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While I was having bad attacks last year my doctor had given me a prescription for roxyset. I haven't had to use if for gallbladder attacks since October of last year, but I have used it for my arthritis when its gotten a bit too much to handle. From February to October of last year I had 4 attacks that were sever enough for me to need quite a bit stronger pain management controller than 4 or 5 roxysets would give me.

DaleDa_@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Kalexan328@...

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:11 AM

Subject: Six attacks & six flushes in 2 years

I have been flushing stones for two years now. After the first flush I went 9 months without an attack. Now I get an attack about once every 3-4 months. The last attack came 3 weeks after a flush... yes, I was eating an egg roll!Is my experience normal? Do those of us with sludgey gallbladders face a lifetime of attacks unless we eat perfectly?Does anyone take a pain killer when they get an attack or do you have the baby natually like I do? I think I need some pain relief!Thanks,kenYou are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the gallstonesegroups.

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Thanks Dale,

My MD father-in-law believes that no pain killer should be used for

gallstones as it may mask the pain of a blocked duck... leading to

major problems. Funny... he is the biggest baby when it comes to pain

and is always treating himself for the most minor problems!

--- In gallstonesegroups, " Dale " <Da_@e...>

wrote:

> While I was having bad attacks last year my doctor had given me a

prescription for roxyset. I haven't had to use if for gallbladder

attacks since October of last year, but I have used it for my

arthritis when its gotten a bit too much to handle. From February to

October of last year I had 4 attacks that were sever enough for me to

need quite a bit stronger pain management controller than 4 or 5

roxysets would give me.

>

> Dale

> Da_@m...

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Kalexan328@a...

> gallstonesegroups

> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:11 AM

> Subject: Six attacks & six flushes in 2 years

>

>

> I have been flushing stones for two years now. After the first

flush

> I went 9 months without an attack. Now I get an attack about

once

> every 3-4 months. The last attack came 3 weeks after a flush...

> yes, I was eating an egg roll!

>

> Is my experience normal? Do those of us with sludgey

gallbladders

> face a lifetime of attacks unless we eat perfectly?

>

> Does anyone take a pain killer when they get an attack or do you

have

> the baby natually like I do? I think I need some pain relief!

>

> Thanks,

>

> ken

>

>

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<<Does anyone take a pain killer when they get an attack or do you have

the baby natually like I do? <<

I'm sludgey too. I've had a few leftover percosets from an attack three

years ago. They are WONDERFUL. About a half-hour after I take one, the

pain just melts. I only have one left. I've been thinking of asking my

doctor if I can have some more. I only got about six originally, and they

have lasted about three years, so it's not like I'm always popping them.

Unfortunately, i think we are subject to attacks unless we eat well. An

occassional lapse is ok, unless the lapse lasts for a few days. My

chiropractor told me to give up red meat and dairy, neither of which I ate

much of anyway. I decided to try it, and in one weeks time I can now not

even feel tenderness under my rib even if I push around under there. I've

also lost 4 pounds. I may stick with this for a while, to see if it

continues to work.

Has anyone else been told to avoid dairy products?

Debra

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> From: Kalexan328@...

> Does anyone take a pain killer when they get an attack or do you

> have the baby natually like I do? I think I need some pain relief!

I never even thought of taking painkillers, believe it or not (well, I

don't normally anyway). Especially after I throw up; then I know it'll

happen again, and there's no use taking an oral painkiller then (in my

mind). So I ride it out. And while it is incredibly painful, it isn't

the same as having a baby naturally . Haven't done it yet, myself -

but will next time! (First one ended up a c-section; his first

birthday is today!)

Amy

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--- D B <fairyflight@...> wrote:

> chiropractor told me to give up red meat and dairy, neither of which

> I ate much of anyway. I decided to try it, and in one weeks time I

> can now not even feel tenderness under my rib even if I push around

> under there. I've also lost 4 pounds. I may stick with this for a

> while, to see if it continues to work.

>

> Has anyone else been told to avoid dairy products?

Good for you Debra! I still get tenderness, but I haven't been

conscious of it until now (after I got my diagnosis). I'm not that

diligent . However, I have noticed that dairy is a trigger for me.

I haven't isolated anything else, yet. I'm glad I already like other

" milks " - soy , nut, rice. I love my cereal...

Amy

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[Guest guest]

avoiding dairy products is a major tenet of Dr. Cabot's Liver Cleansing

Diet

D B wrote:

>

> <<Does anyone take a pain killer when they get an attack or do you have

> the baby natually like I do? <<

>

> I'm sludgey too. I've had a few leftover percosets from an attack three

> years ago. They are WONDERFUL. About a half-hour after I take one, the

> pain just melts. I only have one left. I've been thinking of asking my

> doctor if I can have some more. I only got about six originally, and they

> have lasted about three years, so it's not like I'm always popping them.

>

> Unfortunately, i think we are subject to attacks unless we eat well. An

> occassional lapse is ok, unless the lapse lasts for a few days. My

> chiropractor told me to give up red meat and dairy, neither of which I ate

> much of anyway. I decided to try it, and in one weeks time I can now not

> even feel tenderness under my rib even if I push around under there. I've

> also lost 4 pounds. I may stick with this for a while, to see if it

> continues to work.

>

> Has anyone else been told to avoid dairy products?

>

> Debra

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