Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 I've got to get in the shower and on to work, but first things first. Stop eating corn, wheat and dairy. Find a source for grass-fed beef if at all possible. If not, or in the meantime enjoy fish (you'll learn the best ones soon :-) Also become very good friends with green leafy vegetables and enjoy fruit, but in smaller amounts than possibly you're used to. And however you can do this with your health concerns, do some vigourous exercise. Be smart about the exercise, but 50% of how you feel will be in your exercise. Sleep peacefully at night :-) Have a good one and everyone else please feel free to expand on or critique my words :-) Tom Type O, Non-Secretor Arlington, Texas Help I'm new Hello everyone, I just joined this list and I need some help, I have no ideal what to do. I know that I have fibromyalgia and hypothyroidism to name a few. I also have O neg.blood. Please help so I can get started to feeling better. Thanks Suzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Suzy, Hi and welcome to the list. Don't hesitate to ask any questions that come to mind. Have you read any of the books? Eat Right 4 Your Type gives the basics. O's especially avoid wheat (We can eat Ezekiel or Manna Bread because it is sprouted. The damaging part is sprouted out.), potatoes (but we can eat sweet potatoes), corn, dairy, black tea, and coffee. In the book, Dr. D'Adamo suggests that we slowly drop the avoids. The book will give you a list of foods and explain what we need. It is an older list, which has changed a bit over time. See if you can find this book in your library. That way you can read the basics and see if you want to give this way of living a good try. You may find that just dropping wheat and dairy your fibromyalgia gets better. I know that my arthritis stopped with this way of eating. You might also look to see if your library has Eat Right 4 Your Type Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia. It will have later lists as well as protocols for different health problems.We'll be glad to answer any questions you might have in your reading. ---- Original Message ----- From: " C. " <suzy1@...> < > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:24 AM Subject: Help I'm new > Hello everyone, I just joined this list and I need some help, I have no ideal what to do. I know that I have fibromyalgia and hypothyroidism to name a few. I also have O neg.blood. Please help so I can get started to feeling better. Thanks Suzy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 ditto Help I'm new Hello everyone, I just joined this list and I need some help, I have no ideal what to do. I know that I have fibromyalgia and hypothyroidism to name a few. I also have O neg.blood. Please help so I can get started to feeling better. Thanks Suzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 Suzy, How are things going? :-) Tom Type O, Non-Secretor Arlington, TX Help I'm new Hello everyone, I just joined this list and I need some help, I have no ideal what to do. I know that I have fibromyalgia and hypothyroidism to name a few. I also have O neg.blood. Please help so I can get started to feeling better. Thanks Suzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 In a message dated 8/6/2003 10:15:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, suzy1@... writes: > we are getting fresh corn out of the garden and it is so good this time of > the year. I also drink a lot of milk, cheese and we use real butter and of > course it's great on corn. Increase the butter and lose everything else---LOL. I miss corn this time of year too. I get calcium from green veggies. Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 In a message dated 8/6/2003 10:15:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, suzy1@... writes: > I think this is going to be really hard for me... > > It is hard but the benefits are worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 Tom and all others, thanks for the info but we are getting fresh corn out of the garden and it is so good this time of the year. I also drink a lot of milk, cheese and we use real butter and of course it's great on corn. I see I am going to need a lot of help. What can we drink? I need the milk for my calcium. I do like fish and seafood. Since I have fibro I can't do a lot of exercise since it makes me hurt worse. I do a walking tape where I stand and walk in place but I have to be careful not to overdo. Where do you get grass fed beef? I think this is going to be really hard for me but I will give it a try. I will go to the library and see if I can find some books. Thanks again, Suzy Help I'm new Hello everyone, I just joined this list and I need some help, I have no ideal what to do. I know that I have fibromyalgia and hypothyroidism to name a few. I also have O neg.blood. Please help so I can get started to feeling better. Thanks Suzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 well, I hate to be the one to tell you you have to loose the milk, cheese and corn too, of course, to feel better, Sorry. You do not need milk for calcium. You know the old saying: milk is ment for calves..It actually depletes your body of calcium. You can get calcium in may other ways, broccoli, dark green veggies, fish w.bones etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 Let Me qualify this by saying I really am not qualified other than knowing the difference it has made for me and so many others. It's hard for me to look back and remember exactly all I went through in saying good-bye permanently to the avoids. I do know this, its no longer difficult to avoid them. Be encouraged by the fact that your tastes will change. The damage the avoids cause don't take place in the mouth so its altogether likely you love the taste, but don't base your health and all the price you pay with the pain you have on the first 6 inches of your digestive tract (i.e. your mouth). The key to changing your taste is just to eat something again and again. You simply develop a taste for it. I've done it several times in my life. Think of your immune system as an army of soldiers. When you eat avoids you are diverting high numbers of your soldiers to remove the avoids rather than to focus on your maladies. This is why we say avoid, not just to be difficult. We want to see all your soldiers focusing on restoring your health. See the 10-15 minute excitement of corn with cheese or milk is kind of miniscule. As for butter, if you will make it into ghee (by removing the dairy) you can still use it (but please not on the corn :-P) There are many sources for calcium, in fact you can kill two birds with one stone by eating lots of collard greens (Its not unusual for me to eat 15 cups a day). Collards are quite high in calcium. As for grass-fed beef, well, the world is quite upside down on this one. This is an oversimplification, but its how I look at it. About a century ago cattlemen somehow came upon the idea that calves grow and get fat and ready for sale very quickly when fed grains. Any grocery store you go in will proudly herald their " grain-fed beef. " If these cattle were humans the cattle media would be bemoaning the obesity epidemic in cattle. These are not healthy animals they sell as beef. Their Omega 6 count is quite high and Omega 3's are quite low (You want the reverse) and their Arachidonic Acid content is very high. These two factors have a powerful vasso-constrictive effect (constricts blood flow). On the other hand, grass-fed beef has a much higher Omega 3 to Omega 6 rate and very low amounts of Arachidonic Acid content. Thee two factors have a stronger vasso-dilative effect (increases blood flow). You do want your blood to flow better :-) I am fortunate to live in North Texas where two of our chain stores sell 98% fat free Longhorn grass-fed beef by the pound ($3.99 on sale!). I hope this helps a little. Lets keep the dialogue going. And listen to all the voices on this board, especially . He knows of which he speaks. Tom Type O, Non-Secretor Arlington, TX Re: Help I'm new Tom and all others, thanks for the info but we are getting fresh corn out of the garden and it is so good this time of the year. I also drink a lot of milk, cheese and we use real butter and of course it's great on corn. I see I am going to need a lot of help. What can we drink? I need the milk for my calcium. I do like fish and seafood. Since I have fibro I can't do a lot of exercise since it makes me hurt worse. I do a walking tape where I stand and walk in place but I have to be careful not to overdo. Where do you get grass fed beef? I think this is going to be really hard for me but I will give it a try. I will go to the library and see if I can find some books. Thanks again, Suzy Help I'm new Hello everyone, I just joined this list and I need some help, I have no ideal what to do. I know that I have fibromyalgia and hypothyroidism to name a few. I also have O neg.blood. Please help so I can get started to feeling better. Thanks Suzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 Tom, My son has just moved to the Dallas area, actually , North of Plano. I know Whole Foods is one of the stores you are talking about. What is the name of the other? I also wanted to thank you for that analogy you gave for D in Ontario. Help I'm new > > > > Hello everyone, I just joined this list and I need some help, I have no > ideal what to do. I know that I have fibromyalgia and hypothyroidism to > name > a few. I also have O neg.blood. Please help so I can get started to > feeling > better. Thanks Suzy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 The other store is Tom Thumb. Tom Thumb and Whole Foods sell Springerhill brand Longhorn grass-fed ground beef. The regular price is $4.89/lb at Tom Thumb and $5.99/lb at Whole Foods. Tom Thumb has regular sales at $3.99/lb and a few times a year they mark it down to $2.99/lb. Springerhill raises their longhorn cattle on a ranch near Hillsboro so it is a local operation. A lot of elite athletes purchase Springerhill because of the quality of the protein. I actually grill it in some olive oil at low temperatures to add some fat back in! I've talked to the guy who owns it, Steve (can't think of his last name) and he's a great guy. Hope this helps! Tom Re: Help I'm new Tom, My son has just moved to the Dallas area, actually , North of Plano. I know Whole Foods is one of the stores you are talking about. What is the name of the other? I also wanted to thank you for that analogy you gave for D in Ontario. Help I'm new > > > > Hello everyone, I just joined this list and I need some help, I have no > ideal what to do. I know that I have fibromyalgia and hypothyroidism to > name > a few. I also have O neg.blood. Please help so I can get started to > feeling > better. Thanks Suzy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Hello I have just had by lapband surgery on Friday, March 24th and I feel as if I made the wrong choice. I'm hungry and full at the same time. I have back pain in the middle of my back. And I feel as if I will never be able to eat again. Sorry I'm whinning but I'm scared and I don't know anyone who knows about this. Can anyone help????? Please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Let's be realistic here ... someone has cut you open, poked around your insides and wrapped a device around a major part of your digestive system. Your body has been insulted and will take a little time to heal. You're four days out from surgery, I know I was still recovering at this point and most people on the list here will probably tell you the same thing. Follow your doctor's instructions and remember that it took you a long time to get this fat and it will take you a while to get to your goal. Don't try to rush things - it will be a while before your body and your band are ready to go to work. My best, . dajforjesus6 wrote: >Hello > >I have just had by lapband surgery on Friday, March 24th and I feel as >if I made the wrong choice. I'm hungry and full at the same time. I >have back pain in the middle of my back. And I feel as if I will >never be able to eat again. Sorry I'm whinning but I'm scared and I >don't know anyone who knows about this. Can anyone help????? Please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Yea, Hang in there. I had a lot of scar tissue to dig through, so I was sore ad slow for quite a while. But I got up to speed and am walking my first half marathon in May. Once you start your fills and get use to eating and living with the band, you'll be on your way!! Where the Redwoods Meet The Pacific Ocean Barb McGraw~Lap Band Dr. Krahn ~ 18 May 05 www.parkviewbariatrics.com 285/225/170 -- Re: Help I'm new Let's be realistic here ... someone has cut you open, poked around your insides and wrapped a device around a major part of your digestive system. Your body has been insulted and will take a little time to heal. You're four days out from surgery, I know I was still recovering at this point and most people on the list here will probably tell you the same thing. Follow your doctor's instructions and remember that it took you a long time to get this fat and it will take you a while to get to your goal. Don't try to rush things - it will be a while before your body and your band are ready to go to work. My best, . dajforjesus6 wrote: >Hello > >I have just had by lapband surgery on Friday, March 24th and I feel as >if I made the wrong choice. I'm hungry and full at the same time. I >have back pain in the middle of my back. And I feel as if I will >never be able to eat again. Sorry I'm whinning but I'm scared and I >don't know anyone who knows about this. Can anyone help????? Please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 As others have pointed out, you're still healing. You'll be able to eat again, guaranteed. Where are you? What guidance has your doctor given? Is there a local support group? On the " wrong choice " , most us have had it about the band at some time. And I'm sure ALL of us have had those second thoughts about other things.... " should I really have married him? " " Why did I switch to THIS job? " " Why did I take this course instead of a different one? " , and on and on. We do that because we're human and all of our brains go a little nuts at times... Hang in there.... dan Tuesday, March 28, 2006, 11:50:16 AM, you wrote: d> I have just had by lapband surgery on Friday, March 24th and I feel as d> if I made the wrong choice. I'm hungry and full at the same time. I d> have back pain in the middle of my back. And I feel as if I will d> never be able to eat again. Sorry I'm whinning but I'm scared and I d> don't know anyone who knows about this. Can anyone help????? Please? Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 323/209/199 Age 63 The road goes on forever.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Daj, Number one, try to calm down. You did not make a bad choice. You WILL be able to eat again. Right now you are swollen from surgery and need to heal. The hungry you feel is what we like to call " head hunger " your head is saying, Oh my! I haven't eaten I must eat! But your digestive system is saying I am irritated, please don't feed me. Listen to your body, not your head. Please stay hydrated and follow your doctors instructions and you will feel better in a day or so. Marie --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Thank you! Okay more water. I can do that. But my stomach is really growling. I can hear and feel it, but in my chest I'm quite full. Does that make sence? DAJ Marie <catgal1968@...> wrote: Daj, Number one, try to calm down. You did not make a bad choice. You WILL be able to eat again. Right now you are swollen from surgery and need to heal. The hungry you feel is what we like to call " head hunger " your head is saying, Oh my! I haven't eaten I must eat! But your digestive system is saying I am irritated, please don't feed me. Listen to your body, not your head. Please stay hydrated and follow your doctors instructions and you will feel better in a day or so. Marie --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 It really helps to attend some local support groups, too. It's a good idea to make contact even before banding. we;'re all happy to help you, but we cannot help as much as someone actually there with you. This is a new experience for ALL of us, and there are many new feelings, concerns, and questions. learn all you can and ask anytghing you like. But always call your doctor for any serious problems or cincerns. You'll feel a bit better every day. Sandy R > > Hello > > I have just had by lapband surgery on Friday, March 24th and I feel as > if I made the wrong choice. I'm hungry and full at the same time. I > have back pain in the middle of my back. And I feel as if I will > never be able to eat again. Sorry I'm whinning but I'm scared and I > don't know anyone who knows about this. Can anyone help????? Please? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 My stomach still does that. My friend and I always laugh when it happens because it is SOOO LOUD. And I can feel it too. Just ignore it and know in your mind that you are full. :-) Audrey Dr. Oh banded 08/02/05 295/210/150 dana johnson <dajforjesus@...> wrote: Thank you! Okay more water. I can do that. But my stomach is really growling. I can hear and feel it, but in my chest I'm quite full. Does that make sence? DAJ Marie <catgal1968@...> wrote: Daj, Number one, try to calm down. You did not make a bad choice. You WILL be able to eat again. Right now you are swollen from surgery and need to heal. The hungry you feel is what we like to call " head hunger " your head is saying, Oh my! I haven't eaten I must eat! But your digestive system is saying I am irritated, please don't feed me. Listen to your body, not your head. Please stay hydrated and follow your doctors instructions and you will feel better in a day or so. Marie --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Dana, There are lots of things to UN-learn with banding too! It's really a whole new life! Most people are swollen and irritated for a few days after surgery, and can't drink much. As you heal, you'll feel better and be able to eat more. your usual hunger will often return within a few weeks or less. Until you get to a good fill level later, do your best to choose good foods, limit quantities, and start getting some good dily exercise. You may be able to lose some good weight even before a good fill, with honest effort. The truth is, no matter what we all thought, that stomach growling does NOT mean you ar hungry and must eat. the stomach normally makes a lot of noise, it's just that we always had food in there to muffle it. now that we are (gasp!) actually eating less and there is sometimes very little in there - we can more easily hear the noises. They lessen with time, and you won't even notice them later. One of the other big things we need to UN-learn is that myth about " the less i eat, the more i will lose. " This didn't work before (or we would not have gotten fat) and it doesn't work now. If we eat too little, out bodies feel threatened and refuse to lose fat. 1200- 1500 cal a day is as little as we should ever go (after we're healed from surgery - at first, it may be hard for a week-2 to get this much in). We've all been through what you're going through now, and we'll help you and support you any way we can. then, maybe you'll help support the guys following YOU. We're all in this together. Sandy R > > Thank you! Okay more water. I can do that. But my stomach is really growling. I can hear and feel it, but in my chest I'm quite full. Does that make sence? > DAJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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