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Does the nightly reflux coincide with the bedtime snack? I always

hear you should not eat too close to bedtime as the food can still be

in the pouch when you lay down. Before heading off for a slight

unfill (which you may need to do anyway), I would try stopping the

bedtime snack and drinking a glass of water before retiring to wash

out the pouch. Just a thought...

BTW, great job on the weight loss!

Jill in AZ

10/25/03

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//> Hello all, I have been banded since Feb 27,2004, and happier now

> than ever in my life! The Lord has blessed me to be able to have

> lost 92.5 pounds since February.

>

> I have had my second fill/adjustment in mid July. I have a total of

> 1.5 cc in the band. I have been experiencing some acid reflux at

> night but not all the time. I eat supper around 6 p.m. and

sometimes

> eat a bedtime snack and in bed by 10 p.m.

> //

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I would agree completely with that. Last nite we were out late and

ate supper very late. I stayed up over an hour later than usual (and

am suffering for it this morning) to let the too-late supper settle

and move through. Otherwise I would have been tossing and turning all

night from the reflux, which would have been even worse than losing an

hour of sleep. YMMV of course.

dan

Thursday, September 9, 2004, 7:57:51 AM, you wrote:

j> Does the nightly reflux coincide with the bedtime snack? I always

j> hear you should not eat too close to bedtime as the food can still be

j> in the pouch when you lay down. Before heading off for a slight

j> unfill (which you may need to do anyway), I would try stopping the

j> bedtime snack and drinking a glass of water before retiring to wash

j> out the pouch. Just a thought...

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 61

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Well, I will take your advise (both of you) and pay attention to how

late I have eaten as I sure do not want another night like that ever

again! It is so hard to get out of the old bad habits I was in

prebanding. Live and learn huh?

Thanks again.

>

> j> Does the nightly reflux coincide with the bedtime snack? I

always

> j> hear you should not eat too close to bedtime as the food can

still be

> j> in the pouch when you lay down. Before heading off for a

slight

> j> unfill (which you may need to do anyway), I would try stopping

the

> j> bedtime snack and drinking a glass of water before retiring to

wash

> j> out the pouch. Just a thought...

>

>

>

> Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@g... www.mylapband.tk

> Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

> 323/209/199 Age 61

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OK, I can tell I got another year older! I am not keeping up with computer

abbreviations. There are 2 that I have seen. This one Dan, YMMV...and

another one I saw yesterday. I can't remember exactly for sure but I think

it was NSV. Something like that. Would someone educate me?

Thanks!

Tammy

Re: Re: Could my fill be too tight?

> I would agree completely with that. Last nite we were out late and

> ate supper very late. I stayed up over an hour later than usual (and

> am suffering for it this morning) to let the too-late supper settle

> and move through. Otherwise I would have been tossing and turning all

> night from the reflux, which would have been even worse than losing an

> hour of sleep. YMMV of course.

>

> dan

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YMMV...your milage may vary

NSV...non-scale victory

> OK, I can tell I got another year older! I am not keeping up with

computer

> abbreviations. There are 2 that I have seen. This one Dan,

YMMV...and

> another one I saw yesterday. I can't remember exactly for sure but

I think

> it was NSV. Something like that. Would someone educate me?

> Thanks!

> Tammy

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NSV is a " non scale victory " , like being able to buy in the regular

store, crossing your legs, whatever. Sometimes those things happen

even when the scale doesn't move, and of course they happen as it does

move, too.

YMMV is an old " internet expression " which means Your Mileage May

Vary, just like they say on the stickers on new cars. It is used to

indicate just what it says, in generic terms.

Sorry to add to confusion.

dan

Thursday, September 9, 2004, 10:01:26 AM, you wrote:

T> OK, I can tell I got another year older! I am not keeping up with computer

T> abbreviations. There are 2 that I have seen. This one Dan, YMMV...and

T> another one I saw yesterday. I can't remember exactly for sure but I think

T> it was NSV. Something like that. Would someone educate me?

T> Thanks!

T> Tammy

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 61

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Most obese people have a poor lower-esophageal sphincter that

encourages reflux, even without a too-tight fill. for this reason,

it's very important for us to not eat or drink within about 2 hrs of

bedtime. This includes meds. ONE hour before bedtime, drink a glass

of water to rinse out the pouch.

If you STILL have reflux (wwhich is quite daqngerous because of the

chance of aspiration pneumonia - been there, done that, felt like

croaking for 6 weeks), then there ar4 behavioral things to add to try

to stop the reflux - and avoiding citrus (qacid) is about #2 on the

list!

Let us know if not eating close to bedtime does NOT help. more info

on reflux:http://www.gerd.com/faq/gerd-faq.htm

http://www.aboutgerd.org/

Sandy R

> Hello all, I have been banded since Feb 27,2004, and happier now

> than ever in my life! The Lord has blessed me to be able to have

> lost 92.5 pounds since February.

>

> I have had my second fill/adjustment in mid July. I have a total of

> 1.5 cc in the band. I have been experiencing some acid reflux at

> night but not all the time. I eat supper around 6 p.m. and

sometimes

> eat a bedtime snack and in bed by 10 p.m.

>

> The reflux was really bad last night,did not get much sleep for

> having to sit up so much. I took an over the counter Pepcid and a

> few hours later it was not better chewed some Maalox tablets, but

it

> lasted all night.

>

> I wonder about the band being too tight, but then I don't have

> trouble with eating my 1/4 to 1/2 cup of food per meal.

>

> Any ideas or suggestions?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> 365/273/180/145

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Thanks Sandy, I guess this is still a learning process huh? With

every fill or adjustment I learn something new. I will try your

advice, I am willing to try anything to help this.

What is your opinion on using Gaviscon tablets for this? I used it

successfully for acid reflux prebanding and was wondering if it

would hurt the band to use them now?

Thanks.

> > Hello all, I have been banded since Feb 27,2004, and happier now

> > than ever in my life! The Lord has blessed me to be able to

have

> > lost 92.5 pounds since February.

> >

> > I have had my second fill/adjustment in mid July. I have a total

of

> > 1.5 cc in the band. I have been experiencing some acid reflux

at

> > night but not all the time. I eat supper around 6 p.m. and

> sometimes

> > eat a bedtime snack and in bed by 10 p.m.

> >

> > The reflux was really bad last night,did not get much sleep for

> > having to sit up so much. I took an over the counter Pepcid and

a

> > few hours later it was not better chewed some Maalox tablets,

but

> it

> > lasted all night.

> >

> > I wonder about the band being too tight, but then I don't have

> > trouble with eating my 1/4 to 1/2 cup of food per meal.

> >

> > Any ideas or suggestions?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> > 365/273/180/145

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You should really be having NO reflux. Just trying to cover it up

with meds is not the solution. You need to prevent it. Even ONE

episode of reflux at night has caused the very serious aspiration

pneumonia, which will set you back months.

But, to answer your question, an occasional med like Pepcid Complete

is better than gaviscon. It is what most docs would suggest if

needed, and what i use. (people at goal with a good fill sometimes

have a very occasional reflux that can be treated with the behavioral

things plus pepcid - this is different than the reflux-prevention

essential during the weight-loss phase).

But, again, if you have ongoing reflux, even with the preventative

things we've suggested, you need some fill out. You must work hard to

protect your band, if you want it to last the rest of your life.

Please NEVER allow dangerous things to continue, just for the sake of

a possibly-gfaster weight loss. this usually backfire4s on you.

Sandy R

> > > Hello all, I have been banded since Feb 27,2004, and happier

now

> > > than ever in my life! The Lord has blessed me to be able to

> have

> > > lost 92.5 pounds since February.

> > >

> > > I have had my second fill/adjustment in mid July. I have a

total

> of

> > > 1.5 cc in the band. I have been experiencing some acid reflux

> at

> > > night but not all the time. I eat supper around 6 p.m. and

> > sometimes

> > > eat a bedtime snack and in bed by 10 p.m.

> > >

> > > The reflux was really bad last night,did not get much sleep for

> > > having to sit up so much. I took an over the counter Pepcid and

> a

> > > few hours later it was not better chewed some Maalox tablets,

> but

> > it

> > > lasted all night.

> > >

> > > I wonder about the band being too tight, but then I don't have

> > > trouble with eating my 1/4 to 1/2 cup of food per meal.

> > >

> > > Any ideas or suggestions?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> > > 365/273/180/145

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