Re: 3 meals a day

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3 meals a day

Hi everyone,

I had written privately about this to someone on this list, who advised

me to share this with everyone. There is a reason I have been so

adamant about eating three meals a day, and why I am somewhat obsessive

about my ability or inability to lose weight. As I wrote to this

person:

I have an eating disorder, and the only way I can keep it under

control is if I eat three meals a day, nothing in between. I'm

trying to use this meal plan to stabilize my health, and to lose

weight without triggering my disorder. Do you have any

advice or guidance knowing that?

So, that said...

I've cut way down on my grains/breads, upped my protein intake, have

three fruits a day (but I've tweaked the portions -- instead of having 6

oz of a fruit, I have a piece). I am relying mostly on beneficials and

super beneficials (according to the diabetes book, which I use because I

have familial history of diabetes on both sides, and am eager to prevent

its development in me).

Any thoughts?

Thanks, Carolyn

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CK wrote:

<<< There is a reason I have been so adamant about eating three meals a

day, and why I am somewhat obsessive about my ability or inability to

lose weight. As I wrote to this person:

I have an eating disorder, and the only way I can keep it under

control is if I eat three meals a day, nothing in between. I'm trying

to use this meal plan to stabilize my health, and to lose weight without

triggering my disorder. Do you have any advice or guidance knowing that? >>>

When you say you are up against an eating disorder - I am not sure why

you associate that with a need for 3 meals a day. The obesity science

suggests not doing that but instead eating 5 or 6 times a day. The blood

type diabetes book which talks about pre-diabetes due to overweight - is

full of good ideas on controlling weight (the major goal of any

pre-diabetic), and what to eat if you are which blood type, also with

suitable exercises, ideas on controlling cravings etc.

My copy arrived today and I devoured it for supper:-)) Right before

I made some cod fish, spinach and pineapple juice supper, followed by

Fenugreek tea.

I am not having late night sugar cravings which is such a pleasant change.

Might the ideas in there help you too?

<< So, that said...

I've cut way down on my grains/breads>>

Can you cut them out altogether?

What I did was make a list on a single page, of all the superbeneficials

and supplements. I plan to see if I can eat only those for a while

hoping it will kick-start some weight loss for me, and some more edema

loss. I found that cutting out wheat and corn lost me 10 pounds in a

week when I started BTD - but only if I cut it ALL out. One bite messed

it up.

<<upped my protein intake, have three fruits a day >>>

Better to have super-beneficial fruit like plums more often and to cut

out the grains altogether. I find that if I get the wrong ratio of

protein to carbs for my body type it is not helpful. I need a certain

proportion of carbs - but need to get them from the right place.

I also learned that the ideal time to eat carbs is 15 minutes before

some exercise. The best way to lose weight is to swap fat for muscle -

and so I have some easy exercises I can do anywhere any time with no

equipment, and I do them 15 mins after eating carbs. (If you wait longer

the carbs go to fat.)

I have huge resistance to weight loss due to a medical condition with

very high levels of insulin, cortisol, aldosterone, sodium and glucose,

and very low levels of potassium and protein - but on this BTD plan I am

losing a pound a week, which for me is great, I'll get there with that

trend in time. I now hope the diabetes BTD will improve that even more.

<<<(but I've tweaked the portions -- instead of having 6 oz of a fruit,

I have a piece). >>>

I would have a whole super-beneficial fruit - like a large plum or a

thick slice of pineapple, but only after a balanced meal of protein and

greens, instead of dessert. And with some exercise to raise your

metabolic level 15 minutes later. If you'd like the simple 8 exercises I

am doing, I can send them to you so you can see if you like them. It's

one page from a magazine, 8 exercises that take about 3 minutes each.

They say to do all 8 in 25 mins and repeat once - and do it twice a week.

But I take an hour to do all 8 and stop there. I'm doing it twice a week

though and when I can do better I'll do so. I felt benefit after just

two sessions.

<<<I am relying mostly on beneficials and super beneficials (according

to the diabetes book, which I use because I have familial history of

diabetes on both sides, and am eager to prevent its development in me).>>>

I hope it works well for you. I would also recommend the book " The

Ultimate Weight Solution " by Dr Phil McGraw - as it has the keys to

overcoming the eating disorder aspects of excess weight.

It divides your weight management strategy into 7 key areas with ways to

master them so you are not dependent on will power for success, but on

planning ahead so you do succeed.

Just plug in the BTD-diabetes eating plan with the 7 strategies - I

added one a week so as to master it well - and you will hopefully have a

good new tool (or 7 of them) on your side to work with.

> Any thoughts?

I hope that helps. I sure know how frustrating it is to need to lose a

lot of weight to be close to healthy and to have many years of struggle

to do so, without success. For me I have made progress from three

approaches so far:

* Dr Phil's Ultimate Weight solution - which has strategies I'll use for

life. I lost 30 lbs in 3 months when I first implemented them, and my

health improved in terms of feeling healthier.

* Dr Perricone's " The Perricone Prescription " - as it teaches you how to

eat in order to keep all your body's cells and cell membranes working

without being inflamed. That got me another level healthier and so I

added in those principles. It also lowered my blood sugar, total

cholesterol, triglycerides, LDL and A1c, and raised my HDL. That is what

you'd expect from an anti-inflammatory diet.

* The Blood type diet - which has added in new adjustments - radcial

ones - to what I eat - and which fits within the other two systems so

that all three are maximized.

Dr Phil's 7 keys are really the framework for proper management of

eating, you need all 7 - Dr Perricone makes the individual cells healthy

- and BTD gives better efficiency of metabolism. All three are necessary

IMO for those of us with serious weight management challenges.

Namaste,

Irene

--

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P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

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Irene I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying the Diabetes book. So

far as the three meals a day I also do better with 5-6 smaller meals

or snacks, but we are all individuals. Maybe it's better for CK not

to have food on the mind all day, every meal an opportunity for a

binge to start. So long as the meals are a little higher in protein

and fat, 3 square meals a day can work too. The O diet is probably

the best for that. On the weekend I actually tend to eat larger

meals with fewer snacks, since I'm on the run most of the time.

During the week, tied to my desk, I do well with the smaller meals

and snacks.

I need to get back to a little weight training myself. The exercise

overall has slacked off lately. I do like that all four of the

health library series recommend a mix of aerobic and weight training

as opposed to just aerobics. They're both important.

Cheryl

O pos secretor

Texas

> <<< There is a reason I have been so adamant about eating three

meals a

> day, and why I am somewhat obsessive about my ability or inability

to

> lose weight. As I wrote to this person:

> I have an eating disorder, and the only way I can keep it

under

> control is if I eat three meals a day, nothing in between. I'm

trying

> to use this meal plan to stabilize my health, and to lose weight

without

> triggering my disorder. Do you have any advice or guidance knowing

that? >>>

>

> When you say you are up against an eating disorder - I am not sure

why

> you associate that with a need for 3 meals a day. The obesity

science

> suggests not doing that but instead eating 5 or 6 times a day. The

blood

> type diabetes book which talks about pre-diabetes due to

overweight - is

> full of good ideas on controlling weight (the major goal of any

> pre-diabetic), and what to eat if you are which blood type, also

with

> suitable exercises, ideas on controlling cravings etc.

> My copy arrived today and I devoured it for supper:-)) Right

before

> I made some cod fish, spinach and pineapple juice supper, followed

by

> Fenugreek tea.

>

> I am not having late night sugar cravings which is such a pleasant

change.

> Might the ideas in there help you too?

>

> << So, that said...

> I've cut way down on my grains/breads>>

>

> Can you cut them out altogether?

> What I did was make a list on a single page, of all the

superbeneficials

> and supplements. I plan to see if I can eat only those for a while

> hoping it will kick-start some weight loss for me, and some more

edema

> loss. I found that cutting out wheat and corn lost me 10 pounds in

a

> week when I started BTD - but only if I cut it ALL out. One bite

messed

> it up.

>

> <<upped my protein intake, have three fruits a day >>>

>

> Better to have super-beneficial fruit like plums more often and to

cut

> out the grains altogether. I find that if I get the wrong ratio of

> protein to carbs for my body type it is not helpful. I need a

certain

> proportion of carbs - but need to get them from the right place.

> I also learned that the ideal time to eat carbs is 15 minutes

before

> some exercise. The best way to lose weight is to swap fat for

muscle -

> and so I have some easy exercises I can do anywhere any time with

no

> equipment, and I do them 15 mins after eating carbs. (If you wait

longer

> the carbs go to fat.)

> I have huge resistance to weight loss due to a medical condition

with

> very high levels of insulin, cortisol, aldosterone, sodium and

glucose,

> and very low levels of potassium and protein - but on this BTD plan

I am

> losing a pound a week, which for me is great, I'll get there with

that

> trend in time. I now hope the diabetes BTD will improve that even

more.

>

> <<<(but I've tweaked the portions -- instead of having 6 oz of a

fruit,

> I have a piece). >>>

>

> I would have a whole super-beneficial fruit - like a large plum or

a

> thick slice of pineapple, but only after a balanced meal of protein

and

> greens, instead of dessert. And with some exercise to raise your

> metabolic level 15 minutes later. If you'd like the simple 8

exercises I

> am doing, I can send them to you so you can see if you like them.

It's

> one page from a magazine, 8 exercises that take about 3 minutes

each.

> They say to do all 8 in 25 mins and repeat once - and do it twice a

week.

> But I take an hour to do all 8 and stop there. I'm doing it twice a

week

> though and when I can do better I'll do so. I felt benefit after

just

> two sessions.

>

> <<<I am relying mostly on beneficials and super beneficials

(according

> to the diabetes book, which I use because I have familial history

of

> diabetes on both sides, and am eager to prevent its development in

me).>>>

>

> I hope it works well for you. I would also recommend the book " The

> Ultimate Weight Solution " by Dr Phil McGraw - as it has the keys to

> overcoming the eating disorder aspects of excess weight.

> It divides your weight management strategy into 7 key areas with

ways to

> master them so you are not dependent on will power for success, but

on

> planning ahead so you do succeed.

> Just plug in the BTD-diabetes eating plan with the 7 strategies - I

> added one a week so as to master it well - and you will hopefully

have a

> good new tool (or 7 of them) on your side to work with.

>

> > Any thoughts?

>

> I hope that helps. I sure know how frustrating it is to need to

lose a

> lot of weight to be close to healthy and to have many years of

struggle

> to do so, without success. For me I have made progress from three

> approaches so far:

> * Dr Phil's Ultimate Weight solution - which has strategies I'll

use for

> life. I lost 30 lbs in 3 months when I first implemented them, and

my

> health improved in terms of feeling healthier.

> * Dr Perricone's " The Perricone Prescription " - as it teaches you

how to

> eat in order to keep all your body's cells and cell membranes

working

> without being inflamed. That got me another level healthier and so

I

> added in those principles. It also lowered my blood sugar, total

> cholesterol, triglycerides, LDL and A1c, and raised my HDL. That is

what

> you'd expect from an anti-inflammatory diet.

> * The Blood type diet - which has added in new adjustments -

radcial

> ones - to what I eat - and which fits within the other two systems

so

> that all three are maximized.

>

> Dr Phil's 7 keys are really the framework for proper management of

> eating, you need all 7 - Dr Perricone makes the individual cells

healthy

> - and BTD gives better efficiency of metabolism. All three are

necessary

> IMO for those of us with serious weight management challenges.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

> P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

> http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

> Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

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Tamara Tornado wrote:

> I've been eating 2 meals a day for a long time now.... I haven't been

> hungry... But I'm feeling hungrier lately. Might try 3 meals again. But

> I need to figure out where to fit in exercise. It's not good to

> exercise on a full tummy.

It's a bit of an old wives tale. If you feel okay and are not burping

food from an excessive meal, it's fine.

My strategy is three meals and two snacks a day. I exercise shortly

after the snack versions.

My " snacks " are really small versions of meals in that they all include

protein, antioxidant, fat and fiber. I find that something sweet

included puts off sugar cravings provided there is protein involved.

For example sardine (in its own oil) with mango salsa, plus a plum

or small spinach-radish-egg-cherry salad and teasp olive oil.

or walnuts and berry mix (Costco has a nice one in the freezer)

If I eat three meals, my blood sugar drops too far before the next meal

and I am hungry and prone to overeating.

Also if you eat 5 times you keep your metabolism in high gear where if

you only eat three times you switch your metabolism off between meals -

not great for weight loss.

To stop the need to focus on food " all day " I plan ,y meals and snacks

the day before - and just follow the recipe - I do not think about " what

to eat " at all.

Lots of great strategies (to avoid the need for will power - which we

all know does not work) are in Dr Phil McGraw's " The Ultimate Weight

Solution " book. I strongly recommend it for anyone who wants control

over weight for whatever reason, using a strategy that is geared to them

individually. You get to use the questionnaires to see where your

problem areas are and to hone in on the solutions. It works. And you can

plug in BTD or whatever else you use in terms of food. But Dr Phil also

has lists of what foods are fast metabolism ones and what are slow. So

you get the best of both worlds, and you can choose appropriate BTD

foods for weight loss (or weight gain if that's your issue.)

You need to study the book a chapter at a time - it's work - but worth

it - do maybe a chapter per week, to adjust and learn how to adapt to

your lifestyle preferences and needs, and to give yourself a chance to

practise the strategies in there. Anything worth having comes with

practice :-)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

[Guest guest]

Times to exercise

1 - to burn fat, do it first thing in the morning. You will burn 3 times

as much fat

2 - 5pm to 8pm

[Guest guest]

I basically agree with your times to exercise. The only thing I would add

is that I have read that if you exercise in the morning that it should

probably not be real intense exercise. It is a better time for easy to

moderate workouts.

Don

RE: Re: 3 meals a day

Times to exercise

1 - to burn fat, do it first thing in the morning. You will burn 3 times

as much fat

2 - 5pm to 8pm

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While I had to eat before working out first thing in the morning my O

friend excelled at it on an empty stomach while we worked out

heavy!!!!!!

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RE: Re: 3 meals a day

Times to exercise

1 - to burn fat, do it first thing in the morning. You will burn 3

times

as much fat

2 - 5pm to 8pm

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I only eat 2 main meals a day. I'm retired so I don't get up early anymore

unless I have to. Between lunch and dinner, I have 2 snacks of protein and

after dinner I have 1 snack full of protein.

Judy

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, well, you have done excellently with wt loss, so i hesitate to

say a thing! :-)

But I do believe we should have a regular intake, even if it is only a

few bites for a meal. It's good to eat the lightest meal for the

evening meal anyway.

I found, for me, that it was impossible to meet the nutritional needs

(protein, fiber, calcium, good carbs) without 3 meals a day plus 1-2

small snacks.Protein is much better absorbed if it is spreqd out thru

the day. a lot at once (more than maybe 20 mg) is very hard on the

kidneys too, especially of diabetics.

I have to wonder if you're too tight, if you really can;t eat 3 small

meals a day. Can you get in the solid protein and the 1200-1500 cal a

day without soft and liquid foods? Getting the 25-30 gm a day of fiber

needed? About 1-1.5 cups per meal?

Your increase in exercise requires MORE calories, and should make you

MORE hungry, i would think. not sure what's going on!

Sandy r

>

> What do you do if you just can't get the 3rd meal in. Should I

> increase my protein on my first two meals so I get enough in and eat a

> lite dinner? I'm not getting hungry, I get in a good bit of water a

> day but I stop at least 45 mins before I eat. So how important is that

> 3rd meal if you meet your nutritional needs?

>

>

> I've increased my exercise lately could this be part of it?

>

[Guest guest]

2 larger meals and one smaller one is just fine, as long as we are

meeting the nutrition needs.

Be sure not to get too much protein - we only need about 50 gm a day.

Protein should only be about 10-15% of the daily intake. the fiber (25

gm a day), calcium (1200-1500 mg/day) and the good carbs (about 50% of

the diet) are every bit as impt as protein, for both health and good wt

loss.

Lots more about this in the Files - in the Band Guide. That's what I

believe and teach, anyway.

Sandy

-- In , Judyhcolumbus@... wrote:

>

> I only eat 2 main meals a day. I'm retired so I don't get up early

anymore

> unless I have to. Between lunch and dinner, I have 2 snacks of

protein and

> after dinner I have 1 snack full of protein.

>

> Judy

>

>

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Hello ,

Saturday, December 15, 2007, 8:29:28 PM, you wrote:

> What do you do if you just can't get the 3rd meal in. Should I

> increase my protein on my first two meals so I get enough in and eat a

> lite dinner? I'm not getting hungry, I get in a good bit of water a

> day but I stop at least 45 mins before I eat. So how important is that

> 3rd meal if you meet your nutritional needs?

As far as I'm concerned, if you can't eat three meals a day, that's

ok, as long as you're getting in at least 1200 to 1500 calories of

good health food.

BUT as to water, there is NO reason to stop drinking until just before

your first bite. Water loading helps to reduce hunger, and also

eliminates (or nearly does) thirst for the hour or so after eating

before you drink again.

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Best regards,

Dan mailto:honu@...

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even if i get up late on weekends, i still have 3 " meals " and 2

snacks. the meals can be smaller, but always are protein plus something else.

At 10:50 PM 12/15/2007, you wrote:

>I only eat 2 main meals a day. I'm retired so I don't get up early anymore

>unless I have to. Between lunch and dinner, I have 2 snacks of protein and

>after dinner I have 1 snack full of protein.

>

>Judy

>

>

>

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>

>

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Thanks. I've learned to love this band.

I was in TJ 2 weeks ago and had a slight unfill, my asthma was acting up a

little and

sometimes it helps.

The increased exercise..... I'm snowboarding. I took my first lesson last

week. OUCH.

Could never have snowboarded 2 years ago.

I do make sure I get in 1500 calories in and I love the soup. I still love

clear broth and

miso soup no matter how many times it's been the only thing I could have!

Sometimes I add protein

powder to my broth and drink it and sometimes add egg whites like egg drop

soup. I always use low sodium broths.

nancy

> >

> > What do you do if you just can't get the 3rd meal in. Should I

> > increase my protein on my first two meals so I get enough in and eat a

> > lite dinner? I'm not getting hungry, I get in a good bit of water a

> > day but I stop at least 45 mins before I eat. So how important is that

> > 3rd meal if you meet your nutritional needs?

> >

> >

> > I've increased my exercise lately could this be part of it?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

no you need to get your 3rd meal in try a protien drink 2 hours after your

lunch that should give and an extra hour

penny day

-- 3 meals a day

What do you do if you just can't get the 3rd meal in. Should I

increase my protein on my first two meals so I get enough in and eat a

lite dinner? I'm not getting hungry, I get in a good bit of water a

day but I stop at least 45 mins before I eat. So how important is that

3rd meal if you meet your nutritional needs?

I've increased my exercise lately could this be part of it?

[Guest guest]

Sounds great then! " Learned to love " is putting it perfectly, imo!

The band can sure be a pain in the ass sometimes, but we have to

realize saving our lives is worth it. worht ANYthing, really.

Reflux commonly causes new asthma or flare-ups, so you were likely a

bit tight.

Glad you got the unfill. you've done too well to get messed up at all!

Sandy

> > >

> > > What do you do if you just can't get the 3rd meal in. Should I

> > > increase my protein on my first two meals so I get enough in

and eat a

> > > lite dinner? I'm not getting hungry, I get in a good bit of

water a

> > > day but I stop at least 45 mins before I eat. So how important

is that

> > > 3rd meal if you meet your nutritional needs?

> > >

> > >

> > > I've increased my exercise lately could this be part of it?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I guess everyone has to find the best recipe for including meals. Since

I work a later shift I try to eat 6 small meals a day. I also carry

stuff that doesn't need to be refrigerated in case I get hungry

in-between-meals. Don't know if this happens to anyone else, but if I

get busy or don't eat on time hunger shows itself as dry heaves; (most

embarrassing!) Since I'm no longer a " youngster, " (60 yrs. young now) I

take other supplements besides multivitamins. The doctor can give you a

script for a supplement check. Beyond that, I do my own research.

Pam

>

> > What do you do if you just can't get the 3rd meal in. Should I

> > increase my protein on my first two meals so I get enough in and eat

a

> > lite dinner? I'm not getting hungry, I get in a good bit of water a

> > day but I stop at least 45 mins before I eat. So how important is

that

> > 3rd meal if you meet your nutritional needs?

>

> As far as I'm concerned, if you can't eat three meals a day, that's

> ok, as long as you're getting in at least 1200 to 1500 calories of

> good health food.

>

> BUT as to water, there is NO reason to stop drinking until just before

> your first bite. Water loading helps to reduce hunger, and also

> eliminates (or nearly does) thirst for the hour or so after eating

> before you drink again.

>

> --

> Best regards,

> Dan mailto:honu@...

>