Guest guest Posted March 14, 1999 Report Share Posted March 14, 1999 Hi Shah: I'm the one who had frozen shoulder. First the right one then the following year the left one. It isn't really a surgery....but it is done in the operating room under a general anesthesia. It's called a manipulation. While you are " under " the orthopedic surgeon just jerks your shoulder around real hard breaking loose all the adhesions. When you wake up you are in lots of pain and you need to get into physical therapy right away to keep the movement happening. For me it was a success. (both shoulders) But I really think if I hadn't gotten on AP that this would have been a yearly occurance....that the shoulders would just have continued to freeze up again and again. Intensive physical therapy helped some (before the manipulation), but with the adhesions there the therapy just couldn't loosen it up all the way. Judy (deejay) son, WA Scleroderma 10+ yrs. AP 2 yrs. ---------- > From: Shah <shar@...> > rheumaticonelist > Subject: rheumatic frozen shoulder > Date: Saturday, March 13, 1999 10:23 PM > > From: " Shah " <shar@...> > > Hi, > > Someone in the recent past wrote about surgery for frozen shoulder > and I think the message got deleted by mistake in my mail. Could you > please let me know what was the surgery and has it helped? Is there > anything one can do to unkink a stiff shoulder apart from exercises? > > Best wishes to all, > Zanash > RA 3/98 AP 8/98 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ta Da! Come see our new web site! > > Onelist: A free email community service > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 1999 Report Share Posted March 15, 1999 I had a frozen shoulder, and went to Physical Therapy where they warmed the joint with deep heat (ultrasound), and then the therapist moved it around and stretched it (ouch). It took about 4 weeks going 3 times a week, but now I'm practically normal, no surgery, and no shots! In a message dated 3/14/99 12:22:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, shar@... writes: << Hi, Someone in the recent past wrote about surgery for frozen shoulder and I think the message got deleted by mistake in my mail. Could you please let me know what was the surgery and has it helped? Is there anything one can do to unkink a stiff shoulder apart from exercises? Best wishes to all, Zanash >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 1999 Report Share Posted March 15, 1999 My sister-in-law does not have arthritis, but she does have frozen shoulders. One is almost back to normal range. She has tried many approaches. Some of the more helpful things have been myo-fascial massage, ROM exercises, accupuncture and shiatsu massage. The latter two are very painful and are to be done concurrently, but they allow her to sleep for about 6 hours on the nights she has the treatments. Otherwise, she sleeps for about 2 hours at a time due to the pain. rheumatic frozen shoulder >From: " Shah " <shar@...> > >Hi, > >Someone in the recent past wrote about surgery for frozen shoulder >and I think the message got deleted by mistake in my mail. Could you >please let me know what was the surgery and has it helped? Is there >anything one can do to unkink a stiff shoulder apart from exercises? > >Best wishes to all, >Zanash >RA 3/98 AP 8/98 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ta Da! Come see our new web site! > >Onelist: A free email community service > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 1999 Report Share Posted March 16, 1999 I forgot til you mentionned it but I had ultra sound for a stiff neck about 10 years ago. My doctor signed me up for about 6 treatments at the Outpatient and it worked. I've never had another stiff neck til RA. So I would try it before surgery. Less invasive and it might work. :>) Bev rheumatic Re: frozen shoulder >From: DMBGone@... > >I had a frozen shoulder, and went to Physical Therapy where they warmed the >joint with deep heat (ultrasound), and then the therapist moved it around and >stretched it (ouch). It took about 4 weeks going 3 times a week, but now I'm >practically normal, no surgery, and no shots! > >In a message dated 3/14/99 12:22:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, >shar@... writes: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 You're very welcome, Beth! Is your shoulder feeling any better? I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org [ ] frozen shoulder > > > > thank you so much for all the info it has been a big help. > Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 You're very welcome, Beth! Is your shoulder feeling any better? I'll tell you where to go! Mayo Clinic in Rochester http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester s Hopkins Medicine http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org [ ] frozen shoulder > > > > thank you so much for all the info it has been a big help. > Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 , I am still having a lot of problems with it, but I have just learned to work around it. My family is a great help at home. Most of my co-workers are great. Thanks, Beth --- In , " " <Matsumura_Clan@m...> wrote: > You're very welcome, Beth! Is your shoulder feeling any better? > > > > > I'll tell you where to go! > > Mayo Clinic in Rochester > http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester > > s Hopkins Medicine > http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org > > > [ ] frozen shoulder > > > > > > > > > > thank you so much for all the info it has been a big help. > > Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 , I am still having a lot of problems with it, but I have just learned to work around it. My family is a great help at home. Most of my co-workers are great. Thanks, Beth > You're very welcome, Beth! Is your shoulder feeling any better? > > > > > I'll tell you where to go! > > Mayo Clinic in Rochester > http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester > > s Hopkins Medicine > http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org > > > [ ] frozen shoulder > > > > > > > > > > thank you so much for all the info it has been a big help. > > Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Does anyone ever suffer with frozen shoulder (adhesive captulitis)? This is my second round of it and I would like to talk to someone that has had success with treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 try chiropractor and massage janaharrison515 <janaharrison515@...> wrote: Does anyone ever suffer with frozen shoulder (adhesive captulitis)? This is my second round of it and I would like to talk to someone that has had success with treatment. --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Sheila, I had a frozen shoulder in 2007. I went to an orthopedic surgeon who gave me a steriod shot, which did nothing. Then I was put on a course of methylprednisolone, which also did nothing. He said that they would probably break my arm if they tried to manipulate it, so put me on 18 sessions of physical therapy. It is not exactly a quick fix but it worked! It seems that we thyroid people are prone to all kinds of joint problems which cause excrutiating pain. I hope your daughter finds relief one way or the other. I am in the U.S. (formerly from U.K.) but I believe most of the treatments are similar. PJ > > You may remember I posted about my daughters frozen shoulder a couple of > weeks or so ago. She has just telephoned me saying she has been to physio at > the hospital and because of the severe pain she is in, they have advised her > to have the steroid injection, but she doesn't want it - but she was > actually crying tonight telling me she is in severe pain for 80% of the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Sheila, My sister has been going thru physical therapy for her frozen shoulder and I believe she has had steroid injections. I will forward your post to her and will let you know what her experience is with it. Venizia -- In thyroid treatment , " Sheila " <sheila@...> wrote: > > You may remember I posted about my daughters frozen shoulder a couple of > weeks or so ago. She has just telephoned me saying she has been to physio at > the hospital and because of the severe pain she is in, they have advised her > to have the steroid injection, but she doesn't want it - but she was > actually crying tonight telling me she is in severe pain for 80% of the day > and night and can't take much more. Her GP has given her even stronger pain > killers than she was on before. She has had several sessions of acupuncture > which did nothing for her and exercise, but the physio's have given her even > more exercise to do which she will start tomorrow. Has anybody any > experience of the steroid injection. I know my daughter and she is a tuffy, > putting up with a lot of pain if she has to, but I have never known her to > be so down. > > > > Luv - Sheila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Hi Sheila, I am sorry to read about your daughter. I don't have any experience of steroid injections myself, but my father suffered from an excruciatingly painful shoulder injury a few years ago which he got from years of playing golf. He had physio, painkillers etc and nothing worked. In the end he saw a rheumatologist who gave him a steroid injection in his shoulder and that honestly did the trick. My father was so grateful as he thought he would never be able to play golf again. If I remember rightly, his shoulder was a bit stiff for a day or two after the injection, but he has never looked back and still plays golf three times a week. He is now 81! My mother also saw an orthopaedic consultant last year for a painful foot as nothing seemed to get rid of the bad heel pain she was experiencing. She also had a steroid injection that was successful. I hope that this helps to reassure you a little that this may be the only option left for muscular pain relief when drugs and physio fail. Gillian > > You may remember I posted about my daughters frozen shoulder a couple of > weeks or so ago. She has just telephoned me saying she has been to physio at > the hospital and because of the severe pain she is in, they have advised her > to have the steroid injection, but she doesn't want it - but she was > actually crying tonight telling me she is in severe pain for 80% of the day > and night and can't take much more. Her GP has given her even stronger pain > killers than she was on before. She has had several sessions of acupuncture > which did nothing for her and exercise, but the physio's have given her even > more exercise to do which she will start tomorrow. Has anybody any > experience of the steroid injection. I know my daughter and she is a tuffy, > putting up with a lot of pain if she has to, but I have never known her to > be so down. > > > > Luv - Sheila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Hi Sheila, The following is the response from my sister. She also has frozen shoulder. I hope your daughter can find some relief. My sister has not yet. Venizia Hi, I know what she is going through as far as the pain. I'm in constant pain throughout the day and I will actually wake up crying in the middle of the night from the pain. I am taking Percoset for the pain, which that is really not doing anything. As far as the steroid injection, it did nothing. Absolutely nothing. The shot itself is very painful, on top of the pain from the frozen shoulder. I do not recommend it. The orthopedic surgeon also said with a frozen shoulder that the cortozone shot will not do anything for it. But he is not the one that gave it to me. It was an orthopedic doctor that I was seeing before him. Go figure. Nanette > > You may remember I posted about my daughters frozen shoulder a couple of > weeks or so ago. She has just telephoned me saying she has been to physio at > the hospital and because of the severe pain she is in, they have advised her > to have the steroid injection, but she doesn't want it - but she was > actually crying tonight telling me she is in severe pain for 80% of the day > and night and can't take much more. Her GP has given her even stronger pain > killers than she was on before. She has had several sessions of acupuncture > which did nothing for her and exercise, but the physio's have given her even > more exercise to do which she will start tomorrow. Has anybody any > experience of the steroid injection. I know my daughter and she is a tuffy, > putting up with a lot of pain if she has to, but I have never known her to > be so down. > > > > Luv - Sheila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Hi Sheila, I've had frozen shoulder in both shoulders. I didn't have a steroid shot because I heard that some people have difficulties with it & that it might not help everyone, so I didn't want to take the risk. They checked the damage by doing an ultrasound of my shoulder. Has your daughter had an ultrasound to confirm exactly what is going on in there???? If not, it is a good idea for her to see what is happening inside. My shoulders have never been the same & even though my physio tried to relieve the pain, nothing helped. I used to wake in the night screaming and I am not a 'softie' by any stretch of the imagination. The pain is THAT intense and because it is an 'internal' pain, no amount of rubbing can make it feel better. You just have to tolerate it until the pain subsides. My physio told me that often manipulation and massage doesn't help because the pain originates so 'deep' in the shoulder. I was told it will be self limiting and that it would go away after months. It took about a year for the left shoulder to heal and then as soon as it did, my right shoulder froze (but the pain wasn't as bad). Unfortunately I cannot swim (freestyle and backstroke) for more than about 10 minutes because the arm movement causes my shoulders to hurt again. My shoulders are still not completely ok, and I'm not sure if they will ever be the same as they used to be prior to getting the frozen shoulders. I feel a lot of empathy for your daughter at the moment Sheila. P > > You may remember I posted about my daughters frozen shoulder a couple of weeks or so ago. ........they have advised her to have the steroid injection, but she doesn't want it - but she was actually crying tonight telling me she is in severe pain for 80% of the day and night and can't take much more.Her GP has given her even stronger pain killers than she was on before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 -Just a little bit 'off the wall' When I had a frozen shoulder a few years ago, I went to an osteopath who asked me if I had ever 'fallen over' On reflection I remembered that I had about 14months before in a car park and had put my hand out to stop myself. This jolt action pushed the ball joint into my shoulder socket and caused the 'frozen shoulder' > He told me this happens to alot of people and over time the shoulder freezes. Working with this knowledge he inched the joint out of socket and with some stretching exercises I have never had a problem since. Just for your consideration. jennyfreeman > You may remember I posted about my daughters frozen shoulder a couple of > weeks or so ago. She has just telephoned me saying she has been to physio at > the hospital and because of the severe pain she is in, they have advised her > to have the steroid injection, but she doesn't want it - but she was > actually crying tonight telling me she is in severe pain for 80% of the day > > > > Luv - Sheila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Hi Sheila, No personal experience, but I understand it can give good relief for a long period. Subject: FROZEN SHOULDER You may remember I posted about my daughters frozen shoulder a couple of weeks or so ago. She has just telephoned me saying she has been to physio at the hospital and because of the severe pain she is in, they have advised her to have the steroid injection, but she doesn't want it - but she was actually crying tonight telling me she is in severe pain for 80% of the day and night and can't take much more. Her GP has given her even stronger pain killers than she was on before. She has had several sessions of acupuncture which did nothing for her and exercise, but the physio's have given her even more exercise to do which she will start tomorrow. Has anybody any experience of the steroid injection. I know my daughter and she is a tuffy, putting up with a lot of pain if she has to, but I have never known her to be so down. Luv - Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 My approach for patients is more of a holistic approach (doing detox, antibiotics if needed, lab tests to confirm diagnosis, etc) and I work with a chiropractor (neuro-degenerative disease subspecialist) and an oriental doctor (doing acupuncture, etc) in order to cover all angles.From: Sue Gibbens <suegibbens21@...>Subject: Frozen shoulder Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 2:02 AM Hi Ladies, I am pretty sure I have heard of BI women having this problem before (frozen shoulder) Although my osteopath has said its not quite there yet ,and he is working towards not letting it get that bad. Its so painful and I don't have a lot of movement in my right arm Can anyone tell me how they helped this problem. Thanks Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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