Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 I don't belive there is such a thing as a " prfect " fill - only a good one, that you must combine with good food choices, good eating habit6s, and good lifestlye changes, including good exercise. Any one of these that is missing will sabotage your weight loss. And even a " good " level will change often, so you mjust compensate by having better eating habits during these times. with a good fill, about 3/4 - 1 cup of mostly-solid foods is about right. thsi should keep you full for 3-4 hrs. Cn you eat chicken and fish " These are good sources of solid protein. It's not just meats. If you can't eat fowl and fish as major protein sources, , you'll have some extra challenges, from my experience. You can do just fine, but you'll have to depend more on better habits, overcoming emotional eating, good exercise, and the othet things that are YOUR responsibility. The band's fill will be less important, becuase there are no souces of vegetarian protein that have the same meat fibers that the band is meant to restrict. All the vegetariamn sources of protein re basically soft foods, and the band does not restrict these well. The MorningStar " meat " products are pretty solid, but still not quite the same. All you can do is the best you can do! SAndy R > > if i'm filled to that perfect level, what is the amount of food i should be eating at each > meal? AND....... how do I get solid proteins as a vegetarian? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Can you eat soy to replace the meat? Garden burgers or Boca Burgers are great in my opinion! Sandy <MoonshadowRN@...> wrote: I don't belive there is such a thing as a " prfect " fill - only a good one, that you must combine with good food choices, good eating habit6s, and good lifestlye changes, including good exercise. Any one of these that is missing will sabotage your weight loss. And even a " good " level will change often, so you mjust compensate by having better eating habits during these times. with a good fill, about 3/4 - 1 cup of mostly-solid foods is about right. thsi should keep you full for 3-4 hrs. Cn you eat chicken and fish " These are good sources of solid protein. It's not just meats. If you can't eat fowl and fish as major protein sources, , you'll have some extra challenges, from my experience. You can do just fine, but you'll have to depend more on better habits, overcoming emotional eating, good exercise, and the othet things that are YOUR responsibility. The band's fill will be less important, becuase there are no souces of vegetarian protein that have the same meat fibers that the band is meant to restrict. All the vegetariamn sources of protein re basically soft foods, and the band does not restrict these well. The MorningStar " meat " products are pretty solid, but still not quite the same. All you can do is the best you can do! SAndy R > > if i'm filled to that perfect level, what is the amount of food i should be eating at each > meal? AND....... how do I get solid proteins as a vegetarian? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Hey Sandy. You have been really helpful. But I have one more dumb question...... is that 3/4 to 1 cup of CHEWED food, or UNCHEWED food? as for the protein, i like sardines and all fish and the morningstar farms stuff is good. seiten, which is a wheat gluten, is pretty tough and thick like meat. tempeh is okay in terms of being like the texture of meat too. tofu (even if you buy extra firm) IS very soft and won't fit the bill. i can focus on the fish and other meat substitutes. > there are no souces of vegetarian protein that have the same meat fibers that > the band is meant to restrict. All the vegetariamn sources of protein > re basically soft foods, and the band does not restrict these well. > The MorningStar " meat " products are pretty solid, but still not quite > the same. > All you can do is the best you can do! SAndy R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 8:07:20 AM, you wrote: W> Hey Sandy. You have been really helpful. But I have one more dumb question...... is that W> 3/4 to 1 cup of CHEWED food, or UNCHEWED food? as for the protein, i like sardines and W> all fish and the morningstar farms stuff is good. OK. By my definition you're not a vegetarian of either type, but a person who doesn't eat animal meat or red meat (or similar name). I'd have answered that you should eat fish if I'd realized your broader limitations. As to chewed or unchewed, why worry about it? Not like you're going to chew it up, spit it into a measuring cup and then eat it again, is it? Dogs do that, but....doesn't sound like fun to me. You'll know when to stop, and the idea is to learn to tell BEFORE it is time to stop, before barfing, etc. W> seiten, which is a wheat gluten, is pretty W> tough and thick like meat. tempeh is okay in terms of being like the texture of meat too. W> tofu (even if you buy extra firm) IS very soft and won't fit the bill. i can focus on the fish W> and other meat substitutes. You should do fine. I also eat little meat, but lots of fish. I'm allergic to soybeans, so that's not a possibility to me. There are better fish to eat than sardines (I love them, but pretty oily). I find pickled herring a good thing...assuming you like it. Relatively soft, but must be chewed VERY well to keep from getting it stuck. Plenty of fiber in it. dan Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 323/209/199 Age 63 The road goes on forever.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I wish when my dog spit up he'd do it in something like a measuring cup - heck, I'd settle for a bowl. But on my favorite pillow or my couch - I just hate that! <evil grin> On 2/8/06, Dan Lester <honu@...> wrote: > > > As to chewed or unchewed, why worry about it? Not like you're going to > chew it up, spit it into a measuring cup and then eat it again, is it? > Dogs do that, but....doesn't sound like fun to me. You'll know when > to stop, and the idea is to learn to tell BEFORE it is time to stop, > before barfing, etc. > -- Liz Grigorian http://lap-band.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 There are no dumb questions! We all were newbies at one point, and most of what we older ones know came from OUR asking the same questions and learning from the more experienced people when WE were new. Never thought about this question ...I guess it would be chewed food, since that is what is in the pouch, filling it! But we're all different and will need to see what works for us. Remember, the 1-cup thing is only AFTER a good fill. Before that, you'll be able to et more, since the food is leaving the unrestricted pouch almost as fast as you eat. I also love sardines, herring, smoked oysters and find they make an excellent lunch on good fiber crackers, like rye krisp. World Market has a wonderful canned herring in dill sauce. I don't eat all the sauce, and pour the oil off, so it's about a 350 cal lunch. And just in case you think that vegetarians cannot do as well, here is Chris's story: http://www.fisherchristine.addr.com/band.html pretty inspiring! Sandy R www.BandsterME.com > > > there are no souces of vegetarian protein that have the same meat fibers that > > the band is meant to restrict. All the vegetariamn sources of protein > > re basically soft foods, and the band does not restrict these well. > > The MorningStar " meat " products are pretty solid, but still not quite > > the same. > > All you can do is the best you can do! SAndy R > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Sure, they are great sources of protein. To me, they are still of a softer texture than a solid piece of steak, for instance, - but they should work fine. The band is far from a " perfect " thing - and none of is is perfect either - all we can do is the best we can do. If we are not losing as well as we'd like, there are always things that could be improved. but we also have to be realistic in our expectations - if you think you will be losing 10 # a month, every month, straight to goal - well, you'll be disappointed. If nothing else, the band teaches us patience and flexibility. Those that cannot learn really struggle. Sandy R > > Can you eat soy to replace the meat? Garden burgers or Boca Burgers are great in my opinion! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Ick...your dog and my cats should move in together. i am SOOOOOO sick of hairballs.... and on new carpet... sandy R > > > > > > As to chewed or unchewed, why worry about it? Not like you're going to > > chew it up, spit it into a measuring cup and then eat it again, is it? > > Dogs do that, but....doesn't sound like fun to me. You'll know when > > to stop, and the idea is to learn to tell BEFORE it is time to stop, > > before barfing, etc. > > > > -- > Liz Grigorian > http://lap-band.blogspot.com/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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