Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 The second time around with the band is not like the first. With my first band, I lost a lot of weight without a single fill. This time, it's taken three fills just to get to (as of yesterday) good restriction. I may need another tweak but I'll wait a week before I decide. If you have no restriction, you need a fill. Fix Port Hi Everyone, I do not post here to often - but I have a question. I had to have by port repaired & moved. Due to this I was without any restriction for almost 5 months. I had timing conflict to scheduling surgery. Anyways - the port is now fixed - as of Aug. 7th - I had my first fill Aug. 25th - still I do not feel any restriction. I know it is not a week yet - but how long should I wait?? I really want to get back to losing. Thanks, Diane 292/221/150 start/now/goal 2/15/06 - band date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 i have a question about restriction. i realize that the fluid controls the opening between the pouch and the stomach and therefore the amount of food that can go thru. but even with no fluid in the band, it would seem that there is still some restriction right? isnt it a matter of degree? like goldilocks finding the " just right " stuff? At 03:21 PM 8/31/2007, you wrote: >The second time around with the band is not like the first. With my >first band, I lost a lot of weight without a single fill. This time, >it's taken three fills just to get to (as of yesterday) good >restriction. I may need another tweak but I'll wait a week before I >decide. > >If you have no restriction, you need a fill. > > Fix Port > >Hi Everyone, > >I do not post here to often - but I have a question. > >I had to have by port repaired & moved. Due to this I was without any >restriction for almost 5 months. I had timing conflict to scheduling >surgery. Anyways - the port is now fixed - as of Aug. 7th - I had my >first fill Aug. 25th - still I do not feel any restriction. I know it >is not a week yet - but how long should I wait?? I really want to get >back to losing. > >Thanks, > >Diane >292/221/150 >start/now/goal >2/15/06 - band date > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Why is it your second lapband penny day -- Fix Port Hi Everyone, I do not post here to often - but I have a question. I had to have by port repaired & moved. Due to this I was without any restriction for almost 5 months. I had timing conflict to scheduling surgery. Anyways - the port is now fixed - as of Aug. 7th - I had my first fill Aug. 25th - still I do not feel any restriction. I know it is not a week yet - but how long should I wait?? I really want to get back to losing. Thanks, Diane 292/221/150 start/now/goal 2/15/06 - band date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Slippage happens about 3% of the time. I'm one of the 3%. My band had to come out in December and I had it reinstalled in June. Believe me, I am overjoyed to have it back. Fix Port Hi Everyone, I do not post here to often - but I have a question. I had to have by port repaired & moved. Due to this I was without any restriction for almost 5 months. I had timing conflict to scheduling surgery. Anyways - the port is now fixed - as of Aug. 7th - I had my first fill Aug. 25th - still I do not feel any restriction. I know it is not a week yet - but how long should I wait?? I really want to get back to losing. Thanks, Diane 292/221/150 start/now/goal 2/15/06 - band date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 >> but even with no fluid in the band, it would seem that there is still some restriction right?<< There is some but it's barely detectable in many people. In others, it's enough that they don't need a fill for a long time. (Sometimes the surgeon will put some fill in the band at the time it's placed.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Sharon, what were the symptoms? How could you tell the band slipped? Do they know what caused it? I am interested in understanding a bit more/. Sorry you had to go thru that again...how long had it been in before you realized it had slipped? At 01:15 AM 9/1/2007, you wrote: >Slippage happens about 3% of the time. I'm one of the 3%. My band had to >come out in December and I had it reinstalled in June. Believe me, I am >overjoyed to have it back. > > > Fix Port > >Hi Everyone, > >I do not post here to often - but I have a question. > >I had to have by port repaired & moved. Due to this I was without any >restriction for almost 5 months. I had timing conflict to scheduling >surgery. Anyways - the port is now fixed - as of Aug. 7th - I had my >first fill Aug. 25th - still I do not feel any restriction. I know it >is not a week yet - but how long should I wait?? I really want to get >back to losing. > >Thanks, > >Diane >292/221/150 >start/now/goal >2/15/06 - band date > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 >> what were the symptoms? How could you tell the band slipped? Do they know what caused it? I am interested in understanding a bit more/. Sorry you had to go thru that again...how long had it been in before you realized it had slipped?<< Symptoms: reflux, heartburn. Weight loss slowed and then stopped. It started (I think) when I had too much fill. Right about that time, my husband and I (plus 1 dog and 4 cats) were preparing to move from California to British Columbia, Canada. I'm sure it was less complicated than moving to say, France, but moving to another country is a full-time job, at least for a while. It was another year during which the symptoms went from bad to worse before I could get back to my surgeon in Mexico. The band was removed and reinstalled in Mexico and I got my first fill there as well. This time, I have a different band and the surgeon told me that he anchored it firmly and that there was no way this one would slip. The doctor said I didn't cause it but I think I contributed to it by all the vomiting I did while the band was too tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 ah, thank you. i didnt want to make you relive it, but i was not aware of how you can tell it happened. i sympathize about moving. although it is just to the next town, i am going to be moving next month...so i am a bit stressed and trying to keep relatively normal. i also have parrots and i am trying not to get them too upset either!!! At 07:56 PM 9/1/2007, you wrote: > > >> what were the symptoms? How could you tell the band slipped? >Do they know what caused it? I am interested in understanding a bit >more/. Sorry you had to go thru that again...how long had it been in >before you realized it had slipped?<< > > >Symptoms: reflux, heartburn. Weight loss slowed and then stopped. > >It started (I think) when I had too much fill. Right about that time, my >husband and I (plus 1 dog and 4 cats) were preparing to move from >California to British Columbia, Canada. I'm sure it was less complicated >than moving to say, France, but moving to another country is a full-time >job, at least for a while. It was another year during which the symptoms >went from bad to worse before I could get back to my surgeon in Mexico. >The band was removed and reinstalled in Mexico and I got my first fill >there as well. This time, I have a different band and the surgeon told >me that he anchored it firmly and that there was no way this one would >slip. >The doctor said I didn't cause it but I think I contributed to it by all >the vomiting I did while the band was too tight. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 >> i didnt want to make you relive it, but i was not aware of how you can tell it happened.<< So much of what it takes to be successful with the band can be summed up as " listen to your body. " When something is really not right, you can tell. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Just as with the first band or port, it takes most people 3-5 small fills to get to a good level. they can be safely given about a month apart. Some fills do not settle in for 1-2 weeks, then iut takes another 1-2 weeks to further adjust your eating so you can see how the fill is. Go for more monthly, if needed, until you;re just right - but I know you know that the fill is only part of the solution. If you're choosing wise foods and getting some decent exercise, we can still be losoing even before we get to a great fill level. You might find it useful to review the " Band Eating Guide " in the files here, for a review of good eating, food choices, needed nutrition, etc. Please be sure youre getting enough iron-containing foods (red meat, turkey, shrimp, etc), good Omega 3 oils from Salmon or a supplement, and enough calcium - 1200 mg for those women less than 50, 1500 mg for those over 50, and 1000 mg a day for all men. Glad you're getting back on track! Sandy r > > Hi Everyone, > > I do not post here to often - but I have a question. > > I had to have by port repaired & moved. Due to this I was without any > restriction for almost 5 months. I had timing conflict to scheduling > surgery. Anyways - the port is now fixed - as of Aug. 7th - I had my > first fill Aug. 25th - still I do not feel any restriction. I know it > is not a week yet - but how long should I wait?? I really want to get > back to losing. > > Thanks, > > Diane > 292/221/150 > start/now/goal > 2/15/06 - band date > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Hi, Diane - It's very individual, as most band things are. With most poeople, ther is no restriction until a good fill level is reached. The band is around the top part of the stomach loosely, but not creating a stoma at all. It's the inflating of the band that creates, and then later narrows, the stoma. A few people, mostly ones starting on the larger side, do have a bit of restriction just from band placment, even with no fills. Sandy r > > i have a question about restriction. > i realize that the fluid controls the opening between the pouch and > the stomach and therefore the amount of food that can go thru. but > even with no fluid in the band, it would seem that there is still > some restriction right? isnt it a matter of degree? like goldilocks > finding the " just right " stuff? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Sharon, with a band slip - the band itself does not move at all. They all should be anchored in place well. But with a slip - it's the stomach that slips up thru the band, while the band remains in place. So a slip can occur at any time we are barfing, have a too-tight fill (leading yto barfing), or toerwise ignoruing tha band needs. It has nothing at all to do with how securely the band is installed, assuming of course that it is placed in the right psoitino, and the stanadrd suturing techniques are used. Just to clarify, for the new people. I wish the term " Band slip " would be banned! It's very misleading - we should be saying a " stomach slip. " There are also small slips that have no symtoms at first, until they progress. THis is why it's wise to get a fluoro every 6 months or so, at least, when we are in the active " fill and lose " phase. Many small problems are picked up this way, before they become big problems. WE all need very regular care when we are banded - but I know that is haed sometimes. Sandy R > > > > >> what were the symptoms? How could you tell the band slipped? > Do they know what caused it? I am interested in understanding a bit > more/. Sorry you had to go thru that again...how long had it been in > before you realized it had slipped?<< > > > Symptoms: reflux, heartburn. Weight loss slowed and then stopped. > > It started (I think) when I had too much fill. Right about that time, my > husband and I (plus 1 dog and 4 cats) were preparing to move from > California to British Columbia, Canada. I'm sure it was less complicated > than moving to say, France, but moving to another country is a full- time > job, at least for a while. It was another year during which the symptoms > went from bad to worse before I could get back to my surgeon in Mexico. > The band was removed and reinstalled in Mexico and I got my first fill > there as well. This time, I have a different band and the surgeon told > me that he anchored it firmly and that there was no way this one would > slip. > The doctor said I didn't cause it but I think I contributed to it by all > the vomiting I did while the band was too tight. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 thanks for the suggestion re flouro. i am going to request it next time. i have no symptoms, but i think that it would give me peace of mind. what is the difference between slip and erosion? i had my surgery done at duke. the majority of people get the rny -- which they call the gold standard ( i think its because they get twice as much gold for an rny than the lapband) -- but the number of lapbands is increasing. they did a fluoroscope while i was in the hospital before they released me, but not since. At 09:41 PM 9/1/2007, you wrote: >Sharon, with a band slip - the band itself does not move at all. They >all should be anchored in place well. >But with a slip - it's the stomach that slips up thru the band, while >the band remains in place. > >So a slip can occur at any time we are barfing, have a too-tight fill >(leading yto barfing), or toerwise ignoruing tha band needs. It has >nothing at all to do with how securely the band is installed, >assuming of course that it is placed in the right psoitino, and the >stanadrd suturing techniques are used. > >Just to clarify, for the new people. I wish the term " Band slip " >would be banned! It's very misleading - we should be saying >a " stomach slip. " > >There are also small slips that have no symtoms at first, until they >progress. THis is why it's wise to get a fluoro every 6 months or so, >at least, when we are in the active " fill and lose " phase. Many small >problems are picked up this way, before they become big problems. >WE all need very regular care when we are banded - but I know that is >haed sometimes. > >Sandy R > > > > > > > > > > > >> what were the symptoms? How could you tell the band slipped? > > Do they know what caused it? I am interested in understanding a bit > > more/. Sorry you had to go thru that again...how long had it been >in > > before you realized it had slipped?<< > > > > > > Symptoms: reflux, heartburn. Weight loss slowed and then stopped. > > > > It started (I think) when I had too much fill. Right about that >time, my > > husband and I (plus 1 dog and 4 cats) were preparing to move from > > California to British Columbia, Canada. I'm sure it was less >complicated > > than moving to say, France, but moving to another country is a full- >time > > job, at least for a while. It was another year during which the >symptoms > > went from bad to worse before I could get back to my surgeon in >Mexico. > > The band was removed and reinstalled in Mexico and I got my first >fill > > there as well. This time, I have a different band and the surgeon >told > > me that he anchored it firmly and that there was no way this one >would > > slip. > > The doctor said I didn't cause it but I think I contributed to it >by all > > the vomiting I did while the band was too tight. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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