Re: 4:20 and the band

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Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 12:29:23 AM, you wrote:

t> im also wondering how the " munchies " affects bandsters and any other

t> relevant info related to this subject...

I've not smoked any of that stuff in over twenty years, but I can

comment on the munchies, as imagine most of us can. It sure didn't

take getting stoned or drunk for me to get the munchies. I still get

them sometimes, often for reasons I can identify, sometimes for ones I

can't.

What's the difference now? I can't eat much. And some stuff that I'd

munch on gets stuck. I've gotten stuck on bread products, chips,

pizza, nuts, and so forth. Fortunately for me ice cream is not

something I get the munchies for, though even that self limits to some

extent for me, as cold things tighten up my band a lot.

So you'll find a whole different world. And hopefully as you lose you

won't have as much need for your herbal drug (not judging that drug,

just expecting you'll have less pain and less need for any drugs). It

should be an interesting experience.

dan

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.gailndan.com/lapband

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/228/199

[Guest guest]

Dan- since you haven't smoked it in 20 years, why are you answering

his questions?

I saw this post last night and was very curious myself to see who

would answer, cause they will sure get invited to my private party

at bash-not you Dan, unless you want to break that 20 year drought.

Let me be the first to freely admit that I have smoked plenty of

dope since getting banded, it has no calories, I drink lots of water

when I do it, drinking time is not eating time, so if I get the

munchies I just smoke another bowl and drink more water. It is

nobodys business how much or how often, and neither will I be

scoring for anyone.

I did try to email Stan about this privately, but he did't respond,

so I am hesitantly outing myself here, because I want to know the

answers. I think you should be honest with your surgeon about it,

maybe she will put in a couple of extra stitches. Avoid coughing by

taking smaller more frequent hits and drinking.

So, if anyone has factual information, I am sure there are more

inquiring minds that want to know......

Jan

>

> t> im also wondering how the " munchies " affects bandsters and any

other

> t> relevant info related to this subject...

>

> I've not smoked any of that stuff in over twenty years, but I can

> comment on the munchies, as imagine most of us can. It sure didn't

> take getting stoned or drunk for me to get the munchies. I still

get

> them sometimes, often for reasons I can identify, sometimes for

ones I

> can't.

>

> What's the difference now? I can't eat much. And some stuff that

I'd

> munch on gets stuck. I've gotten stuck on bread products, chips,

> pizza, nuts, and so forth. Fortunately for me ice cream is not

> something I get the munchies for, though even that self limits to

some

> extent for me, as cold things tighten up my band a lot.

>

> So you'll find a whole different world. And hopefully as you lose

you

> won't have as much need for your herbal drug (not judging that

drug,

> just expecting you'll have less pain and less need for any

drugs). It

> should be an interesting experience.

>

> dan

>

>

> Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@g... www.gailndan.com/lapband

> Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

> 323/228/199

[Guest guest]

rite on jan, i appreciate your response, and i look forward to

meeting you...you covered some topics i didnt...no calories unlike

alcohol...ok maybe i smoke for other reasons...but that really

doesnt matter, the fact remains it is the safest of all the

intoxicants...worse case scenario you attack a box of twinkies,

unlike alcohol where you might get angry enough to attack and hurt a

loved one...im not that way but we all know people who are...i'll

get my email later tonite...thanks again

> >

> > t> im also wondering how the " munchies " affects bandsters and

any

> other

> > t> relevant info related to this subject...

> >

> > I've not smoked any of that stuff in over twenty years, but I can

> > comment on the munchies, as imagine most of us can. It sure

didn't

> > take getting stoned or drunk for me to get the munchies. I

still

> get

> > them sometimes, often for reasons I can identify, sometimes for

> ones I

> > can't.

> >

> > What's the difference now? I can't eat much. And some stuff

that

> I'd

> > munch on gets stuck. I've gotten stuck on bread products, chips,

> > pizza, nuts, and so forth. Fortunately for me ice cream is not

> > something I get the munchies for, though even that self limits

to

> some

> > extent for me, as cold things tighten up my band a lot.

> >

> > So you'll find a whole different world. And hopefully as you

lose

> you

> > won't have as much need for your herbal drug (not judging that

> drug,

> > just expecting you'll have less pain and less need for any

> drugs). It

> > should be an interesting experience.

> >

> > dan

> >

> >

> > Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@g... www.gailndan.com/lapband

> > Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

> > 323/228/199

[Guest guest]

I wonder how many of us bandsters, having had the courage to undergo optional

surgery, now find themselves wondering about blind obedience to society's laws?

While I haven't violated any yet, I now look to see if they really make sense or

just serve to make money for an elite group or just respect some other group's

desires. Ie anti marijuana laws serve to increse profits of the liquor and

brewing interests (I won't even go into hemp for paper and clothing!).

Personally I feel a law is rather specious if the only real reason for obeying

it is that if you don't and get caught and prosecuted/convicted then being in

prison is likely to be bad for your health. I remember some public figure

stating that back in the 60s regarding health risks of pot.

Larry Murray

[Guest guest]

Most excellent post larry one of your best I believe.

Re: 4:20 and the band

I wonder how many of us bandsters, having had the courage to undergo

optional surgery, now find themselves wondering about blind obedience to

society's laws?

While I haven't violated any yet, I now look to see if they really make

sense or just serve to make money for an elite group or just respect some

other group's desires. Ie anti marijuana laws serve to increse profits of

the liquor and brewing interests (I won't even go into hemp for paper and

clothing!).

Personally I feel a law is rather specious if the only real reason for

obeying it is that if you don't and get caught and prosecuted/convicted then

being in prison is likely to be bad for your health. I remember some public

figure stating that back in the 60s regarding health risks of pot.

Larry Murray

Seattle Bandster Splash and Bash!

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[Guest guest]

Boy, I get sick for a few days and all hell breaks loose!

If anyone can answer Stan's question about how pot smoking has affected

their band journey, it might be prudent to post it to him privately. Stan

can pass on the info. to the list without all the pot smokers having to out

themselves, and without the rest of us feeling uncomfortable about being

surrounded by a bunch of damn off-topic hippies. :-)

I do agree that folks should have all the facts about the effects of various

types of smoke on healing after surgery. It would be nice if we could have

some idea of what, if any, additional risks there are for pot-smoking

bandsters... but other than the same risks assumed by all smokers of wacky

tabacky (black lungs, anybody?), it seems additional info will be a long

time coming since so much of this band stuff is new and unhcharted

territory.

I personally hate the green stuff (it stinks!), but what people smoke or

don't smoke isn't any of my business. And chances are good that folks who

smoke weed know why their doctors would say they shouldn't, and choose to

anyway. Their prerogative.

As for medical people smoking weed in their spare time... well, let's just

say I'm a bit more concerned about the pilots who stop off by the bar on

their way to work!

Sarina Mc

MIDband, Dr. Frering

Lyon, France - 11/06/02

215 / 132 / 115

size 18-20W / size 4 / size 2 (4'10 " )

[Guest guest]

-Well since this is confession time. Pot, Pringles and Alcohol.

Finally got my fill yestereday. Had run out of most of my execuses.

Today I was determined to be good .Had my coffee with milk(well it

was cream) and bought a hard boil egg with me to a council meeting I

needed to go to. I don't know why I bought the big bag of buttered

popcorn -other than the butter whould help the egg go down. Now I

know there is something wrong with this picture. Dah! Just need to

see the visuals earlier. Think I need a tighter fill and a bandaid

across my mouth. joanne

-- In , " Sarina Mc "

<sarinamcdonald@m...> wrote:

> Boy, I get sick for a few days and all hell breaks loose!

>

> If anyone can answer Stan's question about how pot smoking has

affected

> their band journey, it might be prudent to post it to him

privately. Stan

> can pass on the info. to the list without all the pot smokers

having to out

> themselves, and without the rest of us feeling uncomfortable about

being

> surrounded by a bunch of damn off-topic hippies. :-)

>

> I do agree that folks should have all the facts about the effects

of various

> types of smoke on healing after surgery. It would be nice if we

could have

> some idea of what, if any, additional risks there are for pot-

smoking

> bandsters... but other than the same risks assumed by all smokers

of wacky

> tabacky (black lungs, anybody?), it seems additional info will be a

long

> time coming since so much of this band stuff is new and unhcharted

> territory.

>

> I personally hate the green stuff (it stinks!), but what people

smoke or

> don't smoke isn't any of my business. And chances are good that

folks who

> smoke weed know why their doctors would say they shouldn't, and

choose to

> anyway. Their prerogative.

>

> As for medical people smoking weed in their spare time... well,

let's just

> say I'm a bit more concerned about the pilots who stop off by the

bar on

> their way to work!

>

> Sarina Mc

> MIDband, Dr. Frering

> Lyon, France - 11/06/02

> 215 / 132 / 115

> size 18-20W / size 4 / size 2 (4'10 " )

[Guest guest]

---

OOPS. Someone just wrote me offline about my confession. Pot,

Pringles and Alcohol-Not me- I was refering to other bandsters

confessions. Mine and always has been -food.I'm Jewish but I saw

others here lining up at the confessional and thought well, it was

about time to come clean maybe I'd feel better about my sin buttered

popcorn(BIG Big bag). joanne

> -Well since this is confession time. Pot, Pringles and Alcohol.

> Finally got my fill yestereday. Had run out of most of my

execuses.

> Today I was determined to be good .Had my coffee with milk(well it

> was cream) and bought a hard boil egg with me to a council meeting

I

> needed to go to. I don't know why I bought the big bag of buttered

> popcorn -other than the butter whould help the egg go down. Now I

> know there is something wrong with this picture. Dah! Just need to

> see the visuals earlier. Think I need a tighter fill and a bandaid

> across my mouth. joanne

> -- In , " Sarina Mc "

> <sarinamcdonald@m...> wrote:

> > Boy, I get sick for a few days and all hell breaks loose!

> >

> > If anyone can answer Stan's question about how pot smoking has

> affected

> > their band journey, it might be prudent to post it to him

> privately. Stan

> > can pass on the info. to the list without all the pot smokers

> having to out

> > themselves, and without the rest of us feeling uncomfortable

about

> being

> > surrounded by a bunch of damn off-topic hippies. :-)

> >

> > I do agree that folks should have all the facts about the effects

> of various

> > types of smoke on healing after surgery. It would be nice if we

> could have

> > some idea of what, if any, additional risks there are for pot-

> smoking

> > bandsters... but other than the same risks assumed by all smokers

> of wacky

> > tabacky (black lungs, anybody?), it seems additional info will be

a

> long

> > time coming since so much of this band stuff is new and unhcharted

> > territory.

> >

> > I personally hate the green stuff (it stinks!), but what people

> smoke or

> > don't smoke isn't any of my business. And chances are good that

> folks who

> > smoke weed know why their doctors would say they shouldn't, and

> choose to

> > anyway. Their prerogative.

> >

> > As for medical people smoking weed in their spare time... well,

> let's just

> > say I'm a bit more concerned about the pilots who stop off by the

> bar on

> > their way to work!

> >

> > Sarina Mc

> > MIDband, Dr. Frering

> > Lyon, France - 11/06/02

> > 215 / 132 / 115

> > size 18-20W / size 4 / size 2 (4'10 " )