Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Hi Group, Am I just now catching on that there is bad bile and good bile?? Is this like the good cholesterol or bad cholesterol theory??? I need more info about this........ thanks, Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 well the bile is what makes the cholesterol because when it is released into the intestines it is then reabsorbed into the blood stream and filters back into the liver for reuse is is very much related to cholesterol . As far as good cholesterol and bad cholesterol there are many theorys what I find is true is weather the oil is oxegen permeable or not and is natural or not to be most important. partialy hydrogenated anything dont belong in the body . What this really is the food manufactureres adding non organic oils and products to there food products so the shelf life of the product is longer the problem is when you have some type of oil or fat that is not oxygen permable then it suffercates your veins and arteries. unsaturated and saturated is weather the oil or fat is able to carry other materials with it as it travels through your veins and arteries, saturated would not be able to carry as much as unsaturated. I do not believe either of the two to be harmful as long as it is natural and organic. Sodium nitrate , msg, modified food starch , aspartame and sugar and sugar substitutes I avoid them as much as I can Good bile is related to alakaline ph rather then acidic ph ladybug35@... wrote: > Hi Group, > Am I just now catching on that there is bad bile and good bile?? Is > this like the good cholesterol or bad cholesterol theory??? I need > more info about this........ > thanks, Dee > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 Yes Dave, Here in Japan a major part of the cooking oil is corn oil. I believe they call it " canula " . After that, there is is soybean oil. Finally, there is safflower oil made from safflowers, a sort of minor sunflower which is maybe similar to rape seed oil. There is a new oil called " Econa " which they found helps people to avoid putting on weight. I think it might also be soybean oil. Anyway, how do these other oils measure up in terms of how they congeal after cooking? Max ----- Original Message ----- From: " Dave Shelden " <wholehealthawareness@...> <gallstones > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Re: Good Bile vs Bad Bile ? > Bile is made of: water, cholesterol, bile salts (minerals + bile acids), bilirubin, and lecithin. Bile is not reabsorbed and transported through the cardiovascular system as bile; it is emulsified into smaller constituents which are then reabsorbed. Your gallstones form when the cholesterol (and other constituents) comes out of suspension in the bile. Bile does not make cholesterol, cholesterol is a component of bile. Your liver makes cholesterol. Saturation refers to the amount of hydrogen ions bonded to a particular fat in relation to the no. of ions that can bind. Coconut oil is a saturated oil. All the hydrogen that can be is bonded. Superior high heat cooking oil due to it's smoke point. Hydrogenation is the process of increasing the hydrogen bonding to a non saturated oil; usually done by heating. Corn oil pours just fine out of a bottle at room temperature. High heat it and let it cool- no more pour. Scrub like mad to get the pan clean. Think about what that does inside the body. Margarines are hydrogenated. Containing trans-fats; You don't want those either. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Liz Sapareto<mailto:lizsapar@...> > gallstones <mailto:gallstones > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Good Bile vs Bad Bile ? > > > , > When bile is released into the intestine and then reaches the bloodstream, does it attach ( " pickup " ) to cholesterol in the blood/tissues and transport it back to the liver ? Maybe this is how so many gall stones come out when flushing. > > Belskis <brian0017@...<mailto:brian0017@...>> wrote: > well the bile is what makes the cholesterol because when it is > released into the intestines > it is then reabsorbed into the blood stream and filters back into > the liver for reuse > > is is very much related to cholesterol . > > As far as good cholesterol and bad cholesterol there are many theorys > > what I find is true is weather the oil is oxegen permeable or not and > is natural or not to be most important. > > partialy hydrogenated anything dont belong in the body . What > this really is the food manufactureres adding non organic oils and > products to there food products so the shelf life of the product > is longer the problem is when you have some type of oil or fat > that is not oxygen permable then it suffercates your veins and arteries. > > unsaturated and saturated is weather the oil or fat is able to > carry other materials with it > as it travels through your veins and arteries, saturated would not > be able to carry as much as unsaturated. I do not believe either of > the two to be harmful as long as it is natural and organic. > > Sodium nitrate , msg, modified food starch , aspartame and sugar and > sugar substitutes > I avoid them as much as I can > > Good bile is related to alakaline ph rather then acidic ph > > > > > ladybug35@...<mailto:ladybug35@...> wrote: > > > Hi Group, > > Am I just now catching on that there is bad bile and good bile?? Is > > this like the good cholesterol or bad cholesterol theory??? I need > > more info about this........ > > thanks, Dee > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 the liver is the filter of the blood the gallstones are what was filtered out of the blood after flushing out all the galllstones from your liver (3-5 )flushes you can maintain not having to do any more flushes by having a tablespoon of olive oil a day that continuely removes the chaff from your liver not creating any more gallstones again Liz Sapareto wrote: > , > When bile is released into the intestine and then reaches the > bloodstream, does it attach ( " pickup " ) to cholesterol in the > blood/tissues and transport it back to the liver ? Maybe this is how > so many gall stones come out when flushing. > > Belskis <brian0017@...> wrote: > well the bile is what makes the cholesterol because when it is > released into the intestines > it is then reabsorbed into the blood stream and filters back into > the liver for reuse > > is is very much related to cholesterol . > > As far as good cholesterol and bad cholesterol there are many theorys > > what I find is true is weather the oil is oxegen permeable or not and > is natural or not to be most important. > > partialy hydrogenated anything dont belong in the body . What > this really is the food manufactureres adding non organic oils and > products to there food products so the shelf life of the product > is longer the problem is when you have some type of oil or fat > that is not oxygen permable then it suffercates your veins and arteries. > > unsaturated and saturated is weather the oil or fat is able to > carry other materials with it > as it travels through your veins and arteries, saturated would not > be able to carry as much as unsaturated. I do not believe either of > the two to be harmful as long as it is natural and organic. > > Sodium nitrate , msg, modified food starch , aspartame and sugar and > sugar substitutes > I avoid them as much as I can > > Good bile is related to alakaline ph rather then acidic ph > > > > > ladybug35@... wrote: > > > Hi Group, > > Am I just now catching on that there is bad bile and good bile?? Is > > this like the good cholesterol or bad cholesterol theory??? I need > > more info about this........ > > thanks, Dee > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 great post Dave and I couldn't agree more with your info. We find those with cholesterol numbers under 160 to be on the dangerous side for those of us that are low in thyroid as well as adrenal fatigue/insufficiency. Most of our adrenal people have very low cholesterol numbers because hormones need cholesterol!!!!! and for those with high cholesterol we find digestive issues associated with low thyroid. one has to take the problems apart to find the answer!!! thank you for the info! tina > > > > > Hi Group, > > > Am I just now catching on that there is bad bile and good bile?? Is > > > this like the good cholesterol or bad cholesterol theory??? I need > > > more info about this........ > > > thanks, Dee > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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