Re: Eating Rules

[Guest guest]

,

I found myself listening to the " Assumptions " series, as some(I think Sue?)

suggested. It has been a help. I will go back and listen again to the limiting

beliefs sets, as well.

I thank you for your perspective. As always, your guidance from a psychological

standpoint is highly beneficial. While I felt like a scolded child , I saw

your words to be true. I see things from black and white and I need to be proud

of what I have done. All-in-all, if I should improve anything it is self love

and appreciation, as well as patience. The rest, I have got it covered lol.

My hat is off to you and I would love to know how you are such a master at this.

Thanks for your time and your sincerity.

T

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Re: Eating " Rules "

Thanks, , for your thoughtful response. What makes me feel better? My Dew.

Well, I know that is only a temporary fix.

What makes me happy?

I have no idea. I guess I will have to see about that.

T

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-----Original Message-----

[Guest guest]

((Tania)) Sorry if you feel scolded. That wasn't my intention....

Any mastery I've gained is because I've been at this a loooooong time, long

before I found IOWL. :-)

PS: for what it's worth, here's something I wrote recently about dealing with my

own Inner Teenager. Maybe you can find a similar way to connect the current you

and the teenage you?

~~~~~~~~

In the course of my inner work this year on issues with hitting the same age my

dad was when he died, it hit me that my girls are now 16. My sisters were 17

and 15 when he died. (I was 19.) Gave me some sort of perception whiplash, to

suddenly see myself so much in my mother's shoes.

I started wondering if there was *anything* she could have done, in her grief,

bombarded with paperwork, losing her job (when they told her to take all the

time she needed), finding work, etc. etc. to do *anything* different with

me--considering I wasn't even living in the same state.

I started thinking of how I was back then. How much I pushed her away. How

nasty I could be to her, for no reason. I started thinking how prickly I was. I

started actually seeing an image of my 19yo self, covered with spikes. Long

ones--10-12 " --all over me. Kind of like an inside-out iron maiden....

I saw my current self hug that former self, taking the spikes in. Absorbing

them all. My mother could never have done it--the spikes would have wounded her

too deeply. (Even if we're talking about imagery....) But I could take them in.

Not painlessly, but when I took that prickly layer into my current self, it

dissolved harmlessly.

Because, after all, it's part of me.

________________________________

From: " tania_khalil@... " <tania_khalil@...>

weightloss

Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 1:17:42 PM

Subject: Re: Eating " Rules "

,

I found myself listening to the " Assumptions " series, as some(I think Sue?)

suggested. It has been a help. I will go back and listen again to the limiting

beliefs sets, as well.

I thank you for your perspective. As always, your guidance from a psychological

standpoint is highly beneficial. While I felt like a scolded child , I saw

your words to be true. I see things from black and white and I need to be proud

of what I have done. All-in-all, if I should improve anything it is self love

and appreciation, as well as patience. The rest, I have got it covered lol.

My hat is off to you and I would love to know how you are such a master at

this. Thanks for your time and your sincerity.

T

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Re: Eating " Rules "

Thanks, , for your thoughtful response. What makes me feel better? My Dew.

Well, I know that is only a temporary fix.

What makes me happy?

I have no idea. I guess I will have to see about that.

T

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-----Original Message-----

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for sharing . I too am trying to embrace me in all my aspects

and there are days when I feel great and days like today (wearing my tennis

skirt AND playing a lousy game of tennis) when I have to take time out ,spend

some time on my own to talk to myself, reflect and " give myself an extra hug "

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On Mar 18, 2011, at 14:16, <lsageev@...> wrote:

> ((Tania)) Sorry if you feel scolded. That wasn't my intention....

>

> Any mastery I've gained is because I've been at this a loooooong time, long

> before I found IOWL. :-)

>

>

>

> PS: for what it's worth, here's something I wrote recently about dealing with

my

> own Inner Teenager. Maybe you can find a similar way to connect the current

you

> and the teenage you?

>

> ~~~~~~~~

> In the course of my inner work this year on issues with hitting the same age

my

> dad was when he died, it hit me that my girls are now 16. My sisters were 17

> and 15 when he died. (I was 19.) Gave me some sort of perception whiplash, to

> suddenly see myself so much in my mother's shoes.

>

> I started wondering if there was *anything* she could have done, in her grief,

> bombarded with paperwork, losing her job (when they told her to take all the

> time she needed), finding work, etc. etc. to do *anything* different with

> me--considering I wasn't even living in the same state.

>

> I started thinking of how I was back then. How much I pushed her away. How

> nasty I could be to her, for no reason. I started thinking how prickly I was.

I

> started actually seeing an image of my 19yo self, covered with spikes. Long

> ones--10-12 " --all over me. Kind of like an inside-out iron maiden....

>

> I saw my current self hug that former self, taking the spikes in. Absorbing

> them all. My mother could never have done it--the spikes would have wounded

her

> too deeply. (Even if we're talking about imagery....) But I could take them

in.

> Not painlessly, but when I took that prickly layer into my current self, it

> dissolved harmlessly.

>

> Because, after all, it's part of me.

>

> ________________________________

> From: " tania_khalil@... " <tania_khalil@...>

> weightloss

> Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 1:17:42 PM

> Subject: Re: Eating " Rules "

>

> ,

>

> I found myself listening to the " Assumptions " series, as some(I think Sue?)

> suggested. It has been a help. I will go back and listen again to the limiting

> beliefs sets, as well.

>

> I thank you for your perspective. As always, your guidance from a

psychological

> standpoint is highly beneficial. While I felt like a scolded child , I saw

> your words to be true. I see things from black and white and I need to be

proud

> of what I have done. All-in-all, if I should improve anything it is self love

> and appreciation, as well as patience. The rest, I have got it covered lol.

>

> My hat is off to you and I would love to know how you are such a master at

> this. Thanks for your time and your sincerity.

>

> T

> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

>

> Re: Eating " Rules "

>

> Thanks, , for your thoughtful response. What makes me feel better? My Dew.

>

> Well, I know that is only a temporary fix.

>

> What makes me happy?

>

> I have no idea. I guess I will have to see about that.

>

> T

> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

You cannot imagine how in awe I am right now, reading what you have written.

The images that you can muster are amazing. I don't know if it is my lack of

literary education that prevents me from seeing such things or just lack of

imagination. Your mind serves to you what you need, that is a gift.

In addition, after reading your passage, the pain concept stuck to me. In

combination with what mentioned in the " Assumptions " work about causing

ourselves pain by bingeing, I am reminded of my teenage years. A troubled time

for me and my parents. Whose wasn't, right? But, memories of having caused

myself pain came flooding to the surface. The pain was a release for me. As I

grew, my affection for pain found a new outlet. The gym. I worked out like a

crazy woman. The guys always gave me a hard time in trying to get me to compete

in bench press competitions. I eventually grew out of that, as well. However,

in my revival of exercise, I have found that BodyRock.tv causes great pains post

workout. A pain that makes me feel youthful and alive. Yet, the eating I do

now is my source of pain. Physical and mental pain. I am even more confused

now than when I started this post. I was going to delete, but it will remain in

case anyone has insights on how to deal with this. Perhaps returning to the

BodyRock exercises are essential in order to sanely and happily (because I did

find happiness in doing them) handle this? Or just figuring out why I am like

this and getting past it? Sorry for the ramble...I guess that was Jenn that

offered the free flow journal idea. Lol.

Thank you again, for bringing all of this back in me.

T

PS there was no offense taken in the scolded child feelings

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Re: Eating " Rules "

Thanks, , for your thoughtful response. What makes me feel better? My Dew.

Well, I know that is only a temporary fix.

What makes me happy?

I have no idea. I guess I will have to see about that.

T

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-----Original Message-----

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the Tania and show! LOL! (Constance, hope it's not too quiet for

you now!!)

I know I said something similar recently, but sometimes it helps to rephrase in

a slightly different context....

When I realize that I am eating to cause myself pain, I ask myself what pain I

don't want to feel.

At this point, it really is almost as simple as that--but it took a long time to

get here. It took practice--at first asking myself after the binge was over,

then gradually learning to ask during the binge, then when I first noticed

mindless eating. Asking could be an inner dialog, or through journalling, or

blogging, or letting my thoughts rub together while I'm on the treadmill...

Asking is sometimes listening to 's conflict resolution download, or the

" lite " version--podcast 4. Since I do get such amazing images, it works really

well for me. If you are not so visual, or at least, not with the mental images,

maybe you can find something else that works? Drawing? Playing around in a

graphics editor? Trying to " hear " the way your emotions are at the moment? Is it

dissonant or consonant? Loud or quiet? Lots of drums, or tenor sax??? (LOL, I

think I'm getting carried away!!!!)

Hmmm. One thing I did for a while, pre-IOWL, when I was learning to really

identify and validate my own feelings--was to set my watch to beep on the hour.

When it beeped, I had to pause a moment to identify my dominant emotion. I

didn't have to do anything more than than--just identify. Often it allowed me to

address something before I got to the binge stage.

OK, I've used up more than my fair share of electrons for the day!

[Guest guest]

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Livingston

<jenniferpl@...> wrote:

>

>It is only when I practice

> extreme behaviors do I feel my body....starving or overeating to when my

stomach

> feels uncomfortable or naseous.

> Jen

>

>

You sound like me. Eating any food doesn't necessarily make me feel

good OR bad. It's only when I eat too MUCH of it that I get any

physical effect. Other than that, I don't feel *anything*.

Eldred

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[Guest guest]

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:50 AM, <lsageev@...> wrote:

> Tania, you are keeping in mind that Mountain Dew has a fair amount of

caffeine,

> right? So there's a physical addiction factor unrelated to your emotional

state.

>

Only if the caffeine affects her. Some of us have no reaction to it.

Although we are probably the outliers...

Eldred

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Good point. No, not outliers--apparently it's roughly half and half, whether

you're sensitive to it or not. (First link I found--not necessarily the best

source:

http://www.stress-fat-heart-solutions-for-boomers.com/the-caffeine-metabolizing-\

gene.html)

Though there's probably a pretty healthy dose of high-fructose corn syrup, too.

As far as I know, evidence about the addictive qualities of HFCS is anecdotal,

but still...

Anyway, Tania, whether you're sensitive or not, a serving of Turkish coffee

(even with sugar) is probably better for you than the Dew. (Though it takes

longer to prepare. Hmmmm. Boil up a pot of it in the morning, and leave in a

Thermos, so it's just as quick as grabbing a can???)

________________________________

From: Eldred Pickett <epickett@...>

weightloss

Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 7:24:01 PM

Subject: Re: Eating " Rules "

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:50 AM, <lsageev@...> wrote:

> Tania, you are keeping in mind that Mountain Dew has a fair amount of

caffeine,

> right? So there's a physical addiction factor unrelated to your emotional

>state.

>

Only if the caffeine affects her. Some of us have no reaction to it.

Although we are probably the outliers...

Eldred

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[Guest guest]

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM, <lsageev@...> wrote:

> Good point. No, not outliers--apparently it's roughly half and half, whether

> you're sensitive to it or not. (First link I found--not necessarily the best

> source:

>

http://www.stress-fat-heart-solutions-for-boomers.com/the-caffeine-metabolizing-\

gene.html)

>

So if I understand that correctly, the people who aren't affected by

caffeine have the fast gene? So it gets out of our system without

building up?

Eldred

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the post. I am a person that has to avoid caffeine. It makes my

heart race and thump. I wondered why I was sensitive to it. Now I get it.

Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the post. I am a person that has to avoid caffeine. It makes my

heart race and thump. I wondered why I was sensitive to it. Now I get it.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPad