IBS

August 3, 2006

Hi Dave

I have had a health issue with overactive bowel (IBS) recently. It was very

distressing, wanting to defecate (several times)

about 1/2 hour after every meal, and feeling sick in the bowel when and just

after I did.

I wondered if it was due to the gallstone problem I had. I checked on the

Net, and noticed there were two new

discoveries as to the cause of IBS. These discoveries are:

1) IBS is due to proliferation of " bad " bacteria that migrate from the large

bowel, where they usually live, into the small bowel

where they are less welcome.

2) IBS is often due to gallstone disease. This was postulated by a certain

Dr. Habba working in the US, therefore

IBS with a history of gallstone disease is now apparently being renamed as

" Habba's disease " .

Remembering that harmful bacteria, stones and whatever is trapped in the

gallbladder can perforate first the

gallbladder wall, and then migrate into the bowel, I wondered if - by a

logical combination of the above two

discoveries - the root cause of IBS might be due to migration of pathogens,

not secondarily from the large bowel,

but primarily from the gallbladder. I had thought of ordering a 100%

herbal combination over the Net " to improve bowel

function " . I was expecting the treatment to last for months. In the

meantime however, since I needed to try anything, I opted

to take some more oregano capsules which I had left over from last year when

I had serious gallbladder issues. I remembered

that oregano is an awesome herbal disinfectant, and also that it is

specifically for cleaning up the gallbladder. After taking only

3 capsules, I realized I had no more IBS issues and I am still free of it at

this time. I can only surmise that this herb was

able to neutralize the pathogens in the GB, allow the body to heal any

perforations they might have made in the GB wall,

and " plug the leak " . Thank God for herbs, and thank God for people like

Dave who know their value and sefllessly

share their knowledge, wisdom and intuition with those in need.

I hope this information will be useful to others in a similar mess.

Also, it is for sure that most people pass stones all the time without doing

anything. Stones are only congealed bile,

and if they can pass bile via the bile ducts, they can and surely do pass

stones too via the same route.

Max

----- Original Message -----

From: " Dave Shelden " <wholehealthawareness@...>

Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:29 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [WENDYgallstones] Re: New to Group

> I concur, you are not a dork. And even though it is hard to believe

> at times, neither am I. Yes, you can definitely pass gallstones without

> doing anything. In fact, I would expect that it is a common occurrence.

> The problem arises when you are not able to. 80% of all gallstones are

> silent; in other words there are 4 times as many people with gallstones

> that never feel any discomfort than there are like people here on the

> group who are suffering. You may be one of the lucky ones though in that

> you are now forced to address the issue. The other health problems

> associated with the improper bile flow never get handled if you do not

> know there is a problem. In this 80% I am sure that many people end up

> passing stones after eating a quantity of lipids all the time. It is the

> same as discharging bile, it has just coagulated and formed.

>

> Waiting and hoping for them to pass unassisted is sticking your head

> in the sand. Outside of divine intervention I would put your chances very

> low. Educate yourself on your predicament, make decisions that are best

> for you, and enjoy every moment (during if possible, as well as after).

> The benefits of addressing the problem head on are many times as great as

> they may appear on the surface. Always, in all ways, -Dave

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Sadie<mailto:tenncats@...>

> gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:13 AM

> Subject: Re: [WENDYgallstones] Re: New to Group

>

> Can people just get rid of a gallstone without doing anything? Not know

> it and not see it?

> Sorry, I know Im a dork, LOL

>

> you are not a dork.............I don't know these answers either. I

> don't want to do anything it I can get by with it...

>

> God Bless!!!

> Sadie

>

August 3, 2006

Hi max!

Long time. Thank you for your kind words. With the new format I cannot

insert to a previous message so I will respond to the post here kind of piece

meal.

I agree with both of the causes below as well as some others. Irritable

bowel syndrome is just that... a syndrome. Modern medicine doesn't know what it

is they just know what you told them when you came in. When enough people

express the same symptoms, they make up a new name and poof!... a new " disease "

is born. I think we way over simplify by figuring out the " one reason " . In

your case it was obviously pathogenetic and the oregano oil was a perfect

remedy. A lot cheaper, easier, safer, and less stress than upper GIs, lower

GIs, steroids etc. Congratulations. Always keep in mind that bacterias are

species specific and an " antibacterial " for one may have no effect on another.

If you had no changes at all it would not have meant that oregano oil doesn't

work or that it was not a bacterial cause, it might have been grapefruit seed

extract, or goldenseal, or guduchi, or quassia, or something else.

It is very very difficult for the bacteria and/or detritus to perforate the

gallbladder wall, however the connection to the bowel is direct. The only stop

gates are the sphincter at the gallbladder, and the illeoceccal valve between

the small and large intestine. Neither of these is foolproof, especially if not

functioning properly. I agree that you can continually reinfect the bowel from

a gallbladder infection.

For those of you following this, Max's story below is a prime example of

where natural treatment is the best first option. I bet he doesn't have more

than 20 bucks into the oregano oil and he was feeling better in a few hours.

-Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: max<mailto:max@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:41 AM

Subject: IBS

Hi Dave

I have had a health issue with overactive bowel (IBS) recently. It was very

distressing, wanting to defecate (several times)

about 1/2 hour after every meal, and feeling sick in the bowel when and just

after I did.

I wondered if it was due to the gallstone problem I had. I checked on the

Net, and noticed there were two new

discoveries as to the cause of IBS. These discoveries are:

1) IBS is due to proliferation of " bad " bacteria that migrate from the large

bowel, where they usually live, into the small bowel

where they are less welcome.

2) IBS is often due to gallstone disease. This was postulated by a certain

Dr. Habba working in the US, therefore

IBS with a history of gallstone disease is now apparently being renamed as

" Habba's disease " .

Remembering that harmful bacteria, stones and whatever is trapped in the

gallbladder can perforate first the

gallbladder wall, and then migrate into the bowel, I wondered if - by a

logical combination of the above two

discoveries - the root cause of IBS might be due to migration of pathogens,

not secondarily from the large bowel,

but primarily from the gallbladder. I had thought of ordering a 100%

herbal combination over the Net " to improve bowel

function " . I was expecting the treatment to last for months. In the

meantime however, since I needed to try anything, I opted

to take some more oregano capsules which I had left over from last year when

I had serious gallbladder issues. I remembered

that oregano is an awesome herbal disinfectant, and also that it is

specifically for cleaning up the gallbladder. After taking only

3 capsules, I realized I had no more IBS issues and I am still free of it at

this time. I can only surmise that this herb was

able to neutralize the pathogens in the GB, allow the body to heal any

perforations they might have made in the GB wall,

and " plug the leak " . Thank God for herbs, and thank God for people like

Dave who know their value and sefllessly

share their knowledge, wisdom and intuition with those in need.

I hope this information will be useful to others in a similar mess.

Also, it is for sure that most people pass stones all the time without doing

anything. Stones are only congealed bile,

and if they can pass bile via the bile ducts, they can and surely do pass

stones too via the same route.

Max

----- Original Message -----

From: " Dave Shelden "

<wholehealthawareness@...<mailto:wholehealthawareness@...>>