Relationship between iodine and the adrenals

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I recently had the saliva cortisol test done and instead of cortisol

being high in the morning and going lower through the day mine is low

in the morning and high at night. My naturopath who does not believe

in high dose iodine feels it could be because I take 3 iodoral a day

that this has happened. I dont personally feel that is correct and I

have had a lot of benefit from the iodine which I have been taking for

3 months especially with sleeping. The fact that iodine makes me and

other persons sleep seems to be that it conquers the high cortisol

which itself prevents sleep as it should be low at night.

Does anyone know anything about this or could direct me to a website?

Thanks

Toni

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It's common for people with poor adrenal function to have higher cortisol

levels in the evening. Their body struggles all day to make cortisol and

they are finally able to accumulate it in the later part of the day, when

there is less demand.

Did you have any cortisol tests done before you started on Iodoral? Is your

cortisol level abnormally high or low at any part of the day?

I don't know why your doctor thinks Iodoral would make your cortisol go up

higher at night rather than higher in the morning. I think he's guessing

because he doesn't know how else to explain it. I hope someone else can

answer your question about iodine's impact on cortisol.

Lynn

> I recently had the saliva cortisol test done and instead of cortisol

> being high in the morning and going lower through the day mine is low

> in the morning and high at night. My naturopath who does not believe

> in high dose iodine feels it could be because I take 3 iodoral a day

> that this has happened. I dont personally feel that is correct and I

> have had a lot of benefit from the iodine which I have been taking for

> 3 months especially with sleeping. The fact that iodine makes me and

> other persons sleep seems to be that it conquers the high cortisol

> which itself prevents sleep as it should be low at night.

> Does anyone know anything about this or could direct me to a website?

> Thanks

> Toni

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this is a typical burnout pattern. Adrenals spend all day trying to produce some hormone and finally have a hormone dump at night. Cortisol helps me sleep, I take 5mg at bedtime but I think iodine helps with sleep too. I don't think your ND has it right. you might find some info at http://www.drlam.com

Gracia

I recently had the saliva cortisol test done and instead of cortisol being high in the morning and going lower through the day mine is low in the morning and high at night. My naturopath who does not believe in high dose iodine feels it could be because I take 3 iodoral a day that this has happened. I dont personally feel that is correct and I have had a lot of benefit from the iodine which I have been taking for 3 months especially with sleeping. The fact that iodine makes me and other persons sleep seems to be that it conquers the high cortisol which itself prevents sleep as it should be low at night.Does anyone know anything about this or could direct me to a website?ThanksToni

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[Guest guest]

>From: " ilt404 " <ilt404@...>

>The fact that iodine makes me and

>other persons sleep seems to be that it conquers the high cortisol

>which itself prevents sleep as it should be low at night.

>Does anyone know anything about this or could direct me to a website?

>Thanks

How about a 1932 article?

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020914/timeline.asp

IODINE COMPOUNDS CONTROL SLEEP AND HIBERNATION

Experiments showing that iodine-containing compounds probably control sleep

in man and hibernation in other animals were reported by Dr. G.S. to

the British Association for the Advancement of Science.

Dr. experimented with hearts taken from frogs in winter and in

summer. He found that thyroxin, which is the iodine-containing secretion of

the thyroid gland, produced in the heart of the winter frog a curve of

temperature and pulse rate typical of the heart of the summer frog. Other

glandular substances did not have this effect. He concluded that the amount

of thyroxin in the circulating blood controlled the hibernation of frogs and

similar animals. Other experiments suggested that a similar rhythm in the

amount or activity of iodine compounds in the circulation plays a part in

the production of man's daily sleep.

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What if cortisol is already very low? Do you think iodine could hinder adrenal

therapy or weak adrenals?

Amy

Skipper Beers wrote:

>From: "ilt404" <ilt404 .au>

>The fact that iodine makes me and

>other persons sleep seems to be that it conquers the high cortisol

>which itself prevents sleep as it should be low at night.

>Does anyone know anything about this or could direct me to a website?

>Thanks

How about a 1932 article?

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020914/timeline.asp

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I'm not sure this is true. My cortisol was high and I could not take

Iodoral at all. Made me terribly hyper. Now that my cortisol is

normalizing, I take 50mg/day with no problems. ...jingles

> Skipper Beers wrote:

>

> > >From: " ilt404 " <ilt404@... <mailto:ilt404%40.au>>

> >

> > >The fact that iodine makes me and

> > >other persons sleep seems to be that it conquers the high

cortisol

> > >which itself prevents sleep as it should be low at night.

> > >Does anyone know anything about this or could direct me to a

website?

> > >Thanks

> >

> > How about a 1932 article?

> >

> > http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020914/timeline.asp

> > <http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020914/timeline.asp>

> >

>

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Posted by: "groupiestuff" groupiestuff@... groupiestuff

Mon Dec 4, 2006 5:01 am (PST)

I'm not sure this is true. My cortisol was high and I could not take Iodoral at all. Made me terribly hyper. Now that my cortisol is normalizing, I take 50mg/day with no problems. ...jingles>

Hi Jingles,

I find that really interesting....I used to not be able to tolerate iodine in any form, including Iodoral. Lately I've been supplementing hydrocortisone...I started Cortef in mid-October and by mid-November when I tried Iodoral again, I seem to be having no problems tolerating it.

We here have been struggling to understand what other nutrients need to be in place with iodine, i.e. selenium, magnesium, vit C--maybe we have to add the adrenals need to be at least somewhat healthy too before starting (not too high, not too low). I also believe that Iodoral helps the adrenals normalize--it seems to be so in my case of low adrenals, so I know it's not simple.

Any thoughts, anyone?

Hmmmm,

Dahlia

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>From: Apricot85 <apricot85@...>

>What if cortisol is already very low? Do you think iodine could hinder

>adrenal therapy or weak adrenals? Amy

My adrenals are low, and I think it helps a lot.

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Well, when I started my regimen, I initially just took Armour. After reading more on the list I dropped the Armour and started Iodoral and SP dessicated adrenals. I later added Isocort and now am not using the SP product. I re-introduced Armour about two weeks after the Isocort and am now up to 2.5 grains and will raise to three next week. I have had no ill effects from either the Isocort or the Iodoral. If I can find a doc that will work with me I may change to HC (Cortef), but if not I will stay the course on Isocort (8 per day in divided doses - 4 early a.m., 2 four hours later, then 2 again 4 hours later). I haven't had any of the problems I have read about on the list - maybe it was needed so bad that it was soaked right up! C. in bbbrrrrrrrr cold and snowy Chicago, IL USA

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Thanks. My adrenals are very weak ... so I won't bark at that tree for a

reason that I react to iodine as I do. Except that I'm not sure if my problem

is adrenals or pit/hypothalamus. Another idea is that I take a medication

for the fibro pain... and perhaps it interferes with iodine..

Amy

Skipper Beers wrote:

>From: Apricot85 <apricot85rcn>

>What if cortisol is already very low? Do you think iodine could hinder

>adrenal therapy or weak adrenals? Amy

My adrenals are low, and I think it helps a lot.

Skipper

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>From: Apricot85 <apricot85@...>

>Thanks. My adrenals are very weak

Are they being treated? If not, this can cause a lot of problems.

.... so I won't bark at that tree

>for a reason that I react to iodine as I do. Except that I'm not sure if

>my problem is adrenals or pit/hypothalamus.

Does that mean your cortisol has been tested, you've had the ACTH stim test,

and was your ACTH level (adrenal equivalent of TSH.) tested?

Another idea is

>that I take a medication for the fibro pain... and perhaps it interferes

>with iodine.. Amy

What medication?

Skipper

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If you have fibro then you need iodine/cortisol/thyroid meds, not pain medication.

Gracia

Thanks. My adrenals are very weak ... so I won't bark at that tree for a reason that I react to iodine as I do. Except that I'm not sure if my problem is adrenals or pit/hypothalamus. Another idea is that I take a medication for the fibro pain... and perhaps it interferes with iodine.. AmySkipper Beers wrote:

>From: Apricot85 <apricot85rcn>>What if cortisol is already very low? Do you think iodine could hinder >adrenal therapy or weak adrenals? AmyMy adrenals are low, and I think it helps a lot.Skipper

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[Guest guest]

I am taking 20mg of HC/Cortef and am on 3rd month (based on canaryclub saliva

test showing Stage 7 adrenal fatigue). I am at 2.5 grains Armour. I have

not had the ACTH test ... I asked the doctor about it before I began HC ,

he gave me a blank look & did not respond... perhaps he does not know

about it. Since I have not had the ACTH test, I don't know whether the

problem is adrenals or if I should look further. Possibly, there is polyglandular

insufficiency b/c my TSH was never high (despite frees below the normal

range) and parathyroid test was never elevated despite low vitamin D hydroxy

test level (am working on that too).

I struggle to stay awake without caffeine & stimulants. l-tyrosine &

trace mineral drops seem to help. The medication is Humira ... approved

for Rhumatoid Arthritis.. however, pain was not really in my joints, it was

widespread in my limbs. It works by suppressing the immune system.

Amy

Skipper Beers wrote:

From: Apricot85 <apricot85@...>

Thanks. My adrenals are very weak

Are they being treated? If not, this can cause a lot of problems.

.... so I won't bark at that tree

for a reason that I react to iodine as I do. Except that I'm not sure if my problem is adrenals or pit/hypothalamus.

Does that mean your cortisol has been tested, you've had the ACTH stim test, and was your ACTH level (adrenal equivalent of TSH.) tested?

Another idea is

that I take a medication for the fibro pain... and perhaps it interferes with iodine.. Amy

What medication?

Skipper