Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 >From: " cbwillis9 " <cbwillis9@...> > >> Actually, the Atkins Diet and whether or not one > > quickly goes into ketosis > > without eating carbs it possibly a good test for > > adrenal function. > > > > Skipper > >How does one know if they re in ketosis? Urine test with ketostix. Look like pH strips. and what is ketosis >used for? Ketones are produced when fat is used for energy instead of carbs. They are produced when carbs or calories are limited. I think Atkins induction diet was no more than 20 carbs a day, and you were supposed to eat a daily salad. Some people can eat more and still be in ketosis, and it's how you know whether you're burning the fat. It is sometimes confused with the diabetic state of ketoacidosis, which is dangerous. >caveats? > >I remember going on a low carb diet thru much of high school, >carbs between 25-60 grams per day, closer to 60 in my case. >I did lose weight and kept it off for decades, but doubt I was >in ketosis. May have depended on the state of your adrenals. The higher the cortisol, the more likely to be in ketosis. The medical establishment attacked Dr. Atkins and acted like his diet was something new. But, a Banting wrote a book about the low carb type of diet in the 1800s, in the 1960s my brother knew to lose weight one cut out sugar and starch, which is really the ATkin's concept. It was not new information, and doctors used to tell people to lose weight, avoid sugar and starch. He just stated it in book form. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve & locale=en-US\ & source=hmtagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 >From: " cbwillis9 " <cbwillis9@...> > >How does one know if they re in ketosis? and what is ketosis >used for? caveats? > >I remember going on a low carb diet thru much of high school, >carbs between 25-60 grams per day, closer to 60 in my case. >I did lose weight and kept it off for decades, but doubt I was >in ketosis. Oh, when I saw the " OT " designation, I remembered Dr. Derry said something that implied that fat intake would deplete iodine. Something about iodine lost having something to do with measuring fat solubility, but I don't remember exactly how that was phrased. So, on a low carb diet it's probably important to be sure to take adequate iodine. Barne's also mentioned the low carb diet as best for hypos, but that they needed to increase their ARmour dosage while on it. I guess that could have been the same cause, the fat in the diet reducing iodine, or simply with creating too much rT3 as any diet will do. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more…then map the best route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 My doctor physically diagnoses low thyroid and believes in Armour thyroid and a modified Atkins diet to lose weight. He dows not address idonine at all. Do you think it may be necessary to supplement as well? conrad On 10/20/06, Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote: >From: " cbwillis9 " <cbwillis9@...> >>How does one know if they re in ketosis? and what is ketosis>used for? caveats?>>I remember going on a low carb diet thru much of high school,>carbs between 25-60 grams per day, closer to 60 in my case. >I did lose weight and kept it off for decades, but doubt I was>in ketosis.Oh, when I saw the " OT " designation, I remembered Dr. Derry said somethingthat implied that fat intake would deplete iodine. Something about iodine lost having something to do with measuring fat solubility, but I don'tremember exactly how that was phrased.So, on a low carb diet it's probably important to be sure to take adequateiodine.Barne's also mentioned the low carb diet as best for hypos, but that they needed to increase their ARmour dosage while on it. I guess that could havebeen the same cause, the fat in the diet reducing iodine, or simply withcreating too much rT3 as any diet will do.Skipper _________________________________________________________________Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more…then map the bestroute! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001 Iodine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 When you are in ketosis (and its not a natural state) you will feel extremely tired..especially after exertion, you will be more thirsty than ususal and your breath and sweat smell different. Some describe it as a sweet smell, but not really...its just different..you will know. This happens when your liver has used up its glycogen stores, and your body is looking for different sources of fuel. Restricting carbs deprives your cells of water, and without adequate water you liver cannot restore its glycogen levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Atkins recommends use of a ketostik to determine if and to what extent one is in ketosis. The more the color approaches purple, the deeper one is in ketosis. You can get them at any drugstore. conrad On 10/22/06, Aprilcupcake@... <Aprilcupcake@...> wrote: When you are in ketosis (and its not a natural state) you will feel extremely tired..especially after exertion, you will be more thirsty than ususal and your breath and sweat smell different. Some describe it as a sweet smell, but not really...its just different..you will know. This happens when your liver has used up its glycogen stores, and your body is looking for different sources of fuel. Restricting carbs deprives your cells of water, and without adequate water you liver cannot restore its glycogen levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Ketosis is a natural state, although maybe not natural for the typical North American... It probably saves people when they are starving by forcing the body into a state where they can use fat stores. Also, if you look at some traditional diets -- especially in the far north -- ketosis is likely a feature of the yearly cycle. If you look at the traditional Inuit ( " Eskimo " ) diet, there will be parts of the year when carbohydrates are severely limited. Ketosis is then " natural " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Hi , Ketosis is not bad and I have tried it with Atkins diet. it is a much higher energy state but also requires much more oxygen. The extra oxygen is real important to keep it healthy for the body. So one should combine aerobic exercise with the ketosis to benefit from it. Interesting note. there are no essential carbs, only essential aminos acids nad fats. the body can make all the carbs it needs out of protein and/or fat. Take care, V Energize With Light http://www.theledman.net/ > Ketosis is a natural state, although maybe not natural for the typical > North American... It probably saves people when they are starving by > forcing the body into a state where they can use fat stores. Also, if > you look at some traditional diets -- especially in the far north -- > ketosis is likely a feature of the yearly cycle. If you look at the > traditional Inuit ( " Eskimo " ) diet, there will be parts of the year > when carbohydrates are severely limited. Ketosis is then " natural " . > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 >From: V <vzon17@...> >Hi , > > Ketosis is not bad and I have tried it with Atkins diet. it is a much >higher energy state but also requires much more oxygen. The extra oxygen is >real important to keep it healthy for the body. So one should combine >aerobic exercise with the ketosis to benefit from it. > >Interesting note. there are no essential carbs, only essential aminos acids >nad fats. the body can make all the carbs it needs out of protein and/or >fat. > Yes, fasting glucose is usually just as high whether one ingests carbs or is on the Atkins Diet. That's most enlightening. Hypothyroidism on the other hand, frequently will cause low fasting glucose levels. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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