RE: Metabolic types was: Protein powders

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>From: " Lynn McGaha " <lmcgaha@...>

>

>, I searched on Weston A. Price for " The Right Type Hype " and

>didn't find such an article. Could you provide the exact link?

Here's one -

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/right_price.html

An egregious example of getting Price wrong can be found in The Metabolic

Typing Diet by Wolcott and Trish Fahey.19

The fact is that Weston Price did not express particular interest in

biochemical individuality; rather, he consistently stressed the fact that,

in spite of the differences in actual foods eaten by primitive peoples, the

intake of nutrients was remarkably similar, from northern climates to the

tropics.

Note how the observed differences in foods eaten has morphed into

“distinctly different kinds of dietary requirements,” which is a complete

contradiction of Price’s message.

**************************************************

However, the Price (Weston A Price also) - Pottenger Foundation, takes a

less dim view of the theory, as it's been around a while, as all diets have.

" Carb type eaters " are slow oxidizers -

http://www.price-pottenger.org/Articles/MetabolicTyping.html

Metabolic Typing: Slow-Oxidizers, Fast-Oxidizers

While Dr. was the first to admit that his system was not a panacea,

it is useful for identifying carbohydrate processing problems. And it gives

useful dietary and supplement guidelines for managing these problems.

************************************

Even the alternative doctors don't always like each other's theories. I've

found the theories of 's Thyroid Syndrome useful for one family

member, but Dr. Durrant-Peatfield wasn't impressed with his theories, and

Drs. C. Lowe and Derry were not impressed with the effectiveness of

timed release T3 (though, I don't know if they tried it as he recommended

treatment.)

It's the same with diet, the gurus think they know best and will rarely

recommend the other's choices.

I find the metabolic type diet interesting in that my wife and I gravitate

naturally toward some of the choices of the category we fall under. (I've

thought it likely the diet would work for her, but she's allergic to almost

every plant food it seems.)

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I somehow don't think the traditional cultures Price spent all his time

researching, had any idea of metabolic typing. I do think that our bodies

are all different but so much does have to do with our heritage, be it

Ialian, Irish, etc. But that also leads to further problems because we are

all so inter mixed any more. So, I personally like to follow the old

traditional foods because I personally believe that is what our bodies can

handle. Not that I never indulge in the SAD diet once in awhile. It would

be pretty hard to isolate yourself to that extreme.

Allyn

RE: Metabolic types was: Protein powders

>From: " Lynn McGaha " <lmcgaha@...>

>

>, I searched on Weston A. Price for " The Right Type Hype " and

>didn't find such an article. Could you provide the exact link?

Here's one -

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/right_price.html

An egregious example of getting Price wrong can be found in The Metabolic

Typing Diet by Wolcott and Trish Fahey.19

The fact is that Weston Price did not express particular interest in

biochemical individuality; rather, he consistently stressed the fact that,

in spite of the differences in actual foods eaten by primitive peoples, the

intake of nutrients was remarkably similar, from northern climates to the

tropics.

Note how the observed differences in foods eaten has morphed into

" distinctly different kinds of dietary requirements, " which is a complete

contradiction of Price's message.

**************************************************

However, the Price (Weston A Price also) - Pottenger Foundation, takes a

less dim view of the theory, as it's been around a while, as all diets have.

" Carb type eaters " are slow oxidizers -

http://www.price-pottenger.org/Articles/MetabolicTyping.html

Metabolic Typing: Slow-Oxidizers, Fast-Oxidizers

While Dr. was the first to admit that his system was not a panacea,

it is useful for identifying carbohydrate processing problems. And it gives

useful dietary and supplement guidelines for managing these problems.

************************************

Even the alternative doctors don't always like each other's theories. I've

found the theories of 's Thyroid Syndrome useful for one family

member, but Dr. Durrant-Peatfield wasn't impressed with his theories, and

Drs. C. Lowe and Derry were not impressed with the effectiveness of

timed release T3 (though, I don't know if they tried it as he recommended

treatment.)

It's the same with diet, the gurus think they know best and will rarely

recommend the other's choices.

I find the metabolic type diet interesting in that my wife and I gravitate

naturally toward some of the choices of the category we fall under. (I've

thought it likely the diet would work for her, but she's allergic to almost

every plant food it seems.)

Skipper

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Skipper

This article below addressed a lot of nutritional issues and positions that

are in vogue right now, and I appreciate your posting the link. I accept

that the Weston A. Price Foundation does not support metabolic typing. I

find it interesting that Dr. Mercola, who seems to be a strong advocate of

metabolic typing, is on the honorary board of the WAPF.

> http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/right_price.html

> An egregious example of getting Price wrong can be found in The Metabolic

> Typing Diet by Wolcott and Trish Fahey.19

> Even the alternative doctors don't always like each other's theories.

I've

> found the theories of 's Thyroid Syndrome useful for one family

> member, but Dr. Durrant-Peatfield wasn't impressed with his theories, and

> Drs. C. Lowe and Derry were not impressed with the effectiveness of

> timed release T3 (though, I don't know if they tried it as he recommended

> treatment.)

of this group has posted on the NTH board about her recent

poor experience with timed release T3, and many members of NTH have had a

failed experience with 's Syndrome. Sometimes experience speaks

louder than theory.

> It's the same with diet, the gurus think they know best and will rarely

> recommend the other's choices.

It is a vexation to find so much conflicting opinion about nutrition and

diet, even among just the alternative medicine community. I trust the WAPF

recommendations because they're based on epidemiological success, not just

theory.

Lynn M.

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I suspect that the cultures Price studied were pretty homogenous, maybe that

makes a difference.

What would Price say about iodine?

Lynn

> I somehow don't think the traditional cultures Price spent all his time

> researching, had any idea of metabolic typing. I do think that our bodies

> are all different but so much does have to do with our heritage, be it

> Ialian, Irish, etc. But that also leads to further problems because we are

> all so inter mixed any more. So, I personally like to follow the old

> traditional foods because I personally believe that is what our bodies can

> handle. Not that I never indulge in the SAD diet once in awhile. It

would

> be pretty hard to isolate yourself to that extreme.

> Allyn

[Guest guest]

A number of the natives that Price studied went through considerable

trouble to get sea food particularly for their pregnant and lactating

women. It is not a huge leap to think that it might be for the iodine

content. It would be interesting to see if those people lived in areas

that had low iodine in the soil.

Irene

At 09:14 PM 7/5/2006, you wrote:

I suspect that the cultures

Price studied were pretty homogenous, maybe that

makes a difference.

What would Price say about iodine?

Lynn

> I somehow don't think the traditional cultures Price spent all his

time

> researching, had any idea of metabolic typing. I do think that our

bodies

> are all different but so much does have to do with our heritage, be

it

> Ialian, Irish, etc. But that also leads to further problems because

we are

> all so inter mixed any more. So, I personally like to follow the

old

> traditional foods because I personally believe that is what our

bodies can

> handle. Not that I never indulge in the SAD diet once in awhile.

It

would

> be pretty hard to isolate yourself to that extreme.

> Allyn

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I don’t know what Price would say

but I know for a fact Sally Fallon was taking iodine because

she found she was overdosing on it and cut it out of her diet. This I got from an email to my chapter leader

here in Florida

who passed it on because we had been discussing the benefits of iodine on our

local group. I think though because she

felt she was getting too much that a lot of people stopped considering it. But I feel the fact that she was taking it

shows that she feels it is necessary in our diet and we are not getting enough.

Allyn

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types was: Protein powders

I suspect that the cultures Price studied were pretty

homogenous, maybe that

makes a difference.

What would Price say about iodine?

Lynn

> I somehow don't think the traditional cultures Price spent all his time

> researching, had any idea of metabolic typing. I do think that our bodies

> are all different but so much does have to do with our heritage, be it

> Ialian, Irish, etc. But that also leads to further problems because we are

> all so inter mixed any more. So, I personally like to follow the old

> traditional foods because I personally believe that is what our bodies can

> handle. Not that I never indulge in the SAD diet once in awhile. It

would

> be pretty hard to isolate yourself to that extreme.

> Allyn

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Goes to show that they still have their own ways of doing things. I have

Mercola's book and I have checked out my own Metabolic typing and it does

not seem too far off as it tells me to stay away from carbs. The real

metabolic typing told me I could only eat bison and wild game. I do eat

bison but it is not practical for me to eat wild game all the time.

I think a lot of it is again common sense. I know from past experience that

I don't do well eating carbs. In contrast when reviewing the blood type

book it says I am suppose to eat high carbs. Seeing as I have a pretty bad

weight problem when I eat carbs I really put on the pounds. I also know

that the traditional cultures never ate a whole lot of carbs and quite a few

of them hardly ate veggies and fruits. The Inuit's ate 80% fat and hardly

ever ate any veggies. It is very interesting. But they were really healthy

with no cancer or heart disease, cavities, etc.

Allyn

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Re: Metabolic types was: Protein powders

Skipper

This article below addressed a lot of nutritional issues and positions that

are in vogue right now, and I appreciate your posting the link. I accept

that the Weston A. Price Foundation does not support metabolic typing. I

find it interesting that Dr. Mercola, who seems to be a strong advocate of

metabolic typing, is on the honorary board of the WAPF.

> http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/right_price.html

> An egregious example of getting Price wrong can be found in The Metabolic

> Typing Diet by Wolcott and Trish Fahey.19

> Even the alternative doctors don't always like each other's theories.

I've

> found the theories of 's Thyroid Syndrome useful for one family

> member, but Dr. Durrant-Peatfield wasn't impressed with his theories, and

> Drs. C. Lowe and Derry were not impressed with the effectiveness of

> timed release T3 (though, I don't know if they tried it as he recommended

> treatment.)

of this group has posted on the NTH board about her recent

poor experience with timed release T3, and many members of NTH have had a

failed experience with 's Syndrome. Sometimes experience speaks

louder than theory.

> It's the same with diet, the gurus think they know best and will rarely

> recommend the other's choices.

It is a vexation to find so much conflicting opinion about nutrition and

diet, even among just the alternative medicine community. I trust the WAPF

recommendations because they're based on epidemiological success, not just

theory.

Lynn M.

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It must have been on the tapes from the 2004 Conference. I will listen

again and get the name of the person who wrote it and research. Or

maybe I will email Sally and ask her. Get back to you.

On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Lynn McGaha wrote:

> , I searched on Weston A. Price for " The Right Type Hype " and

> didn't find such an article. Could you provide the exact link?

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Dr. Mercola says a lot of things I find amazing. Several people at the

conference said things I know Sally doesn't agree with and she chimed

in a couple of times but it's hard to get everyone in a group to agree

or be informed exactly. I think she chooses people who have such

excellent contributions that she lets some of it go. I sound like I

think Sally is a goddess and maybe I do but it is easier to not get off

track if I stick to her way of thinking. Her tapes were really helpful

to me.

On Jul 5, 2006, at 9:11 PM, Lynn McGaha wrote:

> I

> find it interesting that Dr. Mercola, who seems to be a strong

> advocate of

> metabolic typing, is on the honorary board of the WAPF.

>

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>From: " Lynn McGaha " <lmcgaha@...>

>

>This article below addressed a lot of nutritional issues and positions that

>are in vogue right now, and I appreciate your posting the link. I accept

>that the Weston A. Price Foundation does not support metabolic typing. I

>find it interesting that Dr. Mercola, who seems to be a strong advocate of

>metabolic typing, is on the honorary board of the WAPF.

Mercola and Weston Price Foundation are only a little contradictory. WAPF

describes a good way of eating, the Metabolic Type explains why certain

people do better on particular foods.

> of this group has posted on the NTH board about her recent

>poor experience with timed release T3, and many members of NTH have had a

>failed experience with 's Syndrome. Sometimes experience speaks

>louder than theory.

There can be a number of factors -

Bad doctor

Not understanding 's Syndrome

Not reading 's doctor manual

Bad pharamacy

Bad pharmacist

Inconsistent batches of T3.

Wrong time release component in T3.

If you are familiar with 's theory, you take 12 hour timed releast T3

exactly 12 hours apart. You start at 7.5 mcg every 12 hours, and you keep

increasing until your body temperature gets up to 98.6. The goal is to

stabilize you at this body temp, because everyone knows low thyroid causes

low body temp.

says a lot of patients will be able to wean themself off T3, and they

won't have to take any thyroid medication.

That being said, my wife stayed on a large dose of timed release T3, because

that seems to be her best treatment. My thyroid doc calls it " 's

Syndrome " but I'm thinking the treatment is more like that of Dr. C.

Lowe who wrote " The Metabolic Treatment of Fibromyalgia. " He found many

people with fibro get better when they are on large doses of T3 only. He

will give up to 175 mcg of T3 (once daily only) and the patients get much

better.

Anyway, on 's website he talks about the importance of the pharmacy.

Not to mention if you don't tell them to do otherwise, the pharmacy is going

to mix up your pills with all kinds of dyes, which aren't going to be

particularly good for you considering the quantity of pills you have to

take.

Mixing the pills isn't as simple as it sounds, as the pharmacist actually

has to know what he's doing.

So maybe had troubles because of the things I mentioned. Also, the

treatment isn't the best one for everybody.

My wife is the racial mix in which it's most common according to

(American Indian / Irish), and she had almost every symptom that

listed for the condition back in 1997. A rather long list, and there were

very few problems she didn't have. Now she's much better.

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Sally Fallon responded to my email about the article. Here's the link

on Weston A. Price for the article on Metabolic Typing.

http://www.westonaprice.org/bookreviews/eat_right.html

>> From: " Lynn McGaha " <lmcgaha@...>

>

>>

>> , I searched on Weston A. Price for " The Right Type Hype " and

>> didn't find such an article. Could you provide the exact link?

>

> Here's one -

>

> http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/right_price.html

> An egregious example of getting Price wrong can be found in The

> Metabolic

> Typing Diet by Wolcott and Trish Fahey.19

>

> The fact is that Weston Price did not express particular interest in

> biochemical individuality; rather, he consistently stressed the fact

> that,

> in spite of the differences in actual foods eaten by primitive

> peoples, the

> intake of nutrients was remarkably similar, from northern climates to

> the

> tropics.

>

> Note how the observed differences in foods eaten has morphed into

> “distinctly different kinds of dietary requirements,” which is a

> complete

> contradiction of Price’s message.

> **************************************************

>

> However, the Price (Weston A Price also) - Pottenger Foundation, takes

> a

> less dim view of the theory, as it's been around a while, as all diets

> have.

> " Carb type eaters " are slow oxidizers -

>

>

> http://www.price-pottenger.org/Articles/MetabolicTyping.html

> Metabolic Typing: Slow-Oxidizers, Fast-Oxidizers

>

> While Dr. was the first to admit that his system was not a

> panacea,

> it is useful for identifying carbohydrate processing problems. And it

> gives

> useful dietary and supplement guidelines for managing these problems.

> ************************************

>

> Even the alternative doctors don't always like each other's theories.

> I've

> found the theories of 's Thyroid Syndrome useful for one family

> member, but Dr. Durrant-Peatfield wasn't impressed with his theories,

> and

> Drs. C. Lowe and Derry were not impressed with the effectiveness

> of

> timed release T3 (though, I don't know if they tried it as he

> recommended

> treatment.)

>

> It's the same with diet, the gurus think they know best and will rarely

> recommend the other's choices.

>

> I find the metabolic type diet interesting in that my wife and I

> gravitate

> naturally toward some of the choices of the category we fall under.

> (I've

> thought it likely the diet would work for her, but she's allergic to

> almost

> every plant food it seems.)

>

> Skipper

>

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