Re: Puppy's UT-would lugol's help?

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I don't have pets, but all of my family members have dogs galore. I know their

vets are often recommending that they give their dogs children's cold/allergy

medicine (even children's benedryl for a dauchund's skin allergies to

grass)--just scaled to the dog's weight. Since 12 mg. is the recommended dose

of Iodoine for people, according to several protocols I've read, I would

calculate that is for a person weighing, maybe 150 pounds (sort of an average).

You might try scaling that amount back according to the weight of the dog.

Just my 2 cents.

Ann

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From: " Shelli " <merk4@...>

> I posted this question a while back but got no responses so I'm trying again.

My

> 5-1/2 month old puppy (6 pounds) has a UTI that antibiotics are not helping.

> She's been on 4 or 5 different ones. They did a bladder x-ray and found no

> abnormalities. She is being spayed on Jan. 8th and the vet will look at her

> bladder then. I'm wondering if iodine might help her. I saw where someone said

> it cured their bladder infection when, I think, antibiotics didn't. If it

might

> help, how much should I give her? I did give her one drop of Lugol's yesterday

> and one today but I don't know if that is enough, too much, or too little. Any

> input would be appreciated. I'm about at my wit's end with this.

> Thanks.

> Shelli

>

I posted this question a while back but got no responses so I'm trying again. My 5-1/2 month old puppy (6 pounds) has a UTI that antibiotics are not helping. She's been on 4 or 5 different ones. They did a bladder x-ray and found no abnormalities. She is being spayed on Jan. 8th and the vet will look at her bladder then. I'm wondering if iodine might help her. I saw where someone said it cured their bladder infection when, I think, antibiotics didn't. If it might help, how much should I give her? I did give her one drop of Lugol's yesterday and one today but I don't know if that is enough, too much, or too little. Any input would be appreciated. I'm about at my wit's end with this.

Thanks.

Shelli

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This describes treating a sick cat with Lugol's iodine.

" If you are feeding by pipette, put one drop of Lugol's iodine into 1/2 cup of

cat's water. Keep this in a separate plastic bag. Do not let cat smell the

Lugol's water or she will suspect you of tampering. Give one dropper-full of

the Lugol's water 4 times a day. Use a different dropper for the plain

non-Lugol's water. If your can't get any Lugol's water down her, give only the

pure water. We will sneak the Lugol's into her food later. The purpose is to

kill salmonella bacteria in her body. "

http://www..net/en/_protocol/cancer/pet_cancer_program.php

--- Shelli <merk4@...> wrote:

> I posted this question a while back but got no responses so I'm trying again.

> My 5-1/2 month old puppy (6 pounds) has a UTI that antibiotics are not

> helping. She's been on 4 or 5 different ones. They did a bladder x-ray and

> found no abnormalities. She is being spayed on Jan. 8th and the vet will look

> at her bladder then. I'm wondering if iodine might help her. I saw where

> someone said it cured their bladder infection when, I think, antibiotics

> didn't. If it might help, how much should I give her? I did give her one drop

> of Lugol's yesterday and one today but I don't know if that is enough, too

> much, or too little. Any input would be appreciated. I'm about at my wit's

> end with this.

> Thanks.

> Shelli

>

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I suspect that you did not get an answer because no one had one. I don't

either but I googled on dogs and iodine and got lots of hits. Here are a

few.

Irene

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2 & cat=1662 & articleid=674

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/iodine.html

http://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/thyro-pet-hypothyroid-holistic-treatment.html?ovchn=GGL & ovcpn=Google+PetAlive & ovcrn=iodine+dogs & ovtac=PPC & gclid=CKiF486Fu4kCFQn7Ygodw01edQ

At 11:52 AM 12/30/2006, you wrote:

I

posted this question a while back but got no responses so I'm trying

again. My 5-1/2 month old puppy (6 pounds) has a UTI that antibiotics are

not helping. She's been on 4 or 5 different ones. They did a bladder

x-ray and found no abnormalities. She is being spayed on Jan. 8th and the

vet will look at her bladder then. I'm wondering if iodine might help

her. I saw where someone said it cured their bladder infection when, I

think, antibiotics didn't. If it might help, how much should I give her?

I did give her one drop of Lugol's yesterday and one today but I don't

know if that is enough, too much, or too little. Any input would be

appreciated. I'm about at my wit's end with this.

Thanks.

Shelli

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I'm not sure how I would scale it down for her weight since she is so small. I have to give it to her on her food, as she doesn't drink a reliable amount of water each day. The food she is eating has a high water content. It's a special food for urine crystals. I'm guessing a drop a day then might be too much then for a 6-pound dog?

Thanks.

Shelli

Re: Puppy's UT-would lugol's help?

I don't have pets, but all of my family members have dogs galore. I know their vets are often recommending that they give their dogs children's cold/allergy medicine (even children's benedryl for a dauchund's skin allergies to grass)--just scaled to the dog's weight. Since 12 mg. is the recommended dose of Iodoine for people, according to several protocols I've read, I would calculate that is for a person weighing, maybe 150 pounds (sort of an average). You might try scaling that amount back according to the weight of the dog.Just my 2 cents.Ann-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Shelli" <merk4insightbb>> I posted this question a while back but got no responses so I'm trying again. My > 5-1/2 month old puppy (6 pounds) has a UTI that antibiotics are not helping. > She's been on 4 or 5 different ones. They did a bladder x-ray and found no > abnormalities. She is being spayed on Jan. 8th and the vet will look at her > bladder then. I'm wondering if iodine might help her. I saw where someone said > it cured their bladder infection when, I think, antibiotics didn't. If it might > help, how much should I give her? I did give her one drop of Lugol's yesterday > and one today but I don't know if that is enough, too much, or too little. Any > input would be appreciated. I'm about at my wit's end with this.> Thanks.> Shelli>

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Thanks . I see on the website you gave you can give cats at least 1 drop per day as a supplement as part of cancer treatment so maybe the one drop a day would be ok for my puppy. It also says 1/2 a drop 6 times a day for Salmonella treatment.

Shelli

Re: Puppy's UT-would lugol's help?

This describes treating a sick cat with Lugol's iodine."If you are feeding by pipette, put one drop of Lugol's iodine into 1/2 cup ofcat's water. Keep this in a separate plastic bag. Do not let cat smell theLugol's water or she will suspect you of tampering. Give one dropper-full ofthe Lugol's water 4 times a day. Use a different dropper for the plainnon-Lugol's water. If your can't get any Lugol's water down her, give only thepure water. We will sneak the Lugol's into her food later. The purpose is tokill salmonella bacteria in her body."http://www..net/en/_protocol/cancer/pet_cancer_program.php--- Shelli <merk4insightbb> wrote:> I posted this question a while back but got no responses so I'm trying again.> My 5-1/2 month old puppy (6 pounds) has a UTI that antibiotics are not> helping. She's been on 4 or 5 different ones. They did a bladder x-ray and> found no abnormalities. She is being spayed on Jan. 8th and the vet will look> at her bladder then. I'm wondering if iodine might help her. I saw where> someone said it cured their bladder infection when, I think, antibiotics> didn't. If it might help, how much should I give her? I did give her one drop> of Lugol's yesterday and one today but I don't know if that is enough, too> much, or too little. Any input would be appreciated. I'm about at my wit's> end with this.> Thanks.> Shelli> __________________________________________________

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You're probably right. Thanks for finding these links. One of them is the one that I read about treating bladder infections. It doesn't give a dosage though.

Thank you.

Shelli

Re: Puppy's UT-would lugol's help?

I suspect that you did not get an answer because no one had one. I don't either but I googled on dogs and iodine and got lots of hits. Here are a few.Irenehttp://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2 & cat=1662 & articleid=674http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/iodine.htmlhttp://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/thyro-pet-hypothyroid-holistic-treatment.html?ovchn=GGL & ovcpn=Google+PetAlive & ovcrn=iodine+dogs & ovtac=PPC & gclid=CKiF486Fu4kCFQn7Ygodw01edQAt 11:52 AM 12/30/2006, you wrote:

I posted this question a while back but got no responses so I'm trying again. My 5-1/2 month old puppy (6 pounds) has a UTI that antibiotics are not helping. She's been on 4 or 5 different ones. They did a bladder x-ray and found no abnormalities. She is being spayed on Jan. 8th and the vet will look at her bladder then. I'm wondering if iodine might help her. I saw where someone said it cured their bladder infection when, I think, antibiotics didn't. If it might help, how much should I give her? I did give her one drop of Lugol's yesterday and one today but I don't know if that is enough, too much, or too little. Any input would be appreciated. I'm about at my wit's end with this.Thanks.Shelli

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I have no idea what the dosage would be for a puppy (and maybe no one else does, which is why there isn't much response?). I don't think iodine hurts dogs in any reasonable dosage but I'm not a vet. There is an issue with the balance of iodine and selenium which I don't really have figured out: I give my animals powdered kelp, which has both in it, and doesn't seem to be harmful. They've never gotten infections of any kind, except the occasional ear infection, which I treat with some diluted iodine drops.

D-mannose, however, seems to work well for bladder infections and it's pretty harmless in any dosage. A lot of the new bacteria are resistant to antibiotics, but the sugars like D-mannose glom onto the " sticky " parts of the bacteria and keep them from sticking to the bladder wall. The bacteria are not resistant to that.

Also, if it were me I'd make sure her food doesn't have wheat in it. The wheat protein, gliadin, does some pretty nasty things to dogs, including breaking down their immune system, making them more prone to infections and cancers. Wheat isn't a traditional wolf food, to say the least. Cow milk can be problematic too. See http://www.dogtorj.net/ for more about all that! I feed my dogs something like Avoderm or other dry foods with good ingredients, or odd beef parts that have been fermented in kefir.

Anyway, if you want to correspond more about this, it should go offlist if it's not about iodine.-- On 12/30/06, Shelli <

merk4@...> wrote:

I posted this question a while back but got no responses so I'm trying again. My 5-1/2 month old puppy (6 pounds) has a UTI that antibiotics are not helping. She's been on 4 or 5 different ones. They did a bladder x-ray and found no abnormalities. She is being spayed on Jan. 8th and the vet will look at her bladder then. I'm wondering if iodine might help her. I saw where someone said it cured their bladder infection when, I think, antibiotics didn't. If it might help, how much should I give her? I did give her one drop of Lugol's yesterday and one today but I don't know if that is enough, too much, or too little. Any input would be appreciated. I'm about at my wit's end with this.

Thanks.

Shelli

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Here is another great forum that deals with doggies. The

moderator there is extremely, extremely knowledgeable. You would get an

answer to your question there I'm sure.

http://pets./group/K9Kitchen/

V

--- In iodine , "

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I don't think you'd get a good reception for iodine usage at K9Kitchen.  I'm a member there and from info I received when treating a dog with cancer and utilizing iodine, they didn't have much info, in fact it was highly discouraged.  The group is only interested in info that is backed by mainstream medical studies and one of the moderators thinks that Quackwatch is a great resource.  They do have some good nutritional info but they heavily rely on synthetic medicines for health problems.  Alternative info is not their focus.  You might try the Wellpet group,  Wellpet-subscribe , they're more alternatively inclined. LinnOn Dec 31, 2006, at 1:15 PM, maribob7 wrote:Here is another great forum that deals with doggies. The moderator there is extremely, extremely knowledgeable. You would get an answer to your question there I'm sure.http://pets./group/K9Kitchen/ V--- In iodine , "

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Sorry, I thought they would help...I found them to be very

informative. V

>

> > Here is another great forum that deals with doggies. The

> > moderator there is extremely, extremely knowledgeable. You would

> > get an

> > answer to your question there I'm sure.

> > http://pets./group/K9Kitchen/

> > V

> >

> > --- In iodine , "

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I was actually kind of surprised that they knew so little about iodine, more the typical phobia regarding it.Linn  On Jan 1, 2007, at 12:45 PM, maribob7 wrote:Sorry, I thought they would help...I found them to be very informative. V>> I don't think you'd get a good reception for iodine usage at > K9Kitchen. .