Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 What is a GOOD fill vs a fill that is too much and dangerous ? It's important to know that, even with a fluoro, a good fill can be very elusive. A fill that " looks perfect " on a fluoro can still turn out to be way too tight in a hour, a day, a week. The usual swelling that is common after a fill occurs in the next few-24 hrs, not immediately. The only thing that matters in the end is how well and safely you can EAT, not what the x-ray " shows. " It also takes some fills 1-2 weeks to settle in, and we cannot tell how a fill reallyis until then. this is why at least 4 weeks between fills is very important, and this is addressed by the band manufacturer in the professional literature they provide surgeons. This is why many US docs rarely use a fluoro.They consider it uneeded radiation (to the ovary area in women) that does not tell enough to justify it's use. a fluoro DOES have it's place, though, in certain circumstances. Since a fluoro is only a clue to a good fill, WE must therefore be responsible for knowing what a good fill is, and never trying to keep a too-tight one. Way too many people think that if the doc says " this fluoro looks great " and sends you home, that the fill IS always good, and they must put up with any pain or problems. Just not so! I wish it were that clear-cut. With a GOOD fill, we can: 1. easily drink fluids from the start, and get the minimum 80-100 oz a day in 2. be able to eat 1-1.5 cups of good bandster food per meal most of the time. Less than this will never meet nutrition needs for health or safe loss 3. with good bandster choices, can meet the daily (on average) protein, fiber, calcium, good carb, and omega 3 oil needs 4. we never have pain when eating, unless we forget a rule 5. we rarely have barfing, pb's, or sliming 6. With a good band meal, we feel satisfied (not FULL - there is an important difference) for 3-4 hrs 7. we will be losing, averaged over 4-6 weeks, about 1-2# a week, as long as we are being reasonable in food choices, exercise, and fluid needs. we have to do our part too - the band is not a magic cure. A TOO-TIGHT and dangerous fill is: 1. being unable to swallow your own saliva, and having painful burping 2. being able to eat only a few bites per meal 3. being scared and worried when we eat 4. not being able to eat a variety of foods 5. Struggling to meet fluid needs 6. ANY regular REFLUX 7. ANY regular pain or trouble, including pb's, sliming, barfing 8. Being unable to eat the soid meat/chicken/fish that is the basis of most good bandster meals. 9. Having to rely on soft foods and liquid foods like protein drinks, soups, ice cream , etc to get enough to eat and feel satisfied (This applies only after we are back on regualar foods, of course, not in the post-op diet phases) 10. a too-tight fill is harmful to the stomach, and the #1 reason for ALL the major band problems, some requirig more expensive surgery and even band removal. We have to take very good care of our stomachs if we want the band to stay safe and last inside us. One of the hardest things we have to change is the thought that the less we eat, the more we will lose and the better we will do. this is very untrue, and very unsafe. when our bodies are deprived of adequate calories, they refuses to lose well - if at all. When our calories are too low, the metabolism " et point " is way too low, and we VERY easily regain. This is a big reason why we all reganed plus then some after all previous diet. The " starvation mode " , when we are eating too little for safety and stop losing as a protective mechanism, is VERY real. We must eat ENOUGH calories, but still just a bit less than we need, to lose safely and in a way that will STAY the heck OFF this time!! We have all lost weight before, and sometimes a lot of weight, but we did it in an unsafe way that caused deprivation and poor health, and all the weght plus more just came right back again. THIS time, we need to learn and follow better ways to be successful with the Band, maintain lost weight longterm, and regain our health. c. Sandy s, BSN, MN Band Educator at goal 5 yrs as of 1/09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Have you heard anyone going to tj mexico for tummy tuck and other plastic surgery? What is a good FILL ? vs one too much and unsafe  - repost What is a GOOD fill vs a fill that is too much and dangerous ? It's important to know that, even with a fluoro, a good fill can be very elusive. A fill that " looks perfect " on a fluoro can still turn out to be way too tight in a hour, a day, a week. The usual swelling that is common after a fill occurs in the next few-24 hrs, not immediately. The only thing that matters in the end is how well and safely you can EAT, not what the x-ray " shows. " It also takes some fills 1-2 weeks to settle in, and we cannot tell how a fill reallyis until then. this is why at least 4 weeks between fills is very important, and this is addressed by the band manufacturer in the professional literature they provide surgeons. This is why many US docs rarely use a fluoro.They consider it uneeded radiation (to the ovary area in women) that does not tell enough to justify it's use. a fluoro DOES have it's place, though, in certain circumstances. Since a fluoro is only a clue to a good fill, WE must therefore be responsible for knowing what a good fill is, and never trying to keep a too-tight one. Way too many people think that if the doc says " this fluoro looks great " and sends you home, that the fill IS always good, and they must put up with any pain or problems. Just not so! I wish it were that clear-cut. With a GOOD fill, we can: 1. easily drink fluids from the start, and get the minimum 80-100 oz a day in 2. be able to eat 1-1.5 cups of good bandster food per meal most of the time. Less than this will never meet nutrition needs for health or safe loss 3. with good bandster choices, can meet the daily (on average) protein, fiber, calcium, good carb, and omega 3 oil needs 4. we never have pain when eating, unless we forget a rule 5. we rarely have barfing, pb's, or sliming 6. With a good band meal, we feel satisfied (not FULL - there is an important difference) for 3-4 hrs 7. we will be losing, averaged over 4-6 weeks, about 1-2# a week, as long as we are being reasonable in food choices, exercise, and fluid needs. we have to do our part too - the band is not a magic cure. A TOO-TIGHT and dangerous fill is: 1. being unable to swallow your own saliva, and having painful burping 2. being able to eat only a few bites per meal 3. being scared and worried when we eat 4. not being able to eat a variety of foods 5. Struggling to meet fluid needs 6. ANY regular REFLUX 7. ANY regular pain or trouble, including pb's, sliming, barfing 8. Being unable to eat the soid meat/chicken/fish that is the basis of most good bandster meals. 9. Having to rely on soft foods and liquid foods like protein drinks, soups, ice cream , etc to get enough to eat and feel satisfied (This applies only after we are back on regualar foods, of course, not in the post-op diet phases) 10. a too-tight fill is harmful to the stomach, and the #1 reason for ALL the major band problems, some requirig more expensive surgery and even band removal. We have to take very good care of our stomachs if we want the band to stay safe and last inside us. One of the hardest things we have to change is the thought that the less we eat, the more we will lose and the better we will do. this is very untrue, and very unsafe. when our bodies are deprived of adequate calories, they refuses to lose well - if at all. When our calories are too low, the metabolism " et point " is way too low, and we VERY easily regain. This is a big reason why we all reganed plus then some after all previous diet. The " starvation mode " , when we are eating too little for safety and stop losing as a protective mechanism, is VERY real. We must eat ENOUGH calories, but still just a bit less than we need, to lose safely and in a way that will STAY the heck OFF this time!! We have all lost weight before, and sometimes a lot of weight, but we did it in an unsafe way that caused deprivation and poor health, and all the weght plus more just came right back again. THIS time, we need to learn and follow better ways to be successful with the Band, maintain lost weight longterm, and regain our health. c. Sandy s, BSN, MN Band Educator at goal 5 yrs as of 1/09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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