My Iodine Loading Test Results

[Guest guest]

> I'm about to have to ditch dairy though as I finally tested for

> dairy/gluten allergies and I've got them. I figured as much but just

> didnt want to face the truth. I love(d) my raw dairy!

> Lucky for me though eggs are fine.

I'm sorry Lynn! My entero kit is sitting on the kitchen table waiting for me

to take action. One of my kids tested allergic to casein so I'm not feeling

hopeful. I love cheese!

Elaine

[Guest guest]

> I'm sorry Lynn! My entero kit is sitting on the kitchen table

waiting for me

> to take action. One of my kids tested allergic to casein so I'm not

feeling

> hopeful. I love cheese!

-----> I was fairly suspicious of diary no big surprise. The test says

cow's milk so I need to call and find out about goat. Different types

of casiens. Plus I've heard the protiens form differently depending on

the type of food the animal is getting. Grassfed high quality goat

dairy might be just fine.....LOL..if you can find it!

Here's a short synopsis of the difference:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/casein_sensit

ivity.htm

Anyhow...I bought the Thai cookbook I've been eyeing for about 2

months so all is not lost!

Bye

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,

What dairy/gluten allergy test did you have (or do you recommend)?

Thanks much,

Sharon

> I'm about to have to ditch dairy though as I finally tested for

> dairy/gluten allergies and I've got them. I figured as much but just

> didnt want to face the truth. I love(d) my raw dairy!

> Lucky for me though eggs are fine.

[Guest guest]

> Hi Lynn,

> What dairy/gluten allergy test did you have (or do you recommend)?

> Thanks much,

> Sharon

---->http://enterolab.com/

I didn't do the gluten as I already clear on that one and didn't want

to spend any more money. I tested dairy, casien and gut absorbtion as

an indicator of damage. I think total costs were around $250.

Enterolab seems to be the gold standard on another list I'm on.

(weston price lists for wheat-free, dairy-free eating)

These kinds of allergies can cause cortisol proplems and I've got that.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

I also wanted to mention that when I did the patch test several times, the

iodine tincture

was gone in 30-60 min., so I figured my loading test would show a much greater

deficiency.

Marie

>

> Here are the results of my first loading test. I guess I'm low but not all

that severe

> considering the results I've seen other people post. I thought I would come

out much

worse

> due to all the hours in the swimming pool for my entire life. The only iodine

supplementing I

> did was to experiment with 1-8 drops of Lugols/day in the three weeks

preceding the

test (to

> see if I could tolerate the 50 mg necessary for the test.) And of course,

nothing for 48

hours

> before the test.

>

> iodine spot 0.779 range >.149 mg/L

>

> 24 hour I & I loading 37 Low range >44 mg/24hr

> 24 hour I & I saturation 74 Low range >90 %Total

>

> Comments anyone? Does anyone know how much Iodoral I would take to raise my

level

to

> the 90% mark? Would I need the 50 mg that others take or would 25 mg be fine?

>

> I ordered my test thru VRP and asked if the test included a consultation. I

was told no.

How

> did other people get the free consultation?

>

> Thanks for any input you may have,

> Marie

>

[Guest guest]

Marie, would you be willing to post your results in our database? Both the one on the patch test and the one on iodine loading test results.

iodine/database

[if anyone else has used the patch test (especially if you have done it more than once) or the loading test, please post your results.]

We are trying to collect data to determine whether the patch test has any validity -- i.e., does the patch test really measure how much iodine is in the body.

Also, we are trying to find out what results people get on the iodine loading test. Yours are particularly high for someone who has not supplemented.

Zoe

Re: My Iodine Loading Test Results

I also wanted to mention that when I did the patch test several times, the iodine tincture was gone in 30-60 min., so I figured my loading test would show a much greater deficiency.Marie>> Here are the results of my first loading test. I guess I'm low but not all that severe > considering the results I've seen other people post. I thought I would come out much worse > due to all the hours in the swimming pool for my entire life. The only iodine supplementing I > did was to experiment with 1-8 drops of Lugols/day in the three weeks preceding the test (to > see if I could tolerate the 50 mg necessary for the test.) And of course, nothing for 48 hours > before the test.> > iodine spot 0.779 range >.149 mg/L> > 24 hour I & I loading 37 Low range >44 mg/24hr> 24 hour I & I saturation 74 Low range >90 %Total > > Comments anyone? Does anyone know how much Iodoral I would take to raise my level to > the 90% mark? Would I need the 50 mg that others take or would 25 mg be fine?> > I ordered my test thru VRP and asked if the test included a consultation. I was told no. How > did other people get the free consultation?> > Thanks for any input you may have,> Marie>Iodine

[Guest guest]

To get the free consultation, you must order directly from the Flechas labs (FFP labs). Ask about it when you order the test.

If you order from VRP, your test will be processed by FFP labs, but you won't get the free consult.

Zoe

----- Original Message -----

From: sunlady59

I ordered my test thru VRP and asked if the test included a consultation. I was told no. How did other people get the free consultation?Thanks for any input you may have,Marie

[Guest guest]

Yes, I certainly will post my results in the database.

Another question, which my holistic doc just asked and for which I cannot figure

out

either: My spot test came out high 0.779 (range is >0.149). If this was

high, shouldn't

I have excreted 90% or more on the loadng test? I excreted 74%.

Marie

> >

> > Here are the results of my first loading test. I guess I'm low but not

all that severe

> > considering the results I've seen other people post. I thought I would

come out

much

> worse

> > due to all the hours in the swimming pool for my entire life. The only

iodine

> supplementing I

> > did was to experiment with 1-8 drops of Lugols/day in the three weeks

preceding

the

> test (to

> > see if I could tolerate the 50 mg necessary for the test.) And of course,

nothing for

48

> hours

> > before the test.

> >

> > iodine spot 0.779 range >.149 mg/L

> >

> > 24 hour I & I loading 37 Low range >44 mg/24hr

> > 24 hour I & I saturation 74 Low range >90 %Total

> >

> > Comments anyone? Does anyone know how much Iodoral I would take to raise

my

level

> to

> > the 90% mark? Would I need the 50 mg that others take or would 25 mg be

fine?

> >

> > I ordered my test thru VRP and asked if the test included a consultation.

I was told

no.

> How

> > did other people get the free consultation?

> >

> > Thanks for any input you may have,

> > Marie

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Iodine

[Guest guest]

The spot test range is based on conventional iodine testing (e.g., with people using 150 mcg iodine). So, anyone using high iodine amounts (e.g., the 50 mg Iodoral) will test very high relative to this range.

The iodine loading test uses a completely different range. So, it is quite possible to be very high on the spot test and very low on the iodine loading test.

Zoe

My spot test came out high 0.779 (range is >0.149). If this was high, shouldn't I have excreted 90% or more on the loadng test? I excreted 74%.Marie

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone:

Got my results in the mail. Wondered what your thoughts might be

about them.

Iodide (spot) 0.416 (range >0.149 mg/L)

Notes: this test if for normal thyroid function & control of endemic

goiter:

1. Severe iodine deficiency defined as 0.025 mg or less

2. Moderate iodine deficiency defined as 0.025-0.050 mg

3. Mild iodine deficiency defined as 0.050-0.100 mg

4. Borderline iodine deficiency defined as 0.100-0.150 mg

5. For normal levels of thyroid hormone & control of endemic goiter

under all physiological conditions, the thyroid needs levels of

0.150mg or greater

24hr Urine Loading Iodine/Iodide

Total Urine Vol: 3,000 ml/24hr (I was well-hydrated )

I & I Loading: 35 LOW (ref >44 mg/24hrs)

I & I Saturation: 70 LOW (ref >90 % Total)

So, I gather from this that my daily intake is sufficient for the

thyroid, but not for full-body saturation.

I was suprised by my spot level - I thought it would be lower. I

don't use table salt, as I was avoiding it due to edema, especially

in the legs. I used to be good about a daily multi, but have slacked

off & gotten sporadic the last year. After I took the test, I

started up daily again. I eat a moderate amount of fish; I don't eat

seaweed or take kelp supplements. I try to be good about fruits &

veggies (5+ servings/day) but I have my off days. I'm in the N.E. so

maybe our soil isn't iodine-deficient. I spend two months/year in

Portugal; I don't know the status of iodine in their soil. I now use

Celtic sea salt, but I started that after the test.

I was also suprised by my saturation level. I didn't expect it to be

that high. In the iodine-spot test, it disappeared in four hours. No

way I expected to be that close to full saturation.

I started on Lugol's drops 2 weeks ago. I'm up to 6 drops/day,

working my way up to 8. Considering where I started, how long do you

think it's likely to to take to reach full saturation?

Once I've reached full saturation, do you think it would be a good

plan to only use 1 drop/day for maintenance? I know the usual

recommendation is 2 (12.5mg). I seem to be getting a decent amount

of iodine somehow in my diet, going by the spot test.

My grandmother had breast cancer, so I'm using iodine for breast

health/general health, as well as for my hypothyroidism (which I

suspect started up around 1998, but I didn't get diagnosed until

now).

Any other comments greatly appreciated!

If it helps for reference, these are the results of some of my

recent saliva/blood tests:

My CC saliva tests from 10/5/06 showed mild adrenal problems:

7am-8am - 23 normal (13-24nM)

11a-noon: 8 normal (5-10nM)

4pm-5pm: 2 DEPRESSED (3-8nM)

11pm-MDT: 1 normal (1-4nM)

Cortisol burden: 34 (23-42)

DHEA 1 DEPRESSED (3-10ng/ml

Cortisol-DHEA Correlation - #4. MALADAPTED, Phase II

Patient Result Interpretations

Anabolic enhancement suggested: DHEA or Pregnenolone augmentation.

Anabolic support suggested.

Hormones:

E2 Estradiol 11 (Luteal range 7-20 pg/ml)

P1 Progesterone >1ooo (Luteal range 65-500 pg/ml) *Note: I take

progesterone cream & was off it only 3 days prior to test. There's

some research that indicates serum levels may be more accurate for

persons supplementing with bio-ident.progesterone

TTF Free Testosterone 12 Normal (normal range 8-20 pg/ml)

Thyroid Results:

fTSH >600 HIGH (normal 26-85, borderline 86-120 nIU/ml) YOWZA, HIGH!

fT4 L-Thyroxine .22 normal (normal range .17-.42 ng/dl)

fT3 Triiodo-thyronine .39 normal (normal range .28-1.1 pg/ml )

TPO Thyroid Microsomal Ab, SIgA Negative (normal = negative)

My blood tests from 1/10/2006 showed:

Total T3: 145 In range (ref 60-181 ng/dl)

Free T4: 1.2 In range (ref .8-1.8 ng/dl)

TSH 2.66 In range (ref .4-5.5 mIU/L) ACK, these are the OLD ref

ranges!

No free T3 was done (sigh)

My blood tests from 12/14/2005 showed:

Cortisol (AM) 10.8 (ref range 4.0-22.0 mcg/dL *Lab printed it in

the " In Range " column, but my NP circled it/flagged it as LOW

DHEA 110 (ref range 25-220 mcg/dL)

Vitamin D,25-Hydroxy 14L LOW (ref range 20-100 ng/mL)

Pregnenolone 24 (ref range 10-230 ng/dL *Lab printed as " In Range "

but my NP circled it/flagged as LOW

Candida Ab (IgG) 1.08 POSITIVE (negative: less than .89,

equivocal .89-.99, positive equal to/greater than 1.00)

I'm still waiting to get my blood tests from HealthCheckUSA

Thanks for your help,

[Guest guest]

Well what are the “healthy ranges” for these numbers? I can’t tell a think without knowing what our body is “supposed” to do... Can you?

sue

On 9/2/08 7:44 AM, " ladybugsandbees " <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

I wanted to update you all on my latest Iodine Loading test results.

July 2008

Iodine Excreted 53%

Bromide Excreted 28.6 mgs/24 hr

I haven't had a chance to talk to Dr. Brownstein about these yet as he e-mailed them to me this morning. I am puzzled as to why my saturation levels have come down by 13% which is one of the questions I have for him. The good news is that the level of bromide has dropped but it is concerning that my level would still be high (see research info- bottom email- of 18 being 3x the RDA recommended so I am a lot higher).

Dosage history:

50 mgs March 06 - Sept '06

75 mgs Oct 06 - Nov 06

50 mgs Dec 06 - Mid Oct 07

100 mgs Mid Oct 07 - Mid Feb 08

Took a break from iodine from mid March 08 - end of April 08 for a detox protocol (off all supplements)

100 mgs April 08 - July 08

Currently on 100 mgs

Here are my past results:

November 2007

Iodine Excreted 66%

Bromide Excreted 34 mgs/24 hrs

Dosage history:

50 mgs March 06 - Sept '06

75 mgs Oct 06 - Nov 06

50 mgs Dec 06 - Mid Oct 07

100 mgs Mid Oct 07 - Mid Nov '07

August 2006

Iodine Excreted 60%

No Bromide done

Dosage History: I took 50 mgs Iodoral from March '06 to the time I took the test.

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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2003_May/ai_100767875

The baseline level of urinary fluoride was very low, but bromide concentration was 18.4 mg/24h, 3 times the ADI recommended by Van Leeuwen et al. (6) Following supplementation with the iodine/iodide preparation, there was a progressive increase in the excretion of fluoride and bromide.

[Guest guest]

Your loading number should be 90%. Bromide should be zero. But that will never happen because we are bombarded with it constantly.

Steph

Re: My Iodine Loading Test Results

Well what are the “healthy ranges” for these numbers? I can’t tell a think without knowing what our body is “supposed” to do... Can you?sueOn 9/2/08 7:44 AM, "ladybugsandbees" <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

I wanted to update you all on my latest Iodine Loading test results. July 2008Iodine Excreted 53%Bromide Excreted 28.6 mgs/24 hrI haven't had a chance to talk to Dr. Brownstein about these yet as he e-mailed them to me this morning. I am puzzled as to why my saturation levels have come down by 13% which is one of the questions I have for him. The good news is that the level of bromide has dropped but it is concerning that my level would still be high (see research info- bottom email- of 18 being 3x the RDA recommended so I am a lot higher).Dosage history: 50 mgs March 06 - Sept '0675 mgs Oct 06 - Nov 0650 mgs Dec 06 - Mid Oct 07100 mgs Mid Oct 07 - Mid Feb 08Took a break from iodine from mid March 08 - end of April 08 for a detox protocol (off all supplements)100 mgs April 08 - July 08Currently on 100 mgsHere are my past results:November 2007Iodine Excreted 66%Bromide Excreted 34 mgs/24 hrsDosage history: 50 mgs March 06 - Sept '0675 mgs Oct 06 - Nov 0650 mgs Dec 06 - Mid Oct 07100 mgs Mid Oct 07 - Mid Nov '07 August 2006Iodine Excreted 60%No Bromide doneDosage History: I took 50 mgs Iodoral from March '06 to the time I took the test. ==========================================http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2003_May/ai_100767875The baseline level of urinary fluoride was very low, but bromide concentration was 18.4 mg/24h, 3 times the ADI recommended by Van Leeuwen et al. (6) Following supplementation with the iodine/iodide preparation, there was a progressive increase in the excretion of fluoride and bromide.

[Guest guest]

Wow, I'm not sure I know what all of this means! In there somewhere is

the amount if Iodine your body is using right? And the amount of bromide

your getting rid of. So we ever get rid of the bromide? I assume

everyone has it?

karen/MI

I wanted to update you all on my latest Iodine Loading test results.

July 2008

Iodine Excreted 53%

Bromide Excreted 28.6 mgs/24 hr

I haven't had a chance to talk to Dr. Brownstein about these yet as he e-mailed them to me this morning. I am puzzled as to why my saturation levels have come down by 13% which is one of the questions I have for him. The good news is that the level of bromide has dropped but it is concerning that my level would still be high (see research info- bottom email- of 18 being 3x the RDA recommended so I am a lot higher).

Dosage history:

50 mgs March 06 - Sept '06

75 mgs Oct 06 - Nov 06

50 mgs Dec 06 - Mid Oct 07

100 mgs Mid Oct 07 - Mid Feb 08

Took a break from iodine from mid March 08 - end of April 08 for a detox protocol (off all supplements)

100 mgs April 08 - July 08

Currently on 100 mgs

Here are my past results:

November 2007

Iodine Excreted 66%

Bromide Excreted 34 mgs/24 hrs

Dosage history:

50 mgs March 06 - Sept '06

75 mgs Oct 06 - Nov 06

50 mgs Dec 06 - Mid Oct 07

100 mgs Mid Oct 07 - Mid Nov '07

August 2006

Iodine Excreted 60%

No Bromide done

Dosage History: I took 50 mgs Iodoral from March '06 to the time I took the test.

==========================================

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2003_May/ai_100767875

The baseline level of urinary fluoride was very low, but bromide concentration was 18.4 mg/24h, 3 times the ADI recommended by Van Leeuwen et al. (6) Following supplementation with the iodine/iodide preparation, there was a progressive increase in the excretion of fluoride and bromide.

[Guest guest]

So why bother with the test if we never reach optimal? Do you FEEL

different with the Iodine?

/MI

Your loading number should be 90%. Bromide should be zero. But that will never happen because we are bombarded with it constantly.

Steph

Re: My Iodine Loading Test Results

Well what are the “healthy ranges” for these numbers? I can’t tell a think without knowing what our body is “supposed” to do... Can you?sueOn 9/2/08 7:44 AM, "ladybugsandbees" <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

I wanted to update you all on my latest Iodine Loading test results. July 2008Iodine Excreted 53%Bromide Excreted 28.6 mgs/24 hrI haven't had a chance to talk to Dr. Brownstein about these yet as he e-mailed them to me this morning. I am puzzled as to why my saturation levels have come down by 13% which is one of the questions I have for him. The good news is that the level of bromide has dropped but it is concerning that my level would still be high (see research info- bottom email- of 18 being 3x the RDA recommended so I am a lot higher).Dosage history: 50 mgs March 06 - Sept '0675 mgs Oct 06 - Nov 0650 mgs Dec 06 - Mid Oct 07100 mgs Mid Oct 07 - Mid Feb 08Took a break from iodine from mid March 08 - end of April 08 for a detox protocol (off all supplements)100 mgs April 08 - July 08Currently on 100 mgsHere are my past results:November 2007Iodine Excreted 66%Bromide Excreted 34 mgs/24 hrsDosage history: 50 mgs March 06 - Sept '0675 mgs Oct 06 - Nov 0650 mgs Dec 06 - Mid Oct 07100 mgs Mid Oct 07 - Mid Nov '07 August 2006Iodine Excreted 60%No Bromide doneDosage History: I took 50 mgs Iodoral from March '06 to the time I took the test. ==========================================http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2003_May/ai_100767875The baseline level of urinary fluoride was very low, but bromide concentration was 18.4 mg/24h, 3 times the ADI recommended by Van Leeuwen et al. (6) Following supplementation with the iodine/iodide preparation, there was a progressive increase in the excretion of fluoride and bromide.

[Guest guest]

We are shooting for a 90% excretion meaning my body has enough in it and

when I take the " challenge " dose it flushes it out because it doesn't need

it.

As for bromide - I have no idea how much I had to begin with but it seems

like a lot since I eat organic now. It's frustrating to see it drop so

slowly. Dr. B suggested I increase my Iodine dose again. UGH! Guess I

will go to 125 mgs after I get back from vacation. Not willing to detox

while I am gone.

Steph

Re: My Iodine Loading Test Results

> Wow, I'm not sure I know what all of this means! In there somewhere is

> the amount if Iodine your body is using right? And the amount of bromide

> your getting rid of. So we ever get rid of the bromide? I assume

> everyone has it?

>

> karen/MI

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[Guest guest]

Not true that you don't reach it. You can and most do. My symporters are

so damaged by the RAI that we are struggling to heal them enough to pull

iodine in. This dropping in levels is a prime reason why to test as we

messed with my protocol trying some new things and dropping others and now

we need to add some stuff back and know what doesn't work. Iodine is my

cancer protector. I need it to stay high.

Re: My Iodine Loading Test Results

> So why bother with the test if we never reach optimal? Do you FEEL

> different with the Iodine?

>

> /MI

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for explaining that. Good to know your body just dumps the Iodine

it doesn't need, as I was wondering if you can over do it. You may go up

to 125 mg....what's the highest you should go?

/MI

We are shooting for a 90% excretion meaning my body has enough in it and

when I take the " challenge " dose it flushes it out because it doesn't need

it.

As for bromide - I have no idea how much I had to begin with but it seems

like a lot since I eat organic now. It's frustrating to see it drop so

slowly. Dr. B suggested I increase my Iodine dose again. UGH! Guess I

will go to 125 mgs after I get back from vacation. Not willing to detox

while I am gone.

Steph

Re: My Iodine Loading Test Results

> Wow, I'm not sure I know what all of this means! In there somewhere is

> the amount if Iodine your body is using right? And the amount of bromide

> your getting rid of. So we ever get rid of the bromide? I assume

> everyone has it?

>

> karen/MI

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