Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Hi ... I would opt for the lapband. I was a very big binge eater. The lapband is much safer, less invasive, reversible and adjustable. RNY is permenant, and while you usually lose the weight faster, it comes with a lot of side effects. The lapband keeps your portions in check and lets you lose weight safely. Just my opinion...HUGS to you while making your decision to get healthy. Debbie in Moreno Valley, CA binge eatting Hi everyone! This is my first post to the group. Tomorrow is my consultation with the Bariatric Surgeon. He does RNY and the Lapband procedure. I was just reading on a messagae board (Obesity Help) and someone asked the question about being a binge eatter. They all suggested she not get Lapband and opt for RNY. I am a binge eatter myself. Do you think that is correct advice? I would consider o ut of control eatting binge eatting and that is me to a tee. Any advice? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Maybe i'm bias because I am banded, but I was also a binge eater. The wonderful thing about the band it that it was a gradual change in my eating habits. When you first get banded and you've healed and start getting filled you'll notice that you eat less and less, sometime you don't even want to over eat because you know you'll have to throw up (which i HATE to do). I think there is more emotional distress with other surgies because of the drastic change. It's would've been very frustrating to me to wake up one day and only being able to eat 1/2 an egg. You might loose the weight slower with the band but you will get there in a safer and a less dramatic strain on your body. I started at 293 size 26 on 9/28/2003 and now I am 265 size 8. You will get there. Camille Debbie <babykitty59@...> wrote: Hi ... I would opt for the lapband. I was a very big binge eater. The lapband is much safer, less invasive, reversible and adjustable. RNY is permenant, and while you usually lose the weight faster, it comes with a lot of side effects. The lapband keeps your portions in check and lets you lose weight safely. Just my opinion...HUGS to you while making your decision to get healthy. Debbie in Moreno Valley, CA binge eatting Hi everyone! This is my first post to the group. Tomorrow is my consultation with the Bariatric Surgeon. He does RNY and the Lapband procedure. I was just reading on a messagae board (Obesity Help) and someone asked the question about being a binge eatter. They all suggested she not get Lapband and opt for RNY. I am a binge eatter myself. Do you think that is correct advice? I would consider o ut of control eatting binge eatting and that is me to a tee. Any advice? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 It all depends on what you consider binge eating, is it a huge unhealthy meal or non stop eating all day long. I know for me its the non stop eating, never really feeling full. Once you have a good resitriction with the band, your going to " hit bottom " faster. At least this is what I have noticed. So your calorie intake for the day will be less, If not loosing weight not putting it on as fast. Just my opion Also everything I hear at 5 years out we are about the same, We need to get control of our eating habits, somthing I remind myself of everyday. Sherry s binge eatting > Hi everyone! This is my first post to the group. Tomorrow is my > consultation with the Bariatric Surgeon. He does RNY and the > Lapband procedure. I was just reading on a messagae board > (Obesity Help) and someone asked the question about being a > binge eatter. They all suggested she not get Lapband and opt for > RNY. I am a binge eatter myself. Do you think that is correct > advice? I would consider o ut of control eatting binge eatting > and that is me to a tee. Any advice? Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 binge eatting >Hi everyone! This is my first post to the group. Tomorrow is my consultation with the >Bariatric Surgeon. He does RNY and the Lapband procedure. I was just reading on a >messagae board (Obesity Help) and someone asked the question about being a >binge eatter. They all suggested she not get Lapband and opt for RNY. I am a binge >eatter myself. Do you think that is correct advice? I would consider o ut of control >eatting binge eatting and that is me to a tee. Any advice? Thanks! > Hi , First, this group is supposed to be for those already banded, but since you've asked I'll answer. However, I hope you'll continue to read and observe rather than load us with more questions of a pre-banding nature. Second, I'd go for a band. Not just because I have one and think they're the better choice for MOST obese people, but because if BINGE means eating a large quantity, the band will stop that in most cases. If your binges are on pizza, they'll end quickly. If they're on ice cream and chocolate, the band won't help much. But the band will limit quantity of non-liquid, non-soft things. The band will NOT stop grazing (which I consider different from binging), as you can nibble all day, even on " good foods " and not lose weight. dan " Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. " -- Will www.mylapband.tk or www.riverofdata.com Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/27/03 355/323/210/190 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 It also depends " what are you binge eating " . Because if you get on ice cream and chocolate, it will go in no matter what can of surgery you have. The good thing is that, I can not binge eating anymore on ice cream, this last fill does not let me eat more that 1 cup of ice cream, I start feeling coming out....hope it last the effect:) Lidia speidy@... wrote: It all depends on what you consider binge eating, is it a huge unhealthy meal or non stop eating all day long. I know for me its the non stop eating, never really feeling full. Once you have a good resitriction with the band, your going to " hit bottom " faster. At least this is what I have noticed. So your calorie intake for the day will be less, If not loosing weight not putting it on as fast. Just my opion Also everything I hear at 5 years out we are about the same, We need to get control of our eating habits, somthing I remind myself of everyday. Sherry s binge eatting > Hi everyone! This is my first post to the group. Tomorrow is my > consultation with the Bariatric Surgeon. He does RNY and the > Lapband procedure. I was just reading on a messagae board > (Obesity Help) and someone asked the question about being a > binge eatter. They all suggested she not get Lapband and opt for > RNY. I am a binge eatter myself. Do you think that is correct > advice? I would consider o ut of control eatting binge eatting > and that is me to a tee. Any advice? Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Wwelcome, ! Many of the RNY folks are adamantly against the Band. Many of the band people are equally as adamant against the RNY. It's a very personal decision to make, after a great deal of thought and research. The docs who do mostly bypass promote the bypass. IMO, this is because of several things - the bypass has a higher rate or pay for the surgeon - less followtime is needed - the doc does not have to see them for fills, occasional unfills, etc . The followup for the band is more costly and time-consuming. - the bypass rewuires much less teaching time - people want fast results, healthy or not, lasting or not IMO, the band is far better for a number of reasons. i won't go into them all now, becuase there are regular and recent discussions on OH about this. But I will say here that, although the bypass people DO lose faster the first 1-2 years (from pure starvation and malabsoption, which is extremely unhealthy, both in the short- and lon-term, at 3 yrs out, the band people and bypass people have lost (on average) almost identical percentages of weight. and from there on, the band people actuallly do better with losing and/or maintaining. since I hope we are all in this for the LONG TERM (we have all lost before with starvation diers, and it just came right back, plus more), I ask people to understand that there must be many changes if we want LONGTERM success. We can't just keep doing the same thing, and slap a band on or chop the gut with the bypass. We have to CHANGE what we are foing if we want different results this time. Once the RNY people are 18-24 mo out, their bodies have adapted and re- grown intestine, so they absorb better. From there on, they must strictly diet and exercise for the rest of their lives to maintain - and this is why most of them do NOT maintain their lose weght. As far as binge -eating? That makes you an IDEAL candidate for the band! Those who binge-eat eat a lot at once. this is one of the ways the band helps us - it physically limits the amounts of food we can eat. It dims hunger so you're less interested in food. You will have a pouch abnout the size of a golfball - how many Cheetos do you think you can put in there, when you're binging? :-) You WILL still be able to overeat with either procedure if you really push it - but with a well-filled band, learning better things, and a normal bit of dedication, you won't WANT or NEED to binge. The bypass people might say that their " dumping " is a benefit - they get so ill with sweets they just can't eat them. Well, the truth is that only about 70% of them dump at first, and then most of them adapt -so they can and do eat sweets just fine. So this is no reason to go for the RNY, imo. But please let me say more. Neither procedure is a magic cure. both procedurrs require a lot of dedication and committment. both require much better eating, exercise, and many lifestyle changes. both ask us to look deeply at the reasons we overeat or binge, and find out what needs we are trying to meet with extra food. Then, we can learn better ways to meet these needs, which are almost always EMOTIONAL needs. I are becuase I was bored, depressed, sad, angry, hurt, because I walked past a friege, becuase I drove past a McD, becuase there was nothing else to do. These are all emotioanl thingd thsat I needed to overcome. I believe we all need to work hard on emotional issues, or our chances for success for EITHER procedure are not very good at all. both may cause a temporary weight loss, but if we are still eating inappropriately for emotional reasons, we have a high chance of regaining. I encourage people to start working with a good therapist, well before surgery. But starting at any time is better than not starting at all. IMO, we dopn't do a very good jpob of stressing this, and many docs do'nt mention it at ALL. From one who has " been there and done that " , I think this is an area that is critical, and responsible for most of the " failures " from either procedure. Glad you're here! You'll always get honest and open responses from all the great people here, and there is nothing " off limnits " if related at all to band issues. Is your husband banded too? We have another membership here under this same email address. Not a problem at all - but you might want a membership in your name only? Sandy R banded 4 yrs, at goal x 3 yrs > > Hi everyone! This is my first post to the group. Tomorrow is my consultation with the Bariatric Surgeon. He does RNY and the Lapband procedure. I was just reading on a messagae board (Obesity Help) and someone asked the question about being a binge eatter. They all suggested she not get Lapband and opt for RNY. I am a binge eatter myself. Do you think that is correct advice? I would consider o ut of control eatting binge eatting and that is me to a tee. Any advice? Thanks! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Oh, one more thing I forgot! It's extremely important (ie critical) that you choose a surgeon highly-experienced with the BAND. Most docs do mostly bypass, and afew bands. These docs sometimes/often don't know the many different needs of the BASND clients. The Band is an entirely-different procedure, with different nutrition needed, different followcare, different teaching and much more. When a doc does mostly bypass, these clients get most of the attention and care. Then, when the band clients in the practice perhaps don't do so well, then they say " See?? The band doesn't work " - and then have even less optimism for the band, and give it even less time and study. To do well with the band, the doc must be a strong advocate of BANDING. He/she must stay current with the regular updates and changes, be knowledgeable about BAND nutrition and it's many other needs. To be considered experienced, a doc must have done at least 100 bands, many hundreds of fills, and do both very regularly -not, like 30 bands a year and a fill every few weeks. Practice makes perfect. If a doc has done 10,000 bypasses, that means NOTHING about his band expertise, as they are entirely different procedures. Sandy R > > > Hi everyone! This is my first post to the group. Tomorrow is my consultation with the Bariatric Surgeon.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Dan, I invited to the group, since she is scheduled for banding soon. It's MY mistake, sorry, but she'll be a Bandster shortly. Sandy > > Hi , > > First, this group is supposed to be for those already banded, but since you've asked I'll answer. However, I hope you'll continue to read and observe rather than load us with more questions of a pre- banding nature. > > Second, I'd go for a band. Not just because I have one and think they're the better choice for MOST obese people, but because if BINGE means eating a large quantity, the band will stop that in most cases. If your binges are on pizza, they'll end quickly. If they're on ice cream and chocolate, the band won't help much. But the band will limit quantity of non-liquid, non-soft things. > > The band will NOT stop grazing (which I consider different from binging), as you can nibble all day, even on " good foods " and not lose weight. > > dan > > " Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. " -- Will > www.mylapband.tk or www.riverofdata.com > Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA > Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/27/03 > 355/323/210/190 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 camille, please check your numbers. they can't be right. lost 25 pounds in four years going from size 26 to 8? doesn't compute. george > > Maybe i'm bias because I am banded, but I was also a binge eater. The wonderful thing about the band it that it was a gradual change in my eating habits. When you first get banded and you've healed and start getting filled you'll notice that you eat less and less, sometime you don't even want to over eat because you know you'll have to throw up (which i HATE to do). I think there is more emotional distress with other surgies because of the drastic change. It's would've been very frustrating to me to wake up one day and only being able to eat 1/2 an egg. You might loose the weight slower with the band but you will get there in a safer and a less dramatic strain on your body. I started at 293 size 26 on 9/28/2003 and now I am 265 size 8. You will get there. > Camille > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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