Re: tight band or swollen stoma???

November 26, 2007

Hello cindywebb1667,

Sunday, November 25, 2007, 8:04:51 PM, you wrote:

> Chicken - turkey - cucumbers -and Corn are some of the things that

> got stuck. Oh and Oatmeal for breakfast got stuck. If it was a

> painful stuck - it was the end of the meal for me. Sometimes it is

> just that I feel it go down so the next bite I make smaller and chew

> longer.

Sticky things like oatmeal, cream of wheat, egg salad, and so forth

always cause me problems. It is the stickiness unless you really make

the cereal runny. And for me, eggs are always troublesome regardless

of how they're prepared.

As Sandy noted recently, most of us have trouble with dry meats like

chicken, turkey, and pork. Of course it depends on how they're

prepared. But as far as chicken and turkey go, I've turned from a

" breast man " into a " thigh man " . The dark meat is generally juicier

and easier for me to handle.

--

Best regards,

Dan mailto:honu@...

November 26, 2007

Hello cindywebb1667,

Sunday, November 25, 2007, 8:12:24 PM, you wrote:

> I'm going

> to ask him to take .5 cc's out and see what happens. I wasn't

> anywhere near optimal restriction before the last 2 cc fill and the 2

> cc fills seems a tiny bit much - I think with .5 taken out - better

> concentrated effort on my part with eating properly and a few days of

> liquid to let the stoma rest I'll probably be in bandster heaven.

I'm a firm believer in ignoring the numbers. Just tell the doc or

fill person you're a bit too tight, and let them adjust as necessary.

Remember, the only fill levels are:

Too tight

Too loose

Just right

--

Best regards,

Dan mailto:honu@...

November 26, 2007

When you say 'cause you problems' do you mean you get stuck?

Perhaps I dont' need an unfill - prehaps I just need to prepare foods

differently.

>

> > Chicken - turkey - cucumbers -and Corn are some of the things

that

> > got stuck. Oh and Oatmeal for breakfast got stuck. If it was

a

> > painful stuck - it was the end of the meal for me. Sometimes it

is

> > just that I feel it go down so the next bite I make smaller and

chew

> > longer.

>

> Sticky things like oatmeal, cream of wheat, egg salad, and so forth

> always cause me problems. It is the stickiness unless you really

make

> the cereal runny. And for me, eggs are always troublesome

regardless

> of how they're prepared.

>

> As Sandy noted recently, most of us have trouble with dry meats like

> chicken, turkey, and pork. Of course it depends on how they're

> prepared. But as far as chicken and turkey go, I've turned from a

> " breast man " into a " thigh man " . The dark meat is generally juicier

> and easier for me to handle.

>

> --

> Best regards,

> Dan mailto:honu@...

>

November 26, 2007

Hello cindywebb1667,

Monday, November 26, 2007, 9:26:07 AM, you wrote:

> When you say 'cause you problems' do you mean you get stuck?

Sticky foods are sticky, and always will be. When you're " correctly

filled " (in my opinion, and my doctor's) sticky stuff will stick...and

not go through well at all. Another one is pasta, unless it has a LOT

of sauce on it to " lubricate it down the pipe " . Of course I shouldn't

be eating pasta anyway. Same for rice, particularly the typical

" chinese restaurant sticky rice " .

You'll learn that there are things to avoid, or to prepare

differently. Once in a long while I have oatmeal or cream of wheat

(which are both pretty good and healthy foods) if my wife makes it

VERY runny. Not quite able to sip through a straw, but close.

> Perhaps I dont' need an unfill - prehaps I just need to prepare foods

> differently.

And change some of what you're eating.

Remember that some of us can probably eat sticky oatmeal all day, some

can't. Same for almost any other food you can mention.

--

Best regards,

Dan mailto:honu@...

November 26, 2007

Thanks Dan,

I think I'll just try to eat and cook differently until my next Doc

appointment - keep good records of what is happening and leave it to

the Doc to decide what to do.

I've had a really hard time shedding my old eating habits of too

much - too fast - for too long.

So...just like there are only three fill levels: not enough - just

right - too much............there are only three 'right' ways to eat

and prepare food and they are different for everyone.

Preparation of food

too loose (like soups)

too sticky or dry

just right

Eating speed

too slow

too fast

just right

Size of bites

too small

too big

just right

Who knew something as simple as eating could become so complicated !

>

> > When you say 'cause you problems' do you mean you get stuck?

>

> Sticky foods are sticky, and always will be. When you're " correctly

> filled " (in my opinion, and my doctor's) sticky stuff will

stick...and

> not go through well at all. Another one is pasta, unless it has a

LOT

> of sauce on it to " lubricate it down the pipe " . Of course I

shouldn't

> be eating pasta anyway. Same for rice, particularly the typical

> " chinese restaurant sticky rice " .

>

> You'll learn that there are things to avoid, or to prepare

> differently. Once in a long while I have oatmeal or cream of wheat

> (which are both pretty good and healthy foods) if my wife makes it

> VERY runny. Not quite able to sip through a straw, but close.

>

> > Perhaps I dont' need an unfill - prehaps I just need to prepare

foods

> > differently.

>

> And change some of what you're eating.

>

> Remember that some of us can probably eat sticky oatmeal all day,

some

> can't. Same for almost any other food you can mention.

>

> --

> Best regards,

> Dan mailto:honu@...

>

November 26, 2007

actually i think that when you think about it, the goldilocks

approach is pretty good.

thanks for pointing it out cindy!!!!

At 02:02 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:

>Thanks Dan,

>

>I think I'll just try to eat and cook differently until my next Doc

>appointment - keep good records of what is happening and leave it to

>the Doc to decide what to do.

>

>I've had a really hard time shedding my old eating habits of too

>much - too fast - for too long.

>

>So...just like there are only three fill levels: not enough - just

>right - too much............there are only three 'right' ways to eat

>and prepare food and they are different for everyone.

>

>Preparation of food

>

>too loose (like soups)

>too sticky or dry

>just right

>

>Eating speed

>

>too slow

>too fast

>just right

>

>Size of bites

>

>too small

>too big

>just right

>

>Who knew something as simple as eating could become so complicated !

>

> >

> > > When you say 'cause you problems' do you mean you get stuck?

> >

> > Sticky foods are sticky, and always will be. When you're " correctly

> > filled " (in my opinion, and my doctor's) sticky stuff will

>stick...and

> > not go through well at all. Another one is pasta, unless it has a

>LOT

> > of sauce on it to " lubricate it down the pipe " . Of course I

>shouldn't

> > be eating pasta anyway. Same for rice, particularly the typical

> > " chinese restaurant sticky rice " .

> >

> > You'll learn that there are things to avoid, or to prepare

> > differently. Once in a long while I have oatmeal or cream of wheat

> > (which are both pretty good and healthy foods) if my wife makes it

> > VERY runny. Not quite able to sip through a straw, but close.

> >

> > > Perhaps I dont' need an unfill - prehaps I just need to prepare

>foods

> > > differently.

> >

> > And change some of what you're eating.

> >

> > Remember that some of us can probably eat sticky oatmeal all day,

>some

> > can't. Same for almost any other food you can mention.

> >

> > --

> > Best regards,

> > Dan mailto:honu@...

> >

>

November 26, 2007

Hello cindy,

I like your extension of the three bears analogy to the other things.

I'll have to remember those.

dan

Monday, November 26, 2007, 12:02:59 PM, you wrote:

> So...just like there are only three fill levels: not enough - just

> right - too much............there are only three 'right' ways to eat

> and prepare food and they are different for everyone.

> Preparation of food

> too loose (like soups)

> too sticky or dry

> just right

> Eating speed

> too slow

> too fast

> just right

> Size of bites

> too small

> too big

> just right

>

> Who knew something as simple as eating could become so complicated !

--

Best regards,

Dan mailto:honu@...

November 26, 2007

Thanks Sandy I do hear you and understand. I was dong very well after my fill in

July having no trouble being an almost perfect bandster. Then it seemed to go

away or not be there anymore and now I am having a hard time. I get hungry way

to soon. I know I need another fill and look forward to being in the zone again

lol. I know the numbers don't mean anything I just say pump it up Doc we need