Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hi I would like to give my " case history " as a means of introduction and see what advice you guys can give me or what experience you can share. In the past 6 months I've had 4 " episodes " of severe burning heartburn pain under my ribs, across my back and across my right shoulder blade. The first time I ended up in emergency because the NHS 24 (I'm in the UK!) helpline were worried I was having a heart attack. I have ME/CFS and get the classic adrenal stress out of breath thing when I'm stressed. I was given lamprazole and a painkiller that worked a treat, almost immediately. I was tested for helicobacter but this came back negative. My brother had helicobacter and my father suffered from ulcers (in the days before the helicobacter association was made) so I fully expected that would be the problem. I've since been told that the test should be done without any antacids in the system for at least 2 weeks and I was taking lamprazole at the time. Can anyone confirm this? The second time I was advised, again by NHS 24, to take the remainder of the lamprazole I had left and painkillers. The third time was the worst - I wanted to die; neither the lamprazole nor painkillers got rid of it though it lessened enough for me to lie down and rest rather than trying to hold my ME/CFS body upright!! - the pain subsided after the usual 3 or 4 hours but resumed as soon as I ate something (I thought eggs would be easy to digest). My GP had me admitted to hospital on the correct suspicion of gallstones. An ultrasound scan the next day showed " gravel " . I do remember the radiologist telling the nurse who'd accompanied me to come and see how one of the stones was near the pancreas (at the time I thought she said in the pancreas) but the two hospital results I've received since say there was no stone in the duct. I overheard the radiologist tell the doctor that my pancreas was " very bright " and I asked for clarification. I was kept in hospital for 3 nights altogether because my amylase was raised in the blood test on admission though was lower the next day. My GP has since told me that it wasn't incredibly high but high enough for them to want to keep an eye on it and in keeping with the gallstones. While nothing was mentioned to me about my liver while I was in hospital, the most recent letter from the hospital says I had abnormal LFTs (liver function tests, presumably). It's also been clearly stated that I had choleocystitis and pancreatitis. I've been referred to a bigger hospital (I live very rurally) and am still waiting for the appointment after 4 weeks. Local doctors have recommended the gallbladder being removed, of course, but I've also been told that, at nearly 21 stone, it's unlikely they will do the op (I've lost 7 lbs since the hospital stay). I was given lamprazole again by the hospital but my doctor changed the prescription to (the cheaper) omeprazole which coincided with a griping pain in my gut which disappeared when I stopped taking it. I was given the usual advice by the hospital and my GP about low fat diets. My experience has been that only a low carb diet does away with my heartburn. Even a low fat / low GI diet doesn't get rid of it. High fat high carb definitely make it much much worse and I had lapsed from low carb to high fat high carb in the timescale covered by these attacks. Since leaving hospital, I've done as much reading about it on the internet that my ME/CFS impaired brain will allow and came to the firm conclusion that low carb is the way to go. My heartburn, as predicted, has disappeared. However, over the course of about 10 days, I kept lapsing into eating a few high carb foods and a low level heartburn returned and culminated in the 4th attack last Monday. This time it wasn't as bad as before (or perhaps I'm getting used to them!) but lasted over 36 hours, fluctuating in severity, but it was mainly worse for the first 12 or so hours. For a couple of days afterwards my stomach felt like it had a brick in it! I've also suffered from halitosis for the past year, something that has been really bothering me. This is NOT ketosis induced smelly breath through low carbing as I still had it when I was no longer low carbing. My tongue is coated and never feels fresh. Are these signs of gallbladder and/or liver problems? Ok - to my questions. As I have only gravel in my gallbladder, is it so necessary for me to do a flush? Before this latest attack I would have asked if it was possible for me to get by without the op and without flushing but with just controlling it with my diet. I would still like to know this as I feel the attack was brought on my the occasional high carb food (which are absolutely off limits now!). Is it generally accepted that we have to follow a low fat diet now, in order not to aggravate the gallbladder? I'm trying to avoid excessively high fat in my low carb diet, just the fat that comes with the food (if you see what I mean!) but it is and needs to be higher fat than a low fat diet. If I do go for a flush, do I need to use epsom salts, as it's only gravel that I have? I've felt I could cope with the fresh grapefruit juice and olive oil flush. I honestly feel concerned about ingesting such a high level of oil and fear it'll bring on severe heartburn - or am I missing something? What is the recommended diet for liver and gallbladder health? Does low carbing fit with most people's understanding about what's good for this condition? (I found this site last week and was delighted to read the following extract about carbs: http://www.scdiet.org/7archives/lutz/lutz7.html Distressing heartburn is often the first symptom to disappear following withdrawal of carbohydrates from the diet. However severe, and even if made worse by factors like the back-flow of gastric juice into the esophagus in hiatal hernia, the chances of success are good. If patients come back with the complaint that the diet is no longer effective and their heartburn has returned, a closer look usually reveals that some carbohydrates have again crept into the diet. Or a gastrointestinal infection cam be suspected - and treated. In some way carbohydrates appear to disturb acid regulation, i.e. the normal state of affairs in which acid is produced by the stomach only when it has something to digest. Only a sick stomach produces digestive juices when empty. This so-called 'fasting secretion' is the reason for the auto-digestion seen in gastric ulcers, or at least in ulcers near the pyloric sphincter, the duodenum or at the artificial exit of a resected stomach. Excess gastric acid is responsible for or provides the right conditions for, for development of a gastric ulcer, which is deducible from the fact that a typical gastric ulcer is found only in sites where contact with gastric juice is possible.) I also suspect I have candida and/or leaky gut (still to research the latter enough to make a decision). I'm sure I'll think of more questions but I hope you guys can help me with this lot in the meantime! Thanks in advance. Alison God bless Give food to the hungry every day with a simple click, at no cost to you. Visit http://www.thehungersite.com today! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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