i am having my gallbaldder taken out next tuesday

[Guest guest]

I have had my gallbladder removed. I wish I never did that. I now

spend most of my day in the bathroom with diarrhea. The diarrhea is

caused by the liver dripping bile as the gall bladder was there to catch

the bile and store it until it needed to be used for fats. It now drips

continuously into the intestine and causes diarrhea.

Yep, I had mine out and I have the same problem. I'm taking Beta Plus now,

which seems to help some, and when I go out to eat or whatever, to avoid

being embarrassed because it's like IBS big time, I now take one Caltrate with

my

meal. It slows it down so I can have a bit of a life. However, I don't

take my Cod Liver Oil if I do because the Caltrate has the Vit D in it too! I

found out about the Caltrate from a person who had tried everything with IBS,

even prescription, and nothing worked except the Caltrate. I can't even

enjoy salads like I used to because the lettuce is very difficult to digest

with

no GB. It just makes me sick! I love salads.

Susie

[Guest guest]

i just read your post and i have IBS. what does Caltrate do exactly?

I just take it with my meal and it slows up the diarrhea really good. I

guess if you took too many throughout the day, it would constipate you. But

the

reason you use Caltrate is because you need calcium carbonate. So don't get

Citracal or whatever the other is. It's the calcium carbonate that slows it

down. It really does work, or it surely does for me, anyway. It's been a

jewel. I was taking immodium and that stuff is not too good for you.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Well, I do not take it every day, only when I go out to eat or like we keep

the Sabbath, I'm gone all day and have lunch at Bible study, so I have to have

something. I've found that it does not upset my stomach at all. Normally

I try to take natural things, but I have to admit that it surely does work

and works great! I have never gotten constipated from it, but it really slows

me down to where I have BMs in the morning before I leave, then I don't have

another one until I'm home at nighttime. Since I have the diarrhea so bad, I

have to have something. Actually in the mornings it's more like I'm

homesteading the potty. I don't mean to be crass, but it's the truth!

Susie

[Guest guest]

i am having my gallbladder taken out tuesday. i am kind of scared. but

the pain is very very bad sometimes. I almost called 911 becouse of

the pain. thoght it gas. what happens after the gallbladder is gone?

thanks

[Guest guest]

I have had my gallbladder removed. I wish I never did that. I now

spend most of my day in the bathroom with diarrhea. The diarrhea is

caused by the liver dripping bile as the gall bladder was there to catch

the bile and store it until it needed to be used for fats. It now drips

continuously into the intestine and causes diarrhea. I still have

gallbladder pain most every day since the operation. Just not the acute

attacks that sent me to emergency. I have been very much better since I

did the gallbladder flushes and master cleanse routine that I did last

summer and the regular cleansing that I have been doing every 3-6

months since. I have still passed stones with no gallbladder so don't

let a Dr tell you that it will fix everything. All it fixed was the

acute attacks. If I knew then what I know now I would not have gotten

my gallbladder out.

I know when to flush when the pain starts to crop back into the middle

of my back radiating to my shoulder blade and arm. It feels like a

classic gallbladder attack that has not gone into full attack mode. The

diarrhea is the so incessant. 20-40 minutes after eating most

anything. You can reduce the diarrhea, but you need to go fat free and

that is very much a health problem waiting to happen, as the liver needs

to be stimulated regularly to keep it in shape or the stones will start

piling up in the liver. You need to change your diet to good fats for

starters. Flax, coconut, and olive oils are very healthy for you and

should be the majority of fat in your diet. Bacon and chocolate will

be most likely a trigger for attacks from experience.

I have heard from many people that have had this surgery and they all

seem to complain about stones still being stuck in the bile duct or that

they have passed stones since losing their gallbladder. Bile is made

in the liver so it stands to reason that stones will be made in the

liver as well.

G Murray

jeffrey wrote:

>i am having my gallbladder taken out tuesday. i am kind of scared. but

>the pain is very very bad sometimes. I almost called 911 becouse of

>the pain. thoght it gas. what happens after the gallbladder is gone?

>

>thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Hi susie

i just read your post and i have IBS. what does Caltrate do exactly?

thanks!

shefy

Tishri7@... wrote:

I have had my gallbladder removed. I wish I never did that. I now

spend most of my day in the bathroom with diarrhea. The diarrhea is

caused by the liver dripping bile as the gall bladder was there to catch

the bile and store it until it needed to be used for fats. It now drips

continuously into the intestine and causes diarrhea.

Yep, I had mine out and I have the same problem. I'm taking Beta Plus now,

which seems to help some, and when I go out to eat or whatever, to avoid

being embarrassed because it's like IBS big time, I now take one Caltrate with

my

meal. It slows it down so I can have a bit of a life. However, I don't

take my Cod Liver Oil if I do because the Caltrate has the Vit D in it too! I

found out about the Caltrate from a person who had tried everything with IBS,

even prescription, and nothing worked except the Caltrate. I can't even

enjoy salads like I used to because the lettuce is very difficult to digest

with

no GB. It just makes me sick! I love salads.

Susie

[Guest guest]

don't do it. i went to the er many times bc of gb pain. do one flush.

jeffrey <tootal2@...> wrote: i am having my gallbladder taken out

tuesday. i am kind of scared. but

the pain is very very bad sometimes. I almost called 911 becouse of

the pain. thoght it gas. what happens after the gallbladder is gone?

thanks

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Caltrate is calcium carbonate. It works to slow sown the intestinal

process. It essentiallty works to constipate the regular person. I

have been told by the pharmacists that I work with that is why you see

calcium and magnesium together in the same mix. The calcium will

constipate you so they add magnesium to cause things to loosed up

essentially cancelling out the calcium. I don't believe that is the

only reason magnesium is in the calcium- magnesium mixes, but hey what

do I know, I don't have a pharmacy degree. Calcium also is beneficial

for cramping in mucles. I do not know if it has any bearing in the

intestinal muscles.

Aside from that I would not recomend caltrate as a source of calcium as

it is in the carbonate form and made from cheap sea creatures and

thought to be contaminated. I do recomend citrate if the stomach

allows.(it can irritate the stomach more). It is a personal opinion to

stay away from caltrate other than it is much more expensive, and

pharmaceuticlly made as opposed to being made from natural ingredients.

G Murray

P.S. I can not digest any raw vegetables much any more either.

shefy gupta wrote:

>Hi susie

>

>i just read your post and i have IBS. what does Caltrate do exactly?

>

>thanks!

>shefy

>

>Tishri7@... wrote:

>

>

> I have had my gallbladder removed. I wish I never did that. I now

> spend most of my day in the bathroom with diarrhea. The diarrhea is

> caused by the liver dripping bile as the gall bladder was there to catch

> the bile and store it until it needed to be used for fats. It now drips

> continuously into the intestine and causes diarrhea.

>

>

> Yep, I had mine out and I have the same problem. I'm taking Beta Plus now,

> which seems to help some, and when I go out to eat or whatever, to avoid

> being embarrassed because it's like IBS big time, I now take one Caltrate with

my

> meal. It slows it down so I can have a bit of a life. However, I don't

> take my Cod Liver Oil if I do because the Caltrate has the Vit D in it too!

I

> found out about the Caltrate from a person who had tried everything with IBS,

> even prescription, and nothing worked except the Caltrate. I can't even

> enjoy salads like I used to because the lettuce is very difficult to digest

with

> no GB. It just makes me sick! I love salads.

>

> Susie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzie,

I see you say only calcium carbonate. It is the calcium that causes

the constipation to my knowledge. I have been told that it does not

matter what form it is in as it will all cause it. Other forms are much

better for you.

I would never take anything that the conventional doctor would

prescribe. Anything pharmaceutically made is usually not a good place

to start.

G Murray

Tishri7@... wrote:

>

>

>

>i just read your post and i have IBS. what does Caltrate do exactly?

>

>

>

>

>

>I just take it with my meal and it slows up the diarrhea really good. I

>guess if you took too many throughout the day, it would constipate you. But

the

>reason you use Caltrate is because you need calcium carbonate. So don't get

>Citracal or whatever the other is. It's the calcium carbonate that slows it

>down. It really does work, or it surely does for me, anyway. It's been a

>jewel. I was taking immodium and that stuff is not too good for you.

>Susie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow where do you live that it costs 11,000?? Mine was maybe a fourth of

that at most.

Belskis wrote:

>Then the hospitals get there $11,0000 and you still do not

>understand how your body works and and how to maintain your liver

>and gallbladder or yet to assume responsibiltiy for your health.

>Your digestion may never be the same but you may get relief from

>your gallbladder attacks. If you continue the

>diet that caused the problems you may have future problems later

>in life but the doctors will be glad to take your money for

>testing and may then remove gallstones from you even without you

>haveing a gallbladder. if you read the book food is your best

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Randi:

I'm sorry that I haven't gotten back to you sooner.

No, I don't know why we have problems with salads and some raw veggies. But

I don't think it's just us. Years before I had my GB out, I did a little

survey in calling some friends that I used to work at a hospital with. One was

a dear friend who had her GB removed the old-fashioned way because they

couldn't do it the easier way. Well, she warned me about getting it removed

because of all the digestion problems it causes. And she said, I can't even

eat

salads anymore because lettuce tears me up, I can't go out to eat anymore

because of diarrhea after a meal, etc., if I would have known this, I would

have tried harder to keep it.

Thing is, Randi, I didn't have as many digestion problems at first in the

first couple of months right after my surgery. And here's another thing that's

just plain weird to me. About 2 months after my surgery, well, probably

started in late August in 2003, I started having bad allergy problems. For a

long time in those few months I blamed it on the ragweed because it was the

worst that year it's ever been where we live out in the country. I was choking

up, etc., all the time. Then since that time--even now--I'm still having

those problems. I've started thinking lately that it's because of no GB.

But I have learned now with eating because of the digestive problems, to

just eat small amounts. That's about all I can do anyway now. Is that how you

are? It's my understanding that it's because of the constant bile drip that

it really fills us up.

Oh, and here's something. Recently my son-in-law, who is in the Army and at

Ft. Hood, had to have a large cyst removed on his tailbone, which it was

really, really gross. Such a deep hole he had when it was removed. So my

daughter goes to the hospital right after his surgery to help him get ready to

go

home. It was a day surgery. Anyway, in the bed next to my son-in-law, my

daughter overhead a doc talking to another Army guy who was fixing to have his

GB removed. The Army guy said, Doc, can I eat anything afterwards? The doc

replied, Sure, you'll be able to eat anything! My daughter, because of

knowing how I am, thought, yeah, sure, maybe two teaspoons at a time or maybe

not

that much.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Hi Susie,

I also have trouble digesting salads and some greens, especially at

night since I had my gb removed. Do you have any idea why? I know

the gb helps to digest fats, but I'm wondering why it would be

difficult to digest greens without it. Actually, I have to be more

careful now about so many things I eat. I think I was better off

with the gb attacks, than having to live like this!!

Randi

I can't even enjoy salads like I used to because the lettuce is

very difficult to digest with no GB. It just makes me sick! I

love salads.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Can the calcium in milk cause constipation? I drink a lot of 1% milk..I have

been having constipation for almost 3 months with no cause...maybe IBS... But

I've also drank a lot of milk my whole life with no problems....?!?!?!

shefy

G & K Murray <kgtnm@...> wrote: Hi Suzie,

I see you say only calcium carbonate. It is the calcium that causes

the constipation to my knowledge. I have been told that it does not

matter what form it is in as it will all cause it. Other forms are much

better for you.

I would never take anything that the conventional doctor would

prescribe. Anything pharmaceutically made is usually not a good place

to start.

G Murray

Tishri7@... wrote:

>

>

>

>i just read your post and i have IBS. what does Caltrate do exactly?

>

>

>

>

>

>I just take it with my meal and it slows up the diarrhea really good. I

>guess if you took too many throughout the day, it would constipate you. But

the

>reason you use Caltrate is because you need calcium carbonate. So don't get

>Citracal or whatever the other is. It's the calcium carbonate that slows it

>down. It really does work, or it surely does for me, anyway. It's been a

>jewel. I was taking immodium and that stuff is not too good for you.

>Susie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

drink water and lots of it.

shefy gupta <shefy7@...> wrote: Can the calcium in milk cause

constipation? I drink a lot of 1% milk..I have been having constipation for

almost 3 months with no cause...maybe IBS... But I've also drank a lot of milk

my whole life with no problems....?!?!?!

shefy

G & K Murray <kgtnm@...> wrote: Hi Suzie,

I see you say only calcium carbonate. It is the calcium that causes

the constipation to my knowledge. I have been told that it does not

matter what form it is in as it will all cause it. Other forms are much

better for you.

I would never take anything that the conventional doctor would

prescribe. Anything pharmaceutically made is usually not a good place

to start.

G Murray

Tishri7@... wrote:

>

>

>

>i just read your post and i have IBS. what does Caltrate do exactly?

>

>

>

>

>

>I just take it with my meal and it slows up the diarrhea really good. I

>guess if you took too many throughout the day, it would constipate you. But

the

>reason you use Caltrate is because you need calcium carbonate. So don't get

>Citracal or whatever the other is. It's the calcium carbonate that slows it

>down. It really does work, or it surely does for me, anyway. It's been a

>jewel. I was taking immodium and that stuff is not too good for you.

>Susie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not me lol. I would not go back to gb attacks for nothing!! I'd give

up chocolate first or any other favorite food! lol I have, as some have

said, trouble with diarrhea but heck I will even put up with that over

the GB pain I had! I have no problem with salads. In fact I eat more of

them now I guess it just depends on the person.

> Hi Susie,

> I also have trouble digesting salads and some greens, especially at

> night since I had my gb removed. Do you have any idea why? I know

> the gb helps to digest fats, but I'm wondering why it would be

> difficult to digest greens without it. Actually, I have to be more

> careful now about so many things I eat. I think I was better off

> with the gb attacks, than having to live like this!!

>

[Guest guest]

You know my sister and mother are like that. They had no trouble

after gall bladder surgery. They eat what ever the want. I can eat

most anything but I have to be careful not to eat to much of certain

foods. LIke no pigging out on fried chicken or other fried foods..

Which is a good thing in a way I guess.

>Oh, and here's something. Recently my son-in-law, who is in the

Army and at

>Ft. Hood, had to have a large cyst removed on his tailbone, which it

was

>really, really gross. Such a deep hole he had when it was

removed. So my

>daughter goes to the hospital right after his surgery to help him

get ready to go

>home. It was a day surgery. Anyway, in the bed next to my son-in-

law, my

>daughter overhead a doc talking to another Army guy who was fixing

to have his

>GB removed. The Army guy said, Doc, can I eat anything

afterwards? The doc

>replied, Sure, you'll be able to eat anything! My daughter,

because of

>knowing how I am, thought, yeah, sure, maybe two teaspoons at a

time or maybe not

>that much.

>

>Susie

>

[Guest guest]

Then the hospitals get there $11,0000 and you still do not

understand how your body works and and how to maintain your liver

and gallbladder or yet to assume responsibiltiy for your health.

Your digestion may never be the same but you may get relief from

your gallbladder attacks. If you continue the

diet that caused the problems you may have future problems later

in life but the doctors will be glad to take your money for

testing and may then remove gallstones from you even without you

haveing a gallbladder. if you read the book food is your best

medicine by Henry G.Bieller MD you may understand that gallbladder

attacks are mostly caused by acidic bile created by your poor diet

understanding and habits mostly high protein (meat), cooked

starches , sugar, sugar substitutes , pop, malt liquer , modified food

starch , partialy hydrogenated oils cooked instead of raw

vegetables. and also prescription drugs. If you have faith you

may understand that by reverseing what caused the problem your body

can heal and repair itself given the chance to but that is not the

right choice for those that do not take responsibility for there

health and continue in eating unnatural non food based matter.

jeffrey wrote:

> i am having my gallbladder taken out tuesday. i am kind of scared. but

> the pain is very very bad sometimes. I almost called 911 becouse of

> the pain. thoght it gas. what happens after the gallbladder is gone?

>

> thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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diarea is caused because your body is trying to dump out bad bile into

the intestines or to clean out the intestines so they are able to

absorb food

diarea is actually a form of constipation because it is caused when

you intestines are not able to absorb food , that means an obese or

highly toxic person

can actually be starving to death and the more they eat the more they

are starving themselves because they are not able to absorb food that is

why they are ever hungry and can never get enough food. Colon cleanse

can do wonders as well as some juice fasting for 7-14-21- or 40 days

to detoxe the intestines and allow them to heal so they are able to

absorb food without allowing harmful toxins to pass through (IBS).

It is amazing how healthy clean intestines changes a persons

appetite. Besides that it is much better to absorb food that is 2

hours old then 7 years old so cleaning the intestines with an

intestinal formula can

do miracles.

G & K Murray wrote:

> Caltrate is calcium carbonate. It works to slow sown the intestinal

> process. It essentiallty works to constipate the regular person. I

> have been told by the pharmacists that I work with that is why you see

> calcium and magnesium together in the same mix. The calcium will

> constipate you so they add magnesium to cause things to loosed up

> essentially cancelling out the calcium. I don't believe that is the

> only reason magnesium is in the calcium- magnesium mixes, but hey what

> do I know, I don't have a pharmacy degree. Calcium also is beneficial

> for cramping in mucles. I do not know if it has any bearing in the

> intestinal muscles.

>

> Aside from that I would not recomend caltrate as a source of calcium as

> it is in the carbonate form and made from cheap sea creatures and

> thought to be contaminated. I do recomend citrate if the stomach

> allows.(it can irritate the stomach more). It is a personal opinion to

> stay away from caltrate other than it is much more expensive, and

> pharmaceuticlly made as opposed to being made from natural ingredients.

>

> G Murray

>

> P.S. I can not digest any raw vegetables much any more either.

>

> shefy gupta wrote:

>

> >Hi susie

> >

> >i just read your post and i have IBS. what does Caltrate do exactly?

> >

> >thanks!

> >shefy

> >

> >Tishri7@... wrote:

> >

> >

> > I have had my gallbladder removed. I wish I never did that. I now

> > spend most of my day in the bathroom with diarrhea. The diarrhea is

> > caused by the liver dripping bile as the gall bladder was there to

> catch

> > the bile and store it until it needed to be used for fats. It now

> drips

> > continuously into the intestine and causes diarrhea.

> >

> >

> > Yep, I had mine out and I have the same problem. I'm taking Beta

> Plus now,

> > which seems to help some, and when I go out to eat or whatever, to

> avoid

> > being embarrassed because it's like IBS big time, I now take one

> Caltrate with my

> > meal. It slows it down so I can have a bit of a life. However, I

> don't

> > take my Cod Liver Oil if I do because the Caltrate has the Vit D in

> it too! I

> > found out about the Caltrate from a person who had tried everything

> with IBS,

> > even prescription, and nothing worked except the Caltrate. I can't

> even

> > enjoy salads like I used to because the lettuce is very difficult

> to digest with

> > no GB. It just makes me sick! I love salads.

> >

> > Susie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>>It's always great to hear from you. You and all the folks here are

wonderful. I went into a bad depression after the gb surgery and I

try to fight it as much as I can. All the great people here like

you really do help me feel supported.

Thanks so much, Randi. I'm glad that I can be of some kind of help on here

even if I don't have a GB anymore. And I don't know why some of us have this

problem and others don't who have had surgery. It's puzzling to me. I'm

glad that they don't have these problems, though. I surely don't understand

about the raw veggies either. I have found that I can deal with them when I

juice them, which I need to be doing again. It would probably help me a ton!

In my honest opinion, I think that doctors need to start really researching

this and start helping people do flushes. What better way to do it than a

controlled way? I never did have any emergencies in doing the flushes, but I

have heard of others who did. Perhaps their GB was packed too full of stones

or something to be flushing, I don't know. No joke! They need to research

this. Most doctors just laugh at you when you say you did flushes, or when I

was in the ER, the ultrasound guy was really, really mean to me. I'll never

forget that either. The ERCP doctor accused me of witchcraft because of the

stuff we drink to do the cleanses: olive oil, Epsom Salts and grapefruit juice.

I don't know if I ever told anyone this. I was so dopey from the drugs and

sick and he was accusing me of witchcraft. What a narrow, sick mind some of

these guys have, plus you can " arrogant " to the list.

Well, I'd better go. I'm going to rest then get ready for bed.

Take care,

Susie

[Guest guest]

Hi Susie. Thanks for writing. Sorry to hear about your son-in-

law's surgery. I hope he is okay. That is something about your

son's roommate in the hospital. I wish I had your daughter in the

room with me when I was about to have my gb removed. I would have

checked myself out of the hospital immediately. It kills me that

the docs are telling people they can eat whatever they want after

surgery. That is such a lie and so unfair.

You are right - eating small amounts seems to help. Also, eating

late at night is bad... but I think that even goes for people with

gb's... because the body can't digest well while it's sleeping. I

still can't figure out why greens are hard to eat now. (Raw veggies

are tough for a lot of people, even w/gbs.) Also, I now find eggs

hard to digest without a gb.

I would feel better about this whole thing if there was something or

someone out there who could convince me that my gb really needed to

be removed. I, like you, had stones stuck in the bile duct with

pancreatitis. I know it's very dangerous, but they removed the

stuck stones in the duct, so I still don't get why they had to

remove the gb. I think it was to prevent future occurrrences, but

it doesn't sit well with me. They didn't recommend anything else

like lithotripsy, flushing, etc. (They actually laughed at me when

I mentioned flushing.)

About your allergies, I haven't heard about any relation to gb

removal. I, too, am allergic to ragweed and August is a tough time

for me. I would imagine that the body is somewhat weakened after gb

removal surgery, so maybe that makes it harder for the immune system

to fight against allergic reactions??

It's always great to hear from you. You and all the folks here are

wonderful. I went into a bad depression after the gb surgery and I

try to fight it as much as I can. All the great people here like

you really do help me feel supported.

Best of health to you,

Randi

>

> Hi, Randi:

>

> I'm sorry that I haven't gotten back to you sooner.

>

> No, I don't know why we have problems with salads and some raw

veggies. But

> I don't think it's just us. Years before I had my GB out, I did

a little

> survey in calling some friends that I used to work at a hospital

with. One was

> a dear friend who had her GB removed the old-fashioned way

because they

> couldn't do it the easier way. Well, she warned me about getting

it removed

> because of all the digestion problems it causes. And she said, I

can't even eat

> salads anymore because lettuce tears me up, I can't go out to

eat anymore

> because of diarrhea after a meal, etc., if I would have known

this, I would

> have tried harder to keep it.

>

> Thing is, Randi, I didn't have as many digestion problems at first

in the

> first couple of months right after my surgery. And here's another

thing that's

> just plain weird to me. About 2 months after my surgery, well,

probably

> started in late August in 2003, I started having bad allergy

problems. For a

> long time in those few months I blamed it on the ragweed because

it was the

> worst that year it's ever been where we live out in the country.

I was choking

> up, etc., all the time. Then since that time--even now--I'm

still having

> those problems. I've started thinking lately that it's because

of no GB.

>

> But I have learned now with eating because of the digestive

problems, to

> just eat small amounts. That's about all I can do anyway now.

Is that how you

> are? It's my understanding that it's because of the constant

bile drip that

> it really fills us up.

>

> Oh, and here's something. Recently my son-in-law, who is in the

Army and at

> Ft. Hood, had to have a large cyst removed on his tailbone, which

it was

> really, really gross. Such a deep hole he had when it was

removed. So my

> daughter goes to the hospital right after his surgery to help him

get ready to go

> home. It was a day surgery. Anyway, in the bed next to my son-

in-law, my

> daughter overhead a doc talking to another Army guy who was

fixing to have his

> GB removed. The Army guy said, Doc, can I eat anything

afterwards? The doc

> replied, Sure, you'll be able to eat anything! My daughter,

because of

> knowing how I am, thought, yeah, sure, maybe two teaspoons at a

time or maybe not

> that much.

>

> Susie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I feel a little better after reading your post. It is

comforting to know that at least some are happier after the

surgery. It gives me hope. )

Best of health to you!!

> > Hi Susie,

> > I also have trouble digesting salads and some greens, especially

at

> > night since I had my gb removed. Do you have any idea why? I

know

> > the gb helps to digest fats, but I'm wondering why it would be

> > difficult to digest greens without it. Actually, I have to be

more

> > careful now about so many things I eat. I think I was better

off

> > with the gb attacks, than having to live like this!!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Susie, I agree... there should be a clinic or something where these

flushes could be supervised in case of any problems. That's what

the doctors should be focusing on - ways of preserving the gall

bladder, not removing it. But, I guess there are bigger bucks to be

made with surgery than in flushing... or as your doctor would

say, " witchcraft " . WHAT NERVE!!! Can't stand such arrogance!!!

BTW... don't know if this will help, but I wrote to the Oprah

Winfrey show about how many docs don't inform patients about side

effects of gb surgery... and how they say " you can eat anything

after " . I suggested doing a show on this because so many are

suffering out there. There is actually a condition called " post

cholestectomy syndrome " because of all the complaints. Don't know

if they will ever do a show on it... but I figured Oprah reaches

enough audiences to expose something like this. Oh well, we shall

see!!

All the best...Randi

> In my honest opinion, I think that doctors need to start really

researching

> this and start helping people do flushes. What better way to do

it than a

> controlled way? I never did have any emergencies in doing the

flushes, but I

> have heard of others who did. Perhaps their GB was packed too

full of stones

> or something to be flushing, I don't know. No joke! They need

to research

> this. Most doctors just laugh at you when you say you did

flushes, or when I

> was in the ER, the ultrasound guy was really, really mean to me.

I'll never

> forget that either. The ERCP doctor accused me of witchcraft

because of the

> stuff we drink to do the cleanses: olive oil, Epsom Salts and

grapefruit juice.

> I don't know if I ever told anyone this. I was so dopey from

the drugs and

> sick and he was accusing me of witchcraft. What a narrow, sick

mind some of

> these guys have, plus you can " arrogant " to the list.

>

> Well, I'd better go. I'm going to rest then get ready for bed.

>

> Take care,

> Susie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thyroid groups have been writing to Ophah for years and she has yet

to address the GROWING problem of thyroid!!!!!!!!!!

fyi---digestion problems equal possible thyroid problems especially

with digestion of foods!!!!! Many gallbladder people have low

thyroid.

take the Broda temp. test.

before you get out of bed in the AM---take temp---under 98 possible

thyroid---do it for a week---continued under 98 ---under 97---for

sure look into getting free t3, free t4 and antibody tests for

thyroid disease.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/thyroiddiseases.html

http://www.thyroidmanager.org/

>

> > In my honest opinion, I think that doctors need to start really

> researching

> > this and start helping people do flushes. What better way to do

> it than a

> > controlled way? I never did have any emergencies in doing the

> flushes, but I

> > have heard of others who did. Perhaps their GB was packed too

> full of stones

> > or something to be flushing, I don't know. No joke! They need

> to research

> > this. Most doctors just laugh at you when you say you did

> flushes, or when I

> > was in the ER, the ultrasound guy was really, really mean to

me.

> I'll never

> > forget that either. The ERCP doctor accused me of witchcraft

> because of the

> > stuff we drink to do the cleanses: olive oil, Epsom Salts and

> grapefruit juice.

> > I don't know if I ever told anyone this. I was so dopey from

> the drugs and

> > sick and he was accusing me of witchcraft. What a narrow, sick

> mind some of

> > these guys have, plus you can " arrogant " to the list.

> >

> > Well, I'd better go. I'm going to rest then get ready for bed.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Susie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I have a low thyroid and had my galllader removed. the gallbladder

pain went away after i started on thyroid meds. but 3 weeks later i

was have gallbladder pain. think everyone here should get there

thyroid check

> >

> > > In my honest opinion, I think that doctors need to start really

> > researching

> > > this and start helping people do flushes. What better way to do

> > it than a

> > > controlled way? I never did have any emergencies in doing the

> > flushes, but I

> > > have heard of others who did. Perhaps their GB was packed too

> > full of stones

> > > or something to be flushing, I don't know. No joke! They need

> > to research

> > > this. Most doctors just laugh at you when you say you did

> > flushes, or when I

> > > was in the ER, the ultrasound guy was really, really mean to

> me.

> > I'll never

> > > forget that either. The ERCP doctor accused me of witchcraft

> > because of the

> > > stuff we drink to do the cleanses: olive oil, Epsom Salts and

> > grapefruit juice.

> > > I don't know if I ever told anyone this. I was so dopey from

> > the drugs and

> > > sick and he was accusing me of witchcraft. What a narrow, sick

> > mind some of

> > > these guys have, plus you can " arrogant " to the list.

> > >

> > > Well, I'd better go. I'm going to rest then get ready for bed.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Susie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I agree with you. I have had problems with low thyroid and I've

always had digestive troubles. I wonder if the low thyroid slows

down the function of the gall bladder. Then again, the thyroid can

also affect the menstrual cycle and other hormones, and estrogen

definitely can slow down gb function, leading to stones.

Thanks for the info about the test. My blood tests always varied...

if it was low, they'd give me Synthroid, then they'd say it was too

high...and take me off...then put me back on...etc. I finally took

myself off Synthroid because I was tired of the roller coaster. It

seems that each doctor tests for thyroid problems differently. It

would probably be good for anyone w/gb problems to do the test you

mention below.

--- In gallstones , " tina83862 " <tina83862@y...>

wrote:

>

> thyroid groups have been writing to Ophah for years and she has

yet

> to address the GROWING problem of thyroid!!!!!!!!!!

>

> fyi---digestion problems equal possible thyroid problems

especially

> with digestion of foods!!!!! Many gallbladder people have low

> thyroid.

>

> take the Broda temp. test.

>

> before you get out of bed in the AM---take temp---under 98

possible

> thyroid---do it for a week---continued under 98 ---under 97---for

> sure look into getting free t3, free t4 and antibody tests for

> thyroid disease.

>

>

> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/thyroiddiseases.html

>

> http://www.thyroidmanager.org/

>

>

>

>

>