Re: Magnesium/Protein Type

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HI Zoe, I have Mercola's book where he discusses the Metabolic Type Plan and he doesn't mention this about the Protein Types. Where did you read this? Thanks and Love, PamelaZoe & <ZOEA@...> wrote: On the metabolic typing diet (e.g., Mercola), the Protein Types are discouraged from taking magnesium (and encouraged to get calcium from foods). Zoe __________________________________________________

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>From: Pamela <calblonde1@...>

>HI Zoe,

>

> I have Mercola's book where he discusses the Metabolic Type Plan and he

>doesn't mention this about the Protein Types. Where did you read this?

He doesn't talk about the protein types in his book? I bought the

" Metabolic Type Diet " book from his website, but can't remember the author.

There are 3 types of metabolizers -

Protein type

Carbohydrate Type

Mixed

An older catergory was -

Fast metabolizers (oxidizers) = protein type

Slow oxidizer = carbohdrate Type

And this explains to me, why someone like my wife can eat a little food and

get a lot of energy. Also, whiy it's difficult to lose weight with a

standard American diet. The slow metabolizers, have slow metabolism and the

food they eat can keep them going for hours. (And if she eats sugar or

flour, the energy accelerates. Usually, in a non-useful way.)

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Pamela, I can't remember where I first read it. I recently took Mercola's metabolic type test and ended up on his metabolic type forum. A naturopath named Glen moderates the forum and answers the questions, and these are typical comments from him:

"I will tell you though that as a protein type generally too much potassium or magnesium can push you out of balance so do not overdo either of these per your metabolic type. "

"I wouldn't say that you are going to harm yourself with the supplements, just don't take too much magnesium because this does push protein types out of balance."

"While I am not an expert on this subject I do know that vitamin C, magnesium, and potassium in larger quantities do push protein types out of balance. "

"The magnesium could be creating an imbalance as a protein type. "

Here is the link for the forum: http://mtforum.mercola.com/forums/default.aspx

(I don't know if the forum is available for everyone or whether you have to have taken the test first.)

Zoe

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From: Pamela

I have Mercola's book where he discusses the Metabolic Type Plan and he doesn't mention this about the Protein Types. Where did you read this?

Zoe & <ZOEA@...> wrote:

On the metabolic typing diet (e.g., Mercola), the Protein Types are discouraged from taking magnesium (and encouraged to get calcium from foods). Zoe

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Dear Zoe (HUGS), Thank you for taking the time to research this for me. I want to take this opportunity to thank you for this wonderful forum you have created! It has been a valuable resource for me. Hope you have the BEST holiday and most prosperous, healthy New Year!! With Appreciation & Much Love, Pamela Zoe & <ZOEA@...> wrote: Pamela, I can't remember where I first read it. I recently took Mercola's metabolic type test and ended up on his metabolic type forum. A naturopath named Glen moderates the forum and answers the questions, and these are typical comments from him: "I will tell you though that as a protein type generally too much potassium or magnesium can push you out of balance so do not overdo either of these per your metabolic type. " "I wouldn't say that you are going to harm yourself with the supplements, just don't take too much magnesium because this does push protein types out of balance." "While I am not an expert on this subject I do know that vitamin C, magnesium, and potassium in larger quantities do push

protein types out of balance. " "The magnesium could be creating an imbalance as a protein type. " Here is the link for the forum: http://mtforum.mercola.com/forums/default.aspx (I don't know if the forum is available for everyone or whether you have to have taken the test first.) Zoe __________________________________________________

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>From: " Zoe & " <ZOEA@...>

> " I will tell you though that as a protein type generally too much

>potassium or magnesium can push you out of balance so do not overdo either

>of these per your metabolic type. "

Hmmmm...

I wonder if it's cortisol that makes us protein (fast oxidizers) or

carbohydrate (slow oxidizers) types?

Potassium isn't good for us with low cortisol either. We have problems

retaining sodium, even though that doesn't always show up on lab work. So,

potassium does push us out of balance.

I hadn't thought about it before, but when I tried to take Lugol's before,

it was usually with Apple Cider Vinegar and honey. So, there was lots of

potassium and magnesium involved. Maybe that's why I had to stop before.

I didn't try that this time, I just take it in water, juice, or milk now,

because I understood from 's " Adrenal Fatigue " that things high

in potassium aren't particularly good for those with low adrenals, so I only

take ACV now when I have a specific reason.

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----- Original Message ----- From: Zoe

>>I recently took Mercola's metabolic type test and ended up on his metabolic type forum. A naturopath named Glen moderates the forum and answers the questions, and these are typical comments from him:"I will tell you though that as a protein type generally too much potassium or magnesium can push you out of balance so do not overdo either of these per your metabolic type. ""I wouldn't say that you are going to harm yourself with the supplements, just don't take too much magnesium because this does push protein types out of balance.""While I am not an expert on this subject I do know that vitamin C, magnesium, and potassium in larger quantities do push protein types out of balance. ""The magnesium could be creating an imbalance as a protein type. "Here is the link for the forum: http://mtforum.mercola.com/forums/default.aspx(I don't know if the forum is available for everyone or whether you have to have taken the test first.)>>

Hi Zoe,

Years ago, Mercola recommended Wolcott's book, The Metabolic Typing Diet. Wolcott goes further than the protein/carb/mixed types. He also looks at 4 homeostatic systems: the autonomic nervous system, the oxidative system, catabolic/anabolic balance and electrolyte balance, and types you in each system. Thus you could be a fast oxidizer, sympathetic dominant, etc. In a chapter called "...Patient Specific Nutrition", Wolcott goes into some detail regarding calcium and magnesium (and other nutrients)--and how they behave in the body depending on the above types. He suggests that they are beneficial or harmful to the different types.

I'm not speaking to the validity of his approach, but it is interesting that he addresses the way different nutrients behave metabolically. Has anybody else read his work?

Dahlia

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Yes, Dahlia, Wolcott's book is fascinating and provides a completely different way to look at nutrition. No longer is any nutrient good or bad in itself. Rather, it is good for some metabolic types and bad for others. How the nutrient works depends on the individual. He gives some fascinating examples of how this works in clinical practice. Unfortunately, I've loaned my copy, so I can't give any quotes. Zoe

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Years ago, Mercola recommended Wolcott's book, The Metabolic Typing Diet. Wolcott goes further than the protein/carb/mixed types. He also looks at 4 homeostatic systems: the autonomic nervous system, the oxidative system, catabolic/anabolic balance and electrolyte balance, and types you in each system. Thus you could be a fast oxidizer, sympathetic dominant, etc. In a chapter called "...Patient Specific Nutrition", Wolcott goes into some detail regarding calcium and magnesium (and other nutrients)--and how they behave in the body depending on the above types. He suggests that they are beneficial or harmful to the different types.

I'm not speaking to the validity of his approach, but it is interesting that he addresses the way different nutrients behave metabolically. Has anybody else read his work?

Dahlia

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Girls, I am completely intrigued! I'm going to go try to find a copy

before Christmas so I can spend the holidays reading it. Thank you so

much for mentioning and describing it. I'm so tired of hearing

blanket statements by docs, this guy sounds like my cup of tea. What

a concept.... everybody's the same, but in different ways!

E

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> Yes, Dahlia, Wolcott's book is fascinating and provides a completely

different way to look at nutrition. No longer is any nutrient good or

bad in itself. Rather, it is good for some metabolic types and bad

for others. How the nutrient works depends on the individual. He

gives some fascinating examples of how this works in clinical

practice. Unfortunately, I've loaned my copy, so I can't give any

quotes. Zoe

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> From: srapp785@...

> Years ago, Mercola recommended Wolcott's book, The

Metabolic Typing Diet. Wolcott goes further than the

protein/carb/mixed types. He also looks at 4 homeostatic systems: the

autonomic nervous system, the oxidative system, catabolic/anabolic

balance and electrolyte balance, and types you in each system. Thus

you could be a fast oxidizer, sympathetic dominant, etc. In a chapter

called " ...Patient Specific Nutrition " , Wolcott goes into some detail

regarding calcium and magnesium (and other nutrients)--and how they

behave in the body depending on the above types. He suggests that

they are beneficial or harmful to the different types.

>

> I'm not speaking to the validity of his approach, but it is

interesting that he addresses the way different nutrients behave

metabolically. Has anybody else read his work?

>

> Dahlia

>

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I would like to suggest readings from the Weston A. Price Foundation on

this subject. Here's a link to an article written by the president,

Sally Fallon, on the page of links referring to matabolic typing:

http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/WestonAPriceFoundation?

q=metabolic+type & sa=Go

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/right_price.html

On Dec 15, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Zoe & wrote:

> Yes, Dahlia, Wolcott's book is fascinating and provides a completely

> different way to look at nutrition.  No longer is any nutrient good or

> bad in itself.  Rather, it is good for some metabolic types and bad

> for others.  How the nutrient works depends on the individual.  He

> gives some fascinating examples of how this works in clinical

> practice.  Unfortunately, I've loaned my copy, so I can't give any

> quotes.  Zoe

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: srapp785@...

>> Years ago, Mercola recommended Wolcott's book, The Metabolic

>> Typing Diet. Wolcott goes further than the protein/carb/mixed types. 

>> He also looks at 4 homeostatic systems: the autonomic nervous system,

>> the oxidative system, catabolic/anabolic balance and electrolyte

>> balance, and types you in each system. Thus you could be a fast

>> oxidizer, sympathetic dominant, etc. In a chapter called " ...Patient

>> Specific Nutrition " , Wolcott goes into some detail regarding calcium

>> and magnesium (and other nutrients)--and how they behave in the body

>> depending on the above types.   He suggests that they

>> are beneficial or harmful to the different types.  

>>  

>> I'm not speaking to the validity of his approach, but it is

>> interesting that he addresses the way different nutrients behave

>> metabolically.  Has anybody else read his work? 

>>  

>> Dahlia 

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