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Hi Kirsty

A TSH of 3.3 is not normal. When you post further blood results, will you also post the laboratory reference range for each test too, otherwise, we don't ahve anything to compare them with. I would suggest you ask for your ferritin (stored iron) to be tested next week, and also ask if you can have a Free T3 test, because you might not be converting the inactive hormone Thyroxine into the active hormone T3. T3 needs to get into every cell to make your body function, and some of us are unable to convert. Do NOT let your doctor tell you that everybody converts T4 to T3. They simply do not.

Your symptoms probably got worse when you increased your thyroxine because you have low adrenal reserve and when some of us need an increase, we also need to boost our adrenals so they can cope with the extra thyroid hormone you have suddenly introduced. Let us know how your NAE effects you, but don't be surprised if you have to wait some time to feel the effect.

Luv - Sheila

I didn't get to see my GP today, but did speak to him and get my bloodresults from Tuesday..Thyroid:TSH - 3.3T4 - 18.1Full blood count:WVC- 6.85PLAT - 2.10HB - 13.5According to him they are normal (but I still could be taking a bitmore Levothyroxine)He also made an appointment for me next Wednesday with the practice GPwho has more of a background in endocrinology than he does. He thinksthere are obviously many things for me to discuss with her as to why Iam not feeling well yet and hopes she will be able to help me. So weshall she what her policies are.. Its odd but the adrenal symptoms (that I described in Wednesday'sposts) have been much more prominent since I went up to 50mg at thebeginning of jan. Are they going to get worse the more thyroxine Itake? I hadn't actually had a full on panic attack since I wasoveractive and then early in Febraury - Boom. In fact since then Ifeel like I did when I was overactive which has been confusing me, soat least I know I'm not Hyper. Its just worrying me why my adrenalshave been messed up for so long. Also I definately feel more shivery pm and evening than in the morning. I started the Nutri adenal supportproperly today too. Kirsty x

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Cheers SheilaOk thats good to know, I'll let you now how I get on on Wed and try and get more detailed results. Also will make a stand for a Free T3 test, and if I get no joy I'll pay for one from your site. How long would that usually take?K xOn 14 Mar 2008, at 16:09, sheilaturner wrote:Hi Kirsty A TSH of 3.3 is not normal. When you post further blood results, will you also post the laboratory reference range for each test too, otherwise, we don't ahve anything to compare them with. I would suggest you ask for your ferritin (stored iron) to be tested next week, and also ask if you can have a Free T3 test, because you might not be converting the inactive hormone Thyroxine into the active hormone T3. T3 needs to get into every cell to make your body function, and some of us are unable to convert. Do NOT let your doctor tell you that everybody converts T4 to T3. They simply do not. Your symptoms probably got worse when you increased your thyroxine because you have low adrenal reserve and when some of us need an increase, we also need to boost our adrenals so they can cope with the extra thyroid hormone you have suddenly introduced. Let us know how your NAE effects you, but don't be surprised if you have to wait some time to feel the effect. Luv - Sheila I didn't get to see my GP today, but did speak to him and get my bloodresults from Tuesday..Thyroid:TSH - 3.3T4 - 18.1Full blood count:WVC- 6.85PLAT - 2.10HB - 13.5According to him they are normal (but I still could be taking a bitmore Levothyroxine)He also made an appointment for me next Wednesday with the practice GPwho has more of a background in endocrinology than he does. He thinksthere are obviously many things for me to discuss with her as to why Iam not feeling well yet and hopes she will be able to help me. So weshall she what her policies are.. Its odd but the adrenal symptoms (that I described in Wednesday'sposts) have been much more prominent since I went up to 50mg at thebeginning of jan. Are they going to get worse the more thyroxine Itake? I hadn't actually had a full on panic attack since I wasoveractive and then early in Febraury - Boom. In fact since then Ifeel like I did when I was overactive which has been confusing me, soat least I know I'm not Hyper. Its just worrying me why my adrenalshave been messed up for so long. Also I definately feel more shivery pm and evening than in the morning. I started the Nutri adenal supportproperly today too. Kirsty xNo virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 12/03/2008 13:27

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Not sure how long the results would take, but once they have your blood, probably no more than a week.

Luv - Sheila

Cheers Sheila

Ok thats good to know, I'll let you now how I get on on Wed and try and get more detailed results.

Also will make a stand for a Free T3 test, and if I get no joy I'll pay for one from your site. How long would that usually take?

K x

On 14 Mar 2008, at 16:09, sheilaturner wrote:

Hi Kirsty

A TSH of 3.3 is not normal. When you post further blood results, will you also post the laboratory reference range for each test too, otherwise, we don't ahve anything to compare them with. I would suggest you ask for your ferritin (stored iron) to be tested next week, and also ask if you can have a Free T3 test, because you might not be converting the inactive hormone Thyroxine into the active hormone T3. T3 needs to get into every cell to make your body function, and some of us are unable to convert. Do NOT let your doctor tell you that everybody converts T4 to T3. They simply do not.

Your symptoms probably got worse when you increased your thyroxine because you have low adrenal reserve and when some of us need an increase, we also need to boost our adrenals so they can cope with the extra thyroid hormone you have suddenly introduced. Let us know how your NAE effects you, but don't be surprised if you have to wait some time to feel the effect.

Luv - Sheila

I didn't get to see my GP today, but did speak to him and get my bloodresults from Tuesday..Thyroid:TSH - 3.3T4 - 18.1Full blood count:WVC- 6.85PLAT - 2.10HB - 13.5According to him they are normal (but I still could be taking a bitmore Levothyroxine)He also made an appointment for me next Wednesday with the practice GPwho has more of a background in endocrinology than he does. He thinksthere are obviously many things for me to discuss with her as to why Iam not feeling well yet and hopes she will be able to help me. So weshall she what her policies are.. Its odd but the adrenal symptoms (that I described in Wednesday'sposts) have been much more prominent since I went up to 50mg at thebeginning of jan. Are they going to get worse the more thyroxine Itake? I hadn't actually had a full on panic attack since I wasoveractive and then early in Febraury - Boom. In fact since then Ifeel like I did when I was overactive which has been confusing me, soat least I know I'm not Hyper. Its just worrying me why my adrenalshave been messed up for so long. Also I definately feel more shivery pm and evening than in the morning. I started the Nutri adenal supportproperly today too. Kirsty x

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What worries me is that most GP's will only diagnose if you are above 10 now, mine certainly did, if the reference range goes up to 10 will they then only diagnose when your TSH hits 15!!?

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The reference range in the UK is far too wide, and this is why there are tens of thousands of people suffering with untreated hypothyroidism. The British Thyroid Association say that the TSH range should be increased, with the top of the range being 10.0. I think one way or another, they have found a way to decrease the population on this little Island of ours.

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HI Kirsty

A 'normal' TSH would be around 1.0. In America the top of the TSH reference range is 3.0 - so you would have been given a diagnoses of hypothyroidism over there. In Germany, the top of the TSH reference range is 2.5 - so again, you would have been given a diagnosis and started on thyroxine.

The reference range in the UK is far too wide, and this is why there are tens of thousands of people suffering with untreated hypothyroidism. The British Thyroid Association say that the TSH range should be increased, with the top of the range being 10.0. I think one way or another, they have found a way to decrease the population on this little Island of ours.

Luv - Sheila

Sheila

What is this result telling you then, and what is normal?

Kirsty

On 14 Mar 2008, at 16:09, sheilaturner wrote:

Hi Kirsty

A TSH of 3.3 is not normal.

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Hi Sheila

I wonder if somehow the decimal point got put in the wrong place

causing meyhem (original typing error maybe). 10.0 or 1.0??????

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**BIG grin**

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Hi SheilaI wonder if somehow the decimal point got put in the wrong place causing meyhem (original typing error maybe). 10.0 or 1.0??????LuvChris> > > Hi Kirsty> > A TSH of 3.3 is not normal.> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1329 - Release Date: 14/03/2008 12:33>

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I t has already gone up to 10 according to the Guidelines nne.

Luv - Sheila

What worries me is that most GP's will only diagnose if you are above 10 now, mine certainly did, if the reference range goes up to 10 will they then only diagnose when your TSH hits 15!!?

nne

The reference range in the UK is far too wide, and this is why there are tens of thousands of people suffering with untreated hypothyroidism. The British Thyroid Association say that the TSH range should be increased, with the top of the range being 10.0. I think one way or another, they have found a way to decrease the population on this little Island of ours.

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Hi

Nice thought, but sadly not the case it comes from some research

done by Prof Weetman. http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/314/7088/1175

Re: Blood Results from 11/03/08

Hi Sheila

I wonder if somehow the decimal point got put in the wrong place

causing meyhem (original typing error maybe). 10.0 or 1.0??????

Luv

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It was a joke!

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