Re: Doctor gives me lugol's...

[Guest guest]

My comments below.

Doctor gives me lugol's...

> Hi there, I'm new to the group. > > My doctor recently did some tests me and found that my thyroid > function was underactive and that the lugol's iodine test showed my > body was holding onto the iodine, more than excreting it. Revealing > that I was severely low in iodine. It also showed severely low in > magnesium and zinc.

Magnesium and zinc are foundational nutrients for the thyroid.

> > I was then given a multi/vitamin/mineral powder, with extra selenium, > magnesium, zinc, vitamin E and lugol's iodine. I decided to leave > out the lugol's first and just start with the supplements. Plus I > went back to using iodized salt on my meals. And kept up with my > redmonds rock salt (adding it to vitamin drinks). The > vitamin/mineral powder actually already contained about 100 mcg of > potassium iodide.

100 mcg is very small. It's only .010 mg of Iodine. I take 100 mgs. Ditch the iodized salt. If it is from the grocery store and cheap you are doing your body harm. It is cleaned and processed with chloride which is a thyroid hormone inhibitor (halide). Get some Celtic Salt (redmonds is good but many here feel better with Celtic brand) and supplement with a good Iodine supplement. > > This alone, appeared to help me to feel a bit better. I felt a > subtle rise in energy. Then I decided to add the lugol's. My doctor > prescribed 4 drops of lugol's. Each drop is 250 mcg. I took the 4 > drops and not long afterwards I appeared to feel hyped up, racing > heart, etc. I didn't know what the reaction was or why, so I > stopped. It seemed to calm down. Next time I tried just 2 drops and > the same thing occured.

You are the second person to tell me about a "Lugol's" that has 250 mcg's of Iodine. Where did you get this? I suspect there is someone passing this product off as Lugol's when it is not. How much did you pay for this? Because you feel hyper I suspect your adrenals are struggling. Get at least 2,000 mgs Vit C per day plus do the salt load described on www.breastcancerchoices.org . You can calm that hyper feeling in many cases with Magnesium (200- 400 mgs) plus Vit C. If that does not help Lithium and L-Carnatine will also help. Adding the CoFactors (B2/B3) described on my website www.naturalthyroidchoices.com may help as well. They help the utilization of the iodine in the cells. Are you taking Selenium? You should be taking at least 200 mcg of that as well.

This is controversial but I have seen people react when taking too LITTLE iodine. It's enough to fuel the fire but not get the fire burning well. I have a friend who could not take 6.25 mgs of Iodoral but now takes 200 mgs w/o an issue.

Have you been tested for an autoimmune thyroid disease? (TPO antibodies and Thyroglobulin Antibodies) You should probably do that if you have not. Get a full thyroid panel too of TSH, Free T3 and Free T4. You need to know your status.

[Guest guest]

Possibly this is because you are still taking iodine

in salt etc..Try for two days stopping the iodine

totally --not even in salt or go without salt.

Experiment and determine your own optimal level of

iodine. We all are different. Even your iodine

requirement may change across days.

Ratan.

--- bex_916 <signposts@...> wrote:

> Hi there, I'm new to the group.

>

> My doctor recently did some tests me and found that

> my thyroid

> function was underactive and that the lugol's iodine

> test showed my

> body was holding onto the iodine, more than

> excreting it. Revealing

> that I was severely low in iodine. It also showed

> severely low in

> magnesium and zinc.

>

> I was then given a multi/vitamin/mineral powder,

> with extra selenium,

> magnesium, zinc, vitamin E and lugol's iodine. I

> decided to leave

> out the lugol's first and just start with the

> supplements. Plus I

> went back to using iodized salt on my meals. And

> kept up with my

> redmonds rock salt (adding it to vitamin drinks).

> The

> vitamin/mineral powder actually already contained

> about 100 mcg of

> potassium iodide.

>

> This alone, appeared to help me to feel a bit

> better. I felt a

> subtle rise in energy. Then I decided to add the

> lugol's. My doctor

> prescribed 4 drops of lugol's. Each drop is 250

> mcg. I took the 4

> drops and not long afterwards I appeared to feel

> hyped up, racing

> heart, etc. I didn't know what the reaction was or

> why, so I

> stopped. It seemed to calm down. Next time I tried

> just 2 drops and

> the same thing occured.

>

> I've tried it on and off and now I cannot seem to

> calm things down at

> all. though I'm off the lugol's, I am experiencing

> nervousness,

> heart palpitations, unable to calm down or settle

> and I feel detox

> reactions also. I am flushed and talkative also. I

> do not feel

> right.

>

> So though right now I'm only taking the supplements,

> using iodised

> salt on my meals and just taking unrefined sea salt

> in my vitamin

> drink (quarter teaspoon twice a day), the reactions

> continue.

>

> Will this settle down? I am concerned. Am I on too

> much iodine as

> it is? I only have the iodised salt and 100 mcg of

> iodide in the

> supplement and that is it....I'm confused as to why

> things aren't

> coming back to normality.

>

> I'd appreciate any comments on this as I am new to

> this and really do

> not know what I'm dealing with.

>

> Thanks.

> Bex.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ratan,

Thank you for your response. This sounds like the logical solution

and then starting again once symptoms calm down. I think what

happened was, my body was obviously very deficient in iodine and the

sudden increased intake, almost sent things into overdrive. Even if

my body required more overall, at that point even that increase was

almost too sudden.

Even stopping the lugol's but continuing with the iodised salt

perhaps allowed that reaction to be maintained as you have

indicated. So yeah I feel like I have to let it subside and start

again but in a healthier manner too. Obviously table-salt is far

from ideal. I guess though that the iodine it does have, lifted me

when I first starting using it before the lugol's which does at least

indicate I need iodine, but the long term problems possibly

associated with table salt does not appeal...

thanks again.

>

> Possibly this is because you are still taking iodine

> in salt etc..Try for two days stopping the iodine

> totally --not even in salt or go without salt.

> Experiment and determine your own optimal level of

> iodine. We all are different. Even your iodine

> requirement may change across days.

> Ratan.

> --- bex_916 <signposts@...> wrote:

>

> >

[Guest guest]

HI ,

Thanks for your detailed response. Yes the lugol's I was given is

obviously a highly diluted " version " . I got it from here:

http://www.clinicians.co.nz/afawcs0132762/CATID=8/SUBID=89/ID=1367/SID

=700160255/productdetails.html

Doctor had me on 4 drops, which was far too much for me to handle.

Certainly at that stage. Obviously iodine deficient for sometime, I

went into overdrive. I don't believe that's the way to deal with

this problem, I think it creates problems, unless a person goes slow

and ramps up to tolerance (just my opinion).

I get vitamin C in the multi powder I am taking. Almost 2000 mg

spread out during the day. I am also taking magnesium, and the multi

contains plenty of nutrients all in one that is from the clincians

lab here in new zealand. Excellent stuff, so my adrenals would

alreay be getting at least some support. However, I still cannot

handle much iodine right now.

It is interesting what you said about too little iodine, as opposed

to not taking enough and then having issues with that. Perhaps that

is what happened to me, I don't know. Very weird though! Fueling

the fire, but not really getting the fire burning. Could be!

Yes I have recently had a full thyroid panel done. I cannot find my

results right now, but I was low thyroid. My doctor who is also

alternative health therapist did the right type of tests to make sure

it was accurate. However, I believe personally that adrenals are

involved and this might be why stimulating thyroid is causing

problems too. She said my cortisone was at high levels, as was my

DHEA (though I have the growth hormone of someone in their middle

age, so that was not good). However, I've also heard cortisone

levels can fluctute during the day are testing is not always an

accurate depiction of what is really going on.

I feel personally that it's a case of monitoring and balancing at the

moment. Giving things are rest and starting again!

I would also like to ask what you think of this salt here:

http://malcolmharker.co.nz/shop/Salt++Powders/Natural+Sun+dried+Seasal

t++kelp/1022-200g+-+Celtic++Sea+Salt.html

Is kelp an ok thing to mix into this programme? as it contains iodine

naturally, I'd be interested in this mixture of celtic salt and kelp..

Thank you again for the informative and helpful response. I would

>

>

My comments below.

>

>

>

> Doctor gives me lugol's...

>

>

> >> 100 mcg is very small. It's only .010 mg of Iodine. I take 100

mgs. Ditch the iodized salt. If it is from the grocery store and

cheap you are doing your body harm. It is cleaned and processed with

chloride which is a thyroid hormone inhibitor (halide). Get some

Celtic Salt (redmonds is good but many here feel better with Celtic

brand) and supplement with a good Iodine supplement.

> >

> >

> You are the second person to tell me about a " Lugol's " that has 250

mcg's of Iodine. Where did you get this? I suspect there is someone

passing this product off as Lugol's when it is not. How much did you

pay for this? Because you feel hyper I suspect your adrenals are

struggling. Get at least 2,000 mgs Vit C per day plus do the salt

load described on www.breastcancerchoices.org . You can calm that

hyper feeling in many cases with Magnesium (200- 400 mgs) plus Vit

C. If that does not help Lithium and L-Carnatine will also help.

Adding the CoFactors (B2/B3) described on my website

www.naturalthyroidchoices.com may help as well. They help the

utilization of the iodine in the cells. Are you taking Selenium?

You should be taking at least 200 mcg of that as well.

>

> This is controversial but I have seen people react when taking too

LITTLE iodine. It's enough to fuel the fire but not get the fire

burning well. I have a friend who could not take 6.25 mgs of Iodoral

but now takes 200 mgs w/o an issue.

>

> Have you been tested for an autoimmune thyroid disease? (TPO

antibodies and Thyroglobulin Antibodies) You should probably do that

if you have not. Get a full thyroid panel too of TSH, Free T3 and

Free T4. You need to know your status.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My comments below

Re: Doctor gives me lugol's...

> HI ,> > Thanks for your detailed response. Yes the lugol's I was given is > obviously a highly diluted "version". I got it from here:> http://www.clinicians.co.nz/afawcs0132762/CATID=8/SUBID=89/ID=1367/SID>=700160255/productdetails.html

This is not Lugol's formula. They may call it Lugol's but it isn't. Lugols is not only Iodine but Iodine AND Iodide. That is why there is a problem. Your body needs both. I couldn't understand how you got such a low dose as I have never seen this. Here is the MSDS for Lugol's 2% http://www.jcrows.com/lugolsmsds.html Notice both types of Iodine and Iodide. The thyroid needs Iodide. Here is further info on Lugol's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol's_iodine I don't have a clue what the stuff you got actually is. I could be straight Iodine or a

> > Doctor had me on 4 drops, which was far too much for me to handle. > Certainly at that stage. Obviously iodine deficient for sometime, I > went into overdrive. I don't believe that's the way to deal with > this problem, I think it creates problems, unless a person goes slow > and ramps up to tolerance (just my opinion).

Like I said. I have no idea exactly what this is because it is not Lugol's. Who's to say that it is even pure. It may have contamanents in it. I don't know. Since Iodine comes from the sea it could have bromide, arsenic or a whole raft of other things in it. I would ask the company for information on how clean the product is.

> > I get vitamin C in the multi powder I am taking. Almost 2000 mg > spread out during the day. I am also taking magnesium, and the multi > contains plenty of nutrients all in one that is from the clincians > lab here in new zealand. Excellent stuff, so my adrenals would > alreay be getting at least some support. However, I still cannot > handle much iodine right now.

That may not be enough support for them. Some need more like a glandular or licorice root, ashwaganda, etc. There are several options for supporting adrenals. > > It is interesting what you said about too little iodine, as opposed > to not taking enough and then having issues with that. Perhaps that > is what happened to me, I don't know. Very weird though! Fueling > the fire, but not really getting the fire burning. Could be!

That's the hard thing about this. Unless you play with it you won't really know what works for you. You have to be a bit daring. I have had to be. Each time I increased it was with a bit of fear. I went from 50 mgs to 75 mgs to 100 mgs. The last was the hardest.> > Yes I have recently had a full thyroid panel done. I cannot find my > results right now, but I was low thyroid. My doctor who is also > alternative health therapist did the right type of tests to make sure > it was accurate. However, I believe personally that adrenals are > involved and this might be why stimulating thyroid is causing > problems too. She said my cortisone was at high levels, as was my > DHEA (though I have the growth hormone of someone in their middle > age, so that was not good). However, I've also heard cortisone > levels can fluctute during the day are testing is not always an > accurate depiction of what is really going on.

That is true. Cortisol does fluctuate which is why the multiple through the day cortisol (saliva) tests work well. If you have a stressful day it will elevate it. But, higher cortisol signals early adrenal fatigue. Chronic stress will elevate it until they get exhausted and quit then the cortisol drops and you have another issue. Stress can be from low thyroid levels because the adrenals then have to pick up the slack. Remember adrenals are sprinters not marathon runners.> > I feel personally that it's a case of monitoring and balancing at the > moment. Giving things are rest and starting again!> > I would also like to ask what you think of this salt here:> http://malcolmharker.co.nz/shop/Salt++Powders/Natural+Sun+dried+Seasal> t++kelp/1022-200g+-+Celtic++Sea+Salt.html

Personally I would not use anything with kelp. Kelp has been found to have high levels of arsenic in them. It also can have bromide which is a halide (thyroid inhibitor). Check out my Dr's blog on this http://www.drbrownstein.com/blog.asp?id=105

> > Is kelp an ok thing to mix into this programme? as it contains iodine > naturally, I'd be interested in this mixture of celtic salt and kelp..

I wouldn't for reasons stated above. Because I healed my cancer with Iodoral I am partial to that product of course. I know personally the Dr who developed the product and am in hic cancer clinical research study. His stuff works. I have seen it over and over again. I have seen people try other products after Iodoral and have gone back to it becuase it worked better.

[Guest guest]

Bex,

It is the " iodized salt and 100 mcg of iodide in the supplement and

that is it. " that is causing your nervous feelings.

Every time I eat food that has regular iodized table salt I feel like

I am speeding up and feel very nervous. As long as I stay off the

iodized table salt and take no other salts EXCEPT for Celtic Sea

Salt, I feel fine.

You should then start on Lugol's again, but, only 1 drop per day for

awhile, then 2 drops, etc.

Sunny

>

> Hi there, I'm new to the group.

>

> My doctor recently did some tests me and found that my thyroid

> function was underactive and that the lugol's iodine test showed my

> body was holding onto the iodine, more than excreting it.

Revealing

> that I was severely low in iodine. It also showed severely low in

> magnesium and zinc.

>

> I was then given a multi/vitamin/mineral powder, with extra

selenium,

> magnesium, zinc, vitamin E and lugol's iodine. I decided to leave

> out the lugol's first and just start with the supplements. Plus I

> went back to using iodized salt on my meals. And kept up with my

> redmonds rock salt (adding it to vitamin drinks). The

> vitamin/mineral powder actually already contained about 100 mcg of

> potassium iodide.

>

> This alone, appeared to help me to feel a bit better. I felt a

> subtle rise in energy. Then I decided to add the lugol's. My

doctor

> prescribed 4 drops of lugol's. Each drop is 250 mcg. I took the 4

> drops and not long afterwards I appeared to feel hyped up, racing

> heart, etc. I didn't know what the reaction was or why, so I

> stopped. It seemed to calm down. Next time I tried just 2 drops

and

> the same thing occured.

>

> I've tried it on and off and now I cannot seem to calm things down

at

> all. though I'm off the lugol's, I am experiencing nervousness,

> heart palpitations, unable to calm down or settle and I feel detox

> reactions also. I am flushed and talkative also. I do not feel

> right.

>

> So though right now I'm only taking the supplements, using iodised

> salt on my meals and just taking unrefined sea salt in my vitamin

> drink (quarter teaspoon twice a day), the reactions continue.

>

> Will this settle down? I am concerned. Am I on too much iodine as

> it is? I only have the iodised salt and 100 mcg of iodide in the

> supplement and that is it....I'm confused as to why things aren't

> coming back to normality.

>

> I'd appreciate any comments on this as I am new to this and really

do

> not know what I'm dealing with.

>

> Thanks.

> Bex.

>

[Guest guest]

But she was not taking real lugol's and that may be the problem.

Re: Doctor gives me lugol's...

> Bex,

>

> It is the " iodized salt and 100 mcg of iodide in the supplement and

> that is it. " that is causing your nervous feelings.

>

> Every time I eat food that has regular iodized table salt I feel like

> I am speeding up and feel very nervous. As long as I stay off the

> iodized table salt and take no other salts EXCEPT for Celtic Sea

> Salt, I feel fine.

>

> You should then start on Lugol's again, but, only 1 drop per day for

> awhile, then 2 drops, etc.

>

> Sunny

>

>

>

>>

>> Hi there, I'm new to the group.

>>

>> My doctor recently did some tests me and found that my thyroid

>> function was underactive and that the lugol's iodine test showed my

>> body was holding onto the iodine, more than excreting it.

> Revealing

>> that I was severely low in iodine. It also showed severely low in

>> magnesium and zinc.

>>

>> I was then given a multi/vitamin/mineral powder, with extra

> selenium,

>> magnesium, zinc, vitamin E and lugol's iodine. I decided to leave

>> out the lugol's first and just start with the supplements. Plus I

>> went back to using iodized salt on my meals. And kept up with my

>> redmonds rock salt (adding it to vitamin drinks). The

>> vitamin/mineral powder actually already contained about 100 mcg of

>> potassium iodide.

>>

>> This alone, appeared to help me to feel a bit better. I felt a

>> subtle rise in energy. Then I decided to add the lugol's. My

> doctor

>> prescribed 4 drops of lugol's. Each drop is 250 mcg. I took the 4

>> drops and not long afterwards I appeared to feel hyped up, racing

>> heart, etc. I didn't know what the reaction was or why, so I

>> stopped. It seemed to calm down. Next time I tried just 2 drops

> and

>> the same thing occured.

>>

>> I've tried it on and off and now I cannot seem to calm things down

> at

>> all. though I'm off the lugol's, I am experiencing nervousness,

>> heart palpitations, unable to calm down or settle and I feel detox

>> reactions also. I am flushed and talkative also. I do not feel

>> right.

>>

>> So though right now I'm only taking the supplements, using iodised

>> salt on my meals and just taking unrefined sea salt in my vitamin

>> drink (quarter teaspoon twice a day), the reactions continue.

>>

>> Will this settle down? I am concerned. Am I on too much iodine as

>> it is? I only have the iodised salt and 100 mcg of iodide in the

>> supplement and that is it....I'm confused as to why things aren't

>> coming back to normality.

>>

>> I'd appreciate any comments on this as I am new to this and really

> do

>> not know what I'm dealing with.

>>

>> Thanks.

>> Bex.

>>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sunny,

Maybe you're right. Certainly, even though I stopped lugol's the

nervous hyped up feeling and palpitations aren't stopping. So you

probably have a strong point! This is unfortunate, as the supplement

is excellent and from a reputable lab in new zealand. Has just about

everything in it and I am sure it and the other supplements have

helped. I have also just bought another one recently and I am on a

limited income, so I feel this is a waste because I've already

started using it.

It's funny because iodised salt never used to do this to me, but I

think perhaps being off it for so long and onto the natural salt,

perhaps going back on it, my body is strongly reacting and trying to

tell me something...? Could it be the iodine as such or the caking

agents that are setting my nervous system off? or perhaps both?

Since people seem to feel it's a poison...

I think I'll lessen this a bit at a time, because I went into it too

fast and I want to back off bit by bit. I'm saddened over the

supplement, because the other one they have is the same, 100 mcg of

iodide....anyway, Im going to see what giving up the salt does first,

as I'm about to do that anyway because of what said. So

today I'm stopping.

What about kelp? I realise I could start on lugol's yes, but I'm

wondering also about kelp? I put up a link to a salt we have here

that has a mix of celtic sea salt and kelp...would that too be ok?

thanks again, this has been very helpful to me and may explain what

is going on here.

> Bex,

>

> It is the " iodized salt and 100 mcg of iodide in the supplement and

> that is it. " that is causing your nervous feelings.

>

> Every time I eat food that has regular iodized table salt I feel

like

> I am speeding up and feel very nervous. As long as I stay off the

> iodized table salt and take no other salts EXCEPT for Celtic Sea

> Salt, I feel fine.

>

> You should then start on Lugol's again, but, only 1 drop per day

for

> awhile, then 2 drops, etc.

>

> Sunny

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Sorry I missed this post! Just seen it now. I'm a bit disappointed

in regards to the kelp I must admit. But thanks for letting me

know. My Father takes it and I must admit is doing well. He's 76.

He uses redmonds real salt and takes kelp supplements and is doing

just fine. So perhaps the stuff we have is a bit more pure I don't

know. Maybe he's less affected by things than I am, as he is not ill

anyway.

I'll check out the stuff you posted (Iodoral). Yeah I " m not sure

about the " lugol's " iodine we have here from that lab. But it says

it's just a diluted form of the original. So it must have both forms

of iodine, but just much more diluted version, so you don't get the

higher potency of it.

Perhaps it's still a good one to take, considering I can ramp up.

Here is what it says:

" Clinicians Lugol's Solution (4% dilution) is a dilution of the

original Lugol's Iodine designed to support thyroid function " .

And yes, I think I need a bit more vitamin C also. I have licorice

herbal tea...although it has no sugar, it seemed to set off my yeast

problems more. Anything sweet, even natural causes issues with me.

I may simply need to buy an adrenal support or glandular formula.

I also take about 200 mcg selenium a day.

I find a lot of this a bit confusing and alot of trial and error is

involved.

Thanks again :-)

Bex.

>

> My comments below

>

>

>

> >

http://www.clinicians.co.nz/afawcs0132762/CATID=8/SUBID=89/ID=1367/SID

>=700160255/productdetails.html

>

> This is not Lugol's formula. They may call it Lugol's but it

isn't. Lugols is not only Iodine but Iodine AND Iodide. That is why

there is a problem. Your body needs both. I couldn't understand how

you got such a low dose as I have never seen this. Here is the MSDS

for Lugol's 2% http://www.jcrows.com/lugolsmsds.html Notice both

types of Iodine and Iodide. The thyroid needs Iodide. Here is

further info on Lugol's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol's_iodine

I don't have a clue what the stuff you got actually is. I could be

straight Iodine or a

>

> >

Who's to say that it is even pure. It may have contamanents in it.

I don't know. Since Iodine comes from the sea it could have bromide,

arsenic or a whole raft of other things in it. I would ask the

company for information on how clean the product is.

>

>

> >

http://malcolmharker.co.nz/shop/Salt++Powders/Natural+Sun+dried+Seasal

> > t++kelp/1022-200g+-+Celtic++Sea+Salt.html

>

>

> Personally I would not use anything with kelp. Kelp has been found

to have high levels of arsenic in them. It also can have bromide

which is a halide (thyroid inhibitor). Check out my Dr's blog on

this http://www.drbrownstein.com/blog.asp?id=105

>

> >

> > Is kelp an ok thing to mix into this programme? as it contains

iodine

> > naturally, I'd be interested in this mixture of celtic salt and

kelp..

>

> I wouldn't for reasons stated above. Because I healed my cancer

with Iodoral I am partial to that product of course. I know

personally the Dr who developed the product and am in hic cancer

clinical research study. His stuff works. I have seen it over and

over again. I have seen people try other products after Iodoral and

have gone back to it becuase it worked better.

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It will be trial and error and testing. There are no definitive answers or

a one size fits all. We are all unique. As for your father and kelp. Some

people have better detoxification pathways. Others do not and react. I am

an unfortunate one who struggles to detox. My ND found that there is an

issue in the genome of those of us who got cancer - also he things

autoimmune as well. Lucky us.

I am still not convinced that iodine product is Lugol's. We have issues

with people saying something is Lugol's but when my Dr friend has them

analyzed they are not at all.

Re: Doctor gives me lugol's...

> Hi ,

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> Sorry I missed this post! Just seen it now. I'm a bit disappointed

> in regards to the kelp I must admit. But thanks for letting me

> know. My Father takes it and I must admit is doing well. He's 76.

> He uses redmonds real salt and takes kelp supplements and is doing

> just fine. So perhaps the stuff we have is a bit more pure I don't

> know. Maybe he's less affected by things than I am, as he is not ill

> anyway.

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> I'll check out the stuff you posted (Iodoral). Yeah I " m not sure

> about the " lugol's " iodine we have here from that lab. But it says

> it's just a diluted form of the original. So it must have both forms

> of iodine, but just much more diluted version, so you don't get the

> higher potency of it.

>

> Perhaps it's still a good one to take, considering I can ramp up.

> Here is what it says:

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> " Clinicians Lugol's Solution (4% dilution) is a dilution of the

> original Lugol's Iodine designed to support thyroid function " .

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> And yes, I think I need a bit more vitamin C also. I have licorice

> herbal tea...although it has no sugar, it seemed to set off my yeast

> problems more. Anything sweet, even natural causes issues with me.

> I may simply need to buy an adrenal support or glandular formula.

>

> I also take about 200 mcg selenium a day.

>

> I find a lot of this a bit confusing and alot of trial and error is

> involved.

>

> Thanks again :-)

>

> Bex.

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> http://www.clinicians.co.nz/afawcs0132762/CATID=8/SUBID=89/ID=1367/SID

>>=700160255/productdetails.html

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>> This is not Lugol's formula. They may call it Lugol's but it

> isn't. Lugols is not only Iodine but Iodine AND Iodide. That is why

> there is a problem. Your body needs both. I couldn't understand how

> you got such a low dose as I have never seen this. Here is the MSDS

> for Lugol's 2% http://www.jcrows.com/lugolsmsds.html Notice both

> types of Iodine and Iodide. The thyroid needs Iodide. Here is

> further info on Lugol's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol's_iodine

> I don't have a clue what the stuff you got actually is. I could be

> straight Iodine or a

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> Who's to say that it is even pure. It may have contamanents in it.

> I don't know. Since Iodine comes from the sea it could have bromide,

> arsenic or a whole raft of other things in it. I would ask the

> company for information on how clean the product is.

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> http://malcolmharker.co.nz/shop/Salt++Powders/Natural+Sun+dried+Seasal

>> > t++kelp/1022-200g+-+Celtic++Sea+Salt.html

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>> Personally I would not use anything with kelp. Kelp has been found

> to have high levels of arsenic in them. It also can have bromide

> which is a halide (thyroid inhibitor). Check out my Dr's blog on

> this http://www.drbrownstein.com/blog.asp?id=105

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>> > Is kelp an ok thing to mix into this programme? as it contains

> iodine

>> > naturally, I'd be interested in this mixture of celtic salt and

> kelp..

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>> I wouldn't for reasons stated above. Because I healed my cancer

> with Iodoral I am partial to that product of course. I know

> personally the Dr who developed the product and am in hic cancer

> clinical research study. His stuff works. I have seen it over and

> over again. I have seen people try other products after Iodoral and

> have gone back to it becuase it worked better.

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