BROMIDE

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2 Interesting Links...Pat

*Public Health Implications of Bromate in Bottled Water Avoid consuming

bottled water containing both ozone and bromide. ... but on all food

consumed by man thereby protecting the public's health and reducing the

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http://www.ideamarketers.com/library/article.cfm?articleid=120086 & from=PROFILE

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*Kelp & Bromine

http://www.acu-cell.com/br.html

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Fascinating mix Shay, it appears to be similar to the salt/C regimine for getting rid of lyme disease... I would say if it got rid of lyme it would get rid of other parasites as well??

Cheryl

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>> Has anyone one used this protocal effectively of have a comment.> > > Shevin, MD, uses a specific protocol to clear bromide > detox symptoms if they occur while taking iodine. Dr Shevin > presented his* Salt Loading Protocol at the February '07 Iodine > conference:> > > 1/4 teaspoon* salt dissolved in 1/2 cup warm water, then > followed immediately with 12-16 oz pure water. > Repeat in 30-45 minutes if needed. May repeat again until > copious urination begins.> > Observe subjective response (usually within several > hours).> > *Celtic sea salt is preferred. Be sure to ask your doctor before > implementing this or any medical strategy.> > *Iodine Investigation Project participants have found 1/2 teaspoon > salt dissolved in water works faster than the 1/4 teaspoon dosage.>Shay-I did not get any symptom releif at 1/4 teaspoon salt. I did get releif with a heaping teaspoon of sea salt, my congestion clears within just a few minutes. I mix 1 teaspoon salt, 1 teaspoon ascorbic acid, one teaspoon magnesium Natural Calm, and three teaspoons of instant lemonade mix into a 20 ounce glass of filtered water. I have taken this mix as many as four times in a day. It has cleared out a lot of brain fog for me too.Shay------------------------------------

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you only used 1 tab of Iodoral?? I think 50mg would be the minimum dose. I am doing well on 100mg per day.

Gracia

Hi Duke & Shay,Thanks for raising this issue Duke. I'm sorry to say that I can't help you so I'm so pleased that Shay has shared her protocol with you. I had so much trouble with iodine and my investigations discovered the info about bromide/fluoride. I am currently off iodine. Here's the history of my experience with it.I added Iodoral 1 tablet to my MMS treatment recently and had a huge exacerbation of pressure and pain in cervical spine/occipital region/head/jaw/face. The pressure is pretty constant and ramps up with all treatments I've followed but adding the iodine caused pain in intolerable levels and also spread the pain further. The pressure as above is 1 of the major problematic symptoms for me. It's not that I don't have other symptoms but this and pain in buttocks make life the most difficult (my other dx are in previous message - Subject: Re: Dosing Query) for me. Also, sometimes it seems like my thyroid aches a bit but the iodine seemed to cause this pain to exacerbate and radiate from my thyroid down the front wall of my chest. I tried the salt loading (1/4 tspn) but didn't know how long it was supposed to take to settle down. Nothing improved while taking the MMS and iodine so I stopped. However, the pressure in cervical spine and above (that is always invoked by treatments) still in remains so I'm wary of starting back on either protocols yet.Shay, is it necessary to be taking the iodine to use your protocol for releasing bromine? Did your protocol tone down your symptoms that were invoked by releasing the bromine?I'm a bit wary of the Salt/C releasing Lyme and co-infections at the same time! Not that I've been dx'd with it but I have symptoms that indicate it is a possibility.Did either of you have any of these symptoms that I have and which are listed at:http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/bromidedetoxsymptomsandstrategies.html I had these prior to iodine:eye lid twitchingmouth and tongue sores and cuts or "sore mouth"brain fogleg and hip ache (feels like arthritis)runny noseheadachebody odor (bromos is Greek for stench) - occasional only with herxheimer for me.unusual urine odor - occasional only with herxheimer for me.ureteral spasm, frequent urination (mistaken for urinary infection)And these were invoked after starting iodine.metallic taste - I developed this with MMS on high dose but it may always have been related to bromine.sinus achedry mouthkidney painNot sure if I expect that anyone can help me sort out what is the best thing to do about all this but I guess my experience may come in handy for someone.Thanks ..........LD> Shevin, MD, uses a specific protocol to clear bromide > detox symptoms if they occur while taking iodine. Dr Shevin > presented his* Salt Loading Protocol at the February '07 Iodine > conference: > 1/4 teaspoon* salt dissolved in 1/2 cup warm water, then > followed immediately with 12-16 oz pure water. > Repeat in 30-45 minutes if needed. May repeat again until > copious urination begins.> > Observe subjective response (usually within several > hours).> > *Celtic sea salt is preferred. Be sure to ask your doctor before > implementing this or any medical strategy.> > *Iodine Investigation Project participants have found 1/2 teaspoon > salt dissolved in water works faster than the 1/4 teaspoon dosage.>Shay- I did not get any symptom releif at 1/4 teaspoon salt. I did get releif with a heaping teaspoon of sea salt, my congestion clears within just a few minutes. I mix 1 teaspoon salt, 1 teaspoon ascorbic acid, one teaspoon magnesium Natural Calm, and three teaspoons of instant lemonade mix into a 20 ounce glass of filtered water. I have taken this mix as many as four times in a day. It has cleared out a lot of brain fog for me too.Shay

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LD

The symptoms you describe prior to taking iodine are all symptoms of

Fibromyalgia. While

I do not know if you have it, I suggest you read Dr St Amand's book on FMS

-- " What

Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Fibromyalgia " . As he describes in the book,

body

mapping is the definitive way to dx FMS. His book can be ordered from his

website

www.fibromyalgiatreatment.com His book provides a wealth of info on FMS and the

many

side affects of this illness.

Janet

> I'm a bit wary of the Salt/C releasing Lyme and co-infections at the

> same time! Not that I've been dx'd with it but I have symptoms that

> indicate it is a possibility.

>

> I had these prior to iodine:

>

> eye lid twitching

> mouth and tongue sores and cuts or " sore mouth "

> brain fog

> leg and hip ache (feels like arthritis)

> runny nose

> headache

> body odor (bromos is Greek for stench) - occasional only with

> herxheimer for me.

> unusual urine odor - occasional only with herxheimer for me.

> ureteral spasm, frequent urination (mistaken for urinary infection)

>

> And these were invoked after starting iodine.

>

> metallic taste - I developed this with MMS on high dose but it may

> always have been related to bromine.

> sinus ache

> dry mouth

> kidney pain

>

> Not sure if I expect that anyone can help me sort out what is the

> best thing to do about all this but I guess my experience may come

> in handy for someone.

>

> Thanks ..........LD

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LD:

WOW! I tried the MMS and got no results also. I have always thought that my problem was fungus but couldn't find a collaborator till I tripped over http://www.know-the-cause.com/ I watched his TV show on cable ( they are listed on his site), called them and got a local DO using his methods. The DO used a Dark Field Microscope to view that in fact I am full of fungus and has been treating me with H2O2, Diflucan and glutathione IV's for two months. That and information provided by Bruce Fife in his book Coconut Cures seems to be giving me a fighting chance.

Everyday I spend three or four hours searching the internet for answers. The best part is I find people that are actually solving their problems and are willing to share what they did.

Duke ---------------------------------> Hope your day goes well. 214-823-7070

iodine From: leithaldame@...Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:39:28 +0000Subject: Re: bromide

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They are also low thyroid and toxicity. I had most of those when under

treated and poisoned by mercury.

Re: bromide

> LD

> The symptoms you describe prior to taking iodine are all symptoms of

> Fibromyalgia. While

> I do not know if you have it, I suggest you read Dr St Amand's book

> on FMS -- " What

> Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Fibromyalgia " . As he describes in the

> book, body

> mapping is the definitive way to dx FMS. His book can be ordered from his

> website

> www.fibromyalgiatreatment.com His book provides a wealth of info on FMS

> and the many

> side affects of this illness.

> Janet

>

>

>

>> I'm a bit wary of the Salt/C releasing Lyme and co-infections at the

>> same time! Not that I've been dx'd with it but I have symptoms that

>> indicate it is a possibility.

>>

>> I had these prior to iodine:

>>

>> eye lid twitching

>> mouth and tongue sores and cuts or " sore mouth "

>> brain fog

>> leg and hip ache (feels like arthritis)

>> runny nose

>> headache

>> body odor (bromos is Greek for stench) - occasional only with

>> herxheimer for me.

>> unusual urine odor - occasional only with herxheimer for me.

>> ureteral spasm, frequent urination (mistaken for urinary infection)

>>

>> And these were invoked after starting iodine.

>>

>> metallic taste - I developed this with MMS on high dose but it may

>> always have been related to bromine.

>> sinus ache

>> dry mouth

>> kidney pain

>>

>> Not sure if I expect that anyone can help me sort out what is the

>> best thing to do about all this but I guess my experience may come

>> in handy for someone.

>>

>> Thanks ..........LD

>

>

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" They are also low thyroid and toxicity. I had most of those

when under treated and poisoned by mercury.

Hi , You are right and they are the same symptoms for loads

of different conditions.

LD.

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The simplest thing to do is have your endocrine glands checked,as

all your symptoms are classic imbalanced gland signs. And stop

assuming you're all infected and toxic until it's proven. Such

negative thoughts will make you sicker. Get a good modern-thinking

doctor who knows about the Thyroid and Adrenal glands.

Marla

" you only used 1 tab of Iodoral?? I think 50mg

would

> be the minimum dose. I am doing well on 100mg per day. "

>

> Thanks for your replies Janet, Duke & Gracia.

>

> Janet, I have been dx'd with FMS for 17 years and followed the

guai

> protocol for 7 with ongoing exacerbation but no resolving of any

> (but a few minor) symptoms, prior to the Shoemaker, Flagyl,

Marshall

> & MMS protocols.

>

> My dx are: FMS;diabetes type ll; large bi-lateral, multi, fluid

> filled ovarian cysts (doctors present different views as to

whether

> I should have surgery due to said surgery being life threatening,

so

> I opted out); lymphoedema in legs; sleep apnea; hypothyroidism;

> obesity; chronic insomnia; tinnitus; urinary frequency, urgency,

> hampered by retention; night cramps & sometimes ribs; brain fog;

> etc. Although not dx'd with them, it's likely that I also have

> Borrelia burgdoferi and other infections.

>

> I have several theories regarding all those dx but suffice to say

I

> think they are all connected to a single bottom line cause, just

as

> Trevor Marshall theorises. The FMS dx came first but that is a

> syndrome and basically just means that you are dealing with a

myriad

> of symptoms which often get dx'd as separate conditions.

Retention

> of phosphates and other normal constituents is probably one part

of

> the picture and some people can purge the excesses with the

> guaifenesin protocol and can go back to living an almost normal

life

> but some only experience varying degrees of improvement, while

> others, like me, experience none. I also think that if you

release

> enough of the excesses that are blocking the ATP (body's energy),

> then your metabolism will start to normalise thus kick-starting

the

> immune system. This will in turn purge all sorts of infections

from

> the body. It may be that some of the infections need further

> treatments however. All this is conjecture of course.

>

> Duke, I imagine that fungus could be included in my list of issues

> and I took H202 years ago but the antifungal I took produced no

herx

> at all and no change in my symptoms. I took both selenium and

> undenatured whey for a long time but the latter also produced

> ongoing exacerbation at 1/8th tspn. I still take selenium along

> with silymarin, glycine, chromium, zinc, magnesium and magnesium

oil

> (topical application), Vit C and I have been experimenting

> with 'Holy Tea' for the past few weeks but it has produced no

> changes. Unless it actually caused the upsurge in my herxheimer

> response while taking MMS and iodine. Unlikely and I can't know

> that but I've stopped it to see if the occipital/cervical/head

> pressure eases off again. That's something that herx's on all

> protocols. I also did some FREX detoxing but I've stopped that

for

> a while cuz I think too many things can confuse the issue.

>

> Actually I do think all the above protocols work to purge whatever

I

> am dealing with but that the purging is ongoing and without pause

or

> lessening as one would expect. I do know others who have had the

> same experiences with these protocols though. In fact, after 2

> years on the Marshall protocol I stopped it and started to feel

> better. I'm not sure that it was better than before being dx'd

with

> FMS or just better because I'd stopped herxing.

>

> I may have the gene that Shoemaker theorises blocks the release of

> toxins or I may actually be inclined to release more toxins than

> most bodies could handle, i.e., the immune system is more

functional

> than my body can actually handle. Who knows?! I have been

> constipated for years so I take magnesium to keep my bowels

> functioning and have even taken senokot lately to ensure I release

> as much as possible via that avenue. I have an over sensitive

> bladder which is complicated by retension so I drink as much water

> as I can but it can become very problematic to have the water to

> void and yet find it difficult to do so. Nevertheless, I do drink

> as much water as my stomach can bear.

>

> I'm looking for a way to ensure that I release toxins and that

there

> is nothing else, such as the halides for instance, that are

causing

> my ongoing exacerbation/inflammation, and what I can do to deal

with

> the exacerbation that will actually work; and work without causing

> further exacerbation.

>

> I've done a few liver flushes (which obviously haven't helped so

> far) and have bought the paraphernalia to do some coffee enemas

but

> I have to wait for my sister to help with that as I'm too disabled

> to manage alone. It's tricky timing.

>

> Thanks for your replies .........Best wishes.

>

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Hi Shay, How did you know that you had mercury issues? Also, how did you know that iodine pushes mercury out of the body? The reason I ask is because I received massive vaccines while in the Army, and wonder how to get the mercury chelated. I was unaware that iodine did this. I can't do anything right now, because I am pregnant, but am planning on detoxing after baby is born. Thanks! bionic_chef <shay2384@...> wrote: LD,I

began taking lugols around 8 months ago. I took 50 mg per day for a few days, then, I could only tolerate 6.125 mg a day, else I would get tremendous headaches, brain fog, sinus pressure, congestion, and ringing in the ears. I am able to take 50 to 100 mg per day now, which indicates that the iodine helped push out the mercury that was the real culprit of my symptoms. I had brain fog so bad this year, that I could not study, and dropped a college course because of it. I was taking 12-25 mg per day in Feb, and trying to push up the iodine dosage. The iodine kept stirring up mercury and redistributing it, and it was not fun. I boosted up the iodine to 100 mg for a couple of days, and the brain fog and congestion was blasted away. I chased the iodine with 600mg doses of Alpha Lipoic Acid every three hours, and my body and brain got cleaned up pretty quickly. The ALA cleans up mercury that is disloged by the

iodine.Yes, I had the cloudy urine and BO, but that is all gone now. I normally take only 12 mg of lugols per day, but felt fantastic at the higher doses of 100 mg. I will probably boost my dose back up to 50-100 mg again. I have chelated mercury for nearly 2 years, so the mercury I blasted out was probably the tail end of a heavy body burden. If someone is pretty mercury toxic, I would start the iodine at a very low dose, because it really does push out the mercury, and that could cause some real symptoms.Shay

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Read these:

http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-08/IOD_08.htm

http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?page=LIST & ProdID=1781 & qid= & zTYPE=2

B.www.naturalthyroidchoices.com

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Hi Shay,

How did you know that you had mercury issues? Also, how did you know that iodine pushes mercury out of the body? The reason I ask is because I received massive vaccines while in the Army, and wonder how to get the mercury chelated. I was unaware that iodine did this. I can't do anything right now, because I am pregnant, but am planning on detoxing after baby is born.

Thanks!

bionic_chef <shay2384@...> wrote:

LD,I began taking lugols around 8 months ago. I took 50 mg per day for a few days, then, I could only tolerate 6.125 mg a day, else I would get tremendous headaches, brain fog, sinus pressure, congestion, and ringing in the ears. I am able to take 50 to 100 mg per day now, which indicates that the iodine helped push out the mercury that was the real culprit of my symptoms. I had brain fog so bad this year, that I could not study, and dropped a college course because of it. I was taking 12-25 mg per day in Feb, and trying to push up the iodine dosage. The iodine kept stirring up mercury and redistributing it, and it was not fun. I boosted up the iodine to 100 mg for a couple of days, and the brain fog and congestion was blasted away. I chased the iodine with 600mg doses of Alpha Lipoic Acid every three hours, and my body and brain got cleaned up pretty quickly. The ALA cleans up mercury that is disloged by the iodine.Yes, I had the cloudy urine and BO, but that is all gone now. I normally take only 12 mg of lugols per day, but felt fantastic at the higher doses of 100 mg. I will probably boost my dose back up to 50-100 mg again. I have chelated mercury for nearly 2 years, so the mercury I blasted out was probably the tail end of a heavy body burden. If someone is pretty mercury toxic, I would start the iodine at a very low dose, because it really does push out the mercury, and that could cause some real symptoms.Shay

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> Hi Shay,

> How did you know that you had mercury issues? Also, how did you

know that iodine pushes mercury out of the body? The reason I ask is

because I received massive vaccines while in the Army, and wonder how

to get the mercury chelated. I was unaware that iodine did this. I

can't do anything right now, because I am pregnant, but am planning

on detoxing after baby is born.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

Shay-

Hello , I had amalgams for years, and got them out in 01.

Then I tested with a urine challenge test at Doctors Data, and it

showed I still have mercury. I have chelated with dmsa and ala, but

mostly ala for two years, and had subsequent tests showing mercury

still present.

Getting those fillings out eliminated my allergies, arthritis and

tachycardia. But the mercury stays in the brain unless you take the

chelation meds. I had been taking the meds (ala) for a long time,

and rarely got the symptoms like I did at the beginning, then I began

dosing with iodine, and all the original mercury detox symptoms

returned big time. I had read Brownsteins work and watched his

videos in which he cites mercury displacement with iodine.

If you detox while nursing, the mercury could get to the milk.

It is wise to wait til later, but you probably do have some mercury

in the brain and body.

By the way, you don't have to let them vaccinate your baby. Lots and

lots of parents are refusing on philosophical or religious grounds.

I wish mine had.

Best wishes for you and your new child.

Shay

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Thanks, Shay! I appreciate your time. I know, all of this autism has got me mad and sad at the same time. There is no excuse to make people afraid if they decide not to do it. It our free choice. A choice I don't take lightly, especially since I was medically discharged from the Military because I got autoimmune from the vaccines. Thanks again! blessings, bionic_chef <shay2384@...> wrote: >> Hi Shay,> How did you know that you had mercury issues? Also, how did you know that iodine pushes mercury out of the body? The reason I ask is because I received massive vaccines while in the Army, and wonder how to get the mercury chelated. I was unaware that iodine did this. I can't do anything right now, because I am pregnant, but am planning on detoxing after baby is born.> > Thanks!> > Shay-Hello , I had amalgams for years, and got them out in 01. Then I tested with a urine challenge test at Doctors Data, and it showed I still have mercury. I have chelated with dmsa and ala, but mostly ala for two years, and had subsequent tests showing mercury still present. Getting those fillings out eliminated my allergies,

arthritis and tachycardia. But the mercury stays in the brain unless you take the chelation meds. I had been taking the meds (ala) for a long time, and rarely got the symptoms like I did at the beginning, then I began dosing with iodine, and all the original mercury detox symptoms returned big time. I had read Brownsteins work and watched his videos in which he cites mercury displacement with iodine.If you detox while nursing, the mercury could get to the milk.It is wise to wait til later, but you probably do have some mercury in the brain and body. By the way, you don't have to let them vaccinate your baby. Lots and lots of parents are refusing on philosophical or religious grounds. I wish mine had. Best wishes for you and your new child.Shay