Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 might have to do with dose/might have to do with needing iodide, not iodine. gracia If goiter is caused by iodine defiency, then why would taking iodine cause a goiter? This doesn't make sense to me. I have Dr. Brownstein's book, but he doesn't say anything about this. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 , this is one of the important controversies in the iodine literature. In most cases, low iodine (and/or high goitrogens) causes goiter. However, high iodine can also sometimes cause goiter -- which is then called Iodine-induced goiter. Similarly, low iodine contributes to hypothyroidism. However, high iodine can also sometimes cause hypothyroidism -- which is then called Iodine-induced hypothyroidism (IIH). Nobody quite knows why iodine can cause goiter and hypothyroidism. There is the Wolff-Chaikoff effect (that Abraham argues against, but that most people believe to be true). This is why I was so interested in that Chinese article on selenium that posted, because it seemed to say that selenium was an important factor in explaining iodine-induced goiter. Unfortunately, we have not yet been able to get a translation that is understandable. Iodine issues are never simple!!! This issue of iodine-induced thyroid diseases is at the heart of the conventional view on iodine -- i.e., too much iodine is dangerous. Even Abraham sees ideal iodine as falling in a range, with too little being bad and too much as also being problematic. Zoe If goiter is caused by iodine defiency, then why would taking iodine cause a goiter? This doesn't make sense to me. I have Dr. Brownstein's book, but he doesn't say anything about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 If you don't get relief from salt loading , back down on your iodine dose or maybe try pulse dosing until the symptoms abate. Personally I'd back the dose down and work your way back slower. If we miss a question about iodine, don't worry about posting and asking again. The list is very busy and the moderators have been tied up recently. Linn > > Hi everyone! > > I have been taking Iodoral for my goiters about two weeks. I started with 12,5 > mg, but after three days my thyroid gland got swollen. I had tips from here to > take bigger dose, and I went straigth to 50 mg. At first it felt okay, put now I > have feeling of hard pressure in my upper chest area and in thyroid gland and > pain in chest, pain is shifting its place. My heart is bounding, no palpitations > but won't let me sleep. I am taking all the supporting supplements and have been > doing salt loading tonight. Are these just detox symptoms, did I take too much > Iodoral or perhaps do I need more? Please help me, I am confused. > > Johanna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Hello Johanna, Not sure if you've had a reply yet. I too have a goitre (4 nodules, with suspected hyperT, but my blood tests keep changing, and my hair analysis test suggests I have hypoT). Anyway, I started on lugol's at 3% 4 weeks ago. I took 1 drop per day which is about 3mg of iodine (I think) and my goitre also swelled. Someone on this forum replied to my query and suggested that this is normal due to the goitre swelling in order to absorb all the essential nutrients now coming its way. I consequently continued taking 1 drop of Lugol's per day and the extra swelling of my goitre lasted for a couple of weeks before going back down to its usual size. Since then I have increased the dose by 1 drop each week. At the beginning of week 4 I increased the dose to around 12 mg of iodine a week so I switched to Iodoral, 1 tab at 12.5 mg. I took that daily for a week and everything was fine until yesterday when it was time to increase my dose again. Yesterday I took a 12.5 mg dose of iodoral plus one drop of lugol's at 3% (?approx 15.5 mg altogether) and my goitre is up like a balloon this morning, also I have a similar sensation as you regarding the hard feeling in upper chest and over my thyroid. I don't know if it's connected to my iodine increase as I also have a problem balancing my minerals (I have a bowel problem too), but I plan to reduce back down to 12.5 mg and stay on that another week or two before increasing the dose again. What I'm trying to say is that maybe you've started on too high a dose? Oh yes, are you taking any other supplements as well as iodine? When I started taking magnesium citrate in 200 mg capsules it felt like I'd swallowed a brick. It was very uncomfortable. The sensation moved from my stomach to my gut over a period of a few hours. I've now switched to magnesium bisglycinate 100mg tabs, in the hope that I can digest those. Hope you get some joy. Meadowsweet :-) > > Hi everyone! > > I have been taking Iodoral for my goiters about two weeks. I started with 12,5 > mg, but after three days my thyroid gland got swollen. I had tips from here to > take bigger dose, and I went straigth to 50 mg. At first it felt okay, put now I > have feeling of hard pressure in my upper chest area and in thyroid gland and > pain in chest, pain is shifting its place. My heart is bounding, no palpitations > but won't let me sleep. I am taking all the supporting supplements and have been > doing salt loading tonight. Are these just detox symptoms, did I take too much > Iodoral or perhaps do I need more? Please help me, I am confused. > > Johanna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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