Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 In a message dated 6/25/2006 5:04:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: never uses sunscreen, eats fatwith abandon, There is evidence that points to eating the wrong kind of fats is probably the cause to skin cancer. If you wish to read more about it you can go to www.westonaprice.org. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 In a message dated 6/25/2006 6:17:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, circe@... writes: I believe that. Fats I like are coconut oil, organic olive oil, raw butter from cows down the road. I heard about Weston A Price 30 years ago from my stepfather, who used to sit next to Adele at dinner parties. I think iodine might be important in skin cancer prevention too. And vitamin D too. gracia I agree with all those things, and I believe you have it right with the fats! Those are all recommendations of the foundation. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 >From: " sharflin " <sharflin@...> >At present however, most experts agree that any theoretical thyroid >risks of sunscreen outweigh the known benefits. >Professor Köhrle suggested that people not give up sunscreen, but >instead, make sure their diet includes enough iodine. That would be valid if thyroid was the only issue on sunscreen. The fact it blocks Vitamin D production is also quite an important reason to be sure to get some sun with no sunscreen on. Burning is bad, but so is no sun on the skin. Most people in the USA are deficient in Vitamin D. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Totally, what Skipper says. I would never use sunscreen b/c of the sun's healing powers. Egads add that to the list--never uses sunscreen, eats fat with abandon, uses cortisol and testosterone. gracia > > > >>From: " sharflin " <sharflin@...> > >>At present however, most experts agree that any theoretical thyroid >>risks of sunscreen outweigh the known benefits. >>Professor Köhrle suggested that people not give up sunscreen, but >>instead, make sure their diet includes enough iodine. > > > That would be valid if thyroid was the only issue on sunscreen. The fact > it > blocks Vitamin D production is also quite an important reason to be sure > to > get some sun with no sunscreen on. Burning is bad, but so is no sun on > the > skin. Most people in the USA are deficient in Vitamin D. > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 >>Egads add that to the list--never uses sunscreen, eats fat with abandon, uses cortisol and testosterone.<< You eating sea salt yet? LOL -- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 On 6/25/06, Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote: > > > > >From: " sharflin " <sharflin@...> > > >At present however, most experts agree that any theoretical thyroid > >risks of sunscreen outweigh the known benefits. > >Professor Köhrle suggested that people not give up sunscreen, but > >instead, make sure their diet includes enough iodine. > > > That would be valid if thyroid was the only issue on sunscreen. The fact it > blocks Vitamin D production is also quite an important reason to be sure to > get some sun with no sunscreen on. Burning is bad, but so is no sun on the > skin. Most people in the USA are deficient in Vitamin D. > > Skipper Use of sunscreen is also linked to increased skin cancer because of vitamin D defficiencies. So the sunscreen which is supposed to prevent skin ancer actually causes it in some people. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 I have a salt lick in the kitchen LOL gracia >>Egads add that to the list--never uses sunscreen, eats fatwith abandon, uses cortisol and testosterone.<<You eating sea salt yet? LOL-- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WVMy Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 I believe that. Fats I like are coconut oil, organic olive oil, raw butter from cows down the road. I heard about Weston A Price 30 years ago from my stepfather, who used to sit next to Adele at dinner parties. I think iodine might be important in skin cancer prevention too. And vitamin D too. gracia In a message dated 6/25/2006 5:04:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: never uses sunscreen, eats fatwith abandon, There is evidence that points to eating the wrong kind of fats is probably the cause to skin cancer. If you wish to read more about it you can go to www.westonaprice.org. Bonnie No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 It is important that UV light from the sun also enters the eye. The Penial gland requires modulation for the high frequency of UV light in order to function properly. Sun glasses or any glass other than quartz will not transmit UV light. Contrary to popular opinion, watching welding arcs is not hazardous to the eyes but isn't a good idea as too much can cause conjunctivitis. Not a permanent problem and no damage occurs. Contact lenses and glasses should be UV transmitting. I know that there is one brand of contact lenses made to transmit UV radiations and I bet its plastic. I expose myself to electric carbon arc radiation on a regular basis to produce vitamin C as I don't like going out doors in the climate I live in as it is usually too hot, humid, or cold. A 5 minute exposure is equivalent to about 1/2 hour of direct sunlight. My article about this is in the current June-July 2006 issue of Nexus Magazine. -- Re: Can Sunscreen Make You Hypothroid? On 6/25/06, Skipper Beers <lsb149hotmail> wrote:>>>> >From: "sharflin" <sharflincomcast (DOT) net>>> >At present however, most experts agree that any theoretical thyroid> >risks of sunscreen outweigh the known benefits.> >Professor Köhrle suggested that people not give up sunscreen, but> >instead, make sure their diet includes enough iodine.>>> That would be valid if thyroid was the only issue on sunscreen. The fact it> blocks Vitamin D production is also quite an important reason to be sure to> get some sun with no sunscreen on. Burning is bad, but so is no sun on the> skin. Most people in the USA are deficient in Vitamin D.>> SkipperUse of sunscreen is also linked to increased skin cancer because ofvitamin D defficiencies. So the sunscreen which is supposed toprevent skin ancer actually causes it in some people.Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 I expose myself to electric carbon arc radiation on a regular basis to > produce vitamin C as I don't like going out doors in the climate I live in > as it is usually too hot, humid, or cold. A 5 minute exposure is equivalent > to about 1/2 hour of direct sunlight. Could you explain this a bit more? I've never heard of it. I'll also look forward to your article in Nexus ...hopefully they'll put it online. Thanks Lynn > > My article about this is in the current June-July 2006 issue of Nexus > Magazine. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Carbon arc does not have the same spectrum as sunlight. Carbon arc has much more of the more dangerous vedry short wave UV light. I assume your comment about vitamin C is a mis-typing since UV light stimutates Vitamin D, not C. Alobar On 6/25/06, comdyne@... <comdyne@...> wrote: > > > > > It is important that UV light from the sun also enters the eye. The Penial gland requires modulation for the high frequency of UV light in order to function properly. Sun glasses or any glass other than quartz will not transmit UV light. Contrary to popular opinion, watching welding arcs is not hazardous to the eyes but isn't a good idea as too much can cause conjunctivitis. Not a permanent problem and no damage occurs. Contact lenses and glasses should be UV transmitting. I know that there is one brand of contact lenses made to transmit UV radiations and I bet its plastic. > > I expose myself to electric carbon arc radiation on a regular basis to produce vitamin C as I don't like going out doors in the climate I live in as it is usually too hot, humid, or cold. A 5 minute exposure is equivalent to about 1/2 hour of direct sunlight. > > My article about this is in the current June-July 2006 issue of Nexus Magazine. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 You obviously have never been flashed by a welding arc. You wanna talk about pain. You are out of commission for the day with water running from your eyes as you deal with what feels like gravel in your eyes. Conjunctivitis (pinkeye) does not quite describe getting flashed. " Welding arcs emit both IR and UV wavelengths of light. Unprotected from this light, both eye damage and discomfort can occur. " http://www.lincolnelectric.com/knowledge/articles/content/weldinglenses.asp Whether the part about damage is true or not... the pain is real. --- " comdyne@... " <comdyne@...> wrote: > It is important that UV light from the sun also enters the eye. The Penial > gland requires modulation for the high frequency of UV light in order to > function properly. Sun glasses or any glass other than quartz will not > transmit UV light. Contrary to popular opinion, watching welding arcs is not > hazardous to the eyes but isn't a good idea as too much can cause > conjunctivitis. Not a permanent problem and no damage occurs. Contact lenses > and glasses should be UV transmitting. I know that there is one brand of > contact lenses made to transmit UV radiations and I bet its plastic. > > I expose myself to electric carbon arc radiation on a regular basis to > produce vitamin C as I don't like going out doors in the climate I live in > as it is usually too hot, humid, or cold. A 5 minute exposure is equivalent > to about 1/2 hour of direct sunlight. > > My article about this is in the current June-July 2006 issue of Nexus > Magazine. > > -- Re: Can Sunscreen Make You Hypothroid? > > On 6/25/06, Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > >From: " sharflin " <sharflin@...> > > > > >At present however, most experts agree that any theoretical thyroid > > >risks of sunscreen outweigh the known benefits. > > >Professor Köhrle suggested that people not give up sunscreen, but > > >instead, make sure their diet includes enough iodine. > > > > > > That would be valid if thyroid was the only issue on sunscreen. The fact > it > > blocks Vitamin D production is also quite an important reason to be sure > to > > get some sun with no sunscreen on. Burning is bad, but so is no sun on the > > skin. Most people in the USA are deficient in Vitamin D. > > > > Skipper > > Use of sunscreen is also linked to increased skin cancer because of > vitamin D defficiencies. So the sunscreen which is supposed to > prevent skin ancer actually causes it in some people. > > Alobar > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 The energy from he flame of the carbon arc is broad-spectrum. Similar to the Lakhovsky effect. The waves contain a significant amount of shock wave energy at close proximity. Normally I remain about 18 inches from the fire which is adequate for absorption of the UV frequencies. I do not shield my eyes but keep them open looking away from the bright light. The frequency range apparently causes resonant energy to shake apart the body of the tape worm. I did this three times over the course of about 18 months to be sure that it was the single exposures to the flame up close that was responsible for the creation of shards of tape worm body material. No where in the early history of the use of the arc light in medicine did I find a reference to this specific phenomenon. Carbon arc lamps were one a common appliance in medical offices but were forced into disuse when big pharma organized medicine into a criminal enterprise which remains fully in tact today. Licensing forced doctors to stop using energy to treat and often cure disease. The money is in the drugs, not with pennies worth of electricity. For those interested there are several groups on that deal with 'Rife' energy. This was a technology invented by Dr. Royal Rife, Jr. That used electronic resonating frequencies to break up disease pathogens. The technology was highly suppressed and we have not been able to fully duplicate it, yet many are getting excellent results in treating diseases with the technology. I suspect that Gene Roddenberry got the idea for the Tri-Corder in Star Trek from Rife technology. Lakhovsky, as I mentioned earlier was a similar technology to Rife's developments. I have used both and obtained good results. -- Re: Can Sunscreen Make You Hypothroid? I expose myself to electric carbon arc radiation on a regular basis to> produce vitamin C as I don't like going out doors in the climate Ilive in> as it is usually too hot, humid, or cold. A 5 minute exposure isequivalent> to about 1/2 hour of direct sunlight.Could you explain this a bit more? I've never heard of it.I'll also look forward to your article in Nexus ...hopefully they'll putit online.ThanksLynn>> My article about this is in the current June-July 2006 issue of Nexus> Magazine.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Yes, I meant vitamin D. UV light is not at all dangerous. This is a misconception and a scare tactic used by the media. Over-exposure is dangerous, of course, but mild timed exposures have a profound effect upon the chemical make-up of the body fluids. There were many books published at the beginning of the last century specifically using light energy, primarily UV light, to treat a wide variety of diseases. This was prior to the establishment of the drug cartel. The terms heliotherapy (using sun light) and actinotherapy (carbon arc & mercury vapor) using the radiations of UV light were extremely effective. I use UV-C extensively and have obtained spectacular results with it. Toe nail fungus, psoriasis, TB and a long list of other diseases responded to this form of therapy. I imprinted petrollium jelly with it and eradicated cea. Today UV is being used on a limited basis in conjunction with dyes such as methaline blue and newer photo-reactive substances to treat cancer. In the 40s a treatment of the blood known as UBI (Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation) was highly effective in treating TB, Cancer and other disease and was far superior to anything used in medicine today. Many of the hospital acquired infections that are now epidemic, can be eradicated using this simple technology which medicine refuses to approve because of its potential impact on revenue. Many people die needlessly because of simple greed. Dr. wrote a book about it called 'Into The Light'. It is currently in print. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9962636272/sr=8-2/qid=1151303545/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-2188546-5404826?ie=UTF8 The 1903 Nobel Prize was awarded Niels Ryberg Finsen for developing a cure for lupus vulgaris using carbon arc light passed through a blue water-cooled filter. http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0818718.html The carbon arc closely resembles sunlight but has a greater level of energy in the UV end of the spectrum. Carbon impreginated with tungsten is almost identical in the spectral output of the sun with a greater amount of energy in the UV end. Sunlight does not contain much UV-C which is germicidal, due to the pollution and density of the air. The ozone layer is produced by the UV -C part of the spectrum between at 195 to 345 nm. A large emission peak is at about 187.9 nanometers as I recall. -- Re: Can Sunscreen Make You Hypothroid? Carbon arc does not have the same spectrum as sunlight.Carbon arc has much more of the more dangerous vedry short wave UVlight. I assume your comment about vitamin C is a mis-typing sinceUV light stimutates Vitamin D, not C.AlobarOn 6/25/06, comdyneiac (DOT) net <comdyneintcom (DOT) net> wrote:>>>>> It is important that UV light from the sun also enters the eye. The Penial gland requires modulation for the high frequency of UV light in order to function properly. Sun glasses or any glass other than quartz will not transmit UV light. Contrary to popular opinion, watching welding arcs is not hazardous to the eyes but isn't a good idea as too much can cause conjunctivitis. Not a permanent problem and no damage occurs. Contact lenses and glasses should be UV transmitting. I know that there is one brand of contact lenses made to transmit UV radiations and I bet its plastic.>> I expose myself to electric carbon arc radiation on a regular basis to produce vitamin C as I don't like going out doors in the climate I live in as it is usually too hot, humid, or cold. A 5 minute exposure is equivalent to about 1/2 hour of direct sunlight.>> My article about this is in the current June-July 2006 issue of Nexus Magazine.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I didn't say it was advisable to look at the arc light, and of course, over exposure will cause arithma (burns). The eyes are not permanently damaged by UV light. We are talking about exposures as specific distances in time increments of 15 seconds each and seldom exceeding 3 minutes total depending upon skin sensitivity which must be measured with test exposure strips. Holes in cardboard were illuminated which were uncovered every 15 seconds. After 24 hours the skin was examined for redness in order to determine the exposure limits for each patient. A 1500 watt incandescent lamp was used for a period of about 1/2 hour prior to exposure with UV. This brought blood into the skin capillaries and opened the pores as the UV light is highly directional. The results impacted disease deep inside the body, it was not primarily a topical treatment. The effects were systemic. -- Re: Can Sunscreen Make You Hypothroid?> > On 6/25/06, Skipper Beers <lsb149hotmail> wrote:> >> >> >> > >From: "sharflin" <sharflincomcast (DOT) net>> >> > >At present however, most experts agree that any theoretical thyroid> > >risks of sunscreen outweigh the known benefits.> > >Professor Köhrle suggested that people not give up sunscreen, but> > >instead, make sure their diet includes enough iodine.> >> >> > That would be valid if thyroid was the only issue on sunscreen. The fact> it> > blocks Vitamin D production is also quite an important reason to be sure> to> > get some sun with no sunscreen on. Burning is bad, but so is no sun on the> > skin. Most people in the USA are deficient in Vitamin D.> >> > Skipper> > Use of sunscreen is also linked to increased skin cancer because of> vitamin D defficiencies. So the sunscreen which is supposed to> prevent skin ancer actually causes it in some people.> > Alobar> > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 You get about 400 I.U. of Vit D2 from a glass of milk. You make in your skin approximately 10,000 I.U. of Vit D3 when you expose your body to sunlight for approximately 1/2 hour. Vit D3 is a misnomer as it is actually not a vitamin at all. It's a hormone , or pre-hormone to be exact. Vit D3 is essential for the manufacture of many other hormones including testosterone and estrogens and is stored in the liver. It should be of no surprise that anything which blocks out the U.V. rays to prevent the manufacture of Vit D3 is going to be a hormone disruptor. Through a million years of evolution we would not have been made to have the ability to manufacture 10,000 I.U. of Vit D3 through the process of photosynthesis (just like the plants do) if it were not necessary and vital to our survival. There are numerous studies now out that indicate strongly that Vit D3 deficiency can lead to many of the internal cancers of various organs that require brutal and disfiguring surgery and chemotherapy and are mostly incurable. Over 90 pct of the skin cancers believed to be caused by the Sun are easily curable. Melanoma is the only really dangerous form of skin cancer and it amounts for less than 5 pct of all skin cancers. Also, there have been studies that have shown that people who work in the sun have a far less incidence of all skin cancers than do people who get no sun or only sporadically. Further, that those who do get Melanoma have a much better prognosis if they have sufficient levels of Vit D3 and those that do not have a much worse prognosis. All skin cancers are dangerous. What I meant was that the other forms of skin cancer can be easily cured with little or no disfigurment. Of course if you got something growing out of you and you ignore it that is another matter altogether. Most Melanoma's appear on the soles of the feet and the palms of the hands or on other places of the body which rarely if ever get exposed to the sun. Your body needs the sun. We evolved in the sun near the equator and for 99 pct of our existence on this planet we lived near the equator and ran around naked or nearly naked. Something to consider. There is nothing moderate or rational to have dermatologists running around telling everyone to stay out of the sun entirely. It's shrill it's hysterical and it simply isn't true. bob __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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