Has anyone had high cortisol results?

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Hi

I have had all of the symptoms of low adrenal reserve - with the most

bothersome being unable to raise thyroxine/armour without getting

really horrid internal shivering/diarrhea/insomnia/waking early

feeling v anxious. However recent saliva results came back at over

normal range in all but mid afternoon tests.

10 days into 1 grain, and suddenly my temp has shot up by a degree to

normal (was around 36 two days ago, now 37) and I am getting the

internal shivering again and waking feeling anxious. At the same

time, my arms are tired from blow drying my hair and my joints ache.

My pulse is slightly higher than my normal slow 63, but still normal

at about 73 to 80. Same with my BP - normally around 100/65 but now

about 110/75.

The thing is I know it's not that I don't need thyroid meds as I had

a TSH of 16 2 months ago on 100mcg thyroxine. It has been worse on

Armour, but I did get some with thyroxine which did settle down.

Last time I had to stop all meds for 2 weeks and kind of felt myself

come down slowly.

Has anyone had the same problem? What worked for you? Getting a

really fed up and disillusioned at the moment as I don't seem to be

making any progress and I'm feeling very isolated about all of it.

Am starting to wonder whether I should just go back onto thyroxine,

wait for it to work and accept my lot ( and poss the GP's depression

anxiety diagnosis)...

Any help/advice much appreicated

Leah x

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Hi Leah

All I can really do is compare what I am doing. I have normal to high

cortisol tea time and when should be low at night it skyrockets up,

but low and under range morning and dinner time. What I do is I take

adrenal cortex extracts (not medulla extracts) in the form of drops

under my tongue 3 times a day morning to about tea time and if I get

really stressed out I rub some hydrocortisone cream on my wrists (or

other places if I want it to work longer like for sleep.

Have you thought about your blood sugar, does eating a carb snack help

you at all? I have been having horrendous times with glucose to the

brain problems and the adrenalin shoots up to try and realease glucose

from the liver if sluggish.

Are you on optimum thyroid treatment yet?

What supplements are you doing?

So many questions lol.

God bless hon

Dawnx

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Hi Dawn

Thanks for replying. I am nowhere near optimum thyroid treatment at

all. This is the problem - I am still feeling very hypo, I am only

on 1 grain - and I am certain I need more.

I have been taking Vit C, and CO Q10 and some multivitamins. I have

tried Nutri Adrenal, and I have tried Adrenal Dynamite. The first

made me feel awful, the second gives me niacin flushing after the 3rd

dose both times I have tried it. I am pretty sure it's not related to

my blood sugar - although ther have been diabetes question marks

which have been ruled out.

Have you had similar problems raising the armour?

I'm wondering if maybe I am not tolerating the T3? I should add to

this that I am one of the rare people who have lost weight not gained

it since my TSH etc. went doolally.

I just don't know what to do. My GP has no advice for me regarding

Armour, and I feel so poorly still. I would go and see Dr P but he

has no clinics remotely near me till the end of August.

Leah x

>

> Hi Leah

>

> All I can really do is compare what I am doing. I have normal to

high

> cortisol tea time and when should be low at night it skyrockets up,

> but low and under range morning and dinner time. What I do is I take

> adrenal cortex extracts (not medulla extracts) in the form of drops

> under my tongue 3 times a day morning to about tea time and if I get

> really stressed out I rub some hydrocortisone cream on my wrists (or

> other places if I want it to work longer like for sleep.

> Have you thought about your blood sugar, does eating a carb snack

help

> you at all? I have been having horrendous times with glucose to the

> brain problems and the adrenalin shoots up to try and realease

glucose

> from the liver if sluggish.

> Are you on optimum thyroid treatment yet?

> What supplements are you doing?

> So many questions lol.

>

> God bless hon

> Dawnx

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Leah

Have you read Shomon's "15 Reasons why your TSH may be Fluctuating" http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/tsh-fluctuating.htm

Luv - sheila>> Hi> > I have had all of the symptoms of low adrenal reserve - with the most > bothersome being unable to raise thyroxine/armour without getting > really horrid internal shivering/diarrhea/insomnia/waking early > feeling v anxious. However recent saliva results came back at over > normal range in all but mid afternoon tests.> > 10 days into 1 grain, and suddenly my temp has shot up by a degree to > normal (was around 36 two days ago, now 37) and I am getting the > internal shivering again and waking feeling anxious. At the same > time, my arms are tired from blow drying my hair and my joints ache. > My pulse is slightly higher than my normal slow 63, but still normal > at about 73 to 80. Same with my BP - normally around 100/65 but now > about 110/75.> > The thing is I know it's not that I don't need thyroid meds as I had > a TSH of 16 2 months ago on 100mcg thyroxine. It has been worse on > Armour, but I did get some with thyroxine which did settle down. > Last time I had to stop all meds for 2 weeks and kind of felt myself > come down slowly.> > Has anyone had the same problem? What worked for you? Getting a > really fed up and disillusioned at the moment as I don't seem to be > making any progress and I'm feeling very isolated about all of it. > Am starting to wonder whether I should just go back onto thyroxine, > wait for it to work and accept my lot ( and poss the GP's depression > anxiety diagnosis)...> > Any help/advice much appreicated> > Leah x>

[Guest guest]

Hi Leole,

Are you taking any adrenal support? You sound very much as if you

need it. Don't give up some of us take longer to get it right than others.

Subject: Has anyone had high cortisol results?

Hi

I have had all of the symptoms of low adrenal reserve - with the most

bothersome being unable to raise thyroxine/armour without getting

really horrid internal shivering/diarrhea/insomnia/waking early

feeling v anxious. However recent saliva results came back at over

normal range in all but mid afternoon tests.

Has anyone had the same problem? What worked for you? Getting a

really fed up and disillusioned at the moment as I don't seem to be

making any progress and I'm feeling very isolated about all of it.

Am starting to wonder whether I should just go back onto thyroxine,

wait for it to work and accept my lot ( and poss the GP's depression

anxiety diagnosis)...

Any help/advice much appreicated

Leah x

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Hi Leah

Yes, high Cortisol, desperately in need of Thyroid Meds, Hypo diagnose from Dr P, but no thyroid meds work - been there, done that !

Also, like you say, extremely annoying - but don't give up. On last seeing Dr P after twelve months, he was wandering what on earth to do with me as nothing worked. He then suggested Natural Progesterone Cream for 'Oestrogen Dominance' syndrome and well, I shouldn't speak too soon, but been on it three months and although only taking a small amount of T3, 'something' has suddenly started to work, abiet slowing and I am sure it will take months, but I can put up if I can see progress. If you read up on Oestrogen Dominance, you will see amazingly that all the symptoms either cross over or are similar to Hypo T or low adrenal - the most important being if one's female hormones aren't balanced then Thryoid Meds cannot get into the cells and uptake properly.

See what you think - only a thought, as everyone is different in the cause of their Hypo symptoms, hence the reason why GP's can't understand or interpret the TFT results we have that are all 'normal'.

Good luck

J

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Hi

I can second that. The symptoms of estrogen dominance and hypoT do

cross over. I started using natural progesterone cream in 2006 and

after a while some of the symptoms of hypoT became less severe.

Dr P told me to take Nutri Adrenal and other hypoT symptoms became less

severe and a couple even stopped.

This hypoT thingy is very time consuming unfortunately - all trial and

error and wait and see.

Me and the Nutri Adrenal did not get on well at first so I took a very

low dose - half a tablet - and gradually increased over several weeks -

I am glad I persevered.

B

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Hi

You have no idea how pleased I am that you are beginning to see some

improvement at last after all the months when nothing has worked for you

at all. I am doubly delighted because, if you remember, it was me who

questionned whether you were oestrogen dominant and needed to balance

this out with some natural progesterone - so, if this was your previous

problem, I am gonna give myself a big pat on the back. Seriously though,

I hope you continue to make progress and that Dr P will, for the first

time, see what a different person you are the next time he see him.

Luv - Sheila

>

>

> Hi Leah

> & nbsp;

> Yes, high Cortisol, desperately in need of Thyroid Meds, Hypo diagnose

from Dr P, but no thyroid meds work - been there, done that !

> Also, like you say, extremely annoying - but don't give

up. & nbsp; & nbsp; On last seeing Dr P after twelve months, he was

wandering what on earth to do with me as nothing worked. & nbsp; He then

suggested Natural Progesterone Cream for 'Oestrogen Dominance' syndrome

and well, I shouldn't speak too soon, but been on it three months and

although only taking a small amount of T3, 'something' has suddenly

started to work, abiet slowing and I am sure it will take months, but I

can put up if I can see progress. & nbsp; & nbsp; If you read up on

Oestrogen Dominance, you will see amazingly that all the symptoms either

cross over or are similar to Hypo T or low adrenal - the most important

being if one's female hormones aren't balanced then Thryoid Meds cannot

get into the cells and uptake properly. & nbsp;

> See what you think - only a thought, as everyone is different in the

cause of their Hypo symptoms, hence the reason why GP's can't understand

or interpret the TFT results we have that are all 'normal'.

> & nbsp;

> Good luck

> J

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Hi Lelole

The anxiety is a problem with me yes, it started about 7 days after

going up to 1 grain, I supplemented with adrenal cortex drops and

hydrocortisone cream to get it up to 1 1/2 grains. I am holding here

until I have my bloods done now, been on it a few weeks. I know I need

it because I am able to do so many thinks I could not do before

(breathe for one lol, absolute necessity )

I really think it is either blood sugar related or 'brain hypoglycema'

which I am about to start researching. The doc has decided not to do

my insulin and glucose tolerence test and he has said I have to try

and convince a consultant to do it, so here I go again fighting

grrrrrrrr.. they best be careful I bite lol.

One thing I have realised through all this is there is far more to it

than we realise before we embark on our treatments especially if you

are on other meds prescribed by the doctor. Also I feel if your body

has been limping along on inadequate treatment, actually getting the

body going again can unmask problems you did not realise that you had,

or problems which will only resolve over time once the body has

everything it needs to heal itself.

I have had some horrendous symptoms lelole and some terrible days both

before and during trying the armour. Sometimes I panic about it, other

times I just think, oh right, another darn symptom what can I do about

this one? The only support I have is from the forum, nothing at all

from the NHS which is really disgusting.

I hope you can get better soon, research, research, questions, and

trial within safe perameters is all we can do really.

lotsa luv

Dawnx

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Hi all, many thanks to all of you who replied to my post a couple of

days ago.

I ahve two apologies firstly I wasn't able to reply because my

broadband went down for a while.

And secondly, it appears that I may have jumped the gun a bit! My

temperature stayed high for a couple of days and during that time I

felt AWFUL - really achey all over and exhausted so of course I

thought - ADRENALS...and panicked because I was so worried I would go

toxic again and have to give in and go back on thyroxine. However it

all returned to normal (well not normal, but back to usual low 36's

temp) over the last few days, so think it may have been I was

actually running a temperature for some reason!

So things are going OK again now, and I have been taking an extra 1/4

grain for the last 2 days with no ill effects.

So thank you all so much for being so kind and trying to help!!!

Next time I'll try not to panic at the first sign of adversity...

LOve Leah x

>

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Hi Dawn

I've half replied on the other post - the upshot being - I'm fine!

Whatever caused it resolved on it's own quite quickly. I think you

are right it is such a complicated thing, and so many of the hormones

that control the body are delicately interlinked, that sometimes I

feel like we are trying to fix a delicate instrument with a

lumphammer!

I am also so grateful to this forum and the support I get here as I

do feel otherwise completely alone... I'm glad you have been feeling

better (breathing is good!) as it sounds like you've had it

particularly rough...

When's you blood test? Good luck with it..

Leah x

>

> Hi Lelole

>

> The anxiety is a problem with me yes, it started about 7 days after

> going up to 1 grain, I supplemented with adrenal cortex drops and

> hydrocortisone cream to get it up to 1 1/2 grains. I am holding here

> until I have my bloods done now, been on it a few weeks. I know I

need

> it because I am able to do so many thinks I could not do before

> (breathe for one lol, absolute necessity )

>

> I really think it is either blood sugar related or 'brain

hypoglycema'

> which I am about to start researching. The doc has decided not to do

> my insulin and glucose tolerence test and he has said I have to try

> and convince a consultant to do it, so here I go again fighting

> grrrrrrrr.. they best be careful I bite lol.

>

> One thing I have realised through all this is there is far more to

it

> than we realise before we embark on our treatments especially if you

> are on other meds prescribed by the doctor. Also I feel if your body

> has been limping along on inadequate treatment, actually getting the

> body going again can unmask problems you did not realise that you

had,

> or problems which will only resolve over time once the body has

> everything it needs to heal itself.

>

> I have had some horrendous symptoms lelole and some terrible days

both

> before and during trying the armour. Sometimes I panic about it,

other

> times I just think, oh right, another darn symptom what can I do

about

> this one? The only support I have is from the forum, nothing at all

> from the NHS which is really disgusting.

>

> I hope you can get better soon, research, research, questions, and

> trial within safe perameters is all we can do really.

>

> lotsa luv

> Dawnx

>

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Long may it continue Leah - I sincerely hope this is the start of your

new road to better health. Things can only go up from here after you

have been down for so long.

Luv - Sheila

>

> Hi all, many thanks to all of you who replied to my post a couple of

> days ago.

>

> I ahve two apologies firstly I wasn't able to reply because my

> broadband went down for a while.

>

> And secondly, it appears that I may have jumped the gun a bit! My

> temperature stayed high for a couple of days and during that time I

> felt AWFUL - really achey all over and exhausted so of course I

> thought - ADRENALS...and panicked because I was so worried I would go

> toxic again and have to give in and go back on thyroxine. However it

> all returned to normal (well not normal, but back to usual low 36's

> temp) over the last few days, so think it may have been I was

> actually running a temperature for some reason!

>

> So things are going OK again now, and I have been taking an extra 1/4

> grain for the last 2 days with no ill effects.

>

> So thank you all so much for being so kind and trying to help!!!

> Next time I'll try not to panic at the first sign of adversity...

>

> LOve Leah x

>

> >

>