Re: Re: New - PLEASE any input

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I think the best way to know if there are stones in your gallbladder

is to do Hulda clarks liver gallbladder/ flush and see what comes out ,

probably cheaper then the ultra sound , catscan and mri , the diagnosis

is also the cure.

tina83862 wrote:

> Well stones in the kidney are usually calcium based and you can have

> calcium based stones in the gallbladder as well. Fyi drink a lot

> more water is one way to help here---(hubby has kidney stones)

>

> but not all kidney stones can be passed easily and I am surprised

> they are not doing more for you.

>

> Especially if you have a stuck kidney stone. This site will help-

>

> http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/stonesadults/

>

> Make sure when you have this next cat scan they scan your

> gallbladder as well---I had it all done----kidney, liver, GB and

> female parts.

>

> and only had stones in my GB. MUST TELL THEM YOU WANT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> the only way to know if you have stones in the GB is a ultrasound,

> catscan or MRI.

>

> so no one can really guess because your pain can all be just from

> the kidney alone!!!!!!!!!!

>

> and the kidney pain is very painfull----they should be doing more

> for you!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> I would go to another hospital---just my opinion----tina

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi guys -

> >

> > This may get lengthy, but I need some insight from REAL people.

> >

> > One month ago exactly I went to the ER with severe and sudden

> > abdominal pains (in my right side and upper abdomin, right above

> my

> > belly button). After ruling out appendicitis, they kicked me to

> the

> > curb after finding a 2mm kidney stone sitting in my right kidney,

> > citing that as the primary problem.

> >

> > A week after that, still in pain, just not as severe, I went to a

> > urologist, who told me my pain was coming from what he thought may

> be

> > a ruptured ovarian cyst. Okkkay. Went to my gyno who simply

> > said, " If thats what he thinks it was, thats what it was " . Great.

> >

> > Two weeks after that, still in pain, and now the pain started

> moving

> > to my back, to right behind my right kidney. Go to a second

> > urologist for second opinion. He thinks I " pulled a muscle " .

> Sent

> > me for a second CT scan to see if my kidney stone was moving

> around

> > causing the pain. Of course it wasnt. Just sitting there, nice

> and

> > stuck.

> >

> > Now things are getting very bad. The pain radiated to below my

> right

> > shoulder blade, and for the past 3 days the pain has been so bad

> in

> > the center of my upper back that I can barely stand to sit at my

> > computer at work. I feel a pressure on my chest. Still having

> pains

> > on my right side/right back. I have lost 10 pounds (which can

> look

> > like a lot on someone that was originally only 120 pounds). I

> feal

> > nauseaus every day, I am crying every day. I feel [very badly -

> edited by moderator, please try and keep it clean . Thanks].

> Excuse my language. [no excuse needed if you keep it clean...]

> >

> > I go tomorrow for a sonogram, for whatever reason. I have spoken

> > with some friends who have had the gallbladder disease problems

> who

> > say I should have a HIDA scan done.

> >

> > I really just wanted to get some feedback from you guys - does

> this

> > sound gallbladder related? Like anythign you have gone through.

> >

> > I appreciate any advice and input.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Tina - I have had two CT scans, the stone is very small and should pass with no

problem. I do not have any stones in my uretur, and show no symptoms or signs

of having passed a stone, or having a stone in my bladder. I go for a sonogram

tomorrow (woopee), but I plan on getting a HIDA scan as soon as possible. I

seriously feel as though I am dying.

Thanks for all of the information so far.

tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote:

Only problem here is that cheaper is not always safe. If she has a

stuck stone in her kidney depending on the size it may not pass and

it should therefore be decreased in size and that can mean trying

different options.

Most doctors will allow you to pass kidney stones unless they are

very large---hubby had to take a lot of pain pills until his passed.

But this is not every case.

It's important to always have all the info before you risk your

health and life!!!!And money should never been an issue!!!!!!

> > >

> > > Hi guys -

> > >

> > > This may get lengthy, but I need some insight from REAL people.

> > >

> > > One month ago exactly I went to the ER with severe and sudden

> > > abdominal pains (in my right side and upper abdomin, right

above

> > my

> > > belly button). After ruling out appendicitis, they kicked me

to

> > the

> > > curb after finding a 2mm kidney stone sitting in my right

kidney,

> > > citing that as the primary problem.

> > >

> > > A week after that, still in pain, just not as severe, I went

to a

> > > urologist, who told me my pain was coming from what he thought

may

> > be

> > > a ruptured ovarian cyst. Okkkay. Went to my gyno who simply

> > > said, " If thats what he thinks it was, thats what it was " .

Great.

> > >

> > > Two weeks after that, still in pain, and now the pain started

> > moving

> > > to my back, to right behind my right kidney. Go to a second

> > > urologist for second opinion. He thinks I " pulled a muscle " .

> > Sent

> > > me for a second CT scan to see if my kidney stone was moving

> > around

> > > causing the pain. Of course it wasnt. Just sitting there,

nice

> > and

> > > stuck.

> > >

> > > Now things are getting very bad. The pain radiated to below my

> > right

> > > shoulder blade, and for the past 3 days the pain has been so

bad

> > in

> > > the center of my upper back that I can barely stand to sit at

my

> > > computer at work. I feel a pressure on my chest. Still having

> > pains

> > > on my right side/right back. I have lost 10 pounds (which can

> > look

> > > like a lot on someone that was originally only 120 pounds). I

> > feal

> > > nauseaus every day, I am crying every day. I feel [very

badly -

> > edited by moderator, please try and keep it clean .

Thanks].

> > Excuse my language. [no excuse needed if you keep it clean...]

> > >

> > > I go tomorrow for a sonogram, for whatever reason. I have

spoken

> > > with some friends who have had the gallbladder disease problems

> > who

> > > say I should have a HIDA scan done.

> > >

> > > I really just wanted to get some feedback from you guys - does

> > this

> > > sound gallbladder related? Like anythign you have gone

through.

> > >

> > > I appreciate any advice and input.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

If money is not an issue and your fears are what dictates what you

do next then there is plenty of doctors ready to take your money for

a ticket on there rollar coaster ride of never ending health care

and side effects were each side effect dictates a name for a new

disease and more treatment to treat the synptoms caused by the side

effects of there last treatment.

As for me I did 3 liver/gallbladder flushes and choose to take

responsibilty for my health.

I did not get any test to determine if I have stones. Since I am a 33

year old american meat eater I know I already had stones I did drink

apple juice two weeks before my first flush as well did a bowel

cleanse to prepare for my first flush. Surprise Surprise stones

came out but according to the medical doctors they were not stones

but olive oil and epsom salt soap my liver made for me. Boy

does olive oil and epsom salt soap help digestion! So I guess I

just washed my liver with soap and everything is working ok now!

Taking pain pills to pass a stone is like removing the light bulb

in your car when the oil light comes on. Desolving the stone

makes it much easier to pass. But I know orthodox medicine has

there own ways of doing things. But is is entirely legal to refuse

treatment!

tina83862 wrote:

> Only problem here is that cheaper is not always safe. If she has a

> stuck stone in her kidney depending on the size it may not pass and

> it should therefore be decreased in size and that can mean trying

> different options.

>

> Most doctors will allow you to pass kidney stones unless they are

> very large---hubby had to take a lot of pain pills until his passed.

> But this is not every case.

>

> It's important to always have all the info before you risk your

> health and life!!!!And money should never been an issue!!!!!!

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi guys -

> > > >

> > > > This may get lengthy, but I need some insight from REAL people.

> > > >

> > > > One month ago exactly I went to the ER with severe and sudden

> > > > abdominal pains (in my right side and upper abdomin, right

> above

> > > my

> > > > belly button). After ruling out appendicitis, they kicked me

> to

> > > the

> > > > curb after finding a 2mm kidney stone sitting in my right

> kidney,

> > > > citing that as the primary problem.

> > > >

> > > > A week after that, still in pain, just not as severe, I went

> to a

> > > > urologist, who told me my pain was coming from what he thought

> may

> > > be

> > > > a ruptured ovarian cyst. Okkkay. Went to my gyno who simply

> > > > said, " If thats what he thinks it was, thats what it was " .

> Great.

> > > >

> > > > Two weeks after that, still in pain, and now the pain started

> > > moving

> > > > to my back, to right behind my right kidney. Go to a second

> > > > urologist for second opinion. He thinks I " pulled a muscle " .

> > > Sent

> > > > me for a second CT scan to see if my kidney stone was moving

> > > around

> > > > causing the pain. Of course it wasnt. Just sitting there,

> nice

> > > and

> > > > stuck.

> > > >

> > > > Now things are getting very bad. The pain radiated to below my

> > > right

> > > > shoulder blade, and for the past 3 days the pain has been so

> bad

> > > in

> > > > the center of my upper back that I can barely stand to sit at

> my

> > > > computer at work. I feel a pressure on my chest. Still having

> > > pains

> > > > on my right side/right back. I have lost 10 pounds (which can

> > > look

> > > > like a lot on someone that was originally only 120 pounds). I

> > > feal

> > > > nauseaus every day, I am crying every day. I feel [very

> badly -

> > > edited by moderator, please try and keep it clean .

> Thanks].

> > > Excuse my language. [no excuse needed if you keep it clean...]

> > > >

> > > > I go tomorrow for a sonogram, for whatever reason. I have

> spoken

> > > > with some friends who have had the gallbladder disease problems

> > > who

> > > > say I should have a HIDA scan done.

> > > >

> > > > I really just wanted to get some feedback from you guys - does

> > > this

> > > > sound gallbladder related? Like anythign you have gone

> through.

> > > >

> > > > I appreciate any advice and input.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories:

> > > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4

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> > > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100

> > > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112

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> > >

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