Re: Transmutation

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Louis Kervran was nominated for a Nobel Prize for his work in transmutation.

Calling his work pseudo-science hardly seems appropriate. I was not

familiar with biological transmutation or Louis Kervran before reading about

them on this list, but a reading on the articles obtained by a Google search

of " Louis Kervran " and transmutation shows experimental results that can't

be explained any other way. I am glad for the introduction to this topic.

Many discussions here do not focus strictly on iodine, but since

transmutation seems to fit in with the discussions of mineral sufficiency, I

do not find this subject to be egregiously off-topic. I find Rick's

contributions to be interesting.

Lynn

>Every chicken I have evern known has eaten oyster shells and other

Calcium rich supplements.

I am not a list moderator, Rick, so I sure can't tell you what to do.

But your continuous outrageous pseudo-science claims sure don't seem

to me to belong on a list like this.

Were I just exploring the Iodine list for the first time and saw your

posts about transmution of elements, I would probably unsubscribe.

I respect most of the posts made here, but your pseudo-science sure

degrades overall list quality, imo.

I have plenty of interests which would not be appropriatew on this

list. I save comments on those interests for lists where they would

be appropriate.

Alobar

On 8/2/06, Rick Wagner <rickwagner@...> wrote:

> Chickens don't eat shells. They eat mica. Mica is silica. Their gizzards

> are designed to break it down into a usable form. The theory is that the

> chicken can them metabolically convert the silica into calcium. This is

one

> example of transmutation.

> Rick

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> Many people are nominated for a Nobel Prize whose work is worthless.

But to me this is really the crux of it. Many theories are accepted

for decades before criticism comes their way at all(think of the

pharmaceutical industry). Many harshly criticized theories do turn out

to be wrong. And many theories eventually considered correct and

brilliant, started out being harshly criticized. So what's a girl to

do?? I try to stay open. Maybe the Nobel prize nominators do to?

[Guest guest]

Alobar, I find your response to Rick outrageous at the very least. Please don't

speak for me.

I am quite intelligent and fully capable of following a trail to its end at

Truth or Nonsense. I don't need a nanny.

Rick your comments are neither off-topic nor unappreciated.

I can't imagine why Alobar feels the need to react with vitriol, but *that* is

what has no place on this forum.

Jane

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All these heated exchanges have me realizing my adrenals are not in

as good a shape as I was hoping! Everytime I read one I feel the

flight or fight response! Yikes!!

Sharon

>

> Alobar, I find your response to Rick outrageous at the very least.

Please don't speak for me.

>

> I am quite intelligent and fully capable of following a trail to

its end at Truth or Nonsense. I don't need a nanny.

>

> Rick your comments are neither off-topic nor unappreciated.

>

> I can't imagine why Alobar feels the need to react with vitriol,

but *that* is what has no place on this forum.

>

> Jane

[Guest guest]

I also agree. What better place to get both sides of information out.

The links have been great. Thank you all for the opportunity and

information.

Kathleen

>

> All these heated exchanges have me realizing my adrenals are not in

> as good a shape as I was hoping! Everytime I read one I feel the

> flight or fight response! Yikes!!

> Sharon

>

> >

[Guest guest]

This list is supposedly based in scientific fact and in personal

experimentation. It is not my understanding that it is a list for

far-out speculation about off-topic items. If I am wrong, I do hope

the list owner will correct me.

Rick treats speculation as though it were proven fact. When I see

such behavior on a list I trust, and the list owner does not step in

to clarify things, I begin to wonder about a lot of other posts which

I do not have the background to fully understand.

I sure know I explore unproven ideas and philosophies. I suspect

many of us do. But I keep those speculations off technical lists

because they are off-topic. And even when I am on a list which

encourages such speculations, I make sure that I am clear in saying I

have speculations on a particular topic, rather than stating the

speculations as though they were a proven fact.

Alobar

On 8/3/06, Jane Rowland <classicalwriter@...> wrote:

> Alobar, I find your response to Rick outrageous at the very least. Please

don't speak for me.

>

> I am quite intelligent and fully capable of following a trail to its end at

Truth or Nonsense. I don't need a nanny.

>

> Rick your comments are neither off-topic nor unappreciated.

>

> I can't imagine why Alobar feels the need to react with vitriol, but *that* is

what has no place on this forum.

>

> Jane

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe you need more magnesium? When your body releases adrenaline, it

simultaneously releases

magnesium. Magnesium helps the muscles, including the heart, contract and relax,

it creates energy

for the body, and it helps buffer some of the jarring effects of adrenaline. My

body use to go out

of control (blood pressure, heart rate, etc) while I waited until the last

minute to bid on

something on Ebay of all things! No adrenaline buffer.

" Lipolysis and increases in adrenaline both cause redistribution of magnesium

amongst body tissues

- principally a shift from blood. "

(The breakdown of fat stored in fat cells is known as lipolysis. )

http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/vla/lab-test/surv/biot-cag-data008.pdf

--- sharflin <sharflin@...> wrote:

> All these heated exchanges have me realizing my adrenals are not in

> as good a shape as I was hoping! Everytime I read one I feel the

> flight or fight response! Yikes!!

> Sharon

>

>

> >

> > Alobar, I find your response to Rick outrageous at the very least.

> Please don't speak for me.

> >

> > I am quite intelligent and fully capable of following a trail to

> its end at Truth or Nonsense. I don't need a nanny.

> >

> > Rick your comments are neither off-topic nor unappreciated.

> >

> > I can't imagine why Alobar feels the need to react with vitriol,

> but *that* is what has no place on this forum.

> >

> > Jane

>

>

>

>

>

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>From: <kennio@...>

>When your body releases adrenaline, it simultaneously releases

>magnesium. Magnesium helps the muscles, including the heart, contract and

>relax,

I believe calcium contracts the muscles and heart, and magnesium relaxes.

Skipper

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Potassium and calcium are muscle contractors.

Rick

Re: Re: Transmutation

>From: <kennio@...>

>When your body releases adrenaline, it simultaneously releases

>magnesium. Magnesium helps the muscles, including the heart, contract and

>relax,

I believe calcium contracts the muscles and heart, and magnesium relaxes.

Skipper

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The cheap household remedy for muscle cramps brought on

by Potassium deficiency = Tomato Juice and Bananas. Works

miracles. BOB

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