Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Blessings,Just my two cent's worth here- as a Naturopathic Doctor.I think you misunderstand the detoxifying system of the body.Sure, the body needs that iodine, but what about chlorella as a binding agent. Once the iodine "finds" the mercury in the cells it needs some kind of "escort" out of the cells.Additional Alpha Lipoic Acid, 600mg a day will help the body escort the mercury SAFELY out of the body. I am a Board Certified Naturopathic Doctor who spent her life with amalgam fillings. The resultant diagnosis of rheumatoid arthritis and non-malignant tumor on the thyroid had me searching long and hard to find what had caused my disease. Introspection into lifestyle, diet, etc found no answers. Finally I found something that works.Pay CLOSE ATTENTION. My rheumatoid arthritis and hypothyroid is in remission. No resultant scarred or deformed bones or psychological symptoms. Here's how I did it. Took about 4 months:A. First the gut. Makes sense if you are going to get a potent dose of anything, since gut bacteria and enzymes need to be at optimal. I took digestive enzymes and followed the candida protocol of Gaia Herbs for one month.B. I was feeling better already. Topically I was applying Celadrin Skin Renewal to get some hyaluronic acid into the joints to repair the damage. It also works on pain management. I also used Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM combo. Once the joints have been subjected to inflammation, repair cannot take place properly, in most cases, so I had to supplement until my body normalized.C. Thyroiditis-also evident. Non-malignant tumor on the left side. I used Dr. Chi's Myomin, known for its ability to reduce thyroid tumors. I also ate kelp for internal thyroid hormone management. This is when I began to suspect that mercury was the real culprit in the whole melodrama. I began using chlorella as suggested at www.mercola.com for heavy metal chelation.D. After about 3 months, the inflammation was gone, my bones were on the mend and I began the maintenance stage of my therapy.E. I made an organic iodine emu oil rub which I use nightly. I massage it into my legs and abdomen. You would be amazed to learn that the iodine is also lessening my cellulite as the iodine apparently has been coaxing the toxins out of the fat cells. I wake up in the morning with a giant urge to urinate long and strong, which never happened before, even with the Candida cleanse.Here's my recipe:240 ml (8 oz.) emu oil, the purest you can find. Great anti-inflammatory.60 ml (2 oz.) organic iodine. I use Iosol, but there are many websites who have it cheaper.A few drops of each of the following essential oils: helichrysum, lemon, sage, pink grapefruit, lavender, frankincense, cypress, tea tree and fennel. Shake before applying. This much emu mixture should last quite a while.F. I feel that my Beck TriPulsar has also assisted my healing process. This therapy may seem weird to some, but I encourage you to look at the data on microcurrent therapy. www.altered-states.net and www.heal-me.com.au . Ken Uzzell gives the frequencies needed to restore thyroid health. The software is downloadable and is used on a regular computer. I want to add that this software was in part responsible for reducing a tumor on the nipple of my chihuahua.That's it. My hope is that you find the answers to your disease. There is nothing like coming out from under the dark cloud of an "incurable" disease, feeling well and alive.ladyhawkblue2 <chantalh@...> wrote: Just thought I'd post my experience.I had been on 50 mcg Iodoral forabout 2 months and having increased fatigue and depression.Brain fogwas also coming back.Off iodine for a week and feel better than I have in a longtime.Temperature is down even though I increased thyroid meds.I think the iodine was mobilizing too much mercury and I as usual wasnot eliminating it.I think that during these times of detox mercuryends up on more thyroid receptors so I end up increasing thyroid medseverytime.Chantal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Deborah:Could you please clarify a couple of things in your post. First, did you have your mercury amalgams removed before you started all the healing?Second - once you were in the second phase of your healing, could you list exactly what you were taking each day? Lastly, why is emu oil so great -and is this an easy thing to find commercially?Thanks for posting your experience.April-- April StreeterGothenburg SWEDEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Thank you for your input but many mercury toxic people do not tolerate even the smallest amounts of chlorella,MSM Alpha lipoic acid NAC etc.Sulphur compounds in particular are a problem.I belong to a metals list and most on the list have this problem.Chlorella was a horrible experience for me.I literally felt like I was not in my body.I had such brain fog that couldn't drive my car for fear I would not be able to react if necessary let alone concentrate on driving safely.I also experienced ganglion cysts while on chlorella. that went away after I stopped. MSM made me extremely ill and exacerbated all my symptoms.I seem to be able to mobilize mercury easily but eliminating it is another story.I have some liver damage from DMSA 7 yrs ago and still have elevated liver enzymes.DMSA is " supposed " to be super binding. .I don't think the so called binding agents are as good as reported or people would not get sick from using them.They may bind some of the metals but the ones that become unbound make people sick. I never had thyroid antibodies or elevated liver enzymes till after taking DMSA I've tried many many things and so far not much success.I am going to try NCD soon as a lot of people are having success with little side effects. Were the essential oils you used for inflammation? I do pretty well as long as I don't take many supplements or try any form of detox.Thyroid meds have taken care of most of the symptoms.I am going to check out Ken's website.Thank you for the info. > Blessings, > Just my two cent's worth here- as a Naturopathic Doctor. > I think you misunderstand the detoxifying system of the body. > Sure, the body needs that iodine, but what about chlorella as a binding agent. Once the iodine " finds " the mercury in the cells it needs some kind of " escort " out of the cells. > Additional Alpha Lipoic Acid, 600mg a day will help the body escort the mercury SAFELY out of the body. > > I am a Board Certified Naturopathic Doctor who spent her life with amalgam fillings. The resultant diagnosis of rheumatoid arthritis and non-malignant tumor on the thyroid had me searching long and hard to find what had caused my disease. Introspection into lifestyle, diet, etc found no answers. Finally I found something that works. > > Pay CLOSE ATTENTION. My rheumatoid arthritis and hypothyroid is in remission. No resultant scarred or deformed bones or psychological symptoms. Here's how I did it. Took about 4 months: > A. First the gut. Makes sense if you are going to get a potent dose of anything, since gut bacteria and enzymes need to be at optimal. I took digestive enzymes and followed the candida protocol of Gaia Herbs for one month. > B. I was feeling better already. Topically I was applying Celadrin Skin Renewal to get some hyaluronic acid into the joints to repair the damage. It also works on pain management. I also used Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM combo. Once the joints have been subjected to inflammation, repair cannot take place properly, in most cases, so I had to supplement until my body normalized. > C. Thyroiditis-also evident. Non-malignant tumor on the left side. I used Dr. Chi's Myomin, known for its ability to reduce thyroid tumors. I also ate kelp for internal thyroid hormone management. This is when I began to suspect that mercury was the real culprit in the whole melodrama. I began using chlorella as suggested at www.mercola.com for heavy metal chelation. > D. After about 3 months, the inflammation was gone, my bones were on the mend and I began the maintenance stage of my therapy. > E. I made an organic iodine emu oil rub which I use nightly. I massage it into my legs and abdomen. You would be amazed to learn that the iodine is also lessening my cellulite as the iodine apparently has been coaxing the toxins out of the fat cells. I wake up in the morning with a giant urge to urinate long and strong, which never happened before, even with the Candida cleanse.Here's my recipe: > 240 ml (8 oz.) emu oil, the purest you can find. Great anti-inflammatory. > 60 ml (2 oz.) organic iodine. I use Iosol, but there are many websites who have it cheaper. > A few drops of each of the following essential oils: helichrysum, lemon, sage, pink grapefruit, lavender, frankincense, cypress, tea tree and fennel. Shake before applying. This much emu mixture should last quite a while. > F. I feel that my Beck TriPulsar has also assisted my healing process. This therapy may seem weird to some, but I encourage you to look at the data on microcurrent therapy. www.altered-states.net and www.heal-me.com.au . Ken Uzzell gives the frequencies needed to restore thyroid health. The software is downloadable and is used on a regular computer. I want to add that this software was in part responsible for reducing a tumor on the nipple of my chihuahua. > > That's it. My hope is that you find the answers to your disease. There is nothing like coming out from under the dark cloud of an " incurable " disease, feeling well and alive. > > ladyhawkblue2 <chantalh@...> wrote: Just thought I'd post my experience.I had been on 50 mcg Iodoral for > about 2 months and having increased fatigue and depression.Brain fog > was also coming back. > Off iodine for a week and feel better than I have in a long > time.Temperature is down even though I increased thyroid meds. > I think the iodine was mobilizing too much mercury and I as usual was > not eliminating it.I think that during these times of detox mercury > ends up on more thyroid receptors so I end up increasing thyroid meds > everytime. > Chantal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 You were too toxic to start the chlorella. ALA, MSM, etc WITHOUT first doing a basic body detox first. You expected an already overburdened body to assimilate nutrients capable of making you healthy without first doing the basic detox.First things first. Do a month of 4 Herb Tea, which will stabilize the alkaline/acid balance, or try the Gaia Herbs Candida cleanse program.Then perhaps you can get through the most serious detox program of your life...Dr. Deborahladyhawkblue2 <chantalh@...> wrote: Thank you for your input but many mercury toxic people do not tolerate even the smallest amounts of chlorella,MSM Alpha lipoic acid NACetc.Sulphur compounds in particular are a problem.I belong to a metalslist and most on the list have this problem.Chlorella was a horribleexperience for me.I literally felt like I was not in my body.I hadsuch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 fatigue, depression, brain fog were symptoms of needing adrenal meds for me. Gracia Just thought I'd post my experience.I had been on 50 mcg Iodoral forabout 2 months and having increased fatigue and depression.Brain fogwas also coming back.Off iodine for a week and feel better than I have in a longtime.Temperature is down even though I increased thyroid meds.I think the iodine was mobilizing too much mercury and I as usual wasnot eliminating it.I think that during these times of detox mercuryends up on more thyroid receptors so I end up increasing thyroid medseverytime.Chantal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I'm the wierd ones. I had my amalgasm out (safe dentist) which did nothing for me. waited over a month and tried the ALA for a time. Again NOTHING good or bad. Also tried chlorella and some other things. Didn't even get worse. And I met two of the counting rules for mercury via Andy Cutlers hair test (after removal). None of this did anything for my life long problems. Now I'm treating candida (threelac) and doing some other things. The fact that I actually got worse was such a GOOD feeling. LOL Maybe I'm finally on the right track. 6 grains of Armour did nothing (along with expensive supplements and hormones) except weight loss. I'm currently on 1 grain thyroid S daily, 50 mg of Iodoral and some other things. Time will tell. Carol B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 When it comes to metal toxicity everyone is so different. I also was on 6 gr Armour and not feeling much better for it.I went from 2gr to 6 gr and it helped some but what really helped was getting on straight T3/Cytomel.My body evidently was not converting T4 to T3 so I need it straight.I slowly cut back on Armour mcg for mcg of T3 and replaced it with Cytomel and slowly added another 25 mcg and then I " finally " started to feel somewhat normal even with mercury problems.Maybe T3 would help you also. If I went by lab tests I'd be bed ridden.I used body temp and symptoms as the measurement for how much thyroid I needed. > > I'm the wierd ones. I had my amalgasm out (safe dentist) which did > nothing for me. waited over a month and tried the ALA for a time. Again > NOTHING good or bad. Also tried chlorella and some other things. Didn't > even get worse. And I met two of the counting rules for mercury via > Andy Cutlers hair test (after removal). None of this did anything for > my life long problems. Now I'm treating candida (threelac) and doing > some other things. The fact that I actually got worse was such a GOOD > feeling. LOL Maybe I'm finally on the right track. 6 grains of Armour > did nothing (along with expensive supplements and hormones) except > weight loss. I'm currently on 1 grain thyroid S daily, 50 mg of Iodoral > and some other things. Time will tell. Carol B > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 When on Armour what was your T3 labs? --- ladyhawkblue2 <chantalh@...> wrote: > When it comes to metal toxicity everyone is so > different. > I also was on 6 gr Armour and not feeling much > better for it.I went > from 2gr to 6 gr and it helped some but what really > helped was getting > on straight T3/Cytomel.My body evidently was not > converting T4 to T3 > so I need it straight.I slowly cut back on Armour > mcg for mcg of T3 > and replaced it with Cytomel and slowly added > another 25 mcg and then > I " finally " started to feel somewhat normal even > with mercury > problems.Maybe T3 would help you also. > If I went by lab tests I'd be bed ridden.I used body > temp and symptoms > as the measurement for how much thyroid I needed. > > > > > > > I'm the wierd ones. I had my amalgasm out (safe > dentist) which did > > nothing for me. waited over a month and tried the > ALA for a time. Again > > NOTHING good or bad. Also tried chlorella and some > other things. Didn't > > even get worse. And I met two of the counting > rules for mercury via > > Andy Cutlers hair test (after removal). None of > this did anything for > > my life long problems. Now I'm treating candida > (threelac) and doing > > some other things. The fact that I actually got > worse was such a GOOD > > feeling. LOL Maybe I'm finally on the right track. > 6 grains of Armour > > did nothing (along with expensive supplements and > hormones) except > > weight loss. I'm currently on 1 grain thyroid S > daily, 50 mg of Iodoral > > and some other things. Time will tell. Carol B > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 I had NO relief of symptoms whatsoever. I eventually went off the Armour completely after going on a gluten free diet and losing to much weight (scared myself and my friends) even though testing w/o meds shows the need. Later I went back to check out thyroid hormone resistance and went back on Thyroid S. At one point (probably 5 grains) I tested through health check and my TSH was .001 and my frees were above range. That TSH is lower than the Top Doc I saw pushes it in order for his patients to feel well. I'm currently on 1 grain daily. As to Iodine making hypo worse, I've read that the need for iodine could explain WHY the Armour didn't work for me. That's one of the reasons I'm trying it. I've been sick to long and have nothing to lose but my ill health. :-) Carol B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 I went back over about 10 yrs of labs and T3 was not always tested.Sometimes T3 uptake was tested.Most of the older labs showed T3 & T4 low normal.Then I get into mid range .I have one test with a free T3 of 10 on a range of 2.4 to 4.5 and had NO hyper symptoms at all.This was probably on 4-6 grains of Armour.I don't think labs are all that indicative of what is really going on.It shows what is in your blood at the time of blood draw .It does not show what is getting into the cells or my 10 reading would probably have put me into heart attack mode or worse.There was a lot of T3 in my blood but not in my cells as I was still feeling hypo.T3 uptake might be a little better because I believe that shows what is being taken in by the cells.Mine is still always on the lower end of normal even with high doses of T3.My last blood test with being on T3 for about 2 yrs showed a T3 uptake of 31 on a scale of 24 to 39.I would probably feel better if I could get that reading up closer to 39 I have been told that mercury toxic people feel best with a T3 in the higher end of normal. > > > > > > I'm the wierd ones. I had my amalgasm out (safe > > dentist) which did > > > nothing for me. waited over a month and tried the > > ALA for a time. Again > > > NOTHING good or bad. Also tried chlorella and some > > other things. Didn't > > > even get worse. And I met two of the counting > > rules for mercury via > > > Andy Cutlers hair test (after removal). None of > > this did anything for > > > my life long problems. Now I'm treating candida > > (threelac) and doing > > > some other things. The fact that I actually got > > worse was such a GOOD > > > feeling. LOL Maybe I'm finally on the right track. > > 6 grains of Armour > > > did nothing (along with expensive supplements and > > hormones) except > > > weight loss. I'm currently on 1 grain thyroid S > > daily, 50 mg of Iodoral > > > and some other things. Time will tell. Carol B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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