Re: Fillings emit mercury vapor 24-hours a day.

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Suzanne - I live the ramifications of this every day. I was dx'd with thyroid cancer almost 7 years ago. Recently I found an article (posted on the iodine4health.com website) that reviewed a study of benign vs cancerous thyroid nodules. Guess what they found in the nodules? The cancerous one had mercury and 15 times less iodine than the benign one. I have lost 6 years of my life to this illness. I recently removed all my amalgam fillings (12) and a root canal tooth (which is another HUGE issue) and it has been amazing what changes have occurred. Between Armour, Iodoral and the removal of my mercury fillings I have my life back again. My Endo kept trying to kill me with RAI - that was not the issue. Toxicity was.

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Fillings emit mercury vapor 24-hours a day.

I'm sorry to keep harping on this subject but I am pissed that themedical and dental professions could be so stupid to not know thedangers of mercury.Suzannehttp://tuberose.com/Mercury.html

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>From: " Suzanne " <gddsssuze@...>

>I'm sorry to keep harping on this subject but I am pissed that the

>medical and dental professions could be so stupid to not know the

>dangers of mercury.

>Suzanne

You're making a mistake if you think they're stupid.

We just don't know all the reasons things are done. I read a letter from

the 1800s explaining why mercury shouldn't be used in dentistry. They knew

about the " Mad Hatters " by then, and the letter sounded a lot like the

complaints of today.

They covered up Vioxx information, so they knew it was unsafe and released

it anyway.

They know fluoride is a pesticide, and not an essential element for humans.

Our " leaders " aren't stupid. They just allow certain things. That doesn't

mean they believe them safe.

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What makes you think they don't know? They know. SAMMIESuzanne <gddsssuze@...> wrote: I'm sorry to keep harping on this subject but I am pissed that themedical and dental professions could be so stupid to not know thedangers of mercury.Suzannehttp://tuberose.com/Mercury.htmlMercury is associated with 258 different symptoms, and copper, alsofound in amalgam, with over

100. The severe toxicity of methylmercuryis attributed to its ability to pierce any cell membrane in the bodyand cross all barriers, even the placental and blood-brain barriers.After crossing these barriers, methylmercury is converted back intothe highly destructive ionic form and destroys all cell components inits path. The transportation mechanism into cells is its primarydamaging component. Its conversion to ionic form then deposits the"killer" form of mercury in areas it could never penetrate in theionic form. By this mechanism, methylmercury is credited withinitiating degeneration and atrophy of the sensory cerebral cortex,paresthesia, (numbness and tingling), autism, behavioral and emotionalaberations, as well as hearing and visual impairment.Pendergrass and Haley in a 1997 performed a study published in thejournal Neurotoxicology. In their study, they showed concentrations ofmercury vapor, known to be

released by dental amalgams in people,increased mercury concentrations in rat brains from 11- to 47-foldhigher than controls. At this level, the mercury produced theidentical lesions seen in Alzheimer's disease (neurofibrillarytangles) by interfering with normal tubulin maintenance.A recent study completed in 2003, states patients with certainautoimmune diseases such as lupus, multiple sclerosis, autoimmunethyroiditis and allergic disease "often show increased lymphocytestimulation by low doses of inorganic mercury in vitro." In theirstudy, they removed amalgams from a group of 35 patients withautoimmune diseases and replaced them with composites. When examinedsix months later, 71 percent had shown an improvement in health, withthe greatest improvement in those with multiple sclerosis. Theirconclusion: "Mercury-containing amalgam may be an important riskfactor for patients with autoimmune

diseases."

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--- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

> >From: " Suzanne " <gddsssuze@...>

>

> >I'm sorry to keep harping on this subject but I am pissed that the

> >medical and dental professions could be so stupid to not know the

> >dangers of mercury.

> >Suzanne

>

> You're making a mistake if you think they're stupid.

>

> We just don't know all the reasons things are done. I read a letter from

> the 1800s explaining why mercury shouldn't be used in dentistry. They knew

> about the " Mad Hatters " by then, and the letter sounded a lot like the

> complaints of today.

>

> They covered up Vioxx information, so they knew it was unsafe and released

> it anyway.

>

> They know fluoride is a pesticide, and not an essential element for humans.

>

> Our " leaders " aren't stupid. They just allow certain things. That doesn't

> mean they believe them safe.

>

>

> Skipper

>

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>From: <kennio@...>

I frequently don't go to links, unless there's some kind of summary, I

generally think it a time waster otherwise.

Anyway, I did go to this one, and it shows the coating in the microwave

popcorn bags are not too healthy. (As if anyone who smelled microwave

popcorn thought it was healthy.)

>http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2005-11-16-dupont-usat_x.htm

" A former engineer for the DuPont company has accused his ex-employer of

concealing test results almost two decades ago that showed toxic chemicals

leaching out of a paper coating used to give grease resistance to microwave

popcorn bags, fast food and candy wrappers, and pizza box liners. "

Don't forget, Dupont has also been fined for covering up info about Teflon.

It's not safe either. Haven't seen much on that from the establishment

media. I did see on a show about pet birds, that you better not keep the

birds near the kitchen, and shouldn't even have non stick cookware in your

house, because the fumes can be hazardous to your pet. The show mentioned

they were still looking into whether or not it was dangerous for humans.

They lie to us about mercury, fluoride, genetically modified foods,

pesticides, drug safety, power lines and many other things. They're not

stupid, they just lie.

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If anyone else complains about my rare summary-less links I will stop. I

generally don't post

time wasting links.

--- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

> >From: <kennio@...>

>

> I frequently don't go to links, unless there's some kind of summary, I

> generally think it a time waster otherwise.

>

> Anyway, I did go to this one, and it shows the coating in the microwave

> popcorn bags are not too healthy. (As if anyone who smelled microwave

> popcorn thought it was healthy.)

>

>

>http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2005-11-16-dupont-usat_x.htm

> " A former engineer for the DuPont company has accused his ex-employer of

> concealing test results almost two decades ago that showed toxic chemicals

> leaching out of a paper coating used to give grease resistance to microwave

> popcorn bags, fast food and candy wrappers, and pizza box liners. "

>

> Don't forget, Dupont has also been fined for covering up info about Teflon.

> It's not safe either. Haven't seen much on that from the establishment

> media. I did see on a show about pet birds, that you better not keep the

> birds near the kitchen, and shouldn't even have non stick cookware in your

> house, because the fumes can be hazardous to your pet. The show mentioned

> they were still looking into whether or not it was dangerous for humans.

>

> They lie to us about mercury, fluoride, genetically modified foods,

> pesticides, drug safety, power lines and many other things. They're not

> stupid, they just lie.

>

> Skipper

>

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>From: <kennio@...>

>If anyone else complains about my rare summary-less links I will stop. I

>generally don't post

>time wasting links.

Sorry, I've been seeing a lot of those lately. I'm not saying they waste

time if we go to them, but especailly the ones with no text of any kind, I

debate why I should bother. Not real difficult to copy and past a short

part of it. I did read yours. Many I don't because I think people ought to

tell us why to visit them. At least a quick quote.

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They've known all along.  (see excerpt below, for the rest of the story see thedoctorwithin.com chapter on "New Agendas in American Dentistry".Looking into the history of amalgams is most illuminating. In the 1830s there were two groups of dentists in America: those favoring mercury amalgams and those opposed to it. Those not in favor of amalgam ? the American Society of Dental Surgeons - disliked amalgam's tendency to fracture teeth as it expanded in fillings. Nor were they happy with the idea of mercury's side effects, like insanity (Mad Hatter's Disease) and loss of motor function from nerve damage. (Bernard)So the Society pledged never to use amalgam for fillings. (Lorscheider) The Society actually referred to those dentists who used mercury as 'quacks' ? short for quackenslaver ? the German word for mercury. And that is the origin of this derogatory medical term. (Hansen, p. 40) The name of that other group, the one using mercury? The American Dental Association.From the 1830s till the 1850s, the controversy continued. Membership in the Society slowly declined as amalgam became more popular, since it was cheaper and easier to use than other filling materials. Mercury amalgam fillings could be offered at an affordable price for the largest number of people.By 1859, the Society of American Dental Surgeons had faded out, edged out by the champion of mercury fillings: the American Dental Association. It is worth noting that the ADA's original unifying principle was that amalgam was safe and effective ? the idea is in the ADA's collective DNA. When it was discovered that adding tin solved the expansion problem, that was all she wrote. Since that time, the composition of the amalgam alloy has remained almost exactly the same.No opposition. This must be why in its 125-year existence, the ADA has never funded one single human safety study of mercury amalgams. They never even tried to find out! (Ziff, p 24 ) But the ADA's members are pledged never to mention anything about mercury toxicity to patients. And in an ironic reversal, by the 1980s the ADA had worked up the temerity to refer to any dentist who would suggest amalgam removal as a "quack." (Hansen, p 42)On Sep 15, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Suzanne wrote:I'm sorry to keep harping on this subject but I am pissed that themedical and dental professions could be so stupid to not know thedangers of mercury.Suzannehttp. 

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Yeah its a good reason not to breath through your mouth or talk much.

keep your mouth shut

and tightly sealed so you dont inhale so much of the vapor of the

mercury fillings.

Seems to have worked for me or have I gone mad already ;-)

good thing for keyboards.

V

Linn wrote:

>

> They've known all along. (see excerpt below, for the rest of the

> story see thedoctorwithin.com chapter on " New Agendas in American

> Dentistry " .

>

>

> Looking into the history of amalgams is most illuminating. In the

> 1830s there were two groups of dentists in America: those favoring

> mercury amalgams and those opposed to it. Those not in favor of

> amalgam ? the American Society of Dental Surgeons - disliked amalgam's

> tendency to fracture teeth as it expanded in fillings. Nor were they

> happy with the idea of mercury's side effects, like insanity (Mad

> Hatter's Disease) and loss of motor function from nerve damage. (Bernard)

>

>

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The word " quack " derives from " quacksalver, " an archaic word originally of Dutch

origin (spelled

kwakzalver in contemporary Dutch), meaning " boaster who applies a salve. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quackery

Here is a little discussion on this story and it's validity.... I don't know who

is correct with

the facts.

http://www.mailarchive.ca/lists/misc.health.alternative/2004-11/2622.html

--- Linn <linnmiller@...> wrote:

> They've known all along. (see excerpt below, for the rest of the

> story see thedoctorwithin.com chapter on " New Agendas in American

> Dentistry " .

>

> Looking into the history of amalgams is most illuminating. In the

> 1830s there were two groups of dentists in America: those favoring

> mercury amalgams and those opposed to it. Those not in favor of

> amalgam ? the American Society of Dental Surgeons - disliked

> amalgam's tendency to fracture teeth as it expanded in fillings. Nor

> were they happy with the idea of mercury's side effects, like

> insanity (Mad Hatter's Disease) and loss of motor function from nerve

> damage. (Bernard)

>

> So the Society pledged never to use amalgam for fillings.

> (Lorscheider) The Society actually referred to those dentists who

> used mercury as 'quacks' ? short for quackenslaver ? the German word

> for mercury. And that is the origin of this derogatory medical term.

> (Hansen, p. 40) The name of that other group, the one using mercury?

> The American Dental Association.

>

> From the 1830s till the 1850s, the controversy continued. Membership

> in the Society slowly declined as amalgam became more popular, since

> it was cheaper and easier to use than other filling materials.

> Mercury amalgam fillings could be offered at an affordable price for

> the largest number of people.

>

> By 1859, the Society of American Dental Surgeons had faded out, edged

> out by the champion of mercury fillings: the American Dental

> Association. It is worth noting that the ADA's original unifying

> principle was that amalgam was safe and effective ? the idea is in

> the ADA's collective DNA. When it was discovered that adding tin

> solved the expansion problem, that was all she wrote. Since that

> time, the composition of the amalgam alloy has remained almost

> exactly the same.

>

> No opposition. This must be why in its 125-year existence, the ADA

> has never funded one single human safety study of mercury amalgams.

> They never even tried to find out! (Ziff, p 24 ) But the ADA's

> members are pledged never to mention anything about mercury toxicity

> to patients. And in an ironic reversal, by the 1980s the ADA had

> worked up the temerity to refer to any dentist who would suggest

> amalgam removal as a " quack. " (Hansen, p 42)

>

>

>

> On Sep 15, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Suzanne wrote:

>

> > I'm sorry to keep harping on this subject but I am pissed that the

> > medical and dental professions could be so stupid to not know the

> > dangers of mercury.

> > Suzanne

> >

> > http

> >> .

> >

> >

>

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I read another article about this recently

and how a lot of people in the plants that make the bags for microwave popcorn

have died due to the chemicals in the thing on the bottom that heats up. Don’t

know where I read it but I have a friend who had gastric bypass surgery and she

lives on microwave popcorn so that is why it caught my eye. Of course that is

above and beyond what microwaving does to your food anyway.

Allyn

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7:46 PM

iodine

Subject: RE: Fillings

emit mercury vapor 24-hours a day.

If anyone

else complains about my rare summary-less links I will stop. I generally don't

post

time wasting links.

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wrote:

> >From: <kennio >

>

> I frequently don't go to links, unless there's some kind of summary, I

> generally think it a time waster otherwise.

>

> Anyway, I did go to this one, and it shows the coating in the microwave

> popcorn bags are not too healthy. (As if anyone who smelled microwave

> popcorn thought it was healthy.)

>

> >http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2005-11-16-dupont-usat_x.htm

> " A former engineer for the DuPont company has accused his ex-employer

of

> concealing test results almost two decades ago that showed toxic chemicals

> leaching out of a paper coating used to give grease resistance to

microwave

> popcorn bags, fast food and candy wrappers, and pizza box liners. "

>

> Don't forget, Dupont has also been fined for covering up info about

Teflon.

> It's not safe either. Haven't seen much on that from the establishment

> media. I did see on a show about pet birds, that you better not keep the

> birds near the kitchen, and shouldn't even have non stick cookware in your

> house, because the fumes can be hazardous to your pet. The show mentioned

> they were still looking into whether or not it was dangerous for humans.

>

> They lie to us about mercury, fluoride, genetically modified foods,

> pesticides, drug safety, power lines and many other things. They're not

> stupid, they just lie.

>

> Skipper

>

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I have to give anything that references Barrett, not much credibility.  I'd also give Dr. O'Shea's reference list to his material much more credit than the wikipedia article.  LinnOn Sep 16, 2006, at 2:55 AM, wrote:The word "quack" derives from "quacksalver," an archaic word originally of Dutch origin (spelledkwakzalver in contemporary Dutch), meaning "boaster who applies a salve."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuackeryHere is a little discussion on this story and it's validity.... I don't know who is correct withthe facts.http://www.mailarchive.ca/lists/misc.health.alternative/2004-11/2622.html. 

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I would agree BUT there are facts in the story that appear to be wrong.

http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/1840/august_18_1840_51085.html

--- Linn <linnmiller@...> wrote:

> I have to give anything that references Barrett, not much

> credibility. I'd also give Dr. O'Shea's reference list to his

> material much more credit than the wikipedia article.

>

> Linn

>

> On Sep 16, 2006, at 2:55 AM, wrote:

>

> > The word " quack " derives from " quacksalver, " an archaic word

> > originally of Dutch origin (spelled

> > kwakzalver in contemporary Dutch), meaning " boaster who applies a

> > salve. "

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quackery

> >

> > Here is a little discussion on this story and it's validity.... I

> > don't know who is correct with

> > the facts.

> >

> > http://www.mailarchive.ca/lists/misc.health.alternative/

> > 2004-11/2622.html

> >

> > .

> >

> >

>

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,Did find the following also, and another reference dating the founding in 1939, so not sure whose date is correct:I c) Historical Overview of Mercury Use in Dentistry    Lorscheider, F.L., Vimy, M.J., and Summers, A.O. "Mercury Exposure from Silver Tooth Fillings: Emerging Evidence Questions a Traditional Dental Paradigm." FASEB Journal (April 1995).As early as the 7th century, the Chinese used a "silver paste" containing mercury (Hg) to fill decayed teeth. Throughout the Middle Ages, alchemists in China and Europe observed that this mysterious silvery liquid, extracted from cinnabar ore, was volatile and would quickly disappear as vapor when mildly heated. Alchemists were fascinated that at room temperature Hg appeared to "dissolve" powders of other metals such as silver, tin, and copper. By the early 1800's, the use of a Hg/silver paste as a tooth filling material was being popularized in England and France and it was eventually introduced into North America in the 1830s. Some early dental practitioners expressed concerns that the Hg/silver mixture (amalgam) expanded after setting, frequently fracturing the tooth or protruding above the cavity preparation, and thereby prevented proper jaw closure. Other dentists were concerned about mercurial poisoning, because it was already widely recognized that Hg exposure resulted in many overt side effects, including dementia and loss of motor coordination. By 1845, as a reflection of these concerns, the American Society of Dental Surgeons and several affiliated regional dental societies adopted a resolution that its members sign a pledge not to use amalgam. Consequently, during the next decade some members of the society were suspended for the malpractice of using amalgam. But the advocates of amalgam eventually prevailed and membership in the American Society of Dental Surgeons declined, forcing it to disband in 1856. In its place arose the American Dental Association, founded in 1859, based on the advocacy of amalgam as a safe and desirable tooth filling material. Shortly thereafter, tin was added to the Hg/silver paste to counteract the expansion properties of the previous amalgam formula.There were compelling economic reasons for promoting dental amalgam as a replacement for the other common filling materials of the day such as cement, lead, gold, and tinfoil. Amalgam's introduction meant that dental care would now be within the financial means of a much wider sector of the population, and because amalgam was simple and easy to use, dentists could readily be trained to treat the anticipated large number of new patients. By 1895, the dental amalgam mixture of metals had been modified further to control for expansion and contraction, and the basic formula has remained essentially unchanged since then. Scientific concerns about amalgam safety initially surfaced in Germany during the 1920's, but eventually subsided without a clear resolution. At the present time, based on 1992 dental manufacturer specifications, amalgam (at mixing) typically contains approximately 50% metallic Hg, 35% silver, 9% tin, 6% copper, and a trace of zinc. Estimates of annual Hg usage by U.S. dentists range from approximately 100,000 kg in the 1970's to 70,000 kg today. Hg fillings continue to remain the material preferred by 92% of U.S. dentists for restoring posterior teeth. More than 100 million Hg fillings are placed each year in the U.S. Presently, organized dentistry has countered the controversy surrounding the use of Hg fillings by claiming that Hg reacts with the other amalgam metals to form a "biologically inactive substance" and by observing that dentists have not reported any adverse side effects in patients. Long-term use and popularity also continue to be offered as evidence of amalgam safety.On Sep 16, 2006, at 1:49 PM, wrote:I would agree BUT there are facts in the story that appear to be wrong. http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/1840/august_18_1840_51085.html--- Linn <linnmillerentouchonline (DOT) net> wrote:> I have to give anything that references Barrett, not much > credibility. I'd also give Dr. O'Shea's reference list to his > material much more credit than the wikipedia article.> > Linn>