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>> Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip?<<

Probably not. A single episode of vomiting -- even a violent one --

isn't likely to dislodge a band. It takes an extended period of abuse.

Regular overstuffing the stoma and regular barfing.

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oh cindy. i am so sorry to hear of your pain. i hate it so much that

that is what keeps me from having stuff.

i am not well versed in this, but i would hope that one mishap

wouldnt make the band slip.

At 08:29 PM 11/2/2007, you wrote:

>I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able to eat

>pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well enough.

>

>Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm off to

>stop the chest pain.

>

>I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and kinda

>forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

>worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I brought up

>some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little slime

>balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

>

>Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a tiny

>stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold without

>the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

>breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

>

>No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just need to

>know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

>

> : (

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Diane and Sharon. I was really worried. You can bet I won't

eat THAT again! I just ate some cheerios soaked in skim milk and a

popsicle and my stomach feels o.k. I am really hungry, but I'm not

going to push my luck.

Thanks again - cindy

> >I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able to

eat

> >pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

enough.

> >

> >Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm off

to

> >stop the chest pain.

> >

> >I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and kinda

> >forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> >worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I brought

up

> >some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

slime

> >balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> >

> >Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a tiny

> >stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold without

> >the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> >breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> >

> >No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just need

to

> >know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> >

> > : (

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi ,

Been there, done that, and am still doing that. Apparently its not a good thing

but I found it is the only way to fix the pain. Being banded 10 weeks now and

having only just reached a good level of restriction, its all such a learning

curve. My doc gave me a handbook on gastric banding prior to surgery which I

just looked at again and in there, there is a section on eating after surgery.

It says that you can expect to vomit 2 to 3 times per week for a few weeks

because you are retraining yourself to eat differently and chew differently. It

can't be done overnight unless your superwoman. Anyway what I'm rambling on

about is that for it to be in a medical handbook produced in Australia, it must

be a fairly common occurence. I definitely would not recommend it but hey - it

happens and I believe forums are for sharing experiences, whether they are right

or wrong. So please!!! No-one

be-head me for my story. Sometimes I'm too scared to post in case I say the

wrong thing.

> cindywebb1667 <cindywebb1667@...> wrote:

>

> I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able to eat

> pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well enough.

>

> Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm off to

> stop the chest pain.

>

> I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and kinda

> forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I brought up

> some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little slime

> balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

>

> Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a tiny

> stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold without

> the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

>

> No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just need to

> know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

>

> : (

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, ANY barf or pb can cause a slip. At the very least, they are

likely loosening the stutures to make futurte slips even more

possible.

I just don't undertsnad why you really continue to test and push and

ignore the band rules. Pasta is not a good band food . period. If

you're serious about Band safety, losing weight, and reclaiming your

helth, you'll stop all of this poor eating. It's a conscious choice

you're making to eat poor foods and risk your band. You can't eat

pasta unless you choose to buy it and prepare it.

I hope you'll consider seeing a therapist to start to work on these

issues - why you're choosing to hurt yourself and why you're not

following the rules that will help your Band work and help you lose

so you can live longer and healthier.

Something is going on here, and you're often putting yourself in

danger. Why?

A bit of " tough love " becuase you're worth giving yourself better

care!

Sandy R

>

> I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able to

eat

> pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

enough.

>

> Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm off

to

> stop the chest pain.

>

> I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and kinda

> forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I brought

up

> some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

slime

> balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

>

> Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a tiny

> stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold without

> the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

>

> No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just need

to

> know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

>

> : (

>

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If it was as easy as you make it sound I wouldn't have needed the

band in the first place.

> >

> > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able to

> eat

> > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

> enough.

> >

> > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm off

> to

> > stop the chest pain.

> >

> > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

kinda

> > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

brought

> up

> > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

> slime

> > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> >

> > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a tiny

> > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

without

> > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> >

> > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

need

> to

> > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> >

> > : (

> >

>

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>> If it was as easy as you make it sound I wouldn't have needed the

band in the first place.<<

If it were as difficult as you seem to think it is, how do so many other

people manage to make it work and be happy about it?

The band is no substitute for judgment. If you expect the band to force

you to lose weight, you will continue to be disappointed. The band helps

you by reducing hunger but only if you eat appropriately.

You are the only one who decides what to put in your mouth. Just like

everyone else.

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Boy all you guys are really sympathetic and supportive ! I didn't

ask for judgement - all I wanted was someone to 'talk' to about my

fear of band slippage.

I'm glad you are all so supportive.

I'm so glad you are all so perfect.

>

> >> If it was as easy as you make it sound I wouldn't have needed the

> band in the first place.<<

>

> If it were as difficult as you seem to think it is, how do so many

other

> people manage to make it work and be happy about it?

>

> The band is no substitute for judgment. If you expect the band to

force

> you to lose weight, you will continue to be disappointed. The band

helps

> you by reducing hunger but only if you eat appropriately.

>

> You are the only one who decides what to put in your mouth. Just

like

> everyone else.

>

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BTW I am seeing a therapist.

> > >

> > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able

to

> > eat

> > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

> > enough.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm

off

> > to

> > > stop the chest pain.

> > >

> > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

> kinda

> > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

> brought

> > up

> > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

> > slime

> > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > >

> > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a

tiny

> > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

> without

> > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > >

> > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

> need

> > to

> > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> > >

> > > : (

> > >

> >

>

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today i had the biggest craving for pizza, but i just kept telling

myself that it would cause me to pb/vomit/whatever you call it.

that was enough to make me almost sick just thinking about it. maybe

cindy now that you have felt how awful it is, that will help you

avoid it in the future. i hope so.

At 01:24 PM 11/3/2007, you wrote:

>, ANY barf or pb can cause a slip. At the very least, they are

>likely loosening the stutures to make futurte slips even more

>possible.

>I just don't undertsnad why you really continue to test and push and

>ignore the band rules. Pasta is not a good band food . period. If

>you're serious about Band safety, losing weight, and reclaiming your

>helth, you'll stop all of this poor eating. It's a conscious choice

>you're making to eat poor foods and risk your band. You can't eat

>pasta unless you choose to buy it and prepare it.

>

>I hope you'll consider seeing a therapist to start to work on these

>issues - why you're choosing to hurt yourself and why you're not

>following the rules that will help your Band work and help you lose

>so you can live longer and healthier.

>Something is going on here, and you're often putting yourself in

>danger. Why?

>A bit of " tough love " becuase you're worth giving yourself better

>care!

>

>Sandy R

>

>

> >

> > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able to

>eat

> > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

>enough.

> >

> > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm off

>to

> > stop the chest pain.

> >

> > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and kinda

> > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I brought

>up

> > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

>slime

> > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> >

> > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a tiny

> > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold without

> > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> >

> > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just need

>to

> > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> >

> > : (

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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cindy, it is never easy. no one said it was easy. sandy is just

asking why you keep fighting it.

it is really not easy. i never said it was easy for me. the band does

really help me though by reducing the amount i eat and keeping me

from being too hungry. but i have to do my part and eat the right

things. no, it is not easy. but you have to do your part

too...really. otherwise, you will slip, barf, and be uncomfortable,

not to mention not lose weight..altho as i recall you have lost over

50 lbs which is fantastic.

At 04:18 PM 11/3/2007, you wrote:

>If it was as easy as you make it sound I wouldn't have needed the

>band in the first place.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able to

> > eat

> > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

> > enough.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm off

> > to

> > > stop the chest pain.

> > >

> > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

>kinda

> > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

>brought

> > up

> > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

> > slime

> > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > >

> > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a tiny

> > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

>without

> > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > >

> > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

>need

> > to

> > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> > >

> > > : (

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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cindy, snap out of it.

attitude wont help here.

we all naturally responded to your situation......in a pretty honest way.

what did you want us to do...say, there there cindy it will be ok? do

you really want

that? or do you want honest, touch, real dialogue.?

At 06:16 PM 11/3/2007, you wrote:

>Boy all you guys are really sympathetic and supportive ! I didn't

>ask for judgement - all I wanted was someone to 'talk' to about my

>fear of band slippage.

>

>I'm glad you are all so supportive.

>

>I'm so glad you are all so perfect.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > >> If it was as easy as you make it sound I wouldn't have needed the

> > band in the first place.<<

> >

> > If it were as difficult as you seem to think it is, how do so many

>other

> > people manage to make it work and be happy about it?

> >

> > The band is no substitute for judgment. If you expect the band to

>force

> > you to lose weight, you will continue to be disappointed. The band

>helps

> > you by reducing hunger but only if you eat appropriately.

> >

> > You are the only one who decides what to put in your mouth. Just

>like

> > everyone else.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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, how long have you been banded for. If you are relatively new to this as I

am, I completely understand where you are coming from. Don't worry about all the

comments. When I first posted, I got exactly the same response to my questions.

At first I thought, they could all take a hike but as time has gone on - only 9

weeks - I've got to understand how they all think.

> cindywebb1667 <cindywebb1667@...> wrote:

>

> BTW I am seeing a therapist.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able

> to

> > > eat

> > > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

> > > enough.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm

> off

> > > to

> > > > stop the chest pain.

> > > >

> > > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

> > kinda

> > > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

> > brought

> > > up

> > > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

> > > slime

> > > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > > >

> > > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a

> tiny

> > > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

> > without

> > > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > > >

> > > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

> > need

> > > to

> > > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> > > >

> > > > : (

> > > >

> > >

> >

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OFF WITH HER HEAD!!!!!

LOL

george

> >

> > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able to

eat

> > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

enough.

> >

> > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm off

to

> > stop the chest pain.

> >

> > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

kinda

> > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

brought up

> > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

slime

> > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> >

> > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a tiny

> > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

without

> > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> >

> > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

need to

> > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> >

> > : (

>

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cindy,

its a choice. pasta or no pasta. its as simple as that. you've

chosen banding and there are rules. yes its that simple. before

banding, you also had a choice: don't eat it or use it as comfort.

but now, you can't continue these choices and expect the band to

perform magic (or stay functionally sound).

consider past behavior up to today as in the past and begin anew at

once. with the results pasta is producing, you can't afford to risk

everything by pushing the band limits.

And this applies to everything known to be unfriendly to your band.

good luck and let us know how you proceed and how you're doing.

george

p.s. early on after a few weeks, i was out to dinner with a friend

and took a small garlic roll (my first bread product post banding. it

got stuck. several hours later, relief came. AS much as i love

bread, especially high quality ryes and multi grains, i wouldn't dare

trying it again. at least not the soft part of bread. just not

worth it. that's one lesson i'll never forget. Bell peppers,

another crappy choice for me.

> > >

> > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able

to

> > eat

> > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

> > enough.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm

off

> > to

> > > stop the chest pain.

> > >

> > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

> kinda

> > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

> brought

> > up

> > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

> > slime

> > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > >

> > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a

tiny

> > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

> without

> > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > >

> > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

> need

> > to

> > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> > >

> > > : (

> > >

> >

>

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cindy,

this board is for support and learning from each other and experts in

the area of banding. please don't take an attitude. we are here to

help.

and please, if you're brand of support is a pat on the back and the

assurance that everything will be okay, this isn't the place to seek

it.

when someone is making mistakes, we must put in a correction. please

look at the commentary as in your best interest. Sharon and Sandy

and I are not being self-righteous when we say its your choice, don't

hide behind the notion that its " hard " . We've all been there and

learned where the responsibility lies.

and yes, your original intention was to ascertain whether or not you

injured yourself, but the fact is that you were misbehaving, band

wise, and if you don't put in the corrections you'll likely find

yourself in big trouble.

we care about your success and will continue to make you feel good

when its appropriate and give you the gears when that's appropriate.

now the most important thing is that you take this in and continue to

post and read the digests. please don't get pissed off and leave.

that would not be in your best interest.

believe me, in no time at all, you will be the one issuing " tough

love " on this board.

we care or we wouldn't waste our time here.

george

> >

> > >> If it was as easy as you make it sound I wouldn't have needed

the

> > band in the first place.<<

> >

> > If it were as difficult as you seem to think it is, how do so

many

> other

> > people manage to make it work and be happy about it?

> >

> > The band is no substitute for judgment. If you expect the band to

> force

> > you to lose weight, you will continue to be disappointed. The

band

> helps

> > you by reducing hunger but only if you eat appropriately.

> >

> > You are the only one who decides what to put in your mouth. Just

> like

> > everyone else.

> >

>

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Diane,

i too have a craving for pizza. i love a thin variety with fried

eggplant on it. oooh, yum-yum. I'd also like to be 30 again.

neither of the above are going to happen. LOL

george

> > >

> > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able

to

> >eat

> > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

> >enough.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm

off

> >to

> > > stop the chest pain.

> > >

> > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

kinda

> > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

brought

> >up

> > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

> >slime

> > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > >

> > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a

tiny

> > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

without

> > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > >

> > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

need

> >to

> > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> > >

> > > : (

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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,

i'm laughing. how do we think? like serial killers or what?. LOL

you crack me up.

george

> > > > >

> > > > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been

able

> > to

> > > > eat

> > > > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it

well

> > > > enough.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right

arm

> > off

> > > > to

> > > > > stop the chest pain.

> > > > >

> > > > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous

and

> > > kinda

> > > > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

> > > brought

> > > > up

> > > > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced

little

> > > > slime

> > > > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > > > >

> > > > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have

a

> > tiny

> > > > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

> > > without

> > > > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high

under my

> > > > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > > > >

> > > > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I

just

> > > need

> > > > to

> > > > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch

for.

> > > > >

> > > > > : (

> > > > >

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actually, i would love to be 20 again.

i am so much smarter now!!!! but i was so much more able then!!!

At 08:51 AM 11/4/2007, you wrote:

>Diane,

>

>i too have a craving for pizza. i love a thin variety with fried

>eggplant on it. oooh, yum-yum. I'd also like to be 30 again.

>neither of the above are going to happen. LOL

>

>george

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able

>to

> > >eat

> > > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

> > >enough.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm

>off

> > >to

> > > > stop the chest pain.

> > > >

> > > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

>kinda

> > > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

>brought

> > >up

> > > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

> > >slime

> > > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > > >

> > > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a

>tiny

> > > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

>without

> > > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > > >

> > > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

>need

> > >to

> > > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> > > >

> > > > : (

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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You bet it will - thanks for not chastising me Diane.

> > >

> > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able

to

> >eat

> > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

> >enough.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm

off

> >to

> > > stop the chest pain.

> > >

> > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

kinda

> > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

brought

> >up

> > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

> >slime

> > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > >

> > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a

tiny

> > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

without

> > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > >

> > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

need

> >to

> > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> > >

> > > : (

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I have been banded since 7/24/07. I was told by my center that I

should try each food one at a time (like a baby)till I see how I

tolerate it. Although pasta was listed as a probably problem food we

were NOT told NOT to eat it. We were told that everyone is different

(BTW I can eat pizza with NO Problems)and if a food causes us

problems to introduce it at another time. I've eaten pasta many

times with no problem. This time, however, I ate too fast (I am

still learning).

All I wanted to know what what I might have done by puking. Everyone

I've ever spoken to has pb's or slimed or thrown up at least once. I

wasn't testing limits - I was eating a food that I've eaten before

(in tiny amounts I might add) and ran into a problem that made me

want to get support from others who have been down the path I'm going.

Thats it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been

able

> > to

> > > > eat

> > > > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it

well

> > > > enough.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right

arm

> > off

> > > > to

> > > > > stop the chest pain.

> > > > >

> > > > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous

and

> > > kinda

> > > > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

> > > brought

> > > > up

> > > > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced

little

> > > > slime

> > > > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > > > >

> > > > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have

a

> > tiny

> > > > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

> > > without

> > > > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high

under my

> > > > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > > > >

> > > > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I

just

> > > need

> > > > to

> > > > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch

for.

> > > > >

> > > > > : (

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

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I was looking for information - not attitude.

This is obviously not the group for me.

> > >

> > > >> If it was as easy as you make it sound I wouldn't have

needed the

> > > band in the first place.<<

> > >

> > > If it were as difficult as you seem to think it is, how do so

many

> >other

> > > people manage to make it work and be happy about it?

> > >

> > > The band is no substitute for judgment. If you expect the band

to

> >force

> > > you to lose weight, you will continue to be disappointed. The

band

> >helps

> > > you by reducing hunger but only if you eat appropriately.

> > >

> > > You are the only one who decides what to put in your mouth. Just

> >like

> > > everyone else.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yes I feel the same way. I fear posting also. Yes I want

honest answers and not coddling, but I want answers not judgements.

I've had enough people judge me for being fat - I don't need people

judging me for making mistakes along my journey to thinness. I'm not

making mistakes on purpose. I've eaten incorrectly for 40 years -

I'm not going to automatically start eating right cause someone wrote

material on it.

Oh how easy it is to be at goal and judge those who are trying to get

there.

How easy it is for thin people to look at fat people and think " why

don't they just eat right? "

I want to benefit from other's experiences and since people seem to

be afraid to post here - I'm not getting that benefit.

> > >

> > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been able

to

> eat

> > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it well

> enough.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm

off

> to

> > > stop the chest pain.

> > >

> > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

> kinda

> > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

> brought up

> > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced little

> slime

> > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > >

> > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a

tiny

> > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

> without

> > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under my

> > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > >

> > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

> need to

> > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch for.

> > >

> > > : (

> >

>

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But I wouldn't know if bell peppers were bad for me unless I tried

them right?

> > > >

> > > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been

able

> to

> > > eat

> > > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it

well

> > > enough.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right arm

> off

> > > to

> > > > stop the chest pain.

> > > >

> > > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous and

> > kinda

> > > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

> > brought

> > > up

> > > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced

little

> > > slime

> > > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > > >

> > > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have a

> tiny

> > > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

> > without

> > > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high under

my

> > > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > > >

> > > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I just

> > need

> > > to

> > > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch

for.

> > > >

> > > > : (

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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as i have said in the past. pasta and pizza and bread were the things

that helped me get fat.

so even if i think i might be able to eat them, i tell myself that i

cannot because i will puke, which i hate.

i do every once and a while have a bite of bread , a piece of pasta,

etc. but it doesnt taste so good when i have to

cut it into tiny pieces, and chew it to death. so i dont eat it for

now. it doesnt mean i never will, but i have sort of

given them up based upon the majority of banded folks that have

problems with them. i am not in the mood

to test whether i can eat something that isnt very good for me. i do

test myself for food that is good for me though.

i love this board because no one minces words, no one coddles me, but

just tells it to me like it is. but they do so

out of kindness and no malice or anything but wanting to help. that

is, i believe, the spirit in which people responded to you.

i hope you can see that. i feel that folks sympathize and empathize though.

i am sort of glad it happened to you because you now know how AWFUL

it feels!!! as i said before, i HATE it.

quite often i will be eating something i like, and i start feeling

that feeling, and i get really mad because i am not ready

to stop eating it.

At 12:51 PM 11/4/2007, you wrote:

>I have been banded since 7/24/07. I was told by my center that I

>should try each food one at a time (like a baby)till I see how I

>tolerate it. Although pasta was listed as a probably problem food we

>were NOT told NOT to eat it. We were told that everyone is different

>(BTW I can eat pizza with NO Problems)and if a food causes us

>problems to introduce it at another time. I've eaten pasta many

>times with no problem. This time, however, I ate too fast (I am

>still learning).

>

>All I wanted to know what what I might have done by puking. Everyone

>I've ever spoken to has pb's or slimed or thrown up at least once. I

>wasn't testing limits - I was eating a food that I've eaten before

>(in tiny amounts I might add) and ran into a problem that made me

>want to get support from others who have been down the path I'm going.

>

>Thats it.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I ate pasta tonight and ended up really stuck. I've been

>able

> > > to

> > > > > eat

> > > > > > pasta in the past, but this time I guess I didn't chew it

>well

> > > > > enough.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, I was in massive pain and would have cut my right

>arm

> > > off

> > > > > to

> > > > > > stop the chest pain.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I PB'd - I slimed and I was still stuck. I got nauseous

>and

> > > > kinda

> > > > > > forced myself to gag (sorry this is so gross but I'm really

> > > > > > worried). Once I gagged, my stomach started wretching. I

> > > > brought

> > > > > up

> > > > > > some undigested food, but mostly the wretching produced

>little

> > > > > slime

> > > > > > balls. I finally calmed my stomach down.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could I have caused my stomach (band) to slip? I now have

>a

> > > tiny

> > > > > > stomach ache and sinus's that feel like I'm getting a cold

> > > > without

> > > > > > the stuffed up nose. The left side of my stomach high

>under my

> > > > > > breast is very achy (like muscles that hurt after vomiting).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No need to tell me how stupid I just was - I know it. I

>just

> > > > need

> > > > > to

> > > > > > know what I might have done to my stomach and what to watch

>for.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > : (

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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