Re: Male ferritin levels

[Guest guest]

HI Rod

Go to our website www.tpa-uk.org.uk and under 'Hypothyroidism' you can click on 'Other conditions' you can read there about Ferritin and what you can do to help yourself. Some people say that Spatone is not strong enough for them, others claim it is. You should talk to your doctor and see if he will prescribe some elemental iron such as Ferrous Sulphate but if he does prescribe this, make sure you take it at least 3 to 4 hours away from your thyroxine. I have not heard of the ferritin reference range being as high as 400 - I thought it was 30 to 300 for males and 20 to 200 for females.

Luv - Sheila

HiHaven't posted for a while but I thought I'd wish everyone a happy xmas.I've just had a ferritin test done as I suspected that it might be whymy maximum body temps were never getting up to 37.0, even though Iknow my dose of thyroxine is good enough. This all started as I had abig crash in my adrenals over the summer, and even though I'm back ona good dose of hydro cortisone my body temps never peak above 36.7. Idid notice a drop in the max body temp from May when my adrenals wentpear-shaped.Anyway my level is 58.8, and the NpTech chaps say that the male rangeis 30-400. I've just emailed Dr P for his advice. I did purchase someSpatone from Boots, as I read here that's on 3 for 2, and I've startedtaking it.Whilst waiting to hear from Dr P, does anyone else have any advice for me?ThanksRod

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[Guest guest]

Hi Rod,

I haven't got any advice for you but can tell you my ferritin levels

were 66 ug/l and the range was 28-365. My doctor seemed happy with the

level but i am starting to ask myself if my level should be higher.

i also wonder why the reference range is so large. Surely there is a

difference between someone with ferritin levels of 28 and another with

365?

I am going to get re-checked.

[Guest guest]

I don't understand the wide reference range for Ferritin either . I have been told that for women to feel well, the ferritin level should be at least 70 and above and for men at least 90 or above. Yet, when reading this abstract from PubMed, I am still at a loss to understand their 'mean' levels for men and women. I need this explaining to me.

luv - Sheila

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed & list_uids=10734786 & cmd=Retrieve & indexed=google

Asibey-Berko E, Acquaye JK, Orraca-Tetteh R, Amuasi J.

Department of Nutrition, University of Ghana Medical School, Accra, Ghana.

Serum ferritin levels were determined in 85 Healthy Ghanaian adults (45 men and 39 women) with a Ciba Corning 125I-Ferritin procedure. Concentrations showed a non-guassian distribution. Values for males ranged from 5.6-273 ng/ml and from 0.74-135 ng/ml for females. The non-guassian nature of the distribution necessitated a logarithmic transformation of the data in order to calculate the serum ferritin reference range (Mean +/- 2SD) for the subjects. The reference range for the males (antilogarithm) was 8.5-306.5 ng/ml (mean = 51.0 ng/ml). The reference range for the Ghanaian women was 3-112 ng/ml (mean = 18.0 ng/ml). The reported reference range for the Caucasian male is 7-350 ng/ml (mean -51.0 ng/ml) and for the Caucasian female, 5-135 ng/ml (mean = 22.0 ng/ml). These Ghanaian reference ranges agree closely with the caucasian values. Data from this preliminary study suggest serum ferritin values of < 8.5 ng/ml and < 3 ng/ml could serve as cut-off points below which iron deficiency may be said to be present in the adult Ghanaian male and female respectively when the same method of analysis is used. A further study of ferritin levels in the Ghanaian is recommended. Pending further work, continued use of the conventional cut-off points of 20 ng/ml for males and 10 ng/ml for females to identify iron-deficient individuals is in order. These conventional cut-off points enhance chances for identifying iron-deficient individuals.

PMID: 10734786 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Re: Male ferritin levels

Hi Rod,I haven't got any advice for you but can tell you my ferritin levelswere 66 ug/l and the range was 28-365. My doctor seemed happy with thelevel but i am starting to ask myself if my level should be higher.i also wonder why the reference range is so large. Surely there is adifference between someone with ferritin levels of 28 and another with365?I am going to get re-checked.

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think this is one of those 'being inside the range is okay' things,

whereas just like the thyroid,a large proportional of people feel good

somewhere in the middlish of the range and others may feel better

towards the upper and lower values. Everyone is different. One test

I'm doing is taking 2 doses of Spatone a day, which is suggested if

you want to raise your level quicker. I'm checking my body temps, and

hoping to see an increase in my average measurements. This will

hopefully suggest better T4 to T3 conversion. I'll give it a month and

see where I am (seeing as though I did buy the 3 for 2 offer at Boots

:-) ). Also wait to see what Dr P recommends.

Rod

>

> Hi Rod,

>

> I haven't got any advice for you but can tell you my ferritin levels

> were 66 ug/l and the range was 28-365. My doctor seemed happy with the

> level but i am starting to ask myself if my level should be higher.

>

> i also wonder why the reference range is so large. Surely there is a

> difference between someone with ferritin levels of 28 and another with

> 365?

>

> I am going to get re-checked.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

This has piqued my interest as it's Maths and I studied this at

University. Though Statistics was not my favourite subject, I am a bit

of a Maths swot. I'm going to do some research on this and try and

decipher what they've done with the numbers :-)

Rod

>

> I don't understand the wide reference range for Ferritin either

. I have been told that for women to feel well, the ferritin level

should be at least 70 and above and for men at least 90 or above. Yet,

when reading this abstract from PubMed, I am still at a loss to

understand their 'mean' levels for men and women. I need this

explaining to me.

>

> luv - Sheila

>

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed & list_uids=10734786 & cmd=Retrie\

ve & indexed=google

>

> Asibey-Berko E, Acquaye JK, Orraca-Tetteh R, Amuasi J.

> Department of Nutrition, University of Ghana Medical School, Accra,

Ghana.

>

> Serum ferritin levels were determined in 85 Healthy Ghanaian adults

(45 men and 39 women).....

[Guest guest]

Rod,

I met my doctor today and asked him about body temperatures. He said

that even when his hypo patients have recovered their health and feel

a lot better he can not seem to get their body temperatures up

[Guest guest]

HI

I am properly medicated and recovered, burt I can never raise my body temperature. My feet and hands are better then they used to be, because my feet at times looked almost grey, now they are pink but my body is always cold to the touch, and moy temperature never rises above 97.4.

Luv - Sheila

Rod,I met my doctor today and asked him about body temperatures. He saidthat even when his hypo patients have recovered their health and feela lot better he can not seem to get their body temperatures up

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Shiela (I dont know why this has gone into double spacing!).this explanation of what 'mean' means is lifted from mathforum.org - I remember doing about the different types of averages, but forgot which is the mean!It will be interesting to know what Rod makes of this study from a statistician'sviewpoint, but this is a good explanation of what the study means by the mean - I dont think it really adds anything to what the normal range is!GillMean, median, and mode are all types of averages, although the mean is the most common type of average and usually refers to the _arithmetic mean_ (There are other kinds of means that are more difficult).

The arithmetic mean is a simple type of average. Suppose you want to know what your numerical average is in your math class. Let's say your grades so far are 80, 90, 92, and 78 on the four quizzes you have had. To find your quiz average, add up the four grades:

80 + 90 + 92 + 78 = 340

Then divide that answer by the number of grades that you started with, four: 340 / 4 = 85. So, your quiz average is 85! Whenever you want to find a mean, just add up all the numbers and divide by however many numbers you started with.

[Guest guest]

Hi , Sheila etc,

I seem to be one

of the lucky ones. I feel warm now ( from temps that could go a low as 95.8

under a thick duvet and with a warm spouse. My temps still won’t go over

98, but are nearly there. I think that it is just another of those personal

variables. I recall that US govt research on troops subject to cold injury ( frostbite etc) is

was easiest to weed those susceptible out by simply asking ‘ do you like

the cold?’ I feel that all us hypos would answer NO.

HI

I am properly medicated and

recovered, burt I can never raise my body temperature. My feet and hands are

better then they used to be, because my feet at times looked almost grey, now

they are pink but my body is always cold to the touch, and moy temperature

never rises above 97.4.

Luv - Sheila

Rod,

I met my doctor today and asked him about body temperatures. He said

that even when his hypo patients have recovered their health and feel

a lot better he can not seem to get their body temperatures up

..

Always consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing

medication.