Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 9:56:11 AM, you wrote: o> The doctors recommend taking apirin or ibuprofin to cut the pain o> and swelling, but with a band we're not supposed to take the stuff. o> I tried taking the liquid children's Ib, but all it did was make my o> tongue numb and did absolutely nothing for the pain. What can one do? I take ibuprofen on occasion. Take it with a warm drink to wash it through, and then drink more to wash it on through so it won't irritate stomach. Personally, I think the anti-ibuprofen thing is overdone IF you don't have other stomach problems and IF you make sure it gets through the stoma instead of just sitting there irritating it. But of course I'm not your doctor..... dan Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 323/209/199 Age 61 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 The Nsaids are good to avoid if you can at all. They can harm the stomach in 2 ways - by damaging the membranes by coming into contact with them, but - more importantly - by getting into the bloodstream (as all swallowed meds do) and altering the protective stomach chemicals and hormones that are essential in avoiding stomach damage. You can avoid the " contact " issue by being careful to wash them (and all meds) completely through the stoma, but you can never avoid the potential damage from getting into the bloodstream. some can get away with NSAIDs for a short period of time, but I've known several people who got severe gastitis after only a day or two of NSAIDs and one needed hospitalization. You and your doc need to decide what to do. You might try the ibuprophen liquid for a couple days and be VERY attune to any burning, pain, or stomach irritation. you might also avoid coffee, OJ, alcohol and other stomach irritants during this time. Good luck - Sandy R > I have a question about pain relievers. I over did it at work a > couple of weeks ago and ended up with shin splints, killer ones. > I've been doing all I can to get the darn things healed up-- > elevation and cold packs. Since I can't stay home from work ( entry > level, on call, no sick leave.. don't work --there's the door type > job) It's taking a lot longer than necessary to heal. > The doctors recommend taking apirin or ibuprofin to cut the pain > and swelling, but with a band we're not supposed to take the stuff. > I tried taking the liquid children's Ib, but all it did was make my > tongue numb and did absolutely nothing for the pain. What can one do? > > Otter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Sandy, I have been on Celebrex for severe arthritis for several years with the full knowledge of my surgeon and the only time I went off of it was for 10 days prior to and after my surgery. The surgeon and my family physician feel that my being able to move and get around far ouweighs the small chance of stomach damage caused by N-saids. It is a very individual thing and many people cannot do them without damage and symptoms of that damage. Symptoms will occur if you have problems with N-saids. I fully agree that using plenty of fluid to get them through the band and then through the stomcah is very important ti prevent contact damage. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Otter have you tried Exedrin quick tabs? I think they are marvelous. They don't taste all that swell, but they melt really fast and you can just drink water after you eat them. They take about 30 minutes to work, but they do work. I used these alot during the first 2 weeks post-op. Hope you're feeling better. Kerrie In a message dated 9/30/2004 7:56:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: The doctors recommend taking apirin or ibuprofin to cut the pain and swelling, but with a band we're not supposed to take the stuff. I tried taking the liquid children's Ib, but all it did was make my tongue numb and did absolutely nothing for the pain. What can one do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 When discussing medications with my doctor, he indicated that THESE issues are actually attributable to Naproxin Salts (Aleve, Aleve Caplet, Anaprox, Anaprox-DS, EC Naprosyn, Naprelan, Naprosyn), which NSAIDs, but that other NSAIDs, taken in moderation, did not cause these results. Because of that, I use liquid tylenol with no ill effect. Of course, YMMV (your mileage may vary) and please check with YOUR doctor. Mona > The Nsaids are good to avoid if you can at all. They can harm the > stomach in 2 ways - by damaging the membranes by coming into contact > with them, but - more importantly - by getting into the bloodstream > (as all swallowed meds do) and altering the protective stomach > chemicals and hormones that are essential in avoiding stomach damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Yes, these are very good meds - but it is *still* as impt as with *any* other med to drink a glass of fluid after them to wash them completely through! ALL meds can be very irritating to stomach tissues, when the med sits there as it can with a banded stomach. Bandsters have different needs than most others, particularly regarding meds and irritating foods and drink. Keeping your stomach safe and the band healthy is very impt. sandy RN > Otter have you tried Exedrin quick tabs? I think they are marvelous. They > don't taste all that swell, but they melt really fast and you can just drink > water after you eat them. They take about 30 minutes to work, but they do work. I > used these alot during the first 2 weeks post-op. Hope you're feeling better. > > Kerrie > > In a message dated 9/30/2004 7:56:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, > writes: > The doctors recommend taking apirin or ibuprofin to cut the pain > and swelling, but with a band we're not supposed to take the stuff. > I tried taking the liquid children's Ib, but all it did was make my > tongue numb and did absolutely nothing for the pain. What can one do? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Yes, these are very good meds - but it is *still* as impt as with *any* other med to drink a glass of fluid after them to wash them completely through! ALL meds can be very irritating to stomach tissues, when the med sits there as it can with a banded stomach. Bandsters have different needs than most others, particularly regarding meds and irritating foods and drink. Keeping your stomach safe and the band healthy is very impt. sandy RN > Otter have you tried Exedrin quick tabs? I think they are marvelous. They > don't taste all that swell, but they melt really fast and you can just drink > water after you eat them. They take about 30 minutes to work, but they do work. I > used these alot during the first 2 weeks post-op. Hope you're feeling better. > > Kerrie > > In a message dated 9/30/2004 7:56:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, > writes: > The doctors recommend taking apirin or ibuprofin to cut the pain > and swelling, but with a band we're not supposed to take the stuff. > I tried taking the liquid children's Ib, but all it did was make my > tongue numb and did absolutely nothing for the pain. What can one do? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I'm afraid this simply is not true. ALL the NSAIDS can cause trouble for bandsters - and non-bandsters as well. ALL have been documented to cause trouble, not just those with the naproxen salts. Tylenol is NOT an NSAID, so it is generally ok to take, unless you have liver damage or drink a lot, or are allergic to it. ALL medications have possible side-effects. There are lots of reports on the boards of people who got into serious trouble with even a few doses of NSAIDS, some even requiring hospitalization and transfusions. Vioxx has just today been removed from the market because of links to heart attacks and strokes. One lady said, in repsonding to someone who said his doctor ok'd NSAIDS: " My doctor also ok'd a few doses of ibuprophen. He also ok'd my hospital admission 3 days later with severe bleeding gastritis. " SAndy RN > > The Nsaids are good to avoid if you can at all. They can harm the > > stomach in 2 ways - by damaging the membranes by coming into > contact > > with them, but - more importantly - by getting into the > bloodstream > > (as all swallowed meds do) and altering the protective stomach > > chemicals and hormones that are essential in avoiding stomach > damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Before I got banded I tried them. They gave me the worse heart burn I've ever had..and I rarely ever get heart burn. I thought they would be a good option after banding but now am afraid to bother with them since that awful stomach bout I had with the acid coming back up. I remember drinking water with them too, they just didn't work for me. Best of luck with them as they do seem to be a viable option to those who can't swallow pills or don't want to crush them. Kem in Eugene 286/266/150 Dr. Neal 8.6.04 <º)))>< << Subject: Re: Pain Relief Question Otter have you tried Exedrin quick tabs? I think they are marvelous. They don't taste all that swell, but they melt really fast and you can just drink water after you eat them. They take about 30 minutes to work, but they do work. I used these alot during the first 2 weeks post-op. Hope you're feeling better. Kerrie>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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