Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 What is this "medorl" you say for adrenals instead of Cortef? Do you mean prednisolone, if so, what's your dose and how often and how much do you take? You need good adrenal support in order to be able to tolerate the thyroid hormone if you have adrenal fatigue. Also, besides your antibodies showing up at some point, do you have HYPOTHYROIDISM symptoms? Do you also have adrenal fatigue symptoms, e.g. difficulty coping with stress, fatigue, hypoglycemic stuff, circadian rhythm disturbed, etc.? What are all your symptoms in general? Diagnosed with hashimoto I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies arenormal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks maybeI never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point andtime. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. I was told I hadadrenal fatige and am on medorl because could not tolerate the HC. Could not tolerate the amour. Now he has me on 75 mcg oflevothyroxine and feel like I am going to die. But felt this way onthe armour too. Tried to take irodol and that made me even morecrazy and fatiqued. He said it could do that in the beginning. Healso started 2.5mcg of compounded T3 timed released 2x a day. Whywill nothing work for me. What is this crazy disease that none of thedoctors know how to deal with. How often should I raise thelevothyroxine. It took me about a monthe to get to 75mcg. I took itslowly. How often can I raise it. I don't think he will go any higheron it.Free T3 271 (230-420)Free T4 is 1.2 (.8- 1.8)What should my levels get too. When I was taking the armour at 3 /14my T-3 went way over and they backed off and I was sick as a dog. ButI am sick as a dog with these levels too. Dose anybody experiencesevere dry heaving and vomiting with hashi/s Ellne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 how much HC were you on...at least 20-25 mg.? I'm surprised thyroid antibodies totally disappeared...I'd be curious what your numbers were initially when you were diagnosed. I'd suspect the adrenal problems for the vomiting...although i can remember some bouts of dry heaving and nauseas with just severe hypo. have you posted your info at Adrenal forum at www.stopthethyroidmadness.com ? valerie, the forum moderator there, can probably help you on this. cindi > > I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies are > normal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks maybe > I never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point and > time. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I think she means Medrol which is Methylprednisolone..stronger than HC. If i remember correctly, 1 mg. of Medrol = 5 mg. of HC. cindi > > What is this " medorl " you say for adrenals instead of Cortef? Do you mean prednisolone, if so, what's your dose and how often and how much do you take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Cindi-- I am now finding this quite interesting because my antibodies almost disappeared too after a few months on prednisolone. My TPO antibody level went down to only "2" points past the reference range. This is virtually nothing; I guess. Before that, it was about 12 points above the reference range. MMHHMM!! This brings up LOTS of questions about what adrenal insufficiency which goes undiagnosed does to our thyroid gland.... Re: Diagnosed with hashimoto how much HC were you on...at least 20-25 mg.?I'm surprised thyroid antibodies totally disappeared...I'd be curious what your numbers were initially when you were diagnosed. I'd suspect the adrenal problems for the vomiting...although i can remember some bouts of dry heaving and nauseas with just severe hypo. have you posted your info at Adrenal forum at www.stopthethyroidmadness.com ? valerie, the forum moderator there, can probably help you on this. cindi>> I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies are> normal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks maybe> I never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point and> time. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 gosh sandra, i didn't remember that about cortisol and thyroid antibodies until you mentioned it here...but Jefferies pointed out this could happen with physiologic doses of cortisol...he said about one case " the evidence that her elevated thyroid antibody titers could be returned to normal by a temporary increase of cortisol suggested that this therapeutic approach might possibly result in a longer lasting or even a permanent remission in her chronic thyroiditis... " ...this was in the chapter " Other Autoimmune Disorders " in the section " chronic thyroiditis " . > > Cindi-- > > I am now finding this quite interesting because my antibodies almost disappeared too after a few months on prednisolone. My TPO antibody level went down to only " 2 " points past the reference range. This is virtually nothing; I guess. Before that, it was about 12 points above the reference range. MMHHMM!! This brings up LOTS of questions about what adrenal insufficiency which goes undiagnosed does to our thyroid gland.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 >From: " cindi22595 " <cindi22595@...> >how much HC were you on...at least 20-25 mg.? >I'm surprised thyroid antibodies totally disappeared It's not unusual at all. Most doctors don't bother monitoring antibodies once you've been diagnosed. Not even Arem (Thyroid Solution.) Yet, they go away on cortisol, They can go away with selenium, Or per thyroidmanager.org, the Hashimoto's chapter - http://thyroidmanager.org/Chapter8/8-frame.htm " Generally the progression from euthyroidism to hypothyroidism has been considered an irreversible process due to thyroid cell damage and loss of thyroidal iodine stores (Fig. 8-4). However, it is now clear that up to one-fourth of patients who are hypothyroid may spontaneously return to normal function over the course of several years. This sequence may reflect the initial effect of high titers of thyroid stimulation blocking antibodies which fall with time and allow thyroid function to return(23). " Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.\ live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create & wx_url=/friends.aspx & mk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 what i thought unusual was that she had just been diagnosed in May...and they were already gone...seemed pretty fast to me. cindi > > >From: " cindi22595 " <cindi22595@...> > > >how much HC were you on...at least 20-25 mg.? > >I'm surprised thyroid antibodies totally disappeared > > It's not unusual at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 ya suppose they mean " TSH normal " for " thyroid function to return? cindi > > > http://thyroidmanager.org/Chapter8/8-frame.htm > " Generally the progression from euthyroidism to hypothyroidism has been > considered an irreversible process due to thyroid cell damage and loss of > thyroidal iodine stores (Fig. 8-4). However, it is now clear that up to > one-fourth of patients who are hypothyroid may spontaneously return to > normal function over the course of several years. This sequence may reflect > the initial effect of high titers of thyroid stimulation blocking antibodies > which fall with time and allow thyroid function to return(23). " > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends > list. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/? href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx? wx_action=create & wx_url=/friends.aspx & mk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 >From: " cindi22595 " <cindi22595@...> >ya suppose they mean " TSH normal " for " thyroid function to return? >cindi I suppose it means that not everyone is hypothyroid today will be hypothyroid next year. Sometimes it's only transient, the same with Hashimoto's. Sometimes it's dietary. Sometimes it's exposure to toxins. Sometimes it's stress. Sometimes it's unhappy circumstances. The emotional state does affect the physical. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.\ live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create & wx_url=/friends.aspx & mk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Yes, I have been on stop a lot. Posted with both and Chris. HC was not strong enough, went to Medrol and now trying to wean off of it since June of 06. I vomit and dry heave on the HC, medrol and off of it. That is why I started because I could not tolerate any thryoid (armour meds) Adrenal very low. If you would you could look at all my post with and gosh just about everyone on there. I just cannot seem to get better. I think since March I have had only a few good days. Thryroid antibodies were in over 662 (ref. 230-420) in March and now normal 30 with (ref.less than 35). I feel absolutely crazy and agitated with sever chest pains. I am on atenalol 25mg My TSH now is 1.99 Free T4 - 1.2 (.8 - 1.8) Free T3 271 (230- 420) Thanks Ellen > > > > I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies are > > normal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks > maybe > > I never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point and > > time. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 It is cortisol, just a little stronger. I take 6mg a day. I do have hypo symtoms and then swing to hyper. When I am hyper I cannot deal with anything. Maybe I am hypo and think it is hyper. I am shaky, crazy, crying all the time, no sleep then I sleep. NOt sure what circadian rhythm distrubance is thought. > > What is this " medorl " you say for adrenals instead of Cortef? Do you mean prednisolone, if so, what's your dose and how often and how much do you take? You need good adrenal support in order to be able to tolerate the thyroid hormone if you have adrenal fatigue. Also, besides your antibodies showing up at some point, do you have HYPOTHYROIDISM symptoms? Do you also have adrenal fatigue symptoms, e.g. difficulty coping with stress, fatigue, hypoglycemic stuff, circadian rhythm disturbed, etc.? What are all your symptoms in general? > > > Diagnosed with hashimoto > > > I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies are > normal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks maybe > I never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point and > time. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. I was told I had > adrenal fatige and am on medorl because could not tolerate the HC. > Could not tolerate the amour. Now he has me on 75 mcg of > levothyroxine and feel like I am going to die. But felt this way on > the armour too. Tried to take irodol and that made me even more > crazy and fatiqued. He said it could do that in the beginning. He > also started 2.5mcg of compounded T3 timed released 2x a day. Why > will nothing work for me. What is this crazy disease that none of the > doctors know how to deal with. How often should I raise the > levothyroxine. It took me about a monthe to get to 75mcg. I took it > slowly. How often can I raise it. I don't think he will go any higher > on it. > > Free T3 271 (230-420) > Free T4 is 1.2 (.8- 1.8) > > What should my levels get too. When I was taking the armour at 3 /14 > my T-3 went way over and they backed off and I was sick as a dog. But > I am sick as a dog with these levels too. Dose anybody experience > severe dry heaving and vomiting with hashi/s > > Ellne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I think you are right about that. > > > > What is this " medorl " you say for adrenals instead of Cortef? Do you > mean prednisolone, if so, what's your dose and how often and how much > do you take? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I guess my doctor does not know that the antibodies can change with time- -- In iodine , " Skipper Beers " <lsb149@...> wrote: > > >From: " cindi22595 " <cindi22595@...> > > >how much HC were you on...at least 20-25 mg.? > >I'm surprised thyroid antibodies totally disappeared > > It's not unusual at all. > > Most doctors don't bother monitoring antibodies once you've been diagnosed. > Not even Arem (Thyroid Solution.) > > Yet, they go away on cortisol, > > They can go away with selenium, > > Or per thyroidmanager.org, the Hashimoto's chapter - > > http://thyroidmanager.org/Chapter8/8-frame.htm > " Generally the progression from euthyroidism to hypothyroidism has been > considered an irreversible process due to thyroid cell damage and loss of > thyroidal iodine stores (Fig. 8-4). However, it is now clear that up to > one-fourth of patients who are hypothyroid may spontaneously return to > normal function over the course of several years. This sequence may reflect > the initial effect of high titers of thyroid stimulation blocking antibodies > which fall with time and allow thyroid function to return(23). " > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends > list. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.\ live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create & wx_url=/friends.aspx & mk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I am not sure that I should be trying to lower the medrol. My doctor says that is why I am feeling the way I am. I am just not sure my adrenals are ready to get off of this yet. What do you guys think Ellen -- In iodine , " Gikas " <skg59@...> wrote: > > Cindi-- > > I am now finding this quite interesting because my antibodies almost disappeared too after a few months on prednisolone. My TPO antibody level went down to only " 2 " points past the reference range. This is virtually nothing; I guess. Before that, it was about 12 points above the reference range. MMHHMM!! This brings up LOTS of questions about what adrenal insufficiency which goes undiagnosed does to our thyroid gland.... > > > Re: Diagnosed with hashimoto > > > how much HC were you on...at least 20-25 mg.? > I'm surprised thyroid antibodies totally disappeared...I'd be > curious what your numbers were initially when you were diagnosed. > I'd suspect the adrenal problems for the vomiting...although i can > remember some bouts of dry heaving and nauseas with just severe > hypo. > > have you posted your info at Adrenal forum at > www.stopthethyroidmadness.com ? valerie, the forum moderator there, > can probably help you on this. > cindi > > > > > > I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies are > > normal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks > maybe > > I never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point and > > time. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 >From: " mem_mem_me " <maryellenmu@...> >It is cortisol, just a little stronger. No, it is not cortisol. It is a synthetic analog - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/analog 1. Chemistry. one of a group of chemical compounds similar in structure but different in respect to elemental composition. 2. Chemistry A structural derivative of a parent compound that often differs from it by a single element. ************** They make analogs because they make more money by patenting drugs. This is from Medrol information, which means it's not controversial, it's what the company would say. Note, Medrol and the analogs are generally not used for adrenal insufficiency - http://rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methprd_cp.htm Naturally occurring glucocorticoids (hydrocortisone and cortisone), which also have salt-retaining properties, are used as replacement therapy in adrenocortical deficiency states. Their synthetic analogs are primarily used for their potent anti-inflammatory effects in disorders of many organ systems. ***************** What did taking hydrocortisone do to you that you could not tolerate it? Not allergic to yellow die #2 are you (in some food products and aspirin, I may be wrong about the number.) I could not tolerate Prednisone, as I tried it because it's much cheaper. At the time, I didn't know hydrocortisone was a bio-identical hormone. I took Pred for a few days, and had to switch back and recover, which took a couple weeks. It's not nearly identical. Maybe there's a reason it works better for you. Maybe it's causing part of the problems as Prednisone can make you moody and mean. Also, not unusual for the hypothyroid to want to cry. I remember those days, and did not enjoy them. Cortisol does keep you awake, and Medrol would have long lasting effect. Melatonin is helpful when cortisol is a bit high. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ View Athlete’s Collections with Live Search http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=hmemailtaglinenov06 & FORM=MGAC01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 How do I wean myself off of medrol. How long should I take and how do I lowere the dose. from 6mg. What if I cannot get off of it. Can I add cortef while I am lowering it. Don't know what to do or how. My doc says one mg every 2 weeks but he is not replacing it with anything. > > >From: " mem_mem_me " <maryellenmu@...> > > >It is cortisol, just a little stronger. > > No, it is not cortisol. It is a synthetic analog - > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/analog > 1. Chemistry. one of a group of chemical compounds similar in structure but > different in respect to elemental composition. > 2. Chemistry A structural derivative of a parent compound that often > differs from it by a single element. > ************** > > They make analogs because they make more money by patenting drugs. This is > from Medrol information, which means it's not controversial, it's what the > company would say. Note, Medrol and the analogs are generally not used for > adrenal insufficiency - > > http://rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methprd_cp.htm > Naturally occurring glucocorticoids (hydrocortisone and cortisone), which > also have salt-retaining properties, are used as replacement therapy in > adrenocortical deficiency states. Their synthetic analogs are primarily > used for their potent anti-inflammatory effects in disorders of many organ > systems. > ***************** > > What did taking hydrocortisone do to you that you could not tolerate it? > > Not allergic to yellow die #2 are you (in some food products and aspirin, I > may be wrong about the number.) > > I could not tolerate Prednisone, as I tried it because it's much cheaper. > At the time, I didn't know hydrocortisone was a bio-identical hormone. > > I took Pred for a few days, and had to switch back and recover, which took a > couple weeks. It's not nearly identical. > > Maybe there's a reason it works better for you. Maybe it's causing part of > the problems as Prednisone can make you moody and mean. > > Also, not unusual for the hypothyroid to want to cry. I remember those > days, and did not enjoy them. > > Cortisol does keep you awake, and Medrol would have long lasting effect. > Melatonin is helpful when cortisol is a bit high. > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > View Athlete's Collections with Live Search > http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=hmemailtaglinenov06 & FORM=MGAC01 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I could not take any armour. I found out later that I started the amour before the cortef. I am on levothyroxine 75 mcg. Went to 100mcg. I was told the 75 was nothing for us. This is so complicated. How do I change mid stream. I have not gotten any better since March of 2006. > > >From: " mem_mem_me " <maryellenmu@...> > > >It is cortisol, just a little stronger. > > No, it is not cortisol. It is a synthetic analog - > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/analog > 1. Chemistry. one of a group of chemical compounds similar in structure but > different in respect to elemental composition. > 2. Chemistry A structural derivative of a parent compound that often > differs from it by a single element. > ************** > > They make analogs because they make more money by patenting drugs. This is > from Medrol information, which means it's not controversial, it's what the > company would say. Note, Medrol and the analogs are generally not used for > adrenal insufficiency - > > http://rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methprd_cp.htm > Naturally occurring glucocorticoids (hydrocortisone and cortisone), which > also have salt-retaining properties, are used as replacement therapy in > adrenocortical deficiency states. Their synthetic analogs are primarily > used for their potent anti-inflammatory effects in disorders of many organ > systems. > ***************** > > What did taking hydrocortisone do to you that you could not tolerate it? > > Not allergic to yellow die #2 are you (in some food products and aspirin, I > may be wrong about the number.) > > I could not tolerate Prednisone, as I tried it because it's much cheaper. > At the time, I didn't know hydrocortisone was a bio-identical hormone. > > I took Pred for a few days, and had to switch back and recover, which took a > couple weeks. It's not nearly identical. > > Maybe there's a reason it works better for you. Maybe it's causing part of > the problems as Prednisone can make you moody and mean. > > Also, not unusual for the hypothyroid to want to cry. I remember those > days, and did not enjoy them. > > Cortisol does keep you awake, and Medrol would have long lasting effect. > Melatonin is helpful when cortisol is a bit high. > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > View Athlete's Collections with Live Search > http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=hmemailtaglinenov06 & FORM=MGAC01 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 "crying all the time is adrenal insufficiency; so is emotional instability. I was a TOTAL WRECK before I got on Cortef. Now I am much more balanced and functional. I'm not sure about your hypo/hyper stuff, except to say that I know that HypoT can often cause hyper-like behaviors. Dr. Arem's book "the thyroid solution" is very good about all this stuff. Diagnosed with hashimoto> > > I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies are> normal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks maybe> I never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point and> time. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. I was told I had> adrenal fatige and am on medorl because could not tolerate the HC. > Could not tolerate the amour. Now he has me on 75 mcg of> levothyroxine and feel like I am going to die. But felt this way on> the armour too. Tried to take irodol and that made me even more> crazy and fatiqued. He said it could do that in the beginning. He> also started 2.5mcg of compounded T3 timed released 2x a day. Why> will nothing work for me. What is this crazy disease that none of the> doctors know how to deal with. How often should I raise the> levothyroxine. It took me about a monthe to get to 75mcg. I took it> slowly. How often can I raise it. I don't think he will go any higher> on it.> > Free T3 271 (230-420)> Free T4 is 1.2 (.8- 1.8)> > What should my levels get too. When I was taking the armour at 3 /14> my T-3 went way over and they backed off and I was sick as a dog. But> I am sick as a dog with these levels too. Dose anybody experience> severe dry heaving and vomiting with hashi/s> > Ellne> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Do you remember having problems with eating. I am just gaging on food. Nothing is pleasing. It all just makes me sick. I have lost 10 lbs since all this started. I cannot seem to get any weight back on. Now I canot seem to eat and have no interest in it. Has anyone experiened thsi. Thanks Ellen > > > > I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies are > > normal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks > maybe > > I never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point and > > time. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Do you remember having problems with eating. I am just gaging on food. Nothing is pleasing. It all just makes me sick. I have lost 10 lbs since all this started. I cannot seem to get any weight back on. Now I canot seem to eat and have no interest in it. Has anyone experiened thsi. Thanks Ellen > > > > I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies are > > normal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks > maybe > > I never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point and > > time. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 >From: " mem_mem_me " <maryellenmu@...> >Do you remember having problems with eating. I am just gaging on >food. Nothing is pleasing. It all just makes me sick. I have lost >10 lbs since all this started. I cannot seem to get any weight back >on. Now I canot seem to eat and have no interest in it. Has anyone >experiened thsi. Lack of appetite common with low adrenal function. Medrol = poor substitute for hydrocortisone, particularly if you need its salt retaining properties. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atd\ mt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.co\ m/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 >From: " mem_mem_me " <maryellenmu@...> >How do I wean myself off of medrol. How long should I take and how do >I lowere the dose. from 6mg. What if I cannot get off of it. >Can I add cortef while I am lowering it. Don't know what to do or >how. My doc says one mg every 2 weeks but he is not replacing it with >anything. If he knows you have adrenal insufficiency, why would he want you to wean off? I think you should be on Cortef, but if it makes you vomit maybe you are allergic and I'm not sure what the alternative is. Maybe generic hydrocortisone doesn't have the substance that bothers you. I take the generic because it's cheaper, and I can't tell the difference. I wish I had a better answer. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atd\ mt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.co\ m/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 yea, i knew all that...but I'm always a tad sceptical when a medical study/article indicates thyroid function is normal...because I've known a lot of clearly hypothyroid folks with normal thyroid function per their docs. cindi > > >From: " cindi22595 " <cindi22595@...> > > >ya suppose they mean " TSH normal " for " thyroid function to return? > >cindi > > I suppose it means that not everyone is hypothyroid today will be > hypothyroid next year. > > Sometimes it's only transient, the same with Hashimoto's. > > Sometimes it's dietary. > > Sometimes it's exposure to toxins. > > Sometimes it's stress. > > Sometimes it's unhappy circumstances. The emotional state does affect the > physical. > > > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends > list. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/? href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx? wx_action=create & wx_url=/friends.aspx & mk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 yes, weight loss is common with adrenal insufficiency. i lost 15 or so pounds before starting HC...have gained a few pounds back...but it took a few months...i guess it takes a little while to stablize. it's weird that you're taking 30 mg. equivalent of HC...and still having so many AI symptoms...why didn't the Cortef agree with you? cindi > > Do you remember having problems with eating. I am just gaging on > food. Nothing is pleasing. It all just makes me sick. I have lost > 10 lbs since all this started. I cannot seem to get any weight back > on. Now I canot seem to eat and have no interest in it. Has anyone > experiened thsi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 But I am on medrol (6mg) so why am I still feeling this way. > > > > What is this " medorl " you say for adrenals instead of Cortef? Do > you mean prednisolone, if so, what's your dose and how often and how > much do you take? You need good adrenal support in order to be able > to tolerate the thyroid hormone if you have adrenal fatigue. Also, > besides your antibodies showing up at some point, do you have > HYPOTHYROIDISM symptoms? Do you also have adrenal fatigue symptoms, > e.g. difficulty coping with stress, fatigue, hypoglycemic stuff, > circadian rhythm disturbed, etc.? What are all your symptoms in general? > > > > > > Diagnosed with hashimoto > > > > > > I was diagnosed with hashimoto's and now my thyroid antibodies are > > normal and I was diagnosed in March of 06, and the doctor thinks maybe > > I never had it. Can you antibodies go to normal at some point and > > time. This seems crazy. I am crazy right now. I was told I had > > adrenal fatige and am on medorl because could not tolerate the HC. > > Could not tolerate the amour. Now he has me on 75 mcg of > > levothyroxine and feel like I am going to die. But felt this way on > > the armour too. Tried to take irodol and that made me even more > > crazy and fatiqued. He said it could do that in the beginning. He > > also started 2.5mcg of compounded T3 timed released 2x a day. Why > > will nothing work for me. What is this crazy disease that none of the > > doctors know how to deal with. How often should I raise the > > levothyroxine. It took me about a monthe to get to 75mcg. I took it > > slowly. How often can I raise it. I don't think he will go any higher > > on it. > > > > Free T3 271 (230-420) > > Free T4 is 1.2 (.8- 1.8) > > > > What should my levels get too. When I was taking the armour at 3 /14 > > my T-3 went way over and they backed off and I was sick as a dog. But > > I am sick as a dog with these levels too. Dose anybody experience > > severe dry heaving and vomiting with hashi/s > > > > Ellne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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