Re: Constipation and high dose iodoral

[Guest guest]

I took 50mg for months and 100mg for 6 weeks and if anything the 100mg

irritated the bowels a bit and caused looser stools.

--- Lynn <lyn122@...> wrote:

> I'm curious who here is using high doses of iodoral (like 50mgs or so)

> and continuing to experience constipation issues?

>

> Dr. Flechas says he doesn't hear this very often and when he does Mag.

> takes care of it. I'm wondering if it's more a matter of his patients

> not connecting the dots and reporting back to him this problem.

>

> On 50mgs of iodoral I continue to struggle with it. My 80 year old

> mother is also having this problem and can't deal with it anymore so

> she dropped her high dose down quite a bit. Also on the amazon breast

> cancer list one person who had loose bowels mentioned quite happily

> that problem went away on 50mgs of iodoral. This stuff appears to do

> something to the lower bowels. Flechas and Abrahams both say it's not

> destroying gut bacteria. Obviously though something is going on in the

> lower bowels!

>

> I would like to report to Flechas that this appears to be a problem if

> others are having it so that's why I'm asking.

>

> (oh...and I've tried using all other recommened approaches ...upped

> Mg, vit C, water, fiber, good WAPF diet, etc.

> I'm currently switching to lugol drops to see what happens.)

>

> Thanks

> Lynn

>

>

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[Guest guest]

On 50 mg Iodoral, I tended to be constipated.

On 100 mg Iodoral, I had diarrhea.

Zoe

Constipation and high dose iodoral

I'm curious who here is using high doses of iodoral (like 50mgs or so)and continuing to experience constipation issues?

[Guest guest]

I am having issues with being more constipated on 75 mgs than 50 mgs.

Constipation and high dose iodoral

I'm curious who here is using high doses of iodoral (like 50mgs or so)and continuing to experience constipation issues?

[Guest guest]

Have there been pre-Iodoral and current thyroid tests

of these persons taking high Iodoral and having constipation

issues? I wonder if the system is paring back thyroid

levels to protect itself, resulting in constipation which is

a hypothyroid symptom.

Random thought - I also wonder what high Iodoral does

to SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin), growth hormone,

or any of the neurotransmitters, if anything.

That may influence constipation as well

if SHBG went higher and/or growth hormone went lower.

Carol

willis_protocols

New article " Sinus Infections " in my Files. Not a discussion grp.

>

> I'm curious who here is using high doses

> of iodoral (like 50mgs or so)

> and continuing to experience constipation issues?

>

> Dr. Flechas says he doesn't hear this very

> often and when he does Mag.

> takes care of it. I'm wondering if it's

> more a matter of his patients

> not connecting the dots and reporting back

> to him this problem.

>

> On 50mgs of iodoral I continue to struggle

> with it. My 80 year old

> mother is also having this problem and can't

> deal with it anymore so

> she dropped her high dose down quite a bit.

> Also on the amazon breast

> cancer list one person who had loose bowels

> mentioned quite happily

> that problem went away on 50mgs of iodoral.

> This stuff appears to do

> something to the lower bowels. Flechas

> and Abrahams both say it's not

> destroying gut bacteria. Obviously though

> something is going on in the

> lower bowels!

>

> I would like to report to Flechas

> that this appears to be a problem if

> others are having it so that's why I'm asking.

>

> (oh...and I've tried using all other recommened approaches ...upped

> Mg, vit C, water, fiber, good WAPF diet, etc.

> I'm currently switching to lugol drops to see what happens.)

>

> Thanks

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone. I'm new to the group and Iodine and having great results

so far. As far as constipation it was bad on 50 Mg of Iodoral so I've

cut down to 25 and also drinking a natural tea occasionally called

Smooth Move which helps tremendously to get you moving. It was so bad

that I had a pain in my lower side for 2 weeks before I realized it

was the Iodine causing it. I've had chronic bowel issues since the

early 1990's when the docs had me on 800 Mg of Ibuprofen a day for

lower back pain. It took me a year to discover that it was the

Ibuprofen that was causing me to cramp up every time I ate. Can't

believe it's sold over the counter now. Also, it might be helpful to

know that I'm also hypothyroid. Even on 25 Mgs I'm still constipated

but the concrete has passed!!

Ginger Haskins

>

> I'm curious who here is using high doses of iodoral (like 50mgs or so)

> and continuing to experience constipation issues?

>

> Dr. Flechas says he doesn't hear this very often and when he does Mag.

> takes care of it. I'm wondering if it's more a matter of his patients

> not connecting the dots and reporting back to him this problem.

>

> On 50mgs of iodoral I continue to struggle with it. My 80 year old

> mother is also having this problem and can't deal with it anymore so

> she dropped her high dose down quite a bit. Also on the amazon breast

> cancer list one person who had loose bowels mentioned quite happily

> that problem went away on 50mgs of iodoral. This stuff appears to do

> something to the lower bowels. Flechas and Abrahams both say it's not

> destroying gut bacteria. Obviously though something is going on in the

> lower bowels!

>

> I would like to report to Flechas that this appears to be a problem if

> others are having it so that's why I'm asking.

>

> (oh...and I've tried using all other recommened approaches ...upped

> Mg, vit C, water, fiber, good WAPF diet, etc.

> I'm currently switching to lugol drops to see what happens.)

>

> Thanks

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

I am doing fine on 50mg Iodoral for almost a year now. No constipation.

Gracia

I'm curious who here is using high doses of iodoral (like 50mgs or so)and continuing to experience constipation issues?Dr. Flechas says he doesn't hear this very often and when he does Mag.takes care of it. I'm wondering if it's more a matter of his patientsnot connecting the dots and reporting back to him this problem. On 50mgs of iodoral I continue to struggle with it. My 80 year oldmother is also having this problem and can't deal with it anymore soshe dropped her high dose down quite a bit. Also on the amazon breastcancer list one person who had loose bowels mentioned quite happilythat problem went away on 50mgs of iodoral. This stuff appears to dosomething to the lower bowels. Flechas and Abrahams both say it's notdestroying gut bacteria. Obviously though something is going on in thelower bowels!I would like to report to Flechas that this appears to be a problem ifothers are having it so that's why I'm asking.(oh...and I've tried using all other recommened approaches ...uppedMg, vit C, water, fiber, good WAPF diet, etc.I'm currently switching to lugol drops to see what happens.)Thanks Lynn

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[Guest guest]

Not to say it's so, but constipation is also a hypo symptom. Probably not

relevant... just a thought.

Amy

ladybugsandbees wrote:

I am having issues with being more constipated

on 75 mgs than 50 mgs.

[Guest guest]

Pardon my naive comment... If iodine influences sex hormones, this could

be a part of why it helps fibroids & other conditions.

Amy

cbwillis9 wrote:

Random thought - I also wonder what high Iodoral does

to SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin), growth hormone,

or any of the neurotransmitters, if anything.

That may influence constipation as well

if SHBG went higher and/or growth hormone went lower.

[Guest guest]

I know that - I have been there. I am pretty sure that is not my issue. My Free's are over the top of the range. It may be a cortisol issue which is why I have been taking Cortef.

Re: Constipation and high dose iodoral

Not to say it's so, but constipation is also a hypo symptom. Probably not relevant... just a thought. Amyladybugsandbees wrote:

I am having issues with being more constipated on 75 mgs than 50 mgs.

[Guest guest]

>> I'm curious who here is using high doses> of iodoral (like 50mgs or so)> and continuing to experience constipation issues?> >

Hi Lynn,

I've just finished my second week at 50 mgs and there's definitely a problem with constipation. I'm working on adding in the mag w/o getting diarrhea, no easy feat, and I'm planning on increasing Armour, to see if that helps! I take lots of vitamin c, good wapf diet, etc.

Thanks,

Dahlia

[Guest guest]

> I've just finished my second week at 50 mgs and there's definitely a> problem with constipation. I'm working on adding in the mag w/o getting> diarrhea, no easy feat, -------> Yes exactly ....getting the dose of Mag correct is no easy feat!I'm wondering what's going on down there. Makes me think gut bacteria are very involved especially since some of us with loose bowels are now having success with more normal bowels. Prehaps it lowers the offending gut bacteria count?Abrahams says the iodine all passes out via the kidneys but I really wonder if that's true and some isn't making it's way out the bowels. I think in his reply to Gaby he says this was tested and none does but in cows it sure does.I'm beginning to think that loading with iodoral for conditions like fibrocystic breasts, cancer etc is the way to go and just live with the constipation. Then once loaded move to a more food based method of getting iodine if that's possible. Like cooking with seaweeds and high quality kelp supplemented animal sources like eggs, butter and dairy.I'm about to switch my iodine intake to only lugols in apple cider vinegar like Jarvis recommends. I can't control the total intake as well this way but we'll see how the constipation issue goes.Lynn

[Guest guest]

I have been on 50mgs Iodoral since October and have had absolutely no problems with constipation. Of course I am also on 3000mg of vitamin C and 100mgs mag (along with many other supplements.) Can't fathom why the iodine supplementation might be doing this to some people ..? ~GloLynn <lyn122@...> wrote: I'm curious who here is using high doses of iodoral (like 50mgs or so)and continuing to experience constipation

issues?On 50mgs of iodoral I continue to struggle with it. My 80 year oldmother is also having this problem and can't deal with it anymore soshe dropped her high dose down quite a bit. Also on the amazon breastcancer list one person who had loose bowels mentioned quite happilythat problem went away on 50mgs of iodoral. This stuff appears to dosomething to the lower bowels. Flechas and Abrahams both say it's notdestroying gut bacteria. Obviously though something is going on in thelower bowels!Thanks Lynn

[Guest guest]

The last time this topic came up I recall someone paraphrasing an

iodine doc: iodine causes more water to get into the cells, so

constipation may be a problem of too little water left over for

digestion. I know a number of people did not find additional water

helped them. When I tried A LOT of water, I did find it helped. (BTW,

I wasn't on Iodoral but on Iosol.)

It is interesting to me how many people struggled with constipation

on iodine. My new find is Colonix fiber - it works better for me than

any other product I've tried. Expensive though.

Best,

Sharon

> > I've just finished my second week at 50 mgs and there's

definitely a

> > problem with constipation. I'm working on adding in the mag w/o

> getting

> > diarrhea, no easy feat,

>

>

> -------> Yes exactly ....getting the dose of Mag correct is no easy

> feat!

>

> I'm wondering what's going on down there. Makes me think gut

bacteria

> are very involved especially since some of us with loose bowels are

now

> having success with more normal bowels. Prehaps it lowers the

offending

> gut bacteria count?

>

> Abrahams says the iodine all passes out via the kidneys but I really

> wonder if that's true and some isn't making it's way out the

bowels. I

> think in his reply to Gaby he says this was tested and none does

but in

> cows it sure does.

>

> I'm beginning to think that loading with iodoral for conditions like

> fibrocystic breasts, cancer etc is the way to go and just live with

the

> constipation. Then once loaded move to a more food based method of

> getting iodine if that's possible. Like cooking with seaweeds and

high

> quality kelp supplemented animal sources like eggs, butter and

dairy.

>

> I'm about to switch my iodine intake to only lugols in apple cider

> vinegar like Jarvis recommends. I can't control the total intake as

well

> this way but we'll see how the constipation issue goes.

>

>

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

I forgot to mention that part of Dr. Brownstein's protocol for me is to drink (at least) 2 liters of water daily. While I haven't been as religious about this as I should be, I'm sure it must be helping .. ~Glosharflin <sharflin@...> wrote: The last time this topic came up I recall someone paraphrasing an iodine doc: iodine causes more water to get into the cells, so constipation may be a problem of too little water left over for digestion. I know a number of

people did not find additional water helped them. When I tried A LOT of water, I did find it helped. (BTW, I wasn't on Iodoral but on Iosol.)It is interesting to me how many people struggled with constipation on iodine. My new find is Colonix fiber - it works better for me than any other product I've tried. Expensive though. Best,Sharon> > I've just finished my second week at 50 mgs and there's definitely a> > problem with constipation. I'm working on adding in the mag w/o> getting> > diarrhea, no easy feat,> > > -------> Yes exactly ....getting the dose of Mag correct is no easy> feat!> > I'm wondering what's going on down there. Makes me think gut bacteria> are very involved especially since some of us with loose bowels are now> having success with more normal bowels. Prehaps it lowers the offending> gut bacteria

count?> > Abrahams says the iodine all passes out via the kidneys but I really> wonder if that's true and some isn't making it's way out the bowels. I> think in his reply to Gaby he says this was tested and none does but in> cows it sure does.> > I'm beginning to think that loading with iodoral for conditions like> fibrocystic breasts, cancer etc is the way to go and just live with the> constipation. Then once loaded move to a more food based method of> getting iodine if that's possible. Like cooking with seaweeds and high> quality kelp supplemented animal sources like eggs, butter and dairy.> > I'm about to switch my iodine intake to only lugols in apple cider> vinegar like Jarvis recommends. I can't control the total intake as well> this way but we'll see how the constipation issue goes.> > >

Lynn>

[Guest guest]

Me too - I drink (or am supposed to) 1/2 my body weight in oz. Lately I haven't. Hmmm....maybe that is what is wrong as I stopped drinking my water around the time I started the higher dose in Iodoral.

Steph

Re: Re: Constipation and high dose iodoral

I forgot to mention that part of Dr. Brownstein's protocol for me is to drink (at least) 2 liters of water daily. While I haven't been as religious about this as I should be, I'm sure it must be helping ..

~Glosharflin <sharflincomcast (DOT) net> wrote:

The last time this topic came up I recall someone paraphrasing an iodine doc: iodine causes more water to get into the cells, so constipation may be a problem of too little water left over for digestion. I know a number of people did not find additional water helped them. When I tried A LOT of water, I did find it helped. (BTW, I wasn't on Iodoral but on Iosol.)It is interesting to me how many people struggled with constipation on iodine. My new find is Colonix fiber - it works better for me than any other product I've tried. Expensive though. Best,Sharon> > I've just finished my second week at 50 mgs and there's definitely a> > problem with constipation. I'm working on adding in the mag w/o> getting> > diarrhea, no easy feat,> > > -------> Yes exactly ....getting the dose of Mag correct is no easy> feat!> > I'm wondering what's going on down there. Makes me think gut bacteria> are very involved especially since some of us with loose bowels are now> having success with more normal bowels. Prehaps it lowers the offending> gut bacteria count?> > Abrahams says the iodine all passes out via the kidneys but I really> wonder if that's true and some isn't making it's way out the bowels. I> think in his reply to Gaby he says this was tested and none does but in> cows it sure does.> > I'm beginning to think that loading with iodoral for conditions like> fibrocystic breasts, cancer etc is the way to go and just live with the> constipation. Then once loaded move to a more food based method of> getting iodine if that's possible. Like cooking with seaweeds and high> quality kelp supplemented animal sources like eggs, butter and dairy.> > I'm about to switch my iodine intake to only lugols in apple cider> vinegar like Jarvis recommends. I can't control the total intake as well> this way but we'll see how the constipation issue goes.> > > Lynn>

[Guest guest]

I found the magnesium thing a big problem too. I was on 50 mg iodorol for

about 3 weeks and felt horrible. It just got progressively worse. I

wasn't constipated but I had terribly dry skin, painful, cracked and

bleeding to the point I was getting blood on everything. I was also

horribly tired, spacey. I satrted taking magnesiumm glyconate for the dry

skin but the amount I needed (about 1000mg) to make a dent in the skin

problem gave me terrible diarhea. Even if I broke up the 1000mg

throughout the day. It was really weird. I could almost watch my skin

getting more cracked and dry about 2 hours after taking iodoral. Then

when I took enough magnesium I could almost watch the skin healing up.

That is how fast it would happen. But I just felt terrible the

whole time and it was getting worse not better so I finally decided to

give myself a break and only took 1 yesterday. I will start taking 2

again for a while. I felt pretty good at that dose.

Irene

At 06:00 AM 1/4/2007, you wrote:

> I've just finished my

second week at 50 mgs and there's definitely a

> problem with constipation. I'm working on adding in the mag w/o

getting

> diarrhea, no easy feat,

------->

Yes exactly ....getting the dose of Mag correct is no easy feat!

I'm wondering what's going on down there. Makes me think gut bacteria are very involved especially since some of us with loose bowels are now having success with more normal bowels. Prehaps it lowers the offending gut bacteria count?

Abrahams says the iodine all passes out via the kidneys but I really wonder if that's true and some isn't making it's way out the bowels. I think in his reply to Gaby he says this was tested and none does but in cows it sure does.

I'm beginning to think that loading with iodoral for conditions like fibrocystic breasts, cancer etc is the way to go and just live with the constipation. Then once loaded move to a more food based method of getting iodine if that's possible. Like cooking with seaweeds and high quality kelp supplemented animal sources like eggs, butter and dairy.

I'm about to switch my iodine intake to only lugols in apple cider vinegar like Jarvis recommends. I can't control the total intake as well this way but we'll see how the constipation issue goes.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

do you take thyroid meds too?

Gracia

I found the magnesium thing a big problem too. I was on 50 mg iodorol for about 3 weeks and felt horrible. It just got progressively worse. I wasn't constipated but I had terribly dry skin, painful, cracked and bleeding to the point I was getting blood on everything. I was also horribly tired, spacey. I satrted taking magnesiumm glyconate for the dry skin but the amount I needed (about 1000mg) to make a dent in the skin problem gave me terrible diarhea. Even if I broke up the 1000mg throughout the day. It was really weird. I could almost watch my skin getting more cracked and dry about 2 hours after taking iodoral. Then when I took enough magnesium I could almost watch the skin healing up. That is how fast it would happen. But I just felt terrible the whole time and it was getting worse not better so I finally decided to give myself a break and only took 1 yesterday. I will start taking 2 again for a while. I felt pretty good at that dose.Irene

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[Guest guest]

Could be increased progesterone.

Carol

Apricot85 <apricot85@...> wrote:

>

> Pardon my naive comment... If iodine influences sex hormones, this

could

> be a part of why it helps fibroids & other conditions.

> Amy

>

> cbwillis9 wrote:

>

> >

> > Random thought - I also wonder what high Iodoral does

> > to SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin), growth hormone,

> > or any of the neurotransmitters, if anything.

> > That may influence constipation as well

> > if SHBG went higher and/or growth hormone went lower.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Two other things... in most people a tolerance is built to the increasing

magnesium doses over a week or two and`Natural Calm' is mixed with only hot

water and you should drink it as warm as possible... no mixing with cold water

or juice.

--- Lynn <lyn122@...> wrote:

> > I've just finished my second week at 50 mgs and there's definitely a

> > problem with constipation. I'm working on adding in the mag w/o

> getting

> > diarrhea, no easy feat,

>

>

> -------> Yes exactly ....getting the dose of Mag correct is no easy

> feat!

>

> I'm wondering what's going on down there. Makes me think gut bacteria

> are very involved especially since some of us with loose bowels are now

> having success with more normal bowels. Prehaps it lowers the offending

> gut bacteria count?

>

> Abrahams says the iodine all passes out via the kidneys but I really

> wonder if that's true and some isn't making it's way out the bowels. I

> think in his reply to Gaby he says this was tested and none does but in

> cows it sure does.

>

> I'm beginning to think that loading with iodoral for conditions like

> fibrocystic breasts, cancer etc is the way to go and just live with the

> constipation. Then once loaded move to a more food based method of

> getting iodine if that's possible. Like cooking with seaweeds and high

> quality kelp supplemented animal sources like eggs, butter and dairy.

>

> I'm about to switch my iodine intake to only lugols in apple cider

> vinegar like Jarvis recommends. I can't control the total intake as well

> this way but we'll see how the constipation issue goes.

>

>

> Lynn

>

>

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[Guest guest]

, I take 'Natural Calm' and, after the fizz, I had room temp water and drink. The instructions say nothing about adding ONLY hot water after the fizzing is done. <kennio@...> wrote: Two other things... in most people a tolerance is built to the increasing magnesium doses over a week or two and`Natural Calm' is mixed with only hot water and you should drink it as warm as possible... no mixing with cold water or juice. --- Lynn <lyn122 > wrote: > > I've just finished my second week at 50 mgs and there's definitely a > > problem with constipation. I'm working on adding in the mag w/o > getting > > diarrhea, no easy feat, > __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

The instructions state to mix with 1 oz of boiling water and then add warm or room temperature water after the fizzing.  It doesn't work nearly as well if you use cool or cold water, tried it to see what it would taste like.  Although the taste is fine, it doesn't activate the fizzing and you won't see as much benefit.Linn  On Jan 4, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Pamela wrote:,  I take 'Natural Calm' and, after the fizz, I had room temp water and drink.  The instructions say nothing about adding ONLY hot water after the fizzing is done.. 

[Guest guest]

I went to a lecture that Gillham gave at his store here in Hollywood.

While talking about Natural Calm he said the ideal way to mix and drink the

mixture was by adding boiling water then drinking the mixture as warm as

possible. His recommendation not mine.

The point the acid (the fizz) used to dissolve the magnesium citrate got

neutralized (by the dissolving magnesium itself) was the point the drink was at

it's bio-available best (PH-wise). So drinking it as warm as possible was

recommended. Things like letting it sit before drinking, adding cold water or

the worst... adding acidic juices all changed its absorbability, either

slightly or by a huge margin.

--- Pamela <calblonde1@...> wrote:

> , I take 'Natural Calm' and, after the fizz, I had room temp water and

> drink. The instructions say nothing about adding ONLY hot water after the

> fizzing is done.

>

> <kennio@...> wrote:

> Two other things... in most people a tolerance is built to the

> increasing

> magnesium doses over a week or two and`Natural Calm' is mixed with only hot

> water and you should drink it as warm as possible... no mixing with cold

> water

> or juice.

>

> --- Lynn <lyn122@...> wrote:

>

> > > I've just finished my second week at 50 mgs and there's definitely a

> > > problem with constipation. I'm working on adding in the mag w/o

> > getting

> > > diarrhea, no easy feat,

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

---------Lynn writes:--------I'm beginning to think that loading with iodoral for conditions likefibrocystic breasts, cancer etc is the way to go and just live with theconstipation.

Hi Lynn,

Me too. Although magnesium has worked for me in the past, botoh I don't want to create imbalances with it.

Not so sure about food based iodine, since that's harder to measure and test. I've been loading my soil with kelp, but how do I test for the presence of iodine in the soil and in the veggies? Also, how would you know you were getting iodine in your butter and eggs?

Dahlia