RE: Fw: Can you help please (Inventors of the TSH test)

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I think you are a woman on a mission Shiela... good for u, never give up:

)

Ah well, if he doesn't know, the woman I emailed probably won't know

either. Hope she does though, I would be interested now too.

God bless

Dawn

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Hi Sheila,

They just decided to do it

that way! And we have been suffering all over the world ofr years as a result-

no wonder no one wants to take the blame!!

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Fw: Can you help please (Inventors of the TSH test)

HI Everybody

Seems we are wasting our time in

looking for information that doesn't really exist - at least, not in any

research, studies, papers etc. However, this will give me something to get my

teeth into I think.

luv - Sheila

Hi

Sheila

The

reason you are having trouble finding articles is --there are none of

significance.

Nor was

there ever a leader of the concept of switching from clinical diagnosis

completely to laboratory diagnosis.

It was

done by consensus of endocrinologists in 1975. There were no studies on this

switch, before or after.

Sorry to

be discouraging Sheila but it may save you some time.

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Oh Just found it in the article I just linked to in my previous mail! It looks like it's only just been posted, it's karma!

"The consensus of thyroidologists decided in 1973 that the TSH was the blood test they had been looking for all through the years. This was about two years after I started practice. Having been taught how to diagnose hypothyroid conditions clinically I was in a position to watch to see what the relation of the TSH was to the onset of hypothyroidism. What I found was many people would develop classic signs and symptoms of hypothyroidism but the TSH was ever so slow to become abnormal, rise and confirm the clinical diagnosis. Sometimes it never did. Finally I began treat patients with thyroid in the normal manner I was taught. I could not see why I had to wait for the TSH to rise for me to be able to treat them."

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/david-derry.htm

Fw: Can you help please (Inventors of the TSH test)

HI Everybody

Seems we are wasting our time in looking for information that doesn't really exist - at least, not in any research, studies, papers etc. However, this will give me something to get my teeth into I think.

luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila

The reason you are having trouble finding articles is --there are none of significance.

Nor was there ever a leader of the concept of switching from clinical diagnosis completely to laboratory diagnosis.

It was done by consensus of endocrinologists in 1975. There were no studies on this switch, before or after.

Sorry to be discouraging Sheila but it may save you some time.

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If this is FACT , then we have to get this FACT out to all the endocrinologists, GP's etc - and perhaps the BTA should know that we now know - but I still need some evidence.

luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila,

They just decided to do it that way! And we have been suffering all over the world ofr years as a result- no wonder no one wants to take the blame!!

Subject: Fw: Can you help please (Inventors of the TSH test)

HI Everybody

Seems we are wasting our time in looking for information that doesn't really exist - at least, not in any research, studies, papers etc. However, this will give me something to get my teeth into I think.

luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila

The reason you are having trouble finding articles is --there are none of significance.

Nor was there ever a leader of the concept of switching from clinical diagnosis completely to laboratory diagnosis.

It was done by consensus of endocrinologists in 1975. There were no studies on this switch, before or after.

Sorry to be discouraging Sheila but it may save you some time.

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That's the article I read which made me decide to write to him . He is the one who told me more or less to stop wasting my time. See his response below.

Luv - Sheila

This guy looks like he might know as he says:"The thyroidologists by consensus have decided that this test is the most useful for following treatment when in fact it is unrelated to how the patient feels. The consequences of this have been horrendous. Six years after their consensus decision Chronic fatigue and Fibromyalgia appeared"http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/david-derry.htm

Hi Sheila

The reason you are having trouble finding articles is --there are none of significance.

Nor was there ever a leader of the concept of switching from clinical diagnosis completely to laboratory diagnosis.

It was done by consensus of endocrinologists in 1975. There were no studies on this switch, before or after.

Sorry to be discouraging Sheila but it may save you some time.

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Frightening isn't it - that all the millions of sufferers throughout the world are having to wait for their TSH to rise appropriately (and it might never will) before medical practitioners will give them a diagnosis and appropriate treatment - and still I need to know who decided to put this into thyroid function test guidelines?

Luv - Sheila

Oh Just found it in the article I just linked to in my previous mail! It looks like it's only just been posted, it's karma!"The consensus of thyroidologists decided in 1973 that the TSH was the blood test they had been looking for all through the years. This was about two years after I started practice. Having been taught how to diagnose hypothyroid conditions clinically I was in a position to watch to see what the relation of the TSH was to the onset of hypothyroidism. What I found was many people would develop classic signs and symptoms of hypothyroidism but the TSH was ever so slow to become abnormal, rise and confirm the clinical diagnosis. Sometimes it never did. Finally I began treat patients with thyroid in the normal manner I was taught. I could not see why I had to wait for the TSH to rise for me to be able to treat them."http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/david-derry.htm

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And Derry was one of those doctors who were witch-hunted like Dr. Skinner.

Lilian

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/david-derry.htm

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I know, and when I wrote to him I wasn't even sure whether he was still alive or not. He responded to me immediately. Which reminds me, I haven't thanked him yet. Woa!

Luv - Sheila

And Derry was one of those doctors who were witch-hunted like Dr. Skinner.

Lilian

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/david-derry.htm

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Can neither Dr Peatfield or Dr Skinner help you?

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> I know, and when I wrote to him I wasn't even sure whether he was

still alive or not. He responded to me immediately. Which reminds

me, I haven't thanked him yet. Woa!

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> Luv - Sheila

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> And Derry was one of those doctors who were witch-hunted

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They must know, they must have ordered them and know when the TSH

started being used.

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> > I know, and when I wrote to him I wasn't even sure whether he

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> still alive or not. He responded to me immediately. Which

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A. Sorry if you'd already posted that Sheila I must have missed it.

Re: Fw: Can you help please (Inventors of the TSH test)

That's the article I read which made me decide to write to him . He is the one who told me more or less to stop wasting my time. See his response below.

Luv - Sheila

This guy looks like he might know as he says:

"The thyroidologists by consensus have decided that this test is the most useful for following treatment when in fact it is unrelated to how the patient feels. The consequences of this have been horrendous. Six years after their consensus decision Chronic fatigue and Fibromyalgia appeared"

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/david-derry.htm

Hi Sheila

The reason you are having trouble finding articles is --there are none of significance.

Nor was there ever a leader of the concept of switching from clinical diagnosis completely to laboratory diagnosis.

It was done by consensus of endocrinologists in 1975. There were no studies on this switch, before or after.

Sorry to be discouraging Sheila but it may save you some time.

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Don't be sorry - just be delighted that great minds think alike *grin*.

Luv - Sheila

A. Sorry if you'd already posted that Sheila I must have missed it.

That's the article I read which made me decide to write to him . He is the one who told me more or less to stop wasting my time. See his response below.

Luv - Sheila

This guy looks like he might know as he says:"The thyroidologists by consensus have decided that this test is the most useful for following treatment when in fact it is unrelated to how the patient feels. The consequences of this have been horrendous. Six years after their consensus decision Chronic fatigue and Fibromyalgia appeared"http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/david-derry.htm

Hi Sheila

The reason you are having trouble finding articles is --there are none of significance.

Nor was there ever a leader of the concept of switching from clinical diagnosis completely to laboratory diagnosis.

It was done by consensus of endocrinologists in 1975. There were no studies on this switch, before or after.

Sorry to be discouraging Sheila but it may save you some time.

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