Re: preventing food poisoning Loading test

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>From: <kennio@...>

>I am just finishing up my month of dosing iodine at 100mg. I took a break

>while traveling.

Nothing wrong with that of course. But, Lugol's Solutiion is an old home

remedy for preventing food poisoning. I'm sure you only travel in the best

places, but when you're not (or if they wind up with bad food anyway)

Lugol's Solution / Iodoral is probably not a bad idea.

If you took a break while travelling, why did you take it to Canada with

you?

http://www.tuberose.com/Thyroid.html

5. Reacts with tyrosine and histidine to inactivate enzymes and denature

proteins.

6. Antiseptic to bacteria, algae, fungi viruses and protozoa.

7. Detoxifies biological toxins food poisoning, snake venoms etc.

8. Anti allergic process. Makes external proteins non-allergic.

9. Anti-autoimmune mechanism by making intracellular proteins spilled into

blood non-allergic.

14. Antiseptic activity in stomach against helicobacter pylori.

Skipper

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Skipper wrote, on the aspects of Iodine:

<<9. Anti-autoimmune mechanism by making intracellular

proteins spilled into

blood non-allergic.>>

Does this mean it would neutralise or kill Hashi's

antibodies?

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>From: JD <ybr1959@...>

><<9. Anti-autoimmune mechanism by making intracellular

>proteins spilled into

>blood non-allergic.>>

>

>

>Does this mean it would neutralise or kill Hashi's

>antibodies?

Maybe. Some of the knowlegeable iodine docs think that one of the causes of

Hashi's in the first place is lack of iodine. I was thinking that Zoe

posted something from Fleshas that said when he monitors antibodies they

usually don't change with iodine supplementation.

Skipper

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kk thanks. I'll see what mine have done when I retest

in a couple of months. Started Lugol's last week.

Other than that no thyroid meds, just Cortef for

adrenals.

--- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

> >From: JD <ybr1959@...>

>

> ><<9. Anti-autoimmune mechanism by making

> intracellular

> >proteins spilled into

> >blood non-allergic.>>

> >

> >

> >Does this mean it would neutralise or kill Hashi's

> >antibodies?

>

> Maybe. Some of the knowlegeable iodine docs think

> that one of the causes of

> Hashi's in the first place is lack of iodine. I was

> thinking that Zoe

> posted something from Fleshas that said when he

> monitors antibodies they

> usually don't change with iodine supplementation.

>

> Skipper

>

>

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My mother had a stroke a day or two before I arrived to visit her in Detroit. I

guess my cortisol

levels went through the roof because I started to have hypo symptoms while there

visiting her in

the hospital and found when stopped all unnecessary supplements (iodine,

betaine, etc) I

stabilized somewhat.

--- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

> >From: <kennio@...>

>

> >I am just finishing up my month of dosing iodine at 100mg. I took a break

> >while traveling.

>

> Nothing wrong with that of course. But, Lugol's Solutiion is an old home

> remedy for preventing food poisoning. I'm sure you only travel in the best

> places, but when you're not (or if they wind up with bad food anyway)

> Lugol's Solution / Iodoral is probably not a bad idea.

>

> If you took a break while travelling, why did you take it to Canada with

> you?

>

> http://www.tuberose.com/Thyroid.html

> 5. Reacts with tyrosine and histidine to inactivate enzymes and denature

> proteins.

>

> 6. Antiseptic to bacteria, algae, fungi viruses and protozoa.

>

> 7. Detoxifies biological toxins food poisoning, snake venoms etc.

>

> 8. Anti allergic process. Makes external proteins non-allergic.

>

> 9. Anti-autoimmune mechanism by making intracellular proteins spilled into

> blood non-allergic.

>

> 14. Antiseptic activity in stomach against helicobacter pylori.

>

> Skipper

>

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Flechas told me I was barking up the wrong tree trying to reverse Hashi's with

iodine. That's

when he suggested the Betaine and phosphaditylcholine to lower the antibodies.

Mine dropped from

96 to 42 and hopefully further next test.

--- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

> >From: JD <ybr1959@...>

>

> ><<9. Anti-autoimmune mechanism by making intracellular

> >proteins spilled into

> >blood non-allergic.>>

> >

> >

> >Does this mean it would neutralise or kill Hashi's

> >antibodies?

>

> Maybe. Some of the knowlegeable iodine docs think that one of the causes of

> Hashi's in the first place is lack of iodine. I was thinking that Zoe

> posted something from Fleshas that said when he monitors antibodies they

> usually don't change with iodine supplementation.

>

> Skipper

>

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WOW. Thanks & congratulations to you!! I can guess why betaine might

help... I know less about phosphatidyl choline... a type of lipid. Do you

know how phosphadtidyl choline might help?

Amy

wrote:

Flechas told me I was barking up the wrong tree trying to reverse Hashi's

with iodine. That's when he suggested the Betaine and phosphaditylcholine

to lower the antibodies. Mine dropped from 96 to 42 and hopefully further

next test.

[Guest guest]

Awesome! That's great news !

How long have you been taking those to see that kind

of drop?

Where do you get your Betaine and phosphaditylcholine?

How much do you take of each and how often?

Why both Betaine and phosphaditylcholine?

Are there any side effects to watch out for with

either of them? Such as, do they have any type of

negative effect on adrenals do you know?

Mine were 179 (range 0-150)

Thanks!

--- <kennio@...> wrote:

> Flechas told me I was barking up the wrong tree

> trying to reverse Hashi's with iodine. That's

> when he suggested the Betaine and

> phosphaditylcholine to lower the antibodies. Mine

> dropped from

> 96 to 42 and hopefully further next test.

>

> > >From: JD <ybr1959@...>

> >

> > ><<9. Anti-autoimmune mechanism by making

> intracellular

> > >proteins spilled into

> > >blood non-allergic.>>

> > >

> > >

> > >Does this mean it would neutralise or kill

> Hashi's

> > >antibodies?

> >

> > Maybe. Some of the knowlegeable iodine docs think

> that one of the causes of

> > Hashi's in the first place is lack of iodine. I

> was thinking that Zoe

> > posted something from Fleshas that said when he

> monitors antibodies they

> > usually don't change with iodine supplementation.

> >

> > Skipper

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[Guest guest]

Sorry to hear about your mother . Huggs

--- <kennio@...> wrote:

> My mother had a stroke a day or two before I arrived

> to visit her in Detroit. I guess my cortisol

> levels went through the roof because I started to

> have hypo symptoms while there visiting her in

> the hospital and found when stopped all unnecessary

> supplements (iodine, betaine, etc) I

> stabilized somewhat.

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[Guest guest]

The Betaine free base and Phosphatidylcholine are from the VRP website. I took

both for almost 3

weeks and saw the drop in that time. Whether it was a fluke or not will be

indictated by my next

test. I am just restarting the regimen so I will let you know the results.

Flechas told me to take 1/2 teaspoon of betaine and 4 Phosphatidylcholine

capsules divided in 2

doses with meals. Not much in the way of side effects since the it is basically

a sweetner

(osmolyte) and a dietary fat you are taking.

--- JD <ybr1959@...> wrote:

> Awesome! That's great news !

>

> How long have you been taking those to see that kind

> of drop?

>

> Where do you get your Betaine and phosphaditylcholine?

>

>

> How much do you take of each and how often?

>

> Why both Betaine and phosphaditylcholine?

>

> Are there any side effects to watch out for with

> either of them? Such as, do they have any type of

> negative effect on adrenals do you know?

>

> Mine were 179 (range 0-150)

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

> --- <kennio@...> wrote:

>

> > Flechas told me I was barking up the wrong tree

> > trying to reverse Hashi's with iodine. That's

> > when he suggested the Betaine and

> > phosphaditylcholine to lower the antibodies. Mine

> > dropped from

> > 96 to 42 and hopefully further next test.

> >

> > > >From: JD <ybr1959@...>

> > >

> > > ><<9. Anti-autoimmune mechanism by making

> > intracellular

> > > >proteins spilled into

> > > >blood non-allergic.>>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Does this mean it would neutralise or kill

> > Hashi's

> > > >antibodies?

> > >

> > > Maybe. Some of the knowlegeable iodine docs think

> > that one of the causes of

> > > Hashi's in the first place is lack of iodine. I

> > was thinking that Zoe

> > > posted something from Fleshas that said when he

> > monitors antibodies they

> > > usually don't change with iodine supplementation.

> > >

> > > Skipper

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the info . Please do keep us

updated on your tests. Glad you're having such great

results so far!

--- <kennio@...> wrote:

> The Betaine free base and Phosphatidylcholine are

> from the VRP website. I took both for almost 3

> weeks and saw the drop in that time. Whether it was

> a fluke or not will be indictated by my next

> test. I am just restarting the regimen so I will

> let you know the results.

>

> Flechas told me to take 1/2 teaspoon of betaine and

> 4 Phosphatidylcholine capsules divided in 2

> doses with meals. Not much in the way of side

> effects since the it is basically a sweetner

> (osmolyte) and a dietary fat you are taking.

>

> --- JD <ybr1959@...> wrote:

>

> > Awesome! That's great news !

> >

> > How long have you been taking those to see that

> kind

> > of drop?

> >

> > Where do you get your Betaine and

> phosphaditylcholine?

> >

> >

> > How much do you take of each and how often?

> >

> > Why both Betaine and phosphaditylcholine?

> >

> > Are there any side effects to watch out for with

> > either of them? Such as, do they have any type of

> > negative effect on adrenals do you know?

> >

> > Mine were 179 (range 0-150)

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- <kennio@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Flechas told me I was barking up the wrong tree

> > > trying to reverse Hashi's with iodine. That's

> > > when he suggested the Betaine and

> > > phosphaditylcholine to lower the antibodies.

> Mine

> > > dropped from

> > > 96 to 42 and hopefully further next test.

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[Guest guest]

Very interesting, ! I look forward to hearing about your next test to see if it maintains.

Very sorry to hear about your mom. Is she doing better now?

Zoe

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From:

The Betaine free base and Phosphatidylcholine are from the VRP website. I took both for almost 3weeks and saw the drop in that time. Whether it was a fluke or not will be indictated by my nexttest. I am just restarting the regimen so I will let you know the results.Flechas told me to take 1/2 teaspoon of betaine and 4 Phosphatidylcholine capsules divided in 2doses with meals. Not much in the way of side effects since the it is basically a sweetner(osmolyte) and a dietary fat you are taking.

[Guest guest]

Betaine is a methyl donor.

http://www.raysahelian.com/methyl.html

The foods richest in phosphatidylcholine, the major delivery form of choline,

are beef liver, egg

yolks and soya. Beef liver, iceberg lettuce, peanut butter, peanuts and

cauliflower are some foods

that contain free choline. Choline is a precursor for phosphatidylcholine,

sphingomyelin,

acetylcholine AND the methyl donor BETAINE. This phosolipid makes up 8 % of of

cell membranes and

is found in great quantity in the thyroid. It has a rejuvenating effect on the

liver also.

http://www.clltopics.org/CellBio/Epigenetics.htm

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=16003455

Just be aware that some think that therapeutic dosing of methyl donors like

betaine may switch off

unintended genes such as tumor suppressor genes at the same time.

--- Apricot85 <apricot85@...> wrote:

> WOW. Thanks & congratulations to you!! I can guess why betaine might

> help... I know less about phosphatidyl choline... a type of lipid. Do

> you know how phosphadtidyl choline might help?

> Amy

>

> wrote:

>

> > Flechas told me I was barking up the wrong tree trying to reverse

> > Hashi's with iodine. That's when he suggested the Betaine and

> > phosphaditylcholine to lower the antibodies. Mine dropped from 96 to

> > 42 and hopefully further next test.

> >

>

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