Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Medusa, there are a number of links to painting in Iodine Basic, FAQs: Links > 01 Iodine Basics > Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) > How can I apply iodine to the skin? What is "painting"? http://tinyurl.com/2uuovn Zoe is there any painting guidelines in the file area?? I've looked but I may be missing it...Can someone post one or send me the info please? thanks medusa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 thanks ! Re: Painting with iodine Medusa, there are a number of links to painting in Iodine Basic, FAQs: Links > 01 Iodine Basics > Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) > How can I apply iodine to the skin? What is "painting"? http://tinyurl.com/2uuovn Zoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Abrahms has disproven this through proper testing although i am sure some gets through the skin. > > thanks ! > Re: Painting with iodine > > > Medusa, there are a number of links to painting in Iodine Basic, FAQs: > > Links > 01 Iodine Basics > Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) > How can I apply iodine to the skin? What is " painting " ? > http://tinyurl.com/2uuovn > > Zoe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 OK so I've read the sites and seen plenty of info but not so much specifics on the amount of "painting". All I saw was the one posting where the mentioned of 3-4 drops was topically applied. Is that the average "painting" amount? medusa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Abraham has not "disproven" iodine absorption through the skin. It is quite clear that iodine gets absorbed through the skin. What is uncertain is how MUCH iodine is absorbed and in what form. Abraham has not tested this, but he did write a brief paper looking at a few of the relevant studies. Everyone seems to agree that at least 12% of the iodine is absorbed. The absorption seems to depend on the amount, whether the skin is broken or intact, where the painting is done, what product is used (ointment seem to facilitate absorption on unbroken skin, probably because it reduces evaporation), etc. We've been collecting a number of relevant articles on iodine4health: http://iodine4health.com/special/physiology/absorption/absorption.htm Zoe ----- Original Message ----- From: hardasnails1973 Abrahms has disproven this through proper testing although i am sure some gets through the skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 It may be just a liability thing with all the govt regulations. The place you purchase it from should have an MSDS sheet on it. That would tell you the ingredients. I remember that there was iodine that as used in fish tanks that was Lugol's that was labeled not for humans but it was actually just plain Lugol's and people used it to supplement. That was before the DEA regulations though. Buist ND HC Painting with Iodine I did 'paint' my breast again this morning. I can't wait until bedtime to see how it looks! ;-) As I mentioned previously, I am only using the Detoxadine, which is VERY weak compared to Lugol's. I'm wondering if it is OK to paint one's body with 'store bought' iodine (I buy it for my sheep at lambing time ~ to disinfect the lamb's cords). Reading the label, I see the product is 2.4% iodine solution and is recommend for topical use on animals only ~ not humans. I'm not worried about the 'not human' part but thought I should check here to see what the verdict was on using this type of Iodine for painting. This would be a good step up from the Detoxadine in which the iodine is measured in micro grams. The Lugol's is just WAY to expesive to use as a frequent pain over a relatively large surface. What are your thoughts? Shepherdess ~ Soapmakerhttp://shepherdsvoice.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 , First, I don't know what product you are looking at but it doesn't sound like what I'd recommend because those iodine topical products have all kinds of other chemicals in them that aren't needed and will be absorbed at least partially by the skin. You could use it briefly but you should move on to Lugol's which only has water added-- it is clean and pure with nothing extraneous. I'm not sure I would support painting with it under your delicate condition. I'm not sure where you got the idea that Lugol's is expensive to paint with. It's not at all expensive if you shop smart. Here is the most reasonable source I've found, and I've bought from this ebay seller many times at this point: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lugols-solution-4-fl-oz-2-2-iodine- /320674963885?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item4aa9b7a1ad (If the link breaks, use ctrl-C to copy into a browser window and delete any extra characters.) It's even less expensive if you make your own, and that same seller has the raw ingredients available. I can provide you with the recipe. -- On 5 Sep 2011 at 17:59, Krohn wrote: > > > > I did 'paint' my breast again this morning. I can't wait until bedtime > to see how it looks! ;-) As I mentioned previously, I am only using > the Detoxadine, which is VERY weak compared to Lugol's. I'm wondering > if it isOK to paint one's body with 'store bought' iodine (I buy it > for my sheep at lambing time ~ to disinfect the lamb's cords). Reading > the label, I see the product is 2.4% iodine solution and is recommend > for topical use on animals only ~ not humans. I'm not worried about > the 'not human' part but thought I should check here to see what the > verdict was on using this type of Iodine for painting. This would be a > good step up from the Detoxadine in which the iodine is measured in > micro grams. The Lugol's is just WAY to expesive to use as a frequent > pain over a relatively large surface. > > What are your thoughts? > > > Shepherdess ~ Soapmaker > http://shepherdsvoice.blogspot.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 ,What brand is it? What does it list as ingredients? I have spent a lot of time searching farm stores while visiting family/friends looking for iodine as it is used for animals. I am curious as to what you have. Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:12 PMiodine Subject: Re: Painting with Iodine It may be just a liability thing with all the govt regulations. The place you purchase it from should have an MSDS sheet on it. That would tell you the ingredients. I remember that there was iodine that as used in fish tanks that was Lugol's that was labeled not for humans but it was actually just plain Lugol's and people used it to supplement. That was before the DEA regulations though. Buist ND HC Painting with Iodine I did 'paint' my breast again this morning. I can't wait until bedtime to see how it looks! ;-)As I mentioned previously, I am only using the Detoxadine, which is VERY weak compared to Lugol's. I'm wondering if it is OK to paint one's body with 'store bought' iodine (I buy it for my sheep at lambing time ~ to disinfect the lamb's cords). Reading the label, I see the product is 2.4% iodine solution and is recommend for topical use on animals only ~ not humans. I'm not worried about the 'not human' part but thought I should check here to see what the verdict was on using this type of Iodine for painting. This would be a good step up from the Detoxadine in which the iodine is measured in micro grams. The Lugol's is just WAY to expesive to use as a frequent pain over a relatively large surface. What are your thoughts? Shepherdess ~ Soapmakerhttp://shepherdsvoice.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 You especially don't want a tincture with alcohol in it.AnneOn Sep 5, 2011, at 6:31 PM, Baker wrote: I think I've already posted to this question but I will reinterate. No, iodine is not iodine. Some formulations have other chemicals in it. The only way to know is if you can see the ingredients list unless it is called Lugol's, which is reliably only water and iodine. Please see my previous response to this subject line. I also gave a link for the information for a less expensive source of Lugol's, along with the raw ingredients. -- On 5 Sep 2011 at 18:37, Krohn wrote: > > > > I'm sure that is why the label says 'not for human use' ~ I buy it in > the horse section at "Farm & Fleet". I guess what I'm asking is > Iodine/Iodine? Does it matter if we buy Lugol's or Walgreen's? If it > says 2% or 7%, does it really matter where it comes from? I think I'm > going to want to try to make my own Iodine if this treatment seems to > make a difference. I am unemployed and paying $10 to $15/oz. is > painful! > > I hope you enjoyed your weekend! > > > Shepherdess ~ Soapmaker > http://shepherdsvoice.blogspot.com > Re: Painting with Iodine > > > It may be just a liability thing with all the govt regulations. The > place you purchase it from should have an MSDS sheet on it. That would > tell you the ingredients. I remember that there was iodine that as > used in fish tanks that was Lugol's that was labeled not for humans > but it was actually just plain Lugol's and people used it to > supplement. That was before the DEA regulations though. > > Buist ND HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Thanks for the feedback and Donna. , I'm sorry if sometimes I miss previous topics. This list gets SO many emails per day that I often don't have time to read them all. The Iodine that I have is a pint spray bottle and it lists the active ingrediant as Iodine (equivalent to 2.4% titratratable iodine)...8.7% V/V *that is exactly as it is written. It is "manufactured for: "Dione Products" of Des Moines, IA I plan on continuing with the Detoxadine until my Lugols arrives. Thank you for that link . I wish he had the larger bottle of 7%. It looks like I'd have to take 6 drops of the 2% to get 12.5mg but only 2 drops of the 7%. When you add in shipping, it's still about $13 for 1oz of the 7% or $14 for the 4 oz of 2% How long does a bottle typically last you if you? Thanks for the info! Shepherdess ~ Soapmakerhttp://shepherdsvoice.blogspot.com RE: Painting with Iodine , What brand is it? What does it list as ingredients? I have spent a lot of time searching farm stores while visiting family/friends looking for iodine as it is used for animals. I am curious as to what you have. Donna in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 You don't want the super high test Lugol's for topical, imo, because of the oxidative quality of iodine you want it to be a bit more emollient (in fact, you're going to want to start using a carrier oil for your painting to avoid a rash or dermatitis). And you want it to spread further and not just daub on in one place, so using more liquid is an advantage. At least that's my experience. (The 7% has less water than 2% does, so you can always just dilute out your 7% drops some to spread easier if you prefer buying the 7%). I looked up how many drops in an ounce, and the most frequent answer was 360. I went and tested it myself (by counting out a smaller amount), and yes, it's about 360 per ounce for a vertical drop from a standard glass dropper identical to the ones that the ebay seller provides with your order. You'll want to get your dose up to 100mg and more because of wanting to clear your system of ca. That would be 40 drops of 2% per day, plus painting. Minimum 50mg. btw, I would like to ask if you would please not use that particular font for your email. The green color is fine. The letters are very difficult to read, though, and I had to work really hard to figure out what that iodine label actually says. It's painful to try to read. Could you please change your email font to the standard Arial or Courier? I understand wanting to be creative, but it makes it hard to interact with you and give you information. Ok, so the label says " 8.7% V/V " It's that 8.7% of something that we don't know what it is, and we don't know what the rest of the ingredients are. It might be just fine, but I haven't been able to find the product online to look at the ingredients list-- it looks like it is possible the Dionne company is no longer in business. Plus veterinary products don't have to list the actual ingredients. best wishes, -- On 5 Sep 2011 at 22:27, Krohn wrote: > > > > Thanks for the feedback and Donna. , I'm sorry if > sometimes I miss previous topics. This list gets SO many emails per > day that I often don't have time to read them all. > > The Iodine that I have is a pint spray bottle and it lists the active > ingrediant as Iodine (equivalent to 2.4% titratratable iodine)...8.7% > V/V *that is exactly as it is written.It is " manufactured for: " Dione > Products " of Des Moines, IA > > I plan on continuing with the Detoxadine until my Lugols arrives. > Thank you for that link . I wish he had the larger bottle of > 7%. It looks like I'd have to take 6 drops of the 2% to get 12.5mg but > only 2 drops of the 7%. When you add in shipping, it's still about $13 > for 1oz of the 7% or $14 for the 4 oz of 2% How long does a bottle > typically last you if you? > > Thanks for the info! > > > Shepherdess ~ Soapmaker > http://shepherdsvoice.blogspot.com > > > RE: Painting with Iodine > > > , > What brand is it? What does it list as ingredients? I have spent a lot > of time searching farm stores while visiting family/friends looking > for iodine as it is used for animals. I am curious as to what you > have. Donna in IL > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3878 - Release Date: > 09/05/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I have a couple of questions about painting with iodine using a carrier oil. What is the ratio of iodine to oil? How does it " dry " as to not make a mess. Thanks! Deidre > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the feedback and Donna. , I'm sorry if > > sometimes I miss previous topics. This list gets SO many emails per > > day that I often don't have time to read them all. > > > > The Iodine that I have is a pint spray bottle and it lists the active > > ingrediant as Iodine (equivalent to 2.4% titratratable iodine)...8.7% > > V/V *that is exactly as it is written.It is " manufactured for: " Dione > > Products " of Des Moines, IA > > > > I plan on continuing with the Detoxadine until my Lugols arrives. > > Thank you for that link . I wish he had the larger bottle of > > 7%. It looks like I'd have to take 6 drops of the 2% to get 12.5mg but > > only 2 drops of the 7%. When you add in shipping, it's still about $13 > > for 1oz of the 7% or $14 for the 4 oz of 2% How long does a bottle > > typically last you if you? > > > > Thanks for the info! > > > > > > Shepherdess ~ Soapmaker > > http://shepherdsvoice.blogspot.com > > > > > > RE: Painting with Iodine > > > > > > , > > What brand is it? What does it list as ingredients? I have spent a lot > > of time searching farm stores while visiting family/friends looking > > for iodine as it is used for animals. I am curious as to what you > > have. Donna in IL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3878 - Release Date: > > 09/05/11 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I wonder if you refer to macerachrome or machirachrome or however it is spelled. The lid had a glass wand attached that was used to apply this and it would make skin red. It came in a little 1 oz bottle and mom would put that on our booboos and then cover with a band-aid. > > > > > > You especially don't want a tincture with alcohol in it. > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Mercurochrome. This antiseptic is part of a family of products made with a base of merbromin, a chemical which must be suspended in an alcohol or water solution before it can be used as an antiseptic. No, it is not the same as iodine! Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of LynSent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:31 AMiodine Subject: Re: Painting with Iodine I wonder if you refer to macerachrome or machirachrome or however it is spelled. The lid had a glass wand attached that was used to apply this and it would make skin red. It came in a little 1 oz bottle and mom would put that on our booboos and then cover with a band-aid.> > >> > > You especially don't want a tincture with alcohol in it.> > > > > > Anne> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 You shouldn't be able to get mercurochrome any more, because it contained mercury & was very toxic.AnneOn Sep 7, 2011, at 6:31 AM, Lyn wrote: I wonder if you refer to macerachrome or machirachrome or however it is spelled. The lid had a glass wand attached that was used to apply this and it would make skin red. It came in a little 1 oz bottle and mom would put that on our booboos and then cover with a band-aid. > > > > > > You especially don't want a tincture with alcohol in it. > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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