Re: Re: Saw Dr. Burrows Today

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I can't understand Dr B wanting you to take your T3 at night - I am concerned that he doesn't know the half life of T3, but surely he does? He is right about taking your thyroxine at night - and I wonder whether he has been on our forum and seen our recommendation, or is he TOO reading the information from the Internet tut tut! Usually, you do take it with your thyroxine, but since it has been found that taking thyroxine at night works better, it would be a very foolish thing to take your T3 at the same time as well. All I can advise is to be assertive Deb. Don't let him beat you down. We have the knowledge here and perhaps some people think we are getting to know just a tad too much - but we have proof that many members are doing better than they were before they joined this forum.

Please don't let him upset you - it is good that you can come and 'blow off' here. One day, you will look back on this time and wonder how you ever got through it.

Luv - Sheila

>Hi Sheila,I hope that his excuse for being arrogant was that he had a bad day, but still no reason to take it out on me.I did tell him that I only read articles from your website, so maybe like you say its because he's feeling over worked with him getting lots of referrals from here.He's not very happy with my GP, as he said that I should have been referred to a specialist from the day I was diagnosed with it,but surely thats for theGPs to be told about surely?I have to wait now for a letter from him after he has read my blood results, with a change in my dosage. He has also told me to start taking my thyroxine at night, and that I should be taking T3 at the same time as the thyroxine and that he has never heard anything like it about taking it at different times of the day,and also that my GP shouldnt have put me on T3 in the 1st place! even though I told him that I felt better within 24 hours on it, so he said he would make a note of that.So now Im thinking if T3 has a half life what is the point in taking it once a day?He has also told me to be prepared for feeling worse again until he sorts my meds out, which Im dreading.I am really upset at the moment, and wish that I was dead, because Im sick of feeling rubbish, and no one listening, and the man that I thought would understand being arrogant with me.I know that these things take time, but I just feel that it was a waste of time yesterday after looking forward to seeing him, then leaving like I had been slapped in the face.Im glad that everyone else has have had a positive meeting with him.If hes the same with me in March then I will look at seeing another consultant.My husband couldnt beleive his attitude, especially with all the good reports about him on here.Deb x> > > I am sorry your appointment didn't go well and I am amazed that you found him "arrogant" Unfortunately, these doctors are right in that we shouldn't believe everything we read on the Internet, but they also know there is some brilliant research there as well. He is correct about Armour in that there have been no studies to show that it is better (or worse) than combination therapy using synthetic T4/T3. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 26/01/2008 15:45>

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Well - now HERE is something to think about. This is a link to telling you about taking your Thyroxine at bedtime, but look what it says about taking T3 - this might be what Dr Burrows is thinking as he is already encouraging his patients to take thyroxine at night. If this is the case, he should be asked to give an explanation to his patients WHY he is recommending they try T3 at night.

http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/a/bedtime.htm

Perhaps we might have to think again - anybody want to give it a good?

luv - Sheila

Hi DebI am so sorry to hear that you had such a disappointing visit with DrBurrows. I too see him and he did say to me not to take a lot ofnotice of things you read on the internet. I think we have to takethese comments on board as he does not know our backgrounds and thatwe are intelligent people who do not believe everything we read. Weare reading to try to get to the bottom of this, find out what iswrong with us, correct it and get our lives back!He has put me on T3 and told me to take it with my T4 which I take atbedtime. I too questioned this but he repeated to take it with myother meds. I like you find it confusing as it does state that it hasa short half life, how can it help us when we are asleep? surely weneed that extra boost during the day. I decided to take mine in themorning to begin with and now I have split it into two doses one at 7am and one at 3pm. The T3 does seem to be working (touch wood).I hope your next visit with him is more successful.Love Lizzie> > I hope that his excuse for being arrogant was that he had a bad day, > but still no reason to take it out on me.> I did tell him that I only read articles from your website, so maybe > like you say its because he's feeling over worked with him getting > lots of referrals from here.> He's not very happy with my GP, as he said that I should have been > referred to a specialist from the day I was diagnosed with it,but > surely thats for theGPs to be told about surely?> I have to wait now for a letter from him after he has read my blood > results, with a change in my dosage. > He has also told me to start taking my thyroxine at night, and that I > should be taking T3 at the same time as the thyroxine and that he has > never heard anything like it about taking it at different times of > the day,and also that my GP shouldnt have put me on T3 in the 1st > place! even though I told him that I felt better within 24 hours on > it, so he said he would make a note of that.> So now Im thinking if T3 has a half life what is the point in taking > it once a day?> He has also told me to be prepared for feeling worse again until he > sorts my meds out, which Im dreading.> I am really upset at the moment, and wish that I was dead, because Im > sick of feeling rubbish, and no one listening, and the man that I > thought would understand being arrogant with me.> I know that these things take time, but I just feel that it was a > waste of time yesterday after looking forward to seeing him, then > leaving like I had been slapped in the face.> Im glad that everyone else has have had a positive meeting with him.> If hes the same with me in March then I will look at seeing another > consultant.> My husband couldnt beleive his attitude, especially with all the good > reports about him on here.> Deb x> > > > > I am sorry your appointment didn't go well and I am amazed that you > found him "arrogant" Unfortunately, these doctors are right in that > we shouldn't believe everything we read on the Internet, but they > also know there is some brilliant research there as well. He is > correct about Armour in that there have been no studies to show that > it is better (or worse) than combination therapy using synthetic > T4/T3. > ----------------------------------------------------------> ------------------> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: > 26/01/2008 15:45> >>

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I know a lady on another group who swear that taking some t3 at bedtime helps you sleep, she actually doses 5 times a day, but of course she is on a large dose I think 150mg. I used to take 4 times a day but as I was sleeping well anyway never tried the bedtime dose. Carolinesheilaturner <sheilaturner@...> wrote: Well - now HERE is something to think about. This is a link to telling you about taking your Thyroxine at bedtime, but look what it says about taking T3 - this

might be what Dr Burrows is thinking as he is already encouraging his patients to take thyroxine at night. If this is the case, he should be asked to give an explanation to his patients WHY he is recommending they try T3 at night. http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/a/bedtime.htm Perhaps we might have to think again - anybody want to give it a good? luv - Sheila .

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Hi Deb,

I take all my T3 once a day otherwise I get 'dips' in energy and

feel sleep all over again. One of those things where we're not all the same.

Personally I wouldn't think that T3 at night is a good idea. I'd think that

you'd wake up after an hour or so and be up all night!

Trouble is when you're not well you are so vunerable to someone being harsh

it's really not fair to take it out on someone who is ill.

---

He has also told me to start taking my thyroxine at night, and that I

should be taking T3 at the same time as the thyroxine and that he has

never heard anything like it about taking it at different times of

the day,and also that my GP shouldnt have put me on T3 in the 1st

place! even though I told him that I felt better within 24 hours on

it, so he said he would make a note of that.

So now Im thinking if T3 has a half life what is the point in taking

it once a day?

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Hi Sheila,

As I’m on a large wack of T3 I’ll give it a go. I’d have

thought It’d keep me up, but as I sleep late go to bed late it might be

interesting to see.

I ‘ll do it when I get

back from my holiday- going for a bit of winter sun- I’ll have a go and

let you all know.. My lovely daughter is house sitting and feeding all the pets

Well - now HERE is something to

think about. This is a link to telling you about taking your Thyroxine at

bedtime, but look what it says about taking T3 - this might be what Dr Burrows

is thinking as he is already encouraging his patients to take thyroxine at

night. If this is the case, he should be asked to give an explanation to his

patients WHY he is recommending they try T3 at night.

http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/a/bedtime.htm

Perhaps we might have to think again

- anybody want to give it a good?

luv - Sheila

Hi Deb

I am so sorry to hear that you had such a disappointing visit with Dr

Burrows. I too see him and he did say to me not to take a lot of

notice of things you read on the internet. I think we have to take

these comments on board as he does not know our backgrounds and that

we are intelligent people who do not believe everything we read. We

are reading to try to get to the bottom of this, find out what is

wrong with us, correct it and get our lives back!

He has put me on T3 and told me to take it with my T4 which I take at

bedtime. I too questioned this but he repeated to take it with my

other meds. I like you find it confusing as it does state that it has

a short half life, how can it help us when we are asleep? surely we

need that extra boost during the day. I decided to take mine in the

morning to begin with and now I have split it into two doses one at 7

am and one at 3pm. The T3 does seem to be working (touch wood).

I hope your next visit with him is more successful.

Love Lizzie

>

> I hope that his excuse for being arrogant was that he had a bad day,

> but still no reason to take it out on me.

> I did tell him that I only read articles from your website, so maybe

> like you say its because he's feeling over worked with him getting

> lots of referrals from here.

> He's not very happy with my GP, as he said that I should have been

> referred to a specialist from the day I was diagnosed with it,but

> surely thats for theGPs to be told about surely?

> I have to wait now for a letter from him after he has read my blood

> results, with a change in my dosage.

> He has also told me to start taking my thyroxine at night, and that I

> should be taking T3 at the same time as the thyroxine and that he has

> never heard anything like it about taking it at different times of

> the day,and also that my GP shouldnt have put me on T3 in the 1st

> place! even though I told him that I felt better within 24 hours on

> it, so he said he would make a note of that.

> So now Im thinking if T3 has a half life what is the point in taking

> it once a day?

> He has also told me to be prepared for feeling worse again until he

> sorts my meds out, which Im dreading.

> I am really upset at the moment, and wish that I was dead, because Im

> sick of feeling rubbish, and no one listening, and the man that I

> thought would understand being arrogant with me.

> I know that these things take time, but I just feel that it was a

> waste of time yesterday after looking forward to seeing him, then

> leaving like I had been slapped in the face.

> Im glad that everyone else has have had a positive meeting with him.

> If hes the same with me in March then I will look at seeing another

> consultant.

> My husband couldnt beleive his attitude, especially with all the good

> reports about him on here.

> Deb x

> > >

> > I am sorry your appointment didn't go well and I am amazed that you

> found him " arrogant " Unfortunately, these doctors are right in

that

> we shouldn't believe everything we read on the Internet, but they

> also know there is some brilliant research there as well. He is

> correct about Armour in that there have been no studies to show that

> it is better (or worse) than combination therapy using synthetic

> T4/T3. > ----------------------------------------------------------

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Deb, now that you have started with a split dose may I suggest you do this for a few more days, as this is also an option you might find you feel better with. Then try the morning for a few days and then the evening. I suggest a few days to give yourself time to see how you feel, but if you immediately feel one option is not for you, then stop that option immediately, and try one of the others.

Meanwhile whichever way you choose you are still getting T3 inside you.

Brain power will start to improve now your thyroid is being sorted .

Lilian

Wish I had the good sense to have thought of that damn brain!

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The beauty of taking T3 (whether morning or night) is that you don't have to wait for hours or days for it to take it effect - it is almost immediate. So you will soon have a result.

luv - Sheila

Why not try and see what suits you best. If T3 at night keeps you awake, then try taking it in the morning. Try for a few days in the evening, then try for a few days in the morning. Then decide for yourself which you prefer and do it.

If you feel better taking it in the morning and if it keeps you awake by taking it at night, then when you next see Dr.Burrows you could just mention to him that it keeps you awake when taking it at night but you feel so much better taking it in the morning. That is, of course, if you do

Lilian

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Hi - it will be interesting to see the results. Where are you going to get your "winter sun"? We havea chance to visit Singapore and I am seriously considering it, but feels it would be too hot and humid for him...and the fact that you have to spend so many hours getting there. Anyway, I would love some winter sun right now, and a good rest.

Lluv - Sheila

Hi Sheila,

As I’m on a large wack of T3 I’ll give it a go. I’d have thought It’d keep me up, but as I sleep late go to bed late it might be interesting to see.

I ‘ll do it when I get back from my holiday- going for a bit of winter sun- I’ll have a go and let you all know.. My lovely daughter is house sitting and feeding all the pets

Well - now HERE is something to think about. This is a link to telling you about taking your Thyroxine at bedtime, but look what it says about taking T3 - this might be what Dr Burrows is thinking as he is already encouraging his patients to take thyroxine at night. If this is the case, he should be asked to give an explanation to his patients WHY he is recommending they try T3 at night.

http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/a/bedtime.htm

Perhaps we might have to think again - anybody want to give it a good?

luv - Sheila

Hi DebI am so sorry to hear that you had such a disappointing visit with DrBurrows. I too see him and he did say to me not to take a lot ofnotice of things you read on the internet. I think we have to takethese comments on board as he does not know our backgrounds and thatwe are intelligent people who do not believe everything we read. Weare reading to try to get to the bottom of this, find out what iswrong with us, correct it and get our lives back!He has put me on T3 and told me to take it with my T4 which I take atbedtime. I too questioned this but he repeated to take it with myother meds. I like you find it confusing as it does state that it hasa short half life, how can it help us when we are asleep? surely weneed that extra boost during the day. I decided to take mine in themorning to begin with and now I have split it into two doses one at 7am and one at 3pm. The T3 does seem to be working (touch wood).I hope your next visit with him is more successful.Love Lizzie> > I hope that his excuse for being arrogant was that he had a bad day, > but still no reason to take it out on me.> I did tell him that I only read articles from your website, so maybe > like you say its because he's feeling over worked with him getting > lots of referrals from here.> He's not very happy with my GP, as he said that I should have been > referred to a specialist from the day I was diagnosed with it,but > surely thats for theGPs to be told about surely?> I have to wait now for a letter from him after he has read my blood > results, with a change in my dosage. > He has also told me to start taking my thyroxine at night, and that I > should be taking T3 at the same time as the thyroxine and that he has > never heard anything like it about taking it at different times of > the day,and also that my GP shouldnt have put me on T3 in the 1st > place! even though I told him that I felt better within 24 hours on > it, so he said he would make a note of that.> So now Im thinking if T3 has a half life what is the point in taking > it once a day?> He has also told me to be prepared for feeling worse again until he > sorts my meds out, which Im dreading.> I am really upset at the moment, and wish that I was dead, because Im > sick of feeling rubbish, and no one listening, and the man that I > thought would understand being arrogant with me.> I know that these things take time, but I just feel that it was a > waste of time yesterday after looking forward to seeing him, then > leaving like I had been slapped in the face.> Im glad that everyone else has have had a positive meeting with him.> If hes the same with me in March then I will look at seeing another > consultant.> My husband couldnt beleive his attitude, especially with all the good > reports about him on here.> Deb x> > > > > I am sorry your appointment didn't go well and I am amazed that you > found him "arrogant" Unfortunately, these doctors are right in that > we shouldn't believe everything we read on the Internet, but they > also know there is some brilliant research there as well. He is > correct about Armour in that there have been no studies to show that > it is better (or worse) than combination therapy using synthetic > T4/T3. > ----------------------------------------------------------> ------------------> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: > 26/01/2008 15:45> >>

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Hi Sheila,

As you may have gathered I’m back now. Lanzarote was lovely- spring

flowers just starting to come out. I would recommend it to anybody- a few miles

of classic playas,but many beaches deserted, but inland a different world of

small fields and vineyards, mini volcanoes which are cinder cones of varicoloured

ash and sandy plains which are true desert. I took a lot of photos, a

real lot! Don’t forget your sketch pads!! You must hire a car.

I fell flat down a couple of

irregular badly lit steps on my first night- stone cold sober too! So that put

paid to any strenuous walking for a few days. The bruises were spectacular- a

real rainbow. I’m fine now except for my big toe- the one that was

operated on last year for bunions (naturally) so I’m having to twiddle it

to ease the stiffness as I’m due to have the other one done in the next

few weeks.

I’m starting tonight with the

night trial. As I take such a large dose I’ll do this by stages, Armour

first- I grain tonight then increasing every 5 days so I’ll report on

this every 5 days unless something dramatic happens.

Hi - it will be interesting to

see the results. Where are you going to get your " winter sun " ? We

havea chance to visit Singapore and I am seriously considering it, but

feels it would be too hot and humid for him...and the fact that you have

to spend so many hours getting there. Anyway, I would love some winter sun

right now, and a good rest.

Lluv - Sheila

Hi

Sheila,

As I’m on a large wack of T3 I’ll give it a go. I’d have

thought It’d keep me up, but as I sleep late go to bed late it might be

interesting to see.

I

‘ll do it when I get back from my holiday- going for a bit of

winter sun- I’ll have a go and let you all know.. My lovely daughter is

house sitting and feeding all the pets

Well - now HERE is something to

think about. This is a link to telling you about taking your Thyroxine at

bedtime, but look what it says about taking T3 - this might be what Dr Burrows

is thinking as he is already encouraging his patients to take thyroxine at

night. If this is the case, he should be asked to give an explanation to his

patients WHY he is recommending they try T3 at night.

http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroiddrugstreatments/a/bedtime.htm

Perhaps we might have to think again

- anybody want to give it a good?

luv - Sheila

Hi Deb

I am so sorry to hear that you had such a disappointing visit with Dr

Burrows. I too see him and he did say to me not to take a lot of

notice of things you read on the internet. I think we have to take

these comments on board as he does not know our backgrounds and that

we are intelligent people who do not believe everything we read. We

are reading to try to get to the bottom of this, find out what is

wrong with us, correct it and get our lives back!

He has put me on T3 and told me to take it with my T4 which I take at

bedtime. I too questioned this but he repeated to take it with my

other meds. I like you find it confusing as it does state that it has

a short half life, how can it help us when we are asleep? surely we

need that extra boost during the day. I decided to take mine in the

morning to begin with and now I have split it into two doses one at 7

am and one at 3pm. The T3 does seem to be working (touch wood).

I hope your next visit with him is more successful.

Love Lizzie

>

> I hope that his excuse for being arrogant was that he had a bad day,

> but still no reason to take it out on me.

> I did tell him that I only read articles from your website, so maybe

> like you say its because he's feeling over worked with him getting

> lots of referrals from here.

> He's not very happy with my GP, as he said that I should have been

> referred to a specialist from the day I was diagnosed with it,but

> surely thats for theGPs to be told about surely?

> I have to wait now for a letter from him after he has read my blood

> results, with a change in my dosage.

> He has also told me to start taking my thyroxine at night, and that I

> should be taking T3 at the same time as the thyroxine and that he has

> never heard anything like it about taking it at different times of

> the day,and also that my GP shouldnt have put me on T3 in the 1st

> place! even though I told him that I felt better within 24 hours on

> it, so he said he would make a note of that.

> So now Im thinking if T3 has a half life what is the point in taking

> it once a day?

> He has also told me to be prepared for feeling worse again until he

> sorts my meds out, which Im dreading.

> I am really upset at the moment, and wish that I was dead, because Im

> sick of feeling rubbish, and no one listening, and the man that I

> thought would understand being arrogant with me.

> I know that these things take time, but I just feel that it was a

> waste of time yesterday after looking forward to seeing him, then

> leaving like I had been slapped in the face.

> Im glad that everyone else has have had a positive meeting with him.

> If hes the same with me in March then I will look at seeing another

> consultant.

> My husband couldnt beleive his attitude, especially with all the good

> reports about him on here.

> Deb x

> > >

> > I am sorry your appointment didn't go well and I am amazed that you

> found him " arrogant " Unfortunately, these doctors are right in

that

> we shouldn't believe everything we read on the Internet, but they

> also know there is some brilliant research there as well. He is

> correct about Armour in that there have been no studies to show that

> it is better (or worse) than combination therapy using synthetic

> T4/T3. > ----------------------------------------------------------

> ------------------

> >

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