Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Hello Fellow Bandsters My Gear: APS 10cc band by Allergan 1.5cc tubing I have 3.5 cc in the band since Tues. Have tolerated liquids just fine but am still having a hard time getting anything else to go. unless it's really mushy. I got cheerios down, wt control oatmeal down. Tuna salad and crackers got stuck. We had stew for dinner, soft meat well chewed and mushy veggies gave me some pangs but eventually seemed to pass. The question is how long should I wait before an unfill. We are at 48hrs now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Are you having any sinus drainage? I had a problem w/ this right after my fill. Thought I needed an unfill. Did protein shakes & liquids mostly until I got over the sinus stuff. Now ... all better. Burson Pampered Chef Independent Consultant http://www.pamperedchef.biz/carrieb ________________________________ From: flukcj <cj.bauman@...> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 8:27:35 PM Subject: unfill Hello Fellow Bandsters My Gear: APS 10cc band by Allergan 1.5cc tubing I have 3.5 cc in the band since Tues. Have tolerated liquids just fine but am still having a hard time getting anything else to go. unless it's really mushy. I got cheerios down, wt control oatmeal down. Tuna salad and crackers got stuck. We had stew for dinner, soft meat well chewed and mushy veggies gave me some pangs but eventually seemed to pass. The question is how long should I wait before an unfill. We are at 48hrs now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Several of those are NOT good things to judge by. Oatmeal is gummy. Tuna salad is gummy and is easy not to chew up all the little pieces. Veges are bad if they're at all stringy. I find it harder to do soft things than hard, as it is so easy to think they are already " soft enough " and not chew them nearly enough. In 48 hours I sure wouldn't change anything. dan Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:27:35 PM, you wrote: > I have 3.5 cc in the band since Tues. Have tolerated liquids just > fine but am still having a hard time getting anything else to go. > unless it's really mushy. I got cheerios down, wt control oatmeal > down. Tuna salad and crackers got stuck. We had stew for dinner, > soft meat well chewed and mushy veggies gave me some pangs but > eventually seemed to pass. The question is how long should I wait > before an unfill. We are at 48hrs now. -- " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 There is stuff about tiis in the files, in the document called " How to help get a good fill " . raised a very good point, this time of year. (Thanks, ) allergies are miserable, and the thick mucous can mess the stoma up badly. It can clog it up entirely. Take an anti-histimine if needed, but they are very dehydrating, so you'll need even more than the usual 80-100 oz a day of fluids. This is what i teach re fills, and my doc agrees : 1. liquids should always go down fine. right after a fill, there might be a slight back up, so we can do only 3-4 sips at a time, then a 5 second pause, before more. gurgling is normal. 2. fluids only for the first 24 hrs 3. then soft food only for 24 hrs. 4, then, on the 3rd day, we should be able to tolerate regular foods, assuming they are pea sized bites and chewed well. As long as you can get plenty of fluids in so you do not get dehydrated - meaning 80-100 oz a day - you can wait a few more days. But no more than 5, imo. If you cannot tolerate solid foods by then, I feel you need a small bit out. There are just too many serious problems with too-tight fills to ignore them. About that " weight control " oatmeal - I hate to tell you that it is only an advertising gimmick. The only thing it has is a bit more calcium, which is now known not to really help weight loss at all. This type of instant oatmeal is pretty junky, sorry. the best oatmeal, imo, is the steel-cut - much more fiber, real oatmeal, and much better for us. Instead of all that sugar in the " weight cntrol stuff " , i use brown sugar " Sugar twin " and it's great. Better still is a fiber and protein cereal like Kashi go lean or Fiber One honey clusters - much more protein, much more fiber. Sandy r > > Hello Fellow Bandsters > > My Gear: > APS 10cc band by Allergan > 1.5cc tubing > > I have 3.5 cc in the band since Tues. Have tolerated liquids just fine but am still having a hard time getting anything else to go. unless it's really mushy. I got cheerios down, wt control oatmeal down. Tuna salad and crackers got stuck. We had stew for dinner, soft meat well chewed and mushy veggies gave me some pangs but eventually seemed to pass. The question is how long should I wait before an unfill. We are at 48hrs now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 It's always good to minimize the pokes, but it should help to know that the port membranes have withstood hundreds of pokes in testing with no ill effects, as long as the port is entered correctly with the special port-access needle called a Huber needle. In an urgent situation, even the special needle is not needed for a few pokes. It's the bad misses that cause problems - going in at the very edge of the membrane rather than the center, or missing the whole port entirely and going thru the tubing. Let us know how you are - Sandy > > > > > > Hello Fellow Bandsters > > > > > > My Gear: > > > APS 10cc band by Allergan > > > 1.5cc tubing > > > > > > I have 3.5 cc in the band since Tues. Have tolerated liquids just fine but am still having a hard time getting anything else to go. unless it's really mushy. I got cheerios down, wt control oatmeal down. Tuna salad and crackers got stuck. We had stew for dinner, soft meat well chewed and mushy veggies gave me some pangs but eventually seemed to pass. The question is how long should I wait before an unfill. We are at 48hrs now. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Seen them played w/them and the balloons After I couldn't get down my beaters and salsa I gave and am now .15-.20 lighter. So far much better actually was able to get in 1/4 of a split ckn breast w/ a few bites of cooked carrot last night had my cheerios and skim this am. That is the only thing I can get down in the mornings. So we'll see how the rest of the day goes. I can still feel the restriction but no discomfort. I'll keep my fingers crossed! Would so love to pass the 40lb mark. Question for the moderators. My BMI was 38 at the start, does it make sense that if you have a lower bmi you don't need as much in your band. Seems likel most people have so much more in their band than I do. After accounting for ther tubing I have less tha 3.5cc in mine. CJ > > > > > > > > Hello Fellow Bandsters > > > > > > > > My Gear: > > > > APS 10cc band by Allergan > > > > 1.5cc tubing > > > > > > > > I have 3.5 cc in the band since Tues. Have tolerated liquids just fine but am still having a hard time getting anything else to go. unless it's really mushy. I got cheerios down, wt control oatmeal down. Tuna salad and crackers got stuck. We had stew for dinner, soft meat well chewed and mushy veggies gave me some pangs but eventually seemed to pass. The question is how long should I wait before an unfill. We are at 48hrs now. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 CJ, I'm really glad you got a small unfill. We should always be able to eat small but nutritious meals -about 1-1.5 cups total. less than this and we cannot meet nutrition needs, and the body is threatened and we do not lose well. plus it is miserable! the band should NEVER cause pain and misery. We should be able to forget it is even there most of the time. Smaller people sometimes need MORE fill than others - but what someone looks like on the outsied doesn't mtter - it is only their stomach size that matters, and we cannot see that. some ver large people have small stomachs and need only a small band. some very small people have larger stomachs and need a largr band. it also doesn't matter a bit how much fill we actually have - or what anyone else has. the only thing that matters is if you have a GOOD fill and can eat wll. the less fill, the better - as lonjg as we are getting some hlp from the band. Cereal is a very good breakfast, but cheerios isn't the best. can you do some real cooked oatmeal ? I love it with brown sugar " Sugar Twin' and a drizzle of the sugar -free maple syrup that is oly 30 calories for 1/4 cup. the steel-cut kind of oatmeal is best, full of fiber and some protein. even better is the kashi go lean crunch, or the new fiber One honey clusters - both have GREAT protein and lots of fiber. many people have trouble getting the 25 mg of fiber we need daily (on average0 and these cereals are a great start. sounds as if you're much better! Sandy pmarterBandsters , " flukcj " <cj.bauman@...> wrote: > > Seen them played w/them and the balloons > After I couldn't get down my beaters and salsa I gave and am now .15-.20 lighter. So far much better actually was able to get in 1/4 of a split ckn breast w/ a few bites of cooked carrot last night had my cheerios and skim this am. That is the only thing I can get down in the mornings. So we'll see how the rest of the day goes. I can still feel the restriction but no discomfort. I'll keep my fingers crossed! Would so love to pass the 40lb mark. Question for the moderators. My BMI was 38 at the start, does it make sense that if you have a lower bmi you don't need as much in your band. Seems likel most people have so much more in their band than I do. After accounting for ther tubing I have less tha 3.5cc in mine. > > CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 K I have some oats, I sweeten w/ splenda and fruit and skim mlk. I'll have to try the other cereals. So here's one, I tried the new TreeTop Trim jce (less cals added fiber blah blah) OMG it has given me the worst belly aches. I sure hope I can eat dinner tonite! I only have about 750 cals in so far today. Wtg for pepcid ac and a little red wine to help I hope! CJ -- In , " moonshadow.sandy " <moonshadow.sandy@...> wrote: > > CJ, I'm really glad you got a small unfill. We should always be able to eat small but nutritious meals -about 1-1.5 cups total. less than this and we cannot meet nutrition needs, and the body is threatened and we do not lose well. plus it is miserable! the band should NEVER cause pain and misery. We should be able to forget it is even there most of the time. > > Smaller people sometimes need MORE fill than others - but what someone looks like on the outsied doesn't mtter - it is only their stomach size that matters, and we cannot see that. some ver large people have small stomachs and need only a small band. some very small people have larger stomachs and need a largr band. > > it also doesn't matter a bit how much fill we actually have - or what anyone else has. the only thing that matters is if you have a GOOD fill and can eat wll. the less fill, the better - as lonjg as we are getting some hlp from the band. > > Cereal is a very good breakfast, but cheerios isn't the best. can you do some real cooked oatmeal ? I love it with brown sugar " Sugar Twin' and a drizzle of the sugar -free maple syrup that is oly 30 calories for 1/4 cup. the steel-cut kind of oatmeal is best, full of fiber and some protein. even better is the kashi go lean crunch, or the new fiber One honey clusters - both have GREAT protein and lots of fiber. many people have trouble getting the 25 mg of fiber we need daily (on average0 and these cereals are a great start. > > sounds as if you're much better! > > Sandy > > pmarterBandsters , " flukcj " <cj.bauman@> wrote: > > > > Seen them played w/them and the balloons > > After I couldn't get down my beaters and salsa I gave and am now .15-.20 lighter. So far much better actually was able to get in 1/4 of a split ckn breast w/ a few bites of cooked carrot last night had my cheerios and skim this am. That is the only thing I can get down in the mornings. So we'll see how the rest of the day goes. I can still feel the restriction but no discomfort. I'll keep my fingers crossed! Would so love to pass the 40lb mark. Question for the moderators. My BMI was 38 at the start, does it make sense that if you have a lower bmi you don't need as much in your band. Seems likel most people have so much more in their band than I do. After accounting for ther tubing I have less tha 3.5cc in mine. > > > > CJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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