Re: L-Tyrosine plus iodine

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I've been researching this to & plan to add it to my vitamin/mineral

regime. Already ordered it - it's due here any day. Here's some of

the info I've found so far:

Effects of 3-nitro-l-tyrosine on thyroid function in the rat: an

experimental model for the dehalogenase defect

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=292197

Hypothyroidism

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsConditions/Hypothyroidismcc.html

(scroll down for l-tyrosine)

Tyrosine

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Tyrosinecs.html

Hair trace elements and hypothyroidism

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_247-

248/ai_113807026

Hypothyroidism

http://www.emedicinal.com/diseases/hypothyroidism.php

(some suggested dosing levels at the end)

http://www.pacifichealthcenter.com/updates/34.asp

(scroll down for some tyrosine comments)

REVIVING YOUR THYROID!

http://www.drdebe.com/RevivingYourThyroid.htm

Hypothyroidism after Sunitinib Treatment for Patients with

Gastrointestinal Stromal Tumors

http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/145/9/660

(basically, inhibiting tyrosine causes hypothyroidism - duh!)

L-thyroxine treatment and neurotransmitter levels in the

cerebrospinal fluid of hypothyroid patients: a pilot study

http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/139/5/493?ck=nck

(is this a piece of the puzzle why patients don't do as well on

Synthroid (l-throxine) - it inhibits tyrosine?)

Tyrosine 130 Is an Important Outer Ring Donor for Thyroxine

Formation in Thyroglobulin*

http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/full/273/39/25223

(discussion of how tyrosine works in creating thyroid hormone)

Primary congenital hypothyroidism: defects in iodine pathways.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=retrieve & db=pubmed & list_uids=14514339 & dopt=Abstract

(article looks interesting if I had the whole thing)

" ...Moreover, our finding of an enzyme that catalyses the

dehalogenation of iodotyrosines, which is important for iodine

recycling and required for economical use of iodine, is also

referred to... "

Tyrosine

http://www.alternativedr.com/tyrosine1.htm

Natural Supplements: Thyromine

http://thyroidstory.mivox.com/node/121

(someone that took a tyrosine supplement with good results while on

Armour. Includes Guggul (Guglipid), which I'm also adding into my

supplement regime.

http://www.anyvitamins.com/tyrosine-info.htm

" ...If taking a tyrosine supplement it is best to take it at

bedtime, or with a high carbohydrate meal to prevent competition of

absorption with other amino acids. Folic acid, copper and vitamin B6

is a good combination to have with this nutrient to maximize

absorption and effectiveness... "

Another way to dose tyrosine, to avoid protein competition:

http://www.newlifejournal.com/Oct06/Trigg.shtml

" ...If you take L-tyrosine as a dietary supplement, take it with

water first thing in the morning before eating... "

Hope someone finds all that useful

>

> I've been searching for OTC stuff at the health food store or

> supplement store, to help with the additiona of iodine.

>

> Clearly, for me, if I don't take iodine, nothing else works

properly. However, I saw this stuff that said it was " support in

stress " . I picked the bottle off the shelf and read the back.

Apparently, l-tyrosine is an amino acid required to synthesize

thyroid hormones, as well as dopamine and norepinephrine! So, I

decided to try it. I'm only taking half of the suggested dose.

Haven't noticed anything startling, but I do feel more " even " again.

> No " thyroid dump " as a result of adding this.

>

> best regards,

>

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>

> I've been researching this to & plan to add it to my vitamin/mineral

> regime. Already ordered it - it's due here any day. Here's some of

> the info I've found so far:

[...snip...]

Thanks for all the links! I supplement with 1500 mg L-tyrosine

divided evenly into mid-morning and mid-afternoon doses to help

with my hypothyroidism.

-

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

[Guest guest]

>

> A tumor growth factor is Tyrosine Kinase (TK)... so those with cancer or

> reoccurring skin cancer might want to skip the L-Tyrosine.

>

> http://www.apjohncancerinstitute.org/physician.htm

>

Wow... There's always so much to balance out...

best regards,

[Guest guest]

I've taken L-Tyrosine for a few years, since reading The Mood Cure by

Juilia Ross (excellent, excellent book). Tyrosine has a big adrenal

support effect in addition to thyroid. Every once in a while I try to

stop to see if I still need it and I feel like I'm having a nervous

breakdown so I keep taking it. Though I'm down to about 700mg.

Sharon

> I've been searching for OTC stuff at the health food store or

> supplement store, to help with the additiona of iodine.

>

> Clearly, for me, if I don't take iodine, nothing else works properly.

>

> However, I saw this stuff that said it was " support in stress " . I

> picked the bottle off the shelf and read the back. Apparently,

> l-tyrosine is an amino acid required to synthesize thyroid hormones,

> as well as dopamine and norepinephrine! So, I decided to try it.

>

> I'm only taking half of the suggested dose. Haven't noticed anything

> startling, but I do feel more " even " again.

>

> No " thyroid dump " as a result of adding this.

>

> best regards,

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

How much L-Tyrosine do you take? I want to get iodine in hopes of improving my mood and am wondering if this would help as well. I have a lot of anxiety and depression.

Shelli

Re: L-Tyrosine plus iodine

I've taken L-Tyrosine for a few years, since reading The Mood Cure by Juilia Ross (excellent, excellent book). Tyrosine has a big adrenal support effect in addition to thyroid. Every once in a while I try to stop to see if I still need it and I feel like I'm having a nervous breakdown so I keep taking it. Though I'm down to about 700mg. Sharon> I've been searching for OTC stuff at the health food store or> supplement store, to help with the additiona of iodine. > > Clearly, for me, if I don't take iodine, nothing else works properly. > > However, I saw this stuff that said it was "support in stress". I> picked the bottle off the shelf and read the back. Apparently,> l-tyrosine is an amino acid required to synthesize thyroid hormones,> as well as dopamine and norepinephrine! So, I decided to try it. > > I'm only taking half of the suggested dose. Haven't noticed anything> startling, but I do feel more "even" again. > > No "thyroid dump" as a result of adding this. > > best regards, >

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last time I tried tyrosine within minutes I thought I was having a heart attack. I wasn't on adrenal meds at the time though--maybe low iodine was also a factor.

Gracia

I've taken L-Tyrosine for a few years, since reading The Mood Cure by Juilia Ross (excellent, excellent book). Tyrosine has a big adrenal support effect in addition to thyroid. Every once in a while I try to stop to see if I still need it and I feel like I'm having a nervous breakdown so I keep taking it. Though I'm down to about 700mg. Sharon>

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Hi Shelli,

> Sharon,

> How much L-Tyrosine do you take? I want to get iodine in hopes of

improving my mood and am wondering if this would help as well. I have a

lot of anxiety and depression.

I think I started out taking 2000mg (divided 2 or 3 times in the day)

but I'm not sure. Now I just take 700mg first thing in the morning. I

don't recall what the recommendations are that I followed from the

book, but perhaps they are on Ross' website:

http://www.dietcure.com/ She wrote two books that I know of: The Mood

Cure and The Diet Cure. They are very similar but one is geared toward

mood problems and the other is geared toward weight loss. There are a

number of amino acids and other things that she recommends depending on

what type of mood problems you have so not everyone would necessarily

benefit from Tyrosine. I actually started on most of what she

recommended since I seemed to fit several of her categories. I was on

antidepressants at the time, and stopped them that day. (She says it is

not safe to take some of these things while on antidepressants.) I have

to say, I have not had a serious mood problem since then so I am a big

advocate of her approach.

Best wishes,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Yes, Gracia, thanks for mentioning that! I have done incredibly well on

Tyrosine but when I recommended it to a friend (with very similar

health issues: thyroid, adrenal, hormonal) she ended up in the

emergency room with vertigo! Be cautious!

Sharon

> last time I tried tyrosine within minutes I thought I was having a

heart attack. I wasn't on adrenal meds at the time though--maybe low

iodine was also a factor.

> Gracia

>

> I've taken L-Tyrosine for a few years, since reading The Mood Cure

by

> Juilia Ross (excellent, excellent book). Tyrosine has a big adrenal

> support effect in addition to thyroid. Every once in a while I try

to

> stop to see if I still need it and I feel like I'm having a nervous

> breakdown so I keep taking it. Though I'm down to about 700mg.

> Sharon

[Guest guest]

My doc wants me to take l-tyrosine with iodine. I've taken in the l-tyrosine

past & plan to try again. It's interesting to read about others experience.

Years ago I expereienced a very powerful positive reaction from l-Tyrosine

& l-phenylalanine (mood, appetite/satiety & energy). Most people

don't feel anything. Anyway, the effects wore off after a few months. This

was pre-Hashi's.

Amy

Shelli wrote:

Sharon,

How much L-Tyrosine do you take? I want to

get iodine in hopes of improving my mood and am wondering if this would

help as well. I have a lot of anxiety and depression.

Shelli

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,Was looking through some of these articles and noticed that the Reviving Your Thyroid article states that HC can inhibit thyroid function.  Anyone have any other info regarding that?On Nov 12, 2006, at 3:08 PM, jtb14789 wrote:REVIVING YOUR THYROID!http://www.drdebe.com/RevivingYourThyroid.htm. 

[Guest guest]

>From: Linn <linnmiller@...>

>Was looking through some of these articles and noticed that the Reviving

>Your Thyroid article states that HC can inhibit thyroid function. Anyone

>have any other info regarding that?

Excessive amounts will inhibit thyroid function. Inhibits T4 to T3

conversion also.

Appropriate amounts of HC do not do this.

I think iodine helps support adrenal function. So need for HC may be less

when supplementing with iodine.

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" sharflin " <sharflin@...> wrote:

> > How much L-Tyrosine do you take?

> I think I started out taking 2000mg

> (divided 2 or 3 times in the day)

> but I'm not sure. Now I just take 700mg first thing in the

morning.

2000 mg is a high amount of Tyrosine even in divided doses.

Amino acids are commonly in 500 mg gelatin capsules. Starting with

one in the late morning and seeing how that goes is a safe approach.

May not get the same effect each day, so every 2-3 days or acutely

as needed may be better for some, coupled with other approaches

done concurrently for whatever the situation.

Carol

willis_protocols

my article archive in Files, blog, Links, not a discussion group.

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Hi

Gracia,

I got some Lugol’s Iodine today and have already taken some

of it. Picked up L-Tyrosine and some adrenal support tonic.

I tried to find a Cortisol, like cortef, or isocort, but I need a prescription

so I settled for the herbal tonic. I don’t know if it will do

any good. Have you tried any of those? I am hoping my synthroid/armour

combo will really be jump-started with these. Of course I dug out

my multi-vitamins to support them too.

Here is a list of the ingredients in the tonic:

Eleuthero Root 2 4

Licorice Root 2 4

Oat “milky” Seed 2 4

Sarsaparilla Root 2 4

Prickly Ash Bark 2 4

I don’t know what those numbers mean the 2 circled then the 4

circled beside it.

Should I take the two iodine drops under the tongue or with water

or does it matter and do I take them four times a day?

Thanks for the help Gracia.

a

Re: Re: L-Tyrosine plus iodine

that is totally goofy. HC supports thyroid function.

Gracia

,

Was looking through some of these

articles and noticed that the Reviving Your Thyroid article states that HC can

inhibit thyroid function. Anyone have any other info regarding that?

On Nov 12, 2006, at 3:08 PM,

jtb14789 wrote:

REVIVING YOUR THYROID!

http://www.drdebe.com/RevivingYourThyroid.htm

..

[Guest guest]

a - in the US only Cortef is prescription. Isocort is OTC.

It's especially easy to order over the internet. Just Google for it.

It runs about $25 for a 240 pellet bottle. You're in Canada, right?

Have you checked to see if you can order it from a supplier & have

it delivered to Cananda? From Googling, it looks like you can't have

DHEA shipped to Canada, but I think you can get Isocort shipped from

a US site.

>

> Hi Gracia,

>

> I got some Lugol's Iodine today and have already taken some of it.

> Picked up L-Tyrosine and some adrenal support tonic. I tried to

find a Cortisol, like cortef, or isocort, but I need a prescription

so I settled for the herbal tonic. I don't know if it will do any

good. Have you tried any of those? I am hoping my synthroid/armour

combo will really be jump-started with these. Of course I dug out

my multi-vitamins to support them too.

> Here is a list of the ingredients in the tonic:

>

> Eleuthero Root 2 4

>

> Licorice Root 2 4

>

> Oat " milky " Seed 2 4

>

> Sarsaparilla Root 2 4

>

> Prickly Ash Bark 2 4

>

> I don't know what those numbers mean the 2 circled then the 4

circled beside it.

>

> Should I take the two iodine drops under the tongue or with water

or does it matter and do I take them four times a day?

>

> Thanks for the help Gracia.

>

> a

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>From: a <morganad@...>

>Unfortunately, I can't get the Cortef into Canada without a

>prescription, on-line or driving across the border. I will be having

>more lab tests done in two months, and when I see my doctor to discuss

>the results I will be presenting her with information I am gathering

>regarding low adrenal function and hypothyroid problems and using

>Cortisol. Hopefully, she will write me a prescription and in the

>meantime I will continue with they Iodine supplements along with the

>other tonic and mineral supplements.

Isocort does not require a prescription, it has 2.5 mg of HC per pellet.

Cortef is made in Canada, but it is by prescription.

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Hey a - you seem to be confusing the two supplements. Isocort

& Cortef are two entirely different cortisol products.

ISOCORT is NON-prescription. It's dried adrenal cortex. It's a

glandular supplement. It does not state the amount of cortisol on

the label, but the company has said it is supposed to contain 2.5mg

cortisol per pellet. Results from users seem to indicate it contains

slightly less than this.

CORTEF is PRESCRIPTION bio-identical hydrocortisone. It only

contains the active ingredient (not a glandular). It is available in

varying strengths - 5/10/25mg per pill.

You should be able to order the adrenal glandular ISOCORT (which

contains cortisol) and have it delivered to you in Canada, unless

there is some regulation I have not been able to track down.

Is that clearer or did I misunderstand you when you appeared to use

the terms Cortef & Isocort interchangably?

More info here:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/isocort/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

> Hi ,

> Unfortunately, I can't get the Cortef into Canada without a

> prescription, on-line or driving across the border. I will be

having more lab tests done in two months, and when I see my doctor

to discuss the results I will be presenting her with information I

am gathering regarding low adrenal function and hypothyroid problems

and using Cortisol. Hopefully, she will write me a prescription and

in the meantime I will continue with they Iodine supplements along

with the other tonic and mineral supplements.

>

> Thanks for your input .

>

> a

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf

> Of jtb14789

> a - in the US only Cortef is prescription. Isocort is OTC.

> It's especially easy to order over the internet. Just Google for

it. It runs about $25 for a 240 pellet bottle. You're in Canada,

right? Have you checked to see if you can order it from a supplier

& have it delivered to Cananda? From Googling, it looks like you

can't have DHEA shipped to Canada, but I think you can get Isocort

shipped from

> a US site.

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi a

the herbal tonic is "lite" but might be helpful. I l always like these tonics but they don't do much for me. I am not sure how to use Lugol's. I take Iodoral b/c it seems quick and easy, especially at work.

Gracia

Hi Gracia,

I got some Lugol’s Iodine today and have already taken some of it. Picked up L-Tyrosine and some adrenal support tonic. I tried to find a Cortisol, like cortef, or isocort, but I need a prescription so I settled for the herbal tonic. I don’t know if it will do any good. Have you tried any of those? I am hoping my synthroid/armour combo will really be jump-started with these. Of course I dug out my multi-vitamins to support them too.

Here is a list of the ingredients in the tonic:

Eleuthero Root 2 4

Licorice Root 2 4

Oat “milky” Seed 2 4

Sarsaparilla Root 2 4

Prickly Ash Bark 2 4

I don’t know what those numbers mean the 2 circled then the 4 circled beside it.

Should I take the two iodine drops under the tongue or with water or does it matter and do I take them four times a day?

Thanks for the help Gracia.

a

..

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Hi a,

It is possible the pharmacist was wrong. That would not be the first

time a pharmacist gave someone information that was absolutely WRONG.

As I understand, Isocort is not technically a cortisol product, it is

an adrenal extract. The company has verified that each pellet contains

a standard amount of cortisol; however, they do not list that on the

label to avoid having prescription status.

If you are really interested in it, you might just try ordering it from

one of the many online sources. Unless they say they don't ship to

Canada, my guess is you won't have a problem.

Best wishes,

Sharon

>

> Hi Skipper,

>

> Yes Isocort needs a prescription here in Canada, according to the

> pharmacist I talked to; in fact Ii need a prescription for any

Cortisol

> products in Canada. I am working on alternative ways to get it.

>

> Thanks,

>

> a

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Sharon,

> How much L-Tyrosine do you take? I want to get iodine in hopes of

improving my mood and am wondering if this would help as well. I have

a lot of anxiety and depression.

> Shelli

I'm taking a product that has 600 mg of Tyrosine per capsule. It says

to take 6 a day, but I'm taking 4. I take it apart from my iodine, to

ensure there is no interaction...

Since I'm a 46 year old and have a 6 year old and 9 month old, I can

say that it is helping with stress and that my mood is overall more

" even " . I'm not in the " dumps " , even though I have a lot on my plate!

best regards,

[Guest guest]

>

>

> last time I tried tyrosine within minutes I thought I was having a

heart attack. I wasn't on adrenal meds at the time though--maybe low

iodine was also a factor.

> Gracia

I've been fine -- but was on iodine for at least a couple of months

before I added l-tyrosine. Have only had one experience of some mild

heart palps on the first day I upped my dosage to 4 capsules. Nothing

since.

best regards,