Re: How much lugols if any?

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>From: " free2ridejones " <springs@...>

>Hi everyone

>

>With the below results how much lugol's would you suggest taking if

>to take any at all. I am thinking lugols as this is something I can

>get my hands on without a script as here in NZ our results say I am

>hyper but people from various forums have said I am hypo. So do you

>have any iodine suggestions for me.

It wouldn't hurt to try a couple drops a day of Lugol's Solution. I know

I've read Australia has a lot of iodine defiency, not sure about NZ. One

common reason for low thyroid function is low iodine, and if that's your

problems it'll be corrected. Even if not, it might still be helpful to you,

but you could still need thyroid meds.

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The TSH does look more hyper than hypo. What symptoms are you having

& were you tested for thyroid antibodies to see if you have

Hashimoto's?

>

> Hi everyone

>

> With the below results how much lugol's would you suggest taking

if to take any at all. I am thinking lugols as this is something I

can get my hands on without a script as here in NZ our results say I

am hyper but people from various forums have said I am hypo. So do

you have any iodine suggestions for me.

>

> Our range for free t4 is (10 - 23.0)

> tsh is (.30-5.00)

> t3 is (2.8-6.8)

>

> My results over time are

> 28 Nov 03 tsh .87

> 23 Sep 04 free t4 16.5 tsh 1.1 free t3 4.6

> 15 Oct 04 free t4 13.1

> 11 Apr 05 tsh .47

> 08 Dec 05 free t4 12.5 tsh 0.14 free t3 4.0

> 16 Oct 06 free t4 14.5 tsh 0.75 free t3 4.7

>

> Thanks everyone for you help

>

> Margo

>

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Hi

I have hyper symptoms in the morning and hypo in the afternoon. Most

of the day I am cold even when it is warm. In the afternoon (most

days)I get even colder and drop off to sleep for a nana nap. My temp

is a little on the low side when I take it and even lower in the

afternoon. I have tested positived for microsomal antibodies 1:400

range here is (<1:100) and negative for thyroglobulin antibodies. I

am not currently taking anything for my thyroid. Have tried HC for

adrenal fatigue but that made me worse.

Thanks Margo

> >

> > Hi everyone

> >

> > With the below results how much lugol's would you suggest taking

> if to take any at all. I am thinking lugols as this is something I

> can get my hands on without a script as here in NZ our results say

I

> am hyper but people from various forums have said I am hypo. So do

> you have any iodine suggestions for me.

> >

> > Our range for free t4 is (10 - 23.0)

> > tsh is (.30-5.00)

> > t3 is (2.8-6.8)

> >

> > My results over time are

> > 28 Nov 03 tsh .87

> > 23 Sep 04 free t4 16.5 tsh 1.1 free t3 4.6

> > 15 Oct 04 free t4 13.1

> > 11 Apr 05 tsh .47

> > 08 Dec 05 free t4 12.5 tsh 0.14 free t3 4.0

> > 16 Oct 06 free t4 14.5 tsh 0.75 free t3 4.7

> >

> > Thanks everyone for you help

> >

> > Margo

> >

>

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Hi Margo, you have Hashimoto's, with the antibodies. With that, you

can jump around from feeling hyper to feeling hypo.

Try the Lugol's and see how it helps you. A conservative dosing

regime might be to start with 2 drops & increase by 2 drops every 5

days. Assess how you feel as you go along and see if you have any

side effects. Sometimes iodine can detox mercury, bromine, chloride

& fluoride. You might get pimples, itching or hives if that's the

case. If you get those, or any other side effects, back down to a

lower dose & see how you fee. After being at that level for a few

months, maybe you could try decreasing down to 1 or 2 drops/day or

even alternating days & see how you feel.

What happened when you took the HC? How did that make you feel

worse? How much did you take? How did you dose it? What brand did

you use? Sometimes the kind, amount & dosing schedule of what you

take can be the problem, not necessarily the HC.

Have you had your ferritin (storage iron) levels checked? That's

different that your serum (blood) iron levels. Low ferritin can make

you feel bad when you're hypo too. Most people feel better when

their ferritin is in the 70-90 range.

Hopefully someone with Hashi's will have some more ideas for you. I

don't have it - just regular hypo.

> > > Hi everyone

> > >

> > > With the below results how much lugol's would you suggest

taking if to take any at all. I am thinking lugols as this is

something I can get my hands on without a script as here in NZ our

results say I am hyper ut people from various forums have said I am

hypo. So do you have any iodine suggestions for me.

> > >

> > > Our range for free t4 is (10 - 23.0)

> > > tsh is (.30-5.00)

> > > t3 is (2.8-6.8)

> > >

> > > My results over time are

> > > 28 Nov 03 tsh .87

> > > 23 Sep 04 free t4 16.5 tsh 1.1 free t3 4.6

> > > 15 Oct 04 free t4 13.1

> > > 11 Apr 05 tsh .47

> > > 08 Dec 05 free t4 12.5 tsh 0.14 free t3 4.0

> > > 16 Oct 06 free t4 14.5 tsh 0.75 free t3 4.7

> > >

> > > Thanks everyone for you help Margo

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Hi

I took an NZ distributed HC can't tell you what brand as it doesn't

say, just the distributor. Anyway they were 5mg tablets to be taken

as follows: 2 tabs in the morning 2 tabs at lunchtime and 1 tab

between 5 & 6pm. To be taken 1/2 an hour before food. While I was

taking them I was just my usual in the morning but when about 2pm

came round (usual nap time for me) I needed match sticks to hold my

eyes open. I do remember I was not as chilled while on them but and

I was not as itchy but that was about it really. I took them for 7

days and stopped. I tried them again at a later date and the same

thing happened.

Iron test were last taken 10 April 06

Serum Iron umol/L 13 range (10-30)

serum TIBC umol/L 56 range (45-80)

% saturation % 23 range (16-50)

ferritin ug/L 58 range (20-200)

I did question my doc about the iron being within range but on the

low side but she thought it was ok.

I have noticed over the last couple of days that I have still had

hyper symptoms in the morning and geeling not too bad in the

afternoon. Have not needed a nap for a couple of days. I am not

taking anything so not sure if things will go down hill soon. I have

an appointment this Friday so if you can suggest any test I should

have that would be much apperciated. Also with Hashimoto's is it

normal to change from hyper to hypo in the one day, sometimes at

night after feeling hypo I start to feel hyper again. I am going to

have a job in getting the doc to understand that I am hypo not hyper

and I can understand that as they can only go by or blood tests.

Thanks again

Margo

> > > > Hi everyone

> > > >

> > > > With the below results how much lugol's would you suggest

> taking if to take any at all. I am thinking lugols as this is

> something I can get my hands on without a script as here in NZ our

> results say I am hyper ut people from various forums have said I am

> hypo. So do you have any iodine suggestions for me.

> > > >

> > > > Our range for free t4 is (10 - 23.0)

> > > > tsh is (.30-5.00)

> > > > t3 is (2.8-6.8)

> > > >

> > > > My results over time are

> > > > 28 Nov 03 tsh .87

> > > > 23 Sep 04 free t4 16.5 tsh 1.1 free t3 4.6

> > > > 15 Oct 04 free t4 13.1

> > > > 11 Apr 05 tsh .47

> > > > 08 Dec 05 free t4 12.5 tsh 0.14 free t3 4.0

> > > > 16 Oct 06 free t4 14.5 tsh 0.75 free t3 4.7

> > > >

> > > > Thanks everyone for you help Margo

>

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Did you build up slowly, over a 3 week span, to the 25mg/day of HC

or just start taking it as the label lists? Because you shouldn't

start taking it all at once. You need to give your body time to

adjust. There's dosing info here:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/how-to-treat

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

AFA your iron, I would say you might benefit from taking some. Your

ferritin's not really low, but most people seem to do better in the

70-90 range. That, coupled with the low serum iron reading, makes me

think that a little extra might give you some extra oompf. Here's

some more info on that:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ferritin/

Missy on the ferritin board knows a lot about it. You could ask her

for more info:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/community/viewforum.php?

f=4 & sid=fc0fa2fb9178646fd21cc20ce7afc941

Are you on any Armour or other thyroid hormone? Have you had any

testing for your adrenals/cortisol levels, either blood or 4x/day

saliva testing? I'm wondering where you might stand with adrenal

fatigue.

>

> Hi

>

> I took an NZ distributed HC can't tell you what brand as it

doesn't say, just the distributor. Anyway they were 5mg tablets to

be taken as follows: 2 tabs in the morning 2 tabs at lunchtime and

1 tab between 5 & 6pm. To be taken 1/2 an hour before food. While

I was taking them I was just my usual in the morning but when about

2pm came round (usual nap time for me) I needed match sticks to hold

my eyes open. I do remember I was not as chilled while on them but

and I was not as itchy but that was about it really. I took them

for 7 days and stopped. I tried them again at a later date and the

same thing happened.

>

> Iron test were last taken 10 April 06

> Serum Iron umol/L 13 range (10-30)

> serum TIBC umol/L 56 range (45-80)

> % saturation % 23 range (16-50)

> ferritin ug/L 58 range (20-200)

>

> I did question my doc about the iron being within range but on the

> low side but she thought it was ok.

>

> I have noticed over the last couple of days that I have still had

> hyper symptoms in the morning and geeling not too bad in the

> afternoon. Have not needed a nap for a couple of days. I am not

> taking anything so not sure if things will go down hill soon. I

have an appointment this Friday so if you can suggest any test I

should have that would be much apperciated. Also with Hashimoto's

is it normal to change from hyper to hypo in the one day, sometimes

at night after feeling hypo I start to feel hyper again. I am going

to have a job in getting the doc to understand that I am hypo not

hyper and I can understand that as they can only go by or blood

tests.

>

> Thanks again

> Margo

>

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Hi

Just did what the doctor ordered as per label. Will look at the

website though.

Back in 2004 this is the following results for cortisol (24hr urine

collection for this one):

Serum Cortisol

Cortisol 258 nmol/L ref range 0700-0900 hours 118 - 618 nmol/L

Urine Cortisol

Urine volume 840ml over 24 hrs

concentration excretion this period range

urine cortisol 203 nmol/L 171 nmol 100-400

creatinine 14.7mmol/L 12.3 mmol/day 7.0-12.5

a note says : Normal excretion for femal is 0.10-.018 mmol/kg/24hrs

Hope all that make sense. Also I am not taking any thyroid meds and

never have.

Thanks Margo

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > I took an NZ distributed HC can't tell you what brand as it

> doesn't say, just the distributor. Anyway they were 5mg tablets

to

> be taken as follows: 2 tabs in the morning 2 tabs at lunchtime

and

> 1 tab between 5 & 6pm. To be taken 1/2 an hour before food. While

> I was taking them I was just my usual in the morning but when about

> 2pm came round (usual nap time for me) I needed match sticks to

hold

> my eyes open. I do remember I was not as chilled while on them but

> and I was not as itchy but that was about it really. I took them

> for 7 days and stopped. I tried them again at a later date and the

> same thing happened.

> >

> > Iron test were last taken 10 April 06

> > Serum Iron umol/L 13 range (10-30)

> > serum TIBC umol/L 56 range (45-80)

> > % saturation % 23 range (16-50)

> > ferritin ug/L 58 range (20-200)

> >

> > I did question my doc about the iron being within range but on

the

> > low side but she thought it was ok.

> >

> > I have noticed over the last couple of days that I have still had

> > hyper symptoms in the morning and geeling not too bad in the

> > afternoon. Have not needed a nap for a couple of days. I am not

> > taking anything so not sure if things will go down hill soon. I

> have an appointment this Friday so if you can suggest any test I

> should have that would be much apperciated. Also with Hashimoto's

> is it normal to change from hyper to hypo in the one day, sometimes

> at night after feeling hypo I start to feel hyper again. I am

going

> to have a job in getting the doc to understand that I am hypo not

> hyper and I can understand that as they can only go by or blood

> tests.

> >

> > Thanks again

> > Margo

> >

>

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That test for lupus gives a false positive when you have Hashimoto's. That's

why you were checked for lupus. So I would say no lupus or hashimoto's.

--- free2ridejones <springs@...> wrote:

> Oh boy. One thing I can be sure of is I don't have SLE if our blood

> tests are right here.

>

> Margo

>

>

> > > > > > Hi everyone

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With the below results how much lugol's would you suggest

> > > taking if to take any at all. I am thinking lugols as this is

> > > something I can get my hands on without a script as here in NZ

> our

> > > results say I am hyper ut people from various forums have said I

> am

> > > hypo. So do you have any iodine suggestions for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our range for free t4 is (10 - 23.0)

> > > > > > tsh is (.30-5.00)

> > > > > > t3 is (2.8-6.8)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My results over time are

> > > > > > 28 Nov 03 tsh .87

> > > > > > 23 Sep 04 free t4 16.5 tsh 1.1 free t3 4.6

> > > > > > 15 Oct 04 free t4 13.1

> > > > > > 11 Apr 05 tsh .47

> > > > > > 08 Dec 05 free t4 12.5 tsh 0.14 free t3 4.0

> > > > > > 16 Oct 06 free t4 14.5 tsh 0.75 free t3 4.7

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks everyone for you help Margo

> > >

> > >

> > >

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,Are you talking about an ANA test?  LinnOn Nov 14, 2006, at 12:41 PM, wrote:That test for lupus gives a false positive when you have Hashimoto's. That'swhy you were checked for lupus. So I would say no lupus or hashimoto's. --- free2ridejones <springsxtra (DOT) co.nz> wrote:. 

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Not sure if this is any good to you but I have test for:

11 April 05 Antineutrophil cytoplasmic antibodies (ANCA) negative

11 April 05 Anti- dsDNA (FARR) 1.6 IU/ml range (<8.4)

11 April 05 Toxoplasma IgM negative

10 Nov 2004

Antinuclear Antibodies positive

Titre 10 range (<80)

pattern nucleolar

anti-dsDNA (FARR) 5.9 IU/mL range (<8.4)

Auto antibody screen

Parietal Cell Antibodies negative

Smooth Muscle Antibodies negative

??tochondrial Antibodies negative (mitochondrial ?)

Thanks Margo

> >

> > .

> >

> >

>

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Thanks for the advice. Off to the doc tomorrow so will see what she

says.

Margo

>

>

> this doesn't sound like a good way to take HC. you might try 5mg

4X a day.

> Gracia

>

> Hi

>

> I took an NZ distributed HC can't tell you what brand as it

doesn't

> say, just the distributor. Anyway they were 5mg tablets to be

taken

> as follows: 2 tabs in the morning 2 tabs at lunchtime and 1 tab

> between 5 & 6pm. To be taken 1/2 an hour before food. While I was

> taking them I was just my usual in the morning but when about 2pm

> came round (usual nap time for me) I needed match sticks to hold

my

> eyes open. I do remember I was not as chilled while on them but

and

> I was not as itchy but that was about it really. I took them for

7

> days and stopped. I tried them again at a later date and the same

> thing happened.

>

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