Re: A thousand pardons: What is going on w/me?

[Guest guest]

????

what massive doses of thyroid meds are you on? 60mcg of T3 BID only???

Certainly that is very low.

you should be on something like Armour. Patch test is very low dose iodine as

well. Feelings of impending doom are adrenal.

gracia

Hello everyone,

I admit that for some reason I'm just not absorbing the basics of this

list. I don't know why...maybe it's hypothyroid symptoms. I know I'm

being silly. I am on 60mcg of T3 bid, and do have some thyroid

antibodies. I think I'm mercury poisoned, since as I've done gentle

chelation, sleep has improved, energy has improved etc.

Yet I still need to be on these massive doses of thyroid. I've heard

y'all talking about the patch test, and I ended up doing it about 3

days in a row. The result were these weird racing dreams that made me

wake up in the middle of the night to rush downstairs and deal with

the impending doom! I almost never get these things. (Actually I got

these the first time, I was taking Magnesium Chloride consistently).

So taking iodine, and/or MgCL makes for these strange night

situations. In this case is the iodine causing my thyroid to ramp

up, and I'm getting the weird dreams because my adrenals can't keep up?

Because I have antibodies should I not be taking iodine?

But isn't the iodine " working too successfully " and I need to tone it

down, or is working adversely?

I can't figure it out, and don't know if the above makes sense to anyone.

Help?!!

Ghina

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ghina,

Are you a member of the frequent dose chelation and the natural

thyroid hormone groups? Between those two groups and this one, you

will find answers to your questions. Some of my issues are being

addressed by iodine, others may be handled by natural thyroid

hormones. After amalgam removal I plan to begin chelation. Check the

FILES section and post your questions, someone is going through or

has already been through the same thing you are.

I hesitate to mention the natural hormone adrenal group. It is hit

or miss with responses to queries I've made there. I've even gotten

good information related to thyroid from the frequent dose chelation

group. Most of this is new to me, but I'm willing discuss these

issues offlist via e-mail.

All the best,

Orelindel

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I admit that for some reason I'm just not absorbing the basics of

this

> list. I don't know why...maybe it's hypothyroid symptoms. I know

I'm

> being silly. I am on 60mcg of T3 bid, and do have some thyroid

> antibodies. I think I'm mercury poisoned, since as I've done

gentle

> chelation, sleep has improved, energy has improved etc.

>

> Yet I still need to be on these massive doses of thyroid. I've

heard

> y'all talking about the patch test, and I ended up doing it about 3

> days in a row. The result were these weird racing dreams that

made me

> wake up in the middle of the night to rush downstairs and deal with

> the impending doom! I almost never get these things. (Actually I

got

> these the first time, I was taking Magnesium Chloride

consistently).

>

> So taking iodine, and/or MgCL makes for these strange night

> situations. In this case is the iodine causing my thyroid to

ramp

> up, and I'm getting the weird dreams because my adrenals can't

keep up?

>

> Because I have antibodies should I not be taking iodine?

>

> But isn't the iodine " working too successfully " and I need to tone

it

> down, or is working adversely?

>

> I can't figure it out, and don't know if the above makes sense to

anyone.

>

> Help?!!

> Ghina

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry this is probobly a little off topic. I have some second

hand experience w/chelation. I've always thought about doing it but

wanted ti learn more.Could you please tell me the name of this web

site. LOL

Debbie

In iodine , " orelindel " <whatmattersmost@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Ghina,

>

> Are you a member of the frequent dose chelation and the natural

> thyroid hormone groups? Between those two groups and this one, you

> will find answers to your questions. Some of my issues are being

> addressed by iodine, others may be handled by natural thyroid

> hormones. After amalgam removal I plan to begin chelation. Check

the

> FILES section and post your questions, someone is going through or

> has already been through the same thing you are.

>

> I hesitate to mention the natural hormone adrenal group. It is hit

> or miss with responses to queries I've made there. I've even gotten

> good information related to thyroid from the frequent dose

chelation

> group. Most of this is new to me, but I'm willing discuss these

> issues offlist via e-mail.

>

> All the best,

>

> Orelindel

>

>

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I admit that for some reason I'm just not absorbing the basics of

> this

> > list. I don't know why...maybe it's hypothyroid symptoms. I

know

> I'm

> > being silly. I am on 60mcg of T3 bid, and do have some thyroid

> > antibodies. I think I'm mercury poisoned, since as I've done

> gentle

> > chelation, sleep has improved, energy has improved etc.

> >

> > Yet I still need to be on these massive doses of thyroid. I've

> heard

> > y'all talking about the patch test, and I ended up doing it about

3

> > days in a row. The result were these weird racing dreams that

> made me

> > wake up in the middle of the night to rush downstairs and deal

with

> > the impending doom! I almost never get these things. (Actually

I

> got

> > these the first time, I was taking Magnesium Chloride

> consistently).

> >

> > So taking iodine, and/or MgCL makes for these strange night

> > situations. In this case is the iodine causing my thyroid to

> ramp

> > up, and I'm getting the weird dreams because my adrenals can't

> keep up?

> >

> > Because I have antibodies should I not be taking iodine?

> >

> > But isn't the iodine " working too successfully " and I need to

tone

> it

> > down, or is working adversely?

> >

> > I can't figure it out, and don't know if the above makes sense to

> anyone.

> >

> > Help?!!

> > Ghina

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

Here's the link.

frequent-dose-chelation/?

yguid=260502182

It's called frequent dose chelation. It's a very active group.

Orelindel

>

> I'm sorry this is probobly a little off topic. I have some second

> hand experience w/chelation. I've always thought about doing it

but

> wanted ti learn more.Could you please tell me the name of this web

> site. LOL

>

Debbie

>

[Guest guest]

HI ,

I'm confused about your response because T3 (time-released) is much more potent

than Armour. I understand armour is a 4-1 ratio of T4 to T3 while i'm taking

pure T3. I thnk that AMA will not really allow anyone to have more than 50 mcg

of T3 BID on a long term basis. But you are right I've heard of people taking

more than that.

Yes I'm thinking there's an adrenal component, thanks for confirming. So does

this mean that if I take iodine, that I then need to add cortef or something? I

have been afraid to take Iodoral because of the impending doom scenarios. I

need a doctor don't I? Anyone recommend one in the DC Metro area?

Thanks,

Ghina

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????

what massive doses of thyroid meds are you on? 60mcg of T3 BID only???

Certainly that is very low.

you should be on something like Armour. Patch test is very low dose iodine as

well. Feelings of impending doom are adrenal.

gracia

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[Guest guest]

Hi Orelindel,

Yes I am, and about 15 other related boards. I think I'm in overload and just

can't absorb any more information. I'm chelating myself with DMSA./ALA and am

about to try just ALA alone. It has taken a long time to get here since I was

so toxic. I'm doing the low and slow approach.

Let's chat!

Ghina

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Hi Ghina,

Are you a member of the frequent dose chelation and the natural

thyroid hormone groups? Between those two groups and this one, you

will find answers to your questions. Some of my issues are being

addressed by iodine, others may be handled by natural thyroid

hormones. After amalgam removal I plan to begin chelation. Check the

FILES section and post your questions, someone is going through or

has already been through the same thing you are.

I hesitate to mention the natural hormone adrenal group. It is hit

or miss with responses to queries I've made there. I've even gotten

good information related to thyroid from the frequent dose chelation

group. Most of this is new to me, but I'm willing discuss these

issues offlist via e-mail.

All the best,

Orelindel

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[Guest guest]

Oh I am sorry Ghina, I was thinking T3 was dosed in mgs not mcgs. Yes the T3

is potent but I think a whole thyroid med is better treatment. then add cortef

and iodoral---I think Iodoral is a pretty powerful detoxifier.

Gracia

HI ,

I'm confused about your response because T3 (time-released) is much more

potent than Armour. I understand armour is a 4-1 ratio of T4 to T3 while i'm

taking pure T3. I thnk that AMA will not really allow anyone to have more than

50 mcg of T3 BID on a long term basis. But you are right I've heard of people

taking more than that.

Yes I'm thinking there's an adrenal component, thanks for confirming. So does

this mean that if I take iodine, that I then need to add cortef or something? I

have been afraid to take Iodoral because of the impending doom scenarios. I need

a doctor don't I? Anyone recommend one in the DC Metro area?

Thanks,

Ghina

----------------------------------------------

????

what massive doses of thyroid meds are you on? 60mcg of T3 BID only???

Certainly that is very low.

you should be on something like Armour. Patch test is very low dose iodine as

well. Feelings of impending doom are adrenal.

gracia

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[Guest guest]

I can't speak for her but every thing I have read says that you must remove the

source of toxin before trying to pull it out or you will get / risk being

poisoned more. Mercury loves neuro tissue because it is high in fat and if it

is released can relocate. I did Chlorella and Mercurius Viv while removing my

amalgams (1 quadrant at a time per week) and then two weeks later started to

Chelate with DMSA. Read some of the amalgam books like " It's all in your head "

by Hal Huggins, DDS, " Total Body Dentistry " by Mark Breiner, DDS and " Amalgam

Illness " by Andy Cutler - he is the one with the most accepted protocol in the

mercury /autism world. I am not following his way of doing things but did read

his book to understand how it all works.

B.

Re: Re: A thousand pardons: What is going on w/me?Orelindel

Why will you wait until after they are removed. Is there any particular reason

you dont start while the process is going on, so to make it a little less

convenient for any toxicity to attach somewhere?

Just curious...

Michigan

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