Re: sublingual thyroid meds

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>>For those of you who proclaim it's better to take thyroid medications

sublingually, how do you answer this -

http://www.thecompounder.com/bhrtoptions.html

<http://www.thecompounder.com/bhrtoptions.html>

" The sublingual route has the advantage of bypassing the liver. "

Is this really an advantage when most T4 is supposed to go to the

liver to be converted to the active thyroid hormone T3?<<

Sublingual goes directly into the blood stream, where it will get to

the liver, but will bypass the digestive system where much is thought to

be lost. At the very least I have read that Calcitonin is lost when it

contacts stomach acids.

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> For those of you who proclaim it's better to take thyroid medications

> sublingually, how do you answer this -

>> http://www.thecompounder.com/bhrtoptions.html

> " The sublingual route has the advantage of bypassing the liver. "

> Is this really an advantage when most T4 is supposed to go to the

> liver to be converted to the active thyroid hormone T3?

> Skipper

Skipper,

I have no thyroid due to congenital misdevelopment. I take Time Cap Labs

dessicated thyroid, and I have taken it exclusively sublingually for 1.5

years, primarily because taking it sublingually frees me from any

constraints as to when I take supplements or eat.

My lab tests on 5/30/06 showed my T4 was 12.4 (range 4.5-12) and my Free T3

was 7.1 (range 2.3-4.2). So my body is obviously making plenty of T3,

despite supposedly bypassing the liver by taking the pill sublingually. How

do you explain that?

Lynn

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>From: " Lynn McGaha " <lmcgaha@...>

>My lab tests on 5/30/06 showed my T4 was 12.4 (range 4.5-12) and my Free T3

>was 7.1 (range 2.3-4.2). So my body is obviously making plenty of T3,

>despite supposedly bypassing the liver by taking the pill sublingually.

>How

>do you explain that?

How many grains of dessicated thyroid are you on?

Skipper

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> >From: " Lynn McGaha " <lmcgaha@...>

>

> >My lab tests on 5/30/06 showed my T4 was 12.4 (range 4.5-12) and my Free

T3

> >was 7.1 (range 2.3-4.2). So my body is obviously making plenty of T3,

> >despite supposedly bypassing the liver by taking the pill sublingually.

> >How do you explain that?

> How many grains of dessicated thyroid are you on?

> Skipper

I was on 4 grains of dessicated thyroid when I had that test done. I went

to 4.5 grains after starting 20 mg. Cortef in June.

Lynn

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what's in the blood and what's getting into cells can be two different things.

Also the high T3 is from the thyroid hormone you are taking. My free T3 is

always above range, which is good for me.

gracia

> For those of you who proclaim it's better to take thyroid medications

> sublingually, how do you answer this -

>> http://www.thecompounder.com/bhrtoptions.html

> " The sublingual route has the advantage of bypassing the liver. "

> Is this really an advantage when most T4 is supposed to go to the

> liver to be converted to the active thyroid hormone T3?

> Skipper

Skipper,

I have no thyroid due to congenital misdevelopment. I take Time Cap Labs

dessicated thyroid, and I have taken it exclusively sublingually for 1.5

years, primarily because taking it sublingually frees me from any

constraints as to when I take supplements or eat.

My lab tests on 5/30/06 showed my T4 was 12.4 (range 4.5-12) and my Free T3

was 7.1 (range 2.3-4.2). So my body is obviously making plenty of T3,

despite supposedly bypassing the liver by taking the pill sublingually. How

do you explain that?

Lynn

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I can testify to that!......at " perfect " labs......TSH 0.05, Free T3 5.3

with upper limit 5.4 and Free T4 19 with upper limit 24 I wanted to kill

myself and could barely function..............Meleese in Oz xxx

-- Re: sublingual thyroid meds

what's in the blood and what's getting into cells can be two different

things. Also the high T3 is from the thyroid hormone you are taking. My

free T3 is always above range, which is good for me.

gracia

> For those of you who proclaim it's better to take thyroid medications

> sublingually, how do you answer this -

>> http://www.thecompounder.com/bhrtoptions.html

> " The sublingual route has the advantage of bypassing the liver. "

> Is this really an advantage when most T4 is supposed to go to the

> liver to be converted to the active thyroid hormone T3?

> Skipper

Skipper,

I have no thyroid due to congenital misdevelopment. I take Time Cap Labs

dessicated thyroid, and I have taken it exclusively sublingually for 1.5

years, primarily because taking it sublingually frees me from any

constraints as to when I take supplements or eat.

My lab tests on 5/30/06 showed my T4 was 12.4 (range 4.5-12) and my Free

T3

was 7.1 (range 2.3-4.2). So my body is obviously making plenty of T3,

despite supposedly bypassing the liver by taking the pill sublingually.

How

do you explain that?

Lynn

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Skipper seemed to be making the point that a person shouldn't be converting

T4 to T3 at all if taking thyroid sublingually, because taking it

sublingually bypasses the liver. I think my blood tests prove that wrong.

Yes, dessicated thyroid would contribute some T3, because it is about 17%

T3. But since my FT3 value is so high, I think it's obvious that I am

converting T4 to T3. I think the mechanism is as explained it, that

the T4 gets into the bloodstream via sublingual capillaries, the T4 gets

transported to the liver via the bloodstream, and then it gets converted to

T3. I have read that the conversion is also supposed to take place in

peripheral tissues other than the liver.

The issue of what's in the blood vs. what's in the cells is an entirely

different issue than the one we were discussing, which is whether T3 gets

created in the first place when using sublingual dosing. But since you

bring it up, it's possible that my low cortisol is responsible for the T3

staying in my blood and not getting into my cells. Since I started 20 mg.

Cortef a month after the blood test, (and now Iodoral as well), it will be

interesting to see what the next thyroid tests show. My other theory is

that I may have a low number of thyroid cell receptors, since this was a

congenital problem. Whatever the reason, the closest I get to having hyper

symptoms is having a pulse in the mid 80's.

Lynn

> what's in the blood and what's getting into cells can be two different

things. Also the high T3 is from the thyroid hormone you are taking. My

free T3 is always above range, which is good for me.

> gracia

>

> > For those of you who proclaim it's better to take thyroid medications

> > sublingually, how do you answer this -

> >> http://www.thecompounder.com/bhrtoptions.html

> > " The sublingual route has the advantage of bypassing the liver. "

> > Is this really an advantage when most T4 is supposed to go to the

> > liver to be converted to the active thyroid hormone T3?

> > Skipper

>

> Skipper,

>

> I have no thyroid due to congenital misdevelopment. I take Time Cap Labs

> dessicated thyroid, and I have taken it exclusively sublingually for 1.5

> years, primarily because taking it sublingually frees me from any

> constraints as to when I take supplements or eat.

>

> My lab tests on 5/30/06 showed my T4 was 12.4 (range 4.5-12) and my Free

T3

> was 7.1 (range 2.3-4.2). So my body is obviously making plenty of T3,

> despite supposedly bypassing the liver by taking the pill sublingually.

How

> do you explain that?

>

> Lynn

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doesn't it normally go to the liver via blood?

Gracia

For those of you who proclaim it's better to take thyroid medications

sublingually, how do you answer this -

http://www.thecompounder.com/bhrtoptions.html

" The sublingual route has the advantage of bypassing the liver. "

Is this really an advantage when most T4 is supposed to go to the

liver to be converted to the active thyroid hormone T3?

Skipper

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