Re: Re: Mercury, Hydrogen Peroxide and Selenium

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>From: " Jerry Mittelman " <jmittelman@...>

>Keep peroxide out of your mouth.

> It has a low pH - acidic. . . and will decalcify tooth structure. It

>makes exposed root surfaces sensitive and painful, hard to keep clean.

>Then the weakened surface is more likely to decay.

> Yes, it whitens the enamel, but it also decalcifies and weakens the

>enamel's surface - makes it porous and more likely to stain.

Maybe.

I've brushed my teeth with it for two years now. I haven't needed any

dental work since I started, no additional decay.

I intentionally started after I had my teeth cleaned. Six months later, I

went back for my dentist's inspection and he said they were fine. I did not

tell him I used H2O2. He told my grown daughter later, if someone brushes

with hydrogen peroxide for a long time, their tongue will turn black. (Mine

hasn't incidentally, she could have heard wrong or he could have been

joking.)

As for pH, I've read the mouth should be around 6.4 (?) I don't know what

the pH of 3% hydrogen peroxide is, but I found a table that shows 10% H2O2

has a pH of 5.3. So, I'm not sure it's going to be so far acidic that it's

likely to cause problems.

There's one pub med study that didn't find any difference in

decalcification. They used 1.5% H2O2 instead of the household standard 3%,

and only had 30 people using it but they found -

http://tinyurl.com/krcqz

Two-year longitudinal study of a peroxide-fluoride rinse on decalcification

in adolescent orthodontic patients.

The results showed no significant differences between any of the groups

before orthodontic treatment.

*****************

Of course, maybe the difference was that toxic flouride in the mix those

dentists push on us.

Also, that was only one small study, and there may be others.

I could be wrong.

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>From: " Jerry Mittelman " <jmittelman@...>

>Keep peroxide out of your mouth.

> It has a low pH - acidic. . . and will decalcify tooth structure. It

>makes exposed root surfaces sensitive and painful, hard to keep clean.

>Then the weakened surface is more likely to decay.

I also want to mention that before I started H2O2, my gums had started to

recede and were painful along the gum lines. Not so any more.

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So how exactly do you use it? Do you pour the peroxide on your

toothbrush? Do you mix it with toothpaste?

Irene

At 07:44 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:

>From: " Jerry

Mittelman "

<jmittelman@...>

>Keep peroxide out of your mouth.

> It has a low pH - acidic. . . and will decalcify tooth structure. It

>makes exposed root surfaces sensitive and painful, hard to keep

clean.

>Then the weakened surface is more likely to decay.

> Yes, it whitens the enamel, but it also decalcifies and weakens the

>enamel's surface - makes it porous and more likely to stain.

Maybe.

I've brushed my teeth with it for two years now. I haven't needed any

dental work since I started, no additional decay.

I intentionally started after I had my teeth cleaned. Six months later, I

went back for my dentist's inspection and he said they were fine. I did

not

tell him I used H2O2. He told my grown daughter later, if someone brushes

with hydrogen peroxide for a long time, their tongue will turn black.

(Mine

hasn't incidentally, she could have heard wrong or he could have been

joking.)

As for pH, I've read the mouth should be around 6.4 (?) I don't know what

the pH of 3% hydrogen peroxide is, but I found a table that shows 10%

H2O2

has a pH of 5.3. So, I'm not sure it's going to be so far acidic that

it's

likely to cause problems.

There's one pub med study that didn't find any difference in

decalcification. They used 1.5% H2O2 instead of the household standard

3%,

and only had 30 people using it but they found -

http://tinyurl.com/krcqz

Two-year longitudinal study of a peroxide-fluoride rinse on

decalcification

in adolescent orthodontic patients.

The results showed no significant differences between any of the groups

before orthodontic treatment.

*****************

Of course, maybe the difference was that toxic flouride in the mix those

dentists push on us.

Also, that was only one small study, and there may be others.

I could be wrong.

Skipper

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>From: Irene.M@...

>Reply-iodine

>So how exactly do you use it? Do you pour the peroxide on your toothbrush?

>Do you mix it with toothpaste?

>Irene

That's how I use it. I gargle with it too and haven't had a sore throat

since I started.

People used to use hydrogen peroxide and baking soda together. I guess that

would get rid of the concerns of it being too acidic, for those who have

that concern.

Every cell in your body already has hydrogen peroxide in it. Of course,

that alone doesn't mean it's good for the teeth, but at least in my case,

they haven't deterioated, in fact, I think they're better off for it.

As a caution, some people say never use hydrogen peroxide if you have

mercury in your mouth. But, I use it anyway and haven't noticed any effects

from it.

Skipper

>

>

>At 07:44 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:

>

>> >From: " Jerry Mittelman "

>><<mailto:jmittelman%40nyc.rr.com>jmittelman@...>

>>

>> >Keep peroxide out of your mouth.

>> > It has a low pH - acidic. . . and will decalcify tooth structure. It

>> >makes exposed root surfaces sensitive and painful, hard to keep clean.

>> >Then the weakened surface is more likely to decay.

>> > Yes, it whitens the enamel, but it also decalcifies and weakens the

>> >enamel's surface - makes it porous and more likely to stain.

>>

>>Maybe.

>>

>>I've brushed my teeth with it for two years now. I haven't needed any

>>dental work since I started, no additional decay.

>>

>>I intentionally started after I had my teeth cleaned. Six months later, I

>>went back for my dentist's inspection and he said they were fine. I did

>>not

>>tell him I used H2O2. He told my grown daughter later, if someone brushes

>>with hydrogen peroxide for a long time, their tongue will turn black.

>>(Mine

>>hasn't incidentally, she could have heard wrong or he could have been

>>joking.)

>>

>>As for pH, I've read the mouth should be around 6.4 (?) I don't know what

>>the pH of 3% hydrogen peroxide is, but I found a table that shows 10% H2O2

>>has a pH of 5.3. So, I'm not sure it's going to be so far acidic that it's

>>likely to cause problems.

>>

>>There's one pub med study that didn't find any difference in

>>decalcification. They used 1.5% H2O2 instead of the household standard 3%,

>>and only had 30 people using it but they found -

>>

>><http://tinyurl.com/krcqz>http://tinyurl.com/krcqz

>>Two-year longitudinal study of a peroxide-fluoride rinse on

>>decalcification

>>in adolescent orthodontic patients.

>>The results showed no significant differences between any of the groups

>>before orthodontic treatment.

>>*****************

>>

>>Of course, maybe the difference was that toxic flouride in the mix those

>>dentists push on us.

>>

>>Also, that was only one small study, and there may be others.

>>

>>I could be wrong.

>>

>>Skipper

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RE: Re: Mercury, Hydrogen Peroxide and Selenium

>From: Irene.Madelphia (DOT) net>Reply-iodine >So how exactly do you use it? Do you pour the peroxide on your toothbrush? >Do you mix it with toothpaste?>IreneThat's how I use it. I gargle with it too and haven't had a sore throat since I started.People used to use hydrogen peroxide and baking soda together. I guess that would get rid of the concerns of it being too acidic, for those who have that concern.Every cell in your body already has hydrogen peroxide in it. Of course, that alone doesn't mean it's good for the teeth, but at least in my case, they haven't deterioated, in fact, I think they're better off for it.As a caution, some people say never use hydrogen peroxide if you have mercury in your mouth. But, I use it anyway and haven't noticed any effects from it.Skipper>>>At 07:44 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote:>>> >From: "Jerry Mittelman" >><<mailto:jmittelman%40nyc.rr.com>jmittelmannyc (DOT) rr.com>>>>> >Keep peroxide out of your mouth.>> > It has a low pH - acidic. . . and will decalcify tooth structure. It>> >makes exposed root surfaces sensitive and painful, hard to keep clean.>> >Then the weakened surface is more likely to decay.>> > Yes, it whitens the enamel, but it also decalcifies and weakens the>> >enamel's surface - makes it porous and more likely to stain.>>>>Maybe.>>>>I've brushed my teeth with it for two years now. I haven't needed any>>dental work since I started, no additional decay.>>>>I intentionally started after I had my teeth cleaned. Six months later, I>>went back for my dentist's inspection and he said they were fine. I did >>not>>tell him I used H2O2. He told my grown daughter later, if someone brushes>>with hydrogen peroxide for a long time, their tongue will turn black. >>(Mine>>hasn't incidentally, she could have heard wrong or he could have been>>joking.)>>>>As for pH, I've read the mouth should be around 6.4 (?) I don't know what>>the pH of 3% hydrogen peroxide is, but I found a table that shows 10% H2O2>>has a pH of 5.3. So, I'm not sure it's going to be so far acidic that it's>>likely to cause problems.>>>>There's one pub med study that didn't find any difference in>>decalcification. They used 1.5% H2O2 instead of the household standard 3%,>>and only had 30 people using it but they found ->>>><http://tinyurl.com/krcqz>http://tinyurl.com/krcqz>>Two-year longitudinal study of a peroxide-fluoride rinse on >>decalcification>>in adolescent orthodontic patients.>>The results showed no significant differences between any of the groups>>before orthodontic treatment.>>*****************>>>>Of course, maybe the difference was that toxic flouride in the mix those>>dentists push on us.>>>>Also, that was only one small study, and there may be others.>>>>I could be wrong.>>>>Skipper>>>>__________________________________________________________>>Check the weather nationwide with MSN Search: Try it now!>><http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weather & FORM=WLMTAG>http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weather & FORM=WLMTAG>>>>__________________________________________________________All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://www.windowsonecare.com/trial.aspx?sc_cid=msn_hotmail

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Skipper Beers wrote:

> That's how I use it. I gargle with it too and haven't had a sore throat

> since I started.

>

> People used to use hydrogen peroxide and baking soda together. I guess that

> would get rid of the concerns of it being too acidic, for those who have

> that concern.

>

Hydrogen peroxide isn't acidic though: it's a bleach or oxidizing

agent. Not

to be picky, but there are a few chemical definitions involved

in this discussion (this is the cliff note version: see wikipedia for the

full rundown).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_(chemistry)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxidizer

Acid: Has extra H+ when dissolved in water

Alkali: Has extra OH- when dissolved in water

Bleach: Donates an O++ to another molecule in a reaction.

Alkali does not, AFAIK, harm teeth: baking soda is alkali

and it makes a great dentifrice. Teeth tend to react to acids,

which is why the bacteria that glom onto your teeth are

problematic, they secrete lactic acid.

Hydrogen peroxide though, is a bleach: peroxide is what

they use in the bleaching-tray systems to make your

teeth whiter. There seems to be some controversy

as to the safety of that, but it makes sense to me that

bleach would change the enamel (well shoot, that's the

whole point of bleaching one's teeth!):

http://www.cda-adc.ca/jcda/vol-66/issue-8/421.html

Scanning electron microscopy studies^6,16,19,20,31 have shown that a

concentration of 10% carbamide peroxide alters enamel, causing surface

dissolution and exposing a porous surface. In these studies, the

untreated enamel was also smoother than the enamel treated with the

bleaching agent. There was also a trend for the microhardness of enamel

surfaces to initially decrease when the enamel was exposed to the

bleaching agents.^19 Haywood and others^12 presented contradicting

evidence that there were no significant differences in surface texture

between enamel treated with 10% carbamide peroxide and enamel stored in

distilled water. Other side effects such as increased tooth sensitivity

to temperature and gingival irritation have been reported when using a

bleaching tray for vital bleaching.^4,9-11,14,15

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1678-77572005000200021 & script=sci_arttext

Evaluation of groups submitted to 35% carbamide peroxide was carried out

after two time intervals (30 minutes and 2 hours per session), following

the extreme situations recommended by the manufacturer. Specimens were

prepared for SEM analysis performing gold sputter coating under vacuum

and were examined using 15kV at 500x and 2000x magnification. Results:

Morphological alterations on the enamel surface were similarly detected

after bleaching with either 35% carbamide peroxide or 35% hydrogen

peroxide. Surface porosities were characteristic of an erosive process

that took place on human enamel. Depression areas, including the

formation of craters, and exposure of enamel rods could also be

detected. Conclusion: Bleaching effects on enamel morphology were

randomly distributed throughout enamel surface and various degrees of

enamel damage could be noticed. Clinical significance: In-office

bleaching materials may adversely affect enamel morphology and therefore

should be used with caution.

^

but for mouth-swishing, I'd worry more about other effects. It is true

that you have peroxide all over your body ... but it's

also true that this peroxide, esp. when it isn't

cleared out effectively, causes oxidative damage.

Bleaches cause weird chemical reactions. H2O2 does

kill off a lot of microbes, which is really helpful

to some people. It seems to make the area more

open to other infections though, in my experience,

though I'm not sure why, which is why I switched

to neem (which doesn't have any negative side

effects that I've experienced or seen reported).

As for salt ... salt isn't acidic, or basic, it's neutral. It does

seem to help in the mouth: it's an effective

gargle when you have a sore throat, and it

changes the microbial population, I think!

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>From: Heidi <heidis@...>

>Hydrogen peroxide isn't acidic though

??It does have an acidic pH. The neutral pH of water is 7.0, the pH of 3%

hydrogen peroxide is somewhere over 5, but hard to find a definitive level.

(They don't seel pH strips in drug stores, I was suprised to learn.)

>Hydrogen peroxide though, is a bleach

It's a bleach in the sense it can whiten, but is different than the chemical

forumula for household bleach or chlorine bleach. But yes, it can whiten

things.

http://www.drbasko.com/newsletter1004.htm

" -For the treatment or prevention of gum disease apply the following

mix to the gums and teeth:

1 tablespoon of aloe vera gel

1 tablespoon of hydrogen peroxide

1 teaspoon of baking soda

Why not tooth paste?

Most toothpaste is made up of 60% glycerin which will stick to teeth for a

long time and cause food particles and bacteria to create plaque. Many

brands for pets contain sugar, and acids which may increase plaque with

use. "

I won't use fluoride toothpaste any more, and H2O2 has done just fine for

me. Maybe it kills the bacteria that causes tooth decay? It hasn't caused

any harm I can see.

>As for salt ... salt isn't acidic, or basic, it's neutral. It does

>seem to help in the mouth: it's an effective

>gargle when you have a sore throat, and it

>changes the microbial population, I think!

I've read once, if you periodically brushed with salt, it would get rid of

plaque and you wouldn't need cleanings.

Did you know it was the toothpaste companies and not the dentist that came

up with the twice yearly cleaning appointments? The dentists jumped on that

one. A dental hygenist told me that.

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I haven't been following, but was very interested in this formula:

" -For the treatment or prevention of gum disease apply the following mix to the gums and teeth:1 tablespoon of aloe vera gel1 tablespoon of hydrogen peroxide1 teaspoon of baking soda

Were you recommending it for PEOPLE? It appears to have come from a vet page. Just curious.

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>From: " King's Song " <melanie@...>

>I haven't been following, but was very interested in this formula:

>

> " -For the treatment or prevention of gum disease apply the following

>mix to the gums and teeth:

>1 tablespoon of aloe vera gel

>1 tablespoon of hydrogen peroxide

>1 teaspoon of baking soda

>

>Were you recommending it for PEOPLE? It appears to have come from a vet

>page. Just curious.

In the thread, I was telling people I brush my teeth with hydrogen peroxide.

One person points out it can cause decalcification.

Anyway, I use hydrogen peroxide for tooth brushing, my teeth haven't

disintegrated since I started a couple years ago, and I have seen the above

formula recommended for people to.

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King's Song <melanie@...> wrote: I haven't been following, but was very interested in this formula: " -For the treatment or prevention of gum disease apply the following mix to the gums and teeth:1 tablespoon of aloe vera gel1 tablespoon of hydrogen peroxide1 teaspoon of baking soda Were you recommending it for PEOPLE? It appears to have come from a vet page. Just curious. =========================== I've been using safeguard bar soap to brush my teeth and my gums

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>From: " Suzanne " <gddsssuze@...>

>This formula is probably ok if you do not have any metal in your

>mouth. Also, the hydrogen peroxide should be a diluted 35% food grade

>solution. This is important and should be add to the formula.

I hope nobody tried using that without diluting it to 3%, as 35% is fatal.

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" Fatal or near-fatal hydrogen peroxide ingestions are rarely encountered. " If

you drink 8 oz of

35% percent it may kill you within 3 days. IMO the warnings are another example

of the FDA trying

to stop and scare people using alternative cures for disease. I am sure

quackwatch has a big

spread on it.... which would mean it as some validity.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=2\

735599 & dopt=Abstract

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/125/116084.htm

known cases

Fatal doses:

Ingestion:

Ingestion of 240 mL of 35% hydrogen peroxide

in a 49 year old female caused death in 78

hours later (Litovitz et al., 1995).

Intravenous:

0.8mL of a 35% solution diluted in 200mL

normal saline (0.14% of hydrogen peroxide)

once daily for 5 days in a 50 year old male

(Leikin et al., 1993).

2mL (strength unknown) in a dialysis catheter

caused abdominal pain, hypertension, collapse

and coma within 1 hour. She made some

improvement with hyperbaric oxygen by the 8th

day, then had a cardiac arrest and

convulsions. She recovered in the following

week and then had another cardiac arrest and

died 19 days post-injection (Litovitz et al.,

1997).

7.2.1.2 Children

Fatal doses:

Ingestion:

225 mL of 3% in a 16 month old, he was found

dead 10 hours later (Cina et al., 1994).

About 100 to 170 mL of 35% in a 2 year old,

taken off life-support 4 days later with

hypoxic encephalopathy (Christensen et al.,

1992).

Intravenous:

100mL of 3% hydrogen peroxide in a 7 month

old child (Lubec et al., 1996).

--- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

> >From: " Suzanne " <gddsssuze@...>

>

> >This formula is probably ok if you do not have any metal in your

> >mouth. Also, the hydrogen peroxide should be a diluted 35% food grade

> >solution. This is important and should be add to the formula.

>

> I hope nobody tried using that without diluting it to 3%, as 35% is fatal.

>

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Just like they are trying to make it sound

like it is unimportant to put viruses on our food!! I sent the notice to a

friend of mine that were doing that to meats and sent a letter to the FDA. She

got a response back acting like it was not big deal and the virus just killed

the listeria on the meats. I guess time will tell what it will do the human

body.

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Subject: RE: Re: Mercury,

Hydrogen Peroxide and Selenium

" Fatal

or near-fatal hydrogen peroxide ingestions are rarely encountered. "

If you drink 8 oz of

35% percent it may kill you within 3 days. IMO the warnings are another example

of the FDA trying

to stop and scare people using alternative cures for disease. I am sure

quackwatch has a big

spread on it.... which would mean it as some validity.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=2735599 & dopt=Abstract

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/125/116084.htm

known cases

Fatal doses:

Ingestion:

Ingestion of 240 mL of 35% hydrogen peroxide

in a 49 year old female caused death in 78

hours later (Litovitz et al., 1995).

Intravenous:

0.8mL of a 35% solution diluted in 200mL

normal saline (0.14% of hydrogen peroxide)

once daily for 5 days in a 50 year old male

(Leikin et al., 1993).

2mL (strength unknown) in a dialysis catheter

caused abdominal pain, hypertension, collapse

and coma within 1 hour. She made some

improvement with hyperbaric oxygen by the 8th

day, then had a cardiac arrest and

convulsions. She recovered in the following

week and then had another cardiac arrest and

died 19 days post-injection (Litovitz et al.,

1997).

7.2.1.2 Children

Fatal doses:

Ingestion:

225 mL of 3% in a 16 month old, he was found

dead 10 hours later (Cina et al., 1994).

About 100 to 170 mL of 35% in a 2 year old,

taken off life-support 4 days later with

hypoxic encephalopathy (Christensen et al.,

1992).

Intravenous:

100mL of 3% hydrogen peroxide in a 7 month

old child (Lubec et al., 1996).

--- Skipper Beers <lsb149hotmail>

wrote:

> >From: " Suzanne " <gddsssuze >

>

> >This formula is probably ok if you do not have any metal in your

> >mouth. Also, the hydrogen peroxide should be a diluted 35% food grade

> >solution. This is important and should be add to the formula.

>

> I hope nobody tried using that without diluting it to 3%, as 35% is fatal.

>

> Skipper

>

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>From: <kennio@...>

> " Fatal or near-fatal hydrogen peroxide ingestions are rarely encountered. "

>If you drink 8 oz of

>35% percent it may kill you within 3 days. IMO the warnings are another

>example of the FDA trying

Even the alternative web sites may warn against ingesting too high a

percentage.

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Skipper Beers wrote:

>> Hydrogen peroxide isn't acidic though

>>

>

> ??It does have an acidic pH. The neutral pH of water is 7.0, the pH of 3%

> hydrogen peroxide is somewhere over 5, but hard to find a definitive level.

> (They don't seel pH strips in drug stores, I was suprised to learn.)

>

It might depend on the solution. They mention bleaching solutions come

in widely varying PH's. And the H2O2 breaks down as it is stored. In

theory it should be neutral?

> It's a bleach in the sense it can whiten, but is different than the chemical

> forumula for household bleach or chlorine bleach. But yes, it can whiten

> things.

>

I meant " bleach " as in " oxidizing agent " . It donates an oxygen atom in

reactions (which is how

bleaches do the whitening).

An acid, like HCl, donates an H+. An alkali, like NaOH, donates an OH-.

H2O2 could donate an H+ or an OH-, but it's not really either an acid or

a base per se, in the context of being afraid of it being too acidic.

The reaction it would have with items in your mouth are (at least the

ones I'd worry about) the ones where it donates an O. I mean, I drink

lemon juice and eat pickles, both of which are very acidic, but I don't

worry about them especially. Oxidizers I would be more concerned with.

> I won't use fluoride toothpaste any more, and H2O2 has done just fine for

> me. Maybe it kills the bacteria that causes tooth decay? It hasn't caused

> any harm I can see.

>

I don't know that it causes harm either ... I didn't get hurt by it when

I used it for tooth surgery. It seems that, in theory, it might cause

harm, even though a lot of people swear by it, so it's an individual

decision, like most things! I do know that neem works better, in terms

of keeping your teeth clean, and isn't so reactive, so that's what I

choose to use.

>> As for salt ... salt isn't acidic, or basic, it's neutral. It does

>> seem to help in the mouth: it's an effective

>> gargle when you have a sore throat, and it

>> changes the microbial population, I think!

>>

>

> I've read once, if you periodically brushed with salt, it would get rid of

> plaque and you wouldn't need cleanings.

>

Yeah, salt is good stuff, in my book. Someone said it was acidic

though, which it is not.

> Did you know it was the toothpaste companies and not the dentist that came

> up with the twice yearly cleaning appointments? The dentists jumped on that

> one. A dental hygenist told me that.

>

I'm not sure who came up with it, but it has been studied by people

other than the toothpaste companies. People who floss don't do any

better if they get 2x yearly cleanings, but people who don't floss get

gum disease more if they don't get cleanings. I think it depends what

you eat too. I don't get much plaque anymore, and my gums came back

after receding for awhile, so I stopped getting them cleaned so often.

Also my dd used to have weak enamel, and THAT hardened up, so I feel

more secure about her too. Some people though, really do need to keep a

close eye on their teeth (my dd used to get lots of cavities).

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fillings but not all of them. Don't take care of your

teeth and then try having a root canal with no pain

relief. There are documented cases (somewhere) that a

man had an infected tooth he didn't have extracted and

the infection went to his brain nand he died a painful

death, yes it's rare but it can happen. Do you think

dentures are a good idea, I think not!!!

--- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

> >From: Heidi <heidis@...>

>

> >It might depend on the solution. They mention

> bleaching solutions come

> >in widely varying PH's. And the H2O2 breaks down as

> it is stored. In

> >theory it should be neutral?

>

> I saw a chart for different percentages of peroxide.

> It started at 10% and

> it was slightly over 5, the higher the percentage

> the lower the pH. But, if

> 10% is over 5, then 3% should be not that too

> distant from the pH the mouth

> is supposed to be, I think 6.2.

>

> and my gums came back

> >after receding for awhile,

>

> They came back? I've been wondering if mine had.

> Since I started using cod

> liver oil and iodine my teeth feel a whole lot

> better too.

>

> >so I stopped getting them cleaned so often.

>

> Yeah, I'm not so sure how important it is. I think

> the medical profession

> is bad, but the dental profession may do even

> greater harm with their

> pushing of fluoride and mercury. If they lie about

> that, why would they

> tell the truth about the benefit of cleaning teeth?

>

> Skipper

>

>

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>From: dorothy hayes <wizofoz98@...>

>Come on you guys, DON'T HAVE YOUR TEETH CLEANED! just

>use common sense.

You don't need teeth cleaned twice a year, that's a gift the toothpaste

companies gave the dentists in their ads.

I think how often you need them cleaned depends on the individual.

Hal Huggins (I think founder of the anti-mercury movement) said if you

occaissonal use salt to brush with, you probably won't need your teeth

cleaned.

It is worth a try. But, good dental health and hygiene is very important to

overall health. But, I think people recognize when their teeth really need

a good cleaning.

Skipper

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