Re: iodine and cortisol levels

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OH BOY!!

When I read your post all the alarms and red flags went off. I too cannot sleep when taking 50 mgs. Iodoral. I've been up all night since I started. This didn't used to happen when I was taking 12.5 or 25 mgs. per day. I have been trying to figure out why the heck I'm up all night and now you've helped me figure it out. I am going to reduce my dose back to 12.5 I think for a week or so and then try 25 and see what happens with sleep.

iodine and cortisol levels

Does iodine increase cortisol levels indirectly? Ever since I started the iodine (and even now that I am not on it), I have nights where I don't sleep. I am taking 200 mg each of 5-HTP and theanine. This helps 9 out of 10 nights; however I still have about 1 in 10 nights that I don't sleep. I don't mean I toss and turn and get a few hours of sleep. I mean that I am up ALL night just laying there.

I notice it seems to be if I am not sleeping by 10, then I am very likely to be up all night. Also, if something upsetting happens in the evening, like I get really angry with someone, I am very likely to be up all night.

In the past, if I were up past 10, I would be up until 1-2, probably due to elevated nighttime cortisol. Now it is ALL night. What the heck is up with that?!!! I also feel very mentally wired all night while I am laying there. Maybe I need to get my cortisol rechecked...but I am fine most of the time...

Thanks,

Olif...who now has to go to work after not sleeping a wink last night. I feel great, until I crash in the early/late afternoon. :-(

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"When I read your post all the alarms and red flags went off. I too cannot sleep when taking 50 mgs. Iodoral. I've been up all night since I started."

Yeah, but I STOPPED the iodine, and it still happens! :-(

-Olif

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What are you taking for supplements/adrenal support/hormones/etc.,

Olif? What were the results of your cortisol test, the last time you

took it?

I found I slept better when I started taking Lugol's. But I had low

cortisol in the afternoon & night. I would have to take a nap at 3pm.

It took forever for me to fall asleep, even if I went to bed at

1030pm. I'd wake up every night at 4pm & take hours to fall back

asleep. I'd sleep 10 hours & still not feel rested.

The Luguol's, Isocort & adrenal support cleared that up for me. I'm

sleeping great now, feel rested after 8 hours, don't wake up in the

middle of the night & automatically self-awake between 630-730am.

I've been able to stop taking the Isocort recently.

>

> Does iodine increase cortisol levels indirectly? Ever since I

started the iodine (and even now that I am not on it), I have nights

where I don't sleep. I am taking 200 mg each of 5-HTP and theanine.

This helps 9 out of 10 nights; however I still have about 1 in 10

nights that I don't sleep. I don't mean I toss and turn and get a few

hours of sleep. I mean that I am up ALL night just laying there.

>

> I notice it seems to be if I am not sleeping by 10, then I am very

likely to be up all night. Also, if something upsetting happens in

the evening, like I get really angry with someone, I am very likely

to be up all night.

>

> In the past, if I were up past 10, I would be up until 1-2,

probably due to elevated nighttime cortisol. Now it is ALL night.

What the heck is up with that?!!! I also feel very mentally wired all

night while I am laying there. Maybe I need to get my cortisol

rechecked...but I am fine most of the time...

>

> Thanks,

> Olif...who now has to go to work after not sleeping a wink last

night. I feel great, until I crash in the early/late afternoon. :-(

>

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> Does iodine increase cortisol levels indirectly? Ever since I

started the iodine (and even now that I am not on it), I have nights

where I don't sleep. I am taking 200 mg each of 5-HTP and theanine.

This helps 9 out of 10 nights; however I still have about 1 in 10

nights that I don't sleep. I don't mean I toss and turn and get a few

hours of sleep. I mean that I am up ALL night just laying there.

------> I've had this problem occasionally but it's practically gone now.

What support minerals are you taking? Do you think you need to

increase those or try varying the times you take them.

This is what appears to be working for me right now at bedtime...

1 tsp of 2500mgs buffered vit C (with 275mgs Mag and 425 msgs Ca)

1-2 tryptophans.

If I take more Mag I can't get out of bed in the morning...more

calcium and i tend to get cramps.

Also have been using some nigari (mag chloride) baths at night. Epsom

salts are similar. Also can't do too much of that and or I have muscle

fatigue in the morning.

One thing I did notice is if I take anything with silica in it too

late I can get wired. I stopped my zeolite drops at night and use them

in the AM. It's an odd kind of wired...not hyper like caffiene just my

mind seems just too turned on thinking.

Lynn

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Mercola's VitE and a cap. of borage oil just before bed seems to take care of that problem for me, I dont know why but it works, sandraLynn <lyn122@...> wrote: > Does iodine increase cortisol levels indirectly? Ever since Istarted the iodine (and even now that I am not on it), I have nightswhere I don't sleep. I am taking 200 mg each of 5-HTP and theanine.This helps 9 out of 10 nights; however I still have about 1 in 10nights that I don't sleep. I don't mean I toss and turn and get a fewhours of

sleep. I mean that I am up ALL night just laying there. ------> I've had this problem occasionally but it's practically gone now.What support minerals are you taking? Do you think you need toincrease those or try varying the times you take them.This is what appears to be working for me right now at bedtime...1 tsp of 2500mgs buffered vit C (with 275mgs Mag and 425 msgs Ca)1-2 tryptophans. If I take more Mag I can't get out of bed in the morning...morecalcium and i tend to get cramps.Also have been using some nigari (mag chloride) baths at night. Epsomsalts are similar. Also can't do too much of that and or I have musclefatigue in the morning.One thing I did notice is if I take anything with silica in it toolate I can get wired. I stopped my zeolite drops at night and use themin the AM. It's an odd kind of wired...not hyper like caffiene just mymind seems just too turned on

thinking.Lynn

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"It's an odd kind of wired...not hyper like caffiene just mymind seems just too turned on thinking."

Yeah, my mind was really racing, just wouldn't stop so I could sleep!

At night I take 2 Thorne multi's, 200 mg 5-HTP, 200 mg theanine, 275 mg magnesium.

My cortisol was really low throughout the day the last time I had it tested and my DHEA was high. I was in advanced stages of AF. That was in August though. For adrenal support, I take 500 mg tyrosine in the a.m. along with pantathenic acid, rhodiola, and recently licorice tinture (I started this after having sleeping problems, so it isn't causing it). I also take tyrosine in the early afternoon, if I can remember to take it. I take plenty of C throughout the day and other vits and mins.

I am not taking any iodine right now (for about 3 weeks), but the problems did start at the time I was taking iodine. I quickly realized that I had to take my iodine in the a.m. or I would be up all night. My thyroid is still swollen too. I am wondering if I am starting to go back and forth from hypo to hyper, because some nights my feet are really, really hot yet they are always cold during the day. Either that or my night time cortisol is now elevated.

I read somewhere that the thyroid hormones are needed for cortisol. Oh, it was in Feeling Fat, Fuzzy, or Frizzled. It didn't get into too much detail, though, about how they are related. The book is upstairs and I am too lazy to get it and too tired to understand it even if I did get it. :-)

Thanks,

Olif

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Greetings to all! I have just joined your group, and I am pleased to have

the opportunity to learn from you guys. I have suffered from fibrocystic

breasts and ovaries, as well as excruciatingly painful menstrual cycles, for

most of my adult life. Mammogram scares...needle biopsies...the whole

enchilada. The last several years, the cysts have become larger, more

numerous and more painful. In 2004, one ovarian cyst (that I didn't know I

had) burst, and I have never experienced so much pain in my entire life.

My hands and feet are constantly cold, and my metabolism seems to be

bottoming out...or at least heading that direction. At age 40, other than

these 'symptoms' and a need to lose 40 pounds that I have gained just in the

last three years, I feel great. The conventional med doctors just threw

their hands in the air...convinced that I was consuming large amounts of

caffeine (I am a water drinker). That was their only answer to my issues.

I gave up on seeing MDs three years ago.

I am very interested in learning more about iodine deficiency, and, thus,

the reason I am here. Thanks! I will be ordering Dr. B's book today to

start me on the self-educational journey.

I want to contribute to this thread of posts concerning potassium:

" I know when potassium supplements are given, they are generally combined

with a diuretic "

Through my experience with my fiancé's health issues, we found that the

potassium-diuretic connection is the other way around. That is, when a

diuretic is prescribed - as is often to treat high blood pressure - K

supplements are also prescribed because K is (and other vital

minerals/electrolytes) lost in the urine, often at high rates.

My fiancé suffered a minor stroke and an acute onset epileptic seizure last

summer partly due to an extremely low level of serum K, which also indicates

an even lower level of cellular K. The reason that he had such a dangerous

level of K is that he had let his blood sugar get out of hand and was

urinating quite frequently all day and night for several weeks.

When one frequently pees (with or without a diuretic), there is often a need

for supplementation, in addition to adequate hydration, to keep the

electrolytes in balance. This is the same for athletes who heavily

perspire...OK...they sweat. =)

In short, when a diuretic is prescribed to treat a condition, often K

supplementation is also prescribed to help maintain the electrolyte balance,

not the other way around.

Very best to all!

dena

Re: iodine and cortisol levels

Posted by: " Olif " OVanPelt@... olifmary

Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:57 pm (PST)

" I know when potassium supplements are given, they are generally combined

with a diuretic "

Hmmm...I am retaining water too! I have been since I started the iodine. How

do I get rid of it?! I haven't taken the iodine for 3 weeks, except the

small amount in my multi.

Thanks,

Olif

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Hi Dena. Welcome to the group. I recently joined to learn about iodine

and failed to mention to the group about the breast cancer in my

family. Anwyas, you might want to also join the Natural Thyroid

Hormones group at . Not sure of the exact adress (memory problems

LOL) but I'm sure someone can post it. Have you had your TSH, FT3 and

FT4 tested? You sound low thyroid but I understand that iodine

supplementation works for some as well. Just a suggestion. Carol B

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Welcome Dena!! I too had fibrous masses in my right breast along with cysts

on my ovaries. I was dx'd with thyroid cancer 7 years ago which is also

tied to iodine deficiency. My Dr. is Dr. Brownstein so I am blessed to have

excellent care. My iodine was completely depleted when tested and he placed

me on 50 mgs of Iodoral. My cysts and fibrous masses are now gone. I

swear by Iodine. Oh and my cancer markers are down 10 pts too.

Re: iodine and cortisol levels

> Greetings to all! I have just joined your group, and I am pleased to have

> the opportunity to learn from you guys. I have suffered from fibrocystic

> breasts and ovaries, as well as excruciatingly painful menstrual cycles,

> for

> most of my adult life. Mammogram scares...needle biopsies...the whole

> enchilada. The last several years, the cysts have become larger, more

> numerous and more painful. In 2004, one ovarian cyst (that I didn't know

> I

> had) burst, and I have never experienced so much pain in my entire life.

>

> My hands and feet are constantly cold, and my metabolism seems to be

> bottoming out...or at least heading that direction. At age 40, other than

> these 'symptoms' and a need to lose 40 pounds that I have gained just in

> the

> last three years, I feel great. The conventional med doctors just threw

> their hands in the air...convinced that I was consuming large amounts of

> caffeine (I am a water drinker). That was their only answer to my issues.

> I gave up on seeing MDs three years ago.

>

> I am very interested in learning more about iodine deficiency, and, thus,

> the reason I am here. Thanks! I will be ordering Dr. B's book today to

> start me on the self-educational journey.

>

> I want to contribute to this thread of posts concerning potassium:

>

> " I know when potassium supplements are given, they are generally combined

> with a diuretic "

>

> Through my experience with my fiancé's health issues, we found that the

> potassium-diuretic connection is the other way around. That is, when a

> diuretic is prescribed - as is often to treat high blood pressure - K

> supplements are also prescribed because K is (and other vital

> minerals/electrolytes) lost in the urine, often at high rates.

>

> My fiancé suffered a minor stroke and an acute onset epileptic seizure

> last

> summer partly due to an extremely low level of serum K, which also

> indicates

> an even lower level of cellular K. The reason that he had such a

> dangerous

> level of K is that he had let his blood sugar get out of hand and was

> urinating quite frequently all day and night for several weeks.

>

> When one frequently pees (with or without a diuretic), there is often a

> need

> for supplementation, in addition to adequate hydration, to keep the

> electrolytes in balance. This is the same for athletes who heavily

> perspire...OK...they sweat. =)

>

> In short, when a diuretic is prescribed to treat a condition, often K

> supplementation is also prescribed to help maintain the electrolyte

> balance,

> not the other way around.

>

> Very best to all!

> dena

>

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> Re: iodine and cortisol levels

> Posted by: " Olif " OVanPelt@... olifmary

> Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:57 pm (PST)

> " I know when potassium supplements are given, they are generally combined

> with a diuretic "

>

> Hmmm...I am retaining water too! I have been since I started the iodine.

> How

> do I get rid of it?! I haven't taken the iodine for 3 weeks, except the

> small amount in my multi.

>

> Thanks,

> Olif

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