Help w/iodine and Hashimotos

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone--

I have been on 50mgs of iodoral for approximately

three weeks. I pretty much jumped right in with the

dosage: one tablet the first day, two the second;

then right on with the 50mg the third day.

I had my TSH tested last week, along with a host of

other hormone levels. I was surprised that my TSH

jumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.

I have Hashimotos.

I believe I had read some posts that indicated people

with Hashimotos should be careful with dosing iodoral,

but other posts that said 'no problem' with taking

iodine. Since I had a goiter, I figured I might as

well take the iodine. Could the 50mgs have been too

much and is it possible that it is stressing my

thyroid and making me more hypo?

thanks.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I don't know how iodine could stress your thyroid gland! I don't understand why but TSH seems to rise on Iodoral. I should check mine I guess b/c it has been .06 and even very low without thyroid meds. I don't thnk you should worry if you are feeling OK, do you take thyroid meds? I think Brownstien recommends iodine for hashis.

Gracia

Hi everyone--I have been on 50mgs of iodoral for approximatelythree weeks. I pretty much jumped right in with thedosage: one tablet the first day, two the second;then right on with the 50mg the third day.I had my TSH tested last week, along with a host ofother hormone levels. I was surprised that my TSHjumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.I have Hashimotos. I believe I had read some posts that indicated peoplewith Hashimotos should be careful with dosing iodoral,but other posts that said 'no problem' with takingiodine. Since I had a goiter, I figured I might aswell take the iodine. Could the 50mgs have been toomuch and is it possible that it is stressing mythyroid and making me more hypo?thanks.__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

No, I am not on thyroid meds since I decided to put

all my hopes in iodoral to begin. I had no idea

taking it might raise my TSH. I can't say I feel all

that great since I'm anemic, low in B12, and cortisol.

too much to keep track of, really.

I was concerned that I might be inducing hypo

symptoms.

--- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> I don't know how iodine could stress your thyroid

> gland! I don't understand why but TSH seems to rise

> on Iodoral. I should check mine I guess b/c it has

> been .06 and even very low without thyroid meds. I

> don't thnk you should worry if you are feeling OK,

> do you take thyroid meds? I think Brownstien

> recommends iodine for hashis.

> Gracia

>

> Hi everyone--

>

> I have been on 50mgs of iodoral for approximately

> three weeks. I pretty much jumped right in with

> the

> dosage: one tablet the first day, two the second;

> then right on with the 50mg the third day.

>

> I had my TSH tested last week, along with a host

> of

> other hormone levels. I was surprised that my TSH

> jumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.

> I have Hashimotos.

>

> I believe I had read some posts that indicated

> people

> with Hashimotos should be careful with dosing

> iodoral,

> but other posts that said 'no problem' with taking

> iodine. Since I had a goiter, I figured I might as

> well take the iodine. Could the 50mgs have been

> too

> much and is it possible that it is stressing my

> thyroid and making me more hypo?

> thanks.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I really would not worry about it. I had more hypo symptoms when I first started Iodoral and I don't know why, but it is worth taking.

Gracia

No, I am not on thyroid meds since I decided to putall my hopes in iodoral to begin. I had no ideataking it might raise my TSH. I can't say I feel allthat great since I'm anemic, low in B12, and cortisol.too much to keep track of, really. I was concerned that I might be inducing hyposymptoms.--- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:> > I don't know how iodine could stress your thyroid> gland! I don't understand why but TSH seems to rise> on Iodoral. I should check mine I guess b/c it has> been .06 and even very low without thyroid meds. I> don't thnk you should worry if you are feeling OK,> do you take thyroid meds? I think Brownstien> recommends iodine for hashis.> Gracia> > Hi everyone--> > I have been on 50mgs of iodoral for approximately> three weeks. I pretty much jumped right in with> the> dosage: one tablet the first day, two the second;> then right on with the 50mg the third day.> > I had my TSH tested last week, along with a host> of> other hormone levels. I was surprised that my TSH> jumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.> I have Hashimotos. > > I believe I had read some posts that indicated> people> with Hashimotos should be careful with dosing> iodoral,> but other posts that said 'no problem' with taking> iodine. Since I had a goiter, I figured I might as> well take the iodine. Could the 50mgs have been> too> much and is it possible that it is stressing my> thyroid and making me more hypo?> thanks.__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

a possibility is you are getting to much iodine and going hypo

because of it, hence the rise in tsh

you can cut tablets right down like 1/20th or so, even down to 1/50th

not exact but you just sort of eye it and get the hang of it

also iodine use by the body is a biochemical chain, you need other

minerals etc in place to covert from t4 to t3, place it properly in

the thyroid, right through to mito switching in the cells

then there are cell permeability issues

but imo 50mg is way over the top

the trouble with hormone supplementation is the body is continually

scaling each hormone in relation to oethrs and its a very dynamic

process that taking hormones doesn't match, especially in respect of

synthroid and brain blood flow

this is why estrogen supplementation doesn't work

my compendium approach with its fine detail supplementation feeds the

natural pathways of the body, its complex but there is no other way

to get the body to start to work on that scaling again

unless the thyroid is so damaged or is removed or rai'ed in which

case you need hormones, but even then you have to supplement for

further downstream utilisation of iodine

>

> Hi everyone--

>

> I have been on 50mgs of iodoral for approximately

> three weeks. I pretty much jumped right in with the

> dosage: one tablet the first day, two the second;

> then right on with the 50mg the third day.

>

> I had my TSH tested last week, along with a host of

> other hormone levels. I was surprised that my TSH

> jumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.

> I have Hashimotos.

>

> I believe I had read some posts that indicated people

> with Hashimotos should be careful with dosing iodoral,

> but other posts that said 'no problem' with taking

> iodine. Since I had a goiter, I figured I might as

> well take the iodine. Could the 50mgs have been too

> much and is it possible that it is stressing my

> thyroid and making me more hypo?

> thanks.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Are you taking the other supplements that Brownstein advises like magnesium and

vitamin C? How

about sea salt? I strongly suggest therapeutic dosing of EPA/DHA including cod

liver oil. An

essential fatty acid found in high levels in the thyroid and useful in

rejuvenating and defatting

the liver called Phosphatidylcholine could also be useful to you.

Are you working to cure the other deficiencies you noted in your post? I have

Hashi's and started

right in with 50 mg and felt minimal effects only later to find out I was not

absorbing it. Now

on 100 mg I do believe I am absorbing it and detoxing effectively with a much

higher salt, vitamin

and mineral intake. My body is under some stress with this much iodine and the

need for minerals

is very high right now...could be the same with you. Are you taking a really

good multi?

--- Regis <vegan_mamma@...> wrote:

> No, I am not on thyroid meds since I decided to put

> all my hopes in iodoral to begin. I had no idea

> taking it might raise my TSH. I can't say I feel all

> that great since I'm anemic, low in B12, and cortisol.

> too much to keep track of, really.

> I was concerned that I might be inducing hypo

> symptoms.

>

> --- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > I don't know how iodine could stress your thyroid

> > gland! I don't understand why but TSH seems to rise

> > on Iodoral. I should check mine I guess b/c it has

> > been .06 and even very low without thyroid meds. I

> > don't thnk you should worry if you are feeling OK,

> > do you take thyroid meds? I think Brownstien

> > recommends iodine for hashis.

> > Gracia

> >

> > Hi everyone--

> >

> > I have been on 50mgs of iodoral for approximately

> > three weeks. I pretty much jumped right in with

> > the

> > dosage: one tablet the first day, two the second;

> > then right on with the 50mg the third day.

> >

> > I had my TSH tested last week, along with a host

> > of

> > other hormone levels. I was surprised that my TSH

> > jumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.

> > I have Hashimotos.

> >

> > I believe I had read some posts that indicated

> > people

> > with Hashimotos should be careful with dosing

> > iodoral,

> > but other posts that said 'no problem' with taking

> > iodine. Since I had a goiter, I figured I might as

> > well take the iodine. Could the 50mgs have been

> > too

> > much and is it possible that it is stressing my

> > thyroid and making me more hypo?

> > thanks.

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

--- Regis <vegan_mamma@...> wrote:

>

> I had my TSH tested last week, along with a host of

> other hormone levels. I was surprised that my TSH

> jumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.

> I have Hashimotos.

This is interesting. I seem to recall reading

somewhere that elevated TSH can result from using

iodine products. Yet, it does not seem to make sense

systemically. I mean why would iodine increase TSH?

Abbe

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I wish I could agree with Gracia here but unfortunately I can't. I

now have highly elevated thyroglobulin antibodies and hyper symptoms

after starting iodine in January.

There are lots of things we don't know yet about iodine - especially

when happens when it interacts with damaged thyroids and possible

mineral deficiencies (besides selenium and magnesium).

I'm not at the point where I can make any recommendations on this

topic at all but I do think we all need to balance risks and

benefits individually as one size clearly is not fitting all.

Sharon

> I really would not worry about it. I had more hypo symptoms

when I first started Iodoral and I don't know why, but it is worth

taking.

> Gracia

>

> No, I am not on thyroid meds since I decided to put

> all my hopes in iodoral to begin. I had no idea

> taking it might raise my TSH. I can't say I feel all

> that great since I'm anemic, low in B12, and cortisol.

> too much to keep track of, really.

> I was concerned that I might be inducing hypo

> symptoms.

>

> --- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > I don't know how iodine could stress your thyroid

> > gland! I don't understand why but TSH seems to rise

> > on Iodoral. I should check mine I guess b/c it has

> > been .06 and even very low without thyroid meds. I

> > don't thnk you should worry if you are feeling OK,

> > do you take thyroid meds? I think Brownstien

> > recommends iodine for hashis.

> > Gracia

> >

> > Hi everyone--

> >

> > I have been on 50mgs of iodoral for approximately

> > three weeks. I pretty much jumped right in with

> > the

> > dosage: one tablet the first day, two the second;

> > then right on with the 50mg the third day.

> >

> > I had my TSH tested last week, along with a host

> > of

> > other hormone levels. I was surprised that my TSH

> > jumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.

> > I have Hashimotos.

> >

> > I believe I had read some posts that indicated

> > people

> > with Hashimotos should be careful with dosing

> > iodoral,

> > but other posts that said 'no problem' with taking

> > iodine. Since I had a goiter, I figured I might as

> > well take the iodine. Could the 50mgs have been

> > too

> > much and is it possible that it is stressing my

> > thyroid and making me more hypo?

> > thanks.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

theres quite a long chain of biochemistry from absorption or

ingestion of iodine to getting into the cells where needed

any disruption of that is going to create backlogs, maybe in T4 and

rT3

i applied iodine for years only tolerating small amounts before i had

early waking issues, but i was eating a lot of fish and shellfish and

prawns, the fish has mercury and shellfish and prawns are high in

arsenic

arsenic displaces selenium so may mean that T4 isn't able to convert

to T3 in sufficent quantity

i stopped eating fish, shellfish and prawns totally and additionally

added metafolin to my supplement regime and also take a tiny amount

of msm once every six days to improve cell permeability

i never had amalgam fillings

i now seem to be able to utilise much larger amounts of iodine

hair tests are very useful in identifying toxic metals

> >

> > >

> > > I don't know how iodine could stress your thyroid

> > > gland! I don't understand why but TSH seems to rise

> > > on Iodoral. I should check mine I guess b/c it has

> > > been .06 and even very low without thyroid meds. I

> > > don't thnk you should worry if you are feeling OK,

> > > do you take thyroid meds? I think Brownstien

> > > recommends iodine for hashis.

> > > Gracia

> > >

> > > Hi everyone--

> > >

> > > I have been on 50mgs of iodoral for approximately

> > > three weeks. I pretty much jumped right in with

> > > the

> > > dosage: one tablet the first day, two the second;

> > > then right on with the 50mg the third day.

> > >

> > > I had my TSH tested last week, along with a host

> > > of

> > > other hormone levels. I was surprised that my TSH

> > > jumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.

> > > I have Hashimotos.

> > >

> > > I believe I had read some posts that indicated

> > > people

> > > with Hashimotos should be careful with dosing

> > > iodoral,

> > > but other posts that said 'no problem' with taking

> > > iodine. Since I had a goiter, I figured I might as

> > > well take the iodine. Could the 50mgs have been

> > > too

> > > much and is it possible that it is stressing my

> > > thyroid and making me more hypo?

> > > thanks.

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

, could you please describe your " compendium approach " to

avoiding hormones?

Thanks,

-

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

>

> a possibility is you are getting to much iodine and going hypo

> because of it, hence the rise in tsh

>

> you can cut tablets right down like 1/20th or so, even down to

1/50th

>

> not exact but you just sort of eye it and get the hang of it

>

> also iodine use by the body is a biochemical chain, you need other

> minerals etc in place to covert from t4 to t3, place it properly

in

> the thyroid, right through to mito switching in the cells

>

> then there are cell permeability issues

>

> but imo 50mg is way over the top

>

> the trouble with hormone supplementation is the body is

continually

> scaling each hormone in relation to oethrs and its a very dynamic

> process that taking hormones doesn't match, especially in respect

of

> synthroid and brain blood flow

> this is why estrogen supplementation doesn't work

>

> my compendium approach with its fine detail supplementation feeds

the

> natural pathways of the body, its complex but there is no other

way

> to get the body to start to work on that scaling again

>

> unless the thyroid is so damaged or is removed or rai'ed in which

> case you need hormones, but even then you have to supplement for

> further downstream utilisation of iodine

[Guest guest]

>>>Why do you think that iodine causes mineral loss and stress?

My body is under some stress with this much iodine and the need for

minerals

> is very high right now...could be the same with you. Are you taking

a really good multi?

>

[Guest guest]

interesting blog, nice to see some decent quality vegetables and

fruits and some very pleasant looking dishes

compendium is synergy of supplements and diet, you get there by a lot

of additive effects and not some single supplement like say iodine.

i would assume from those superb looking dishes that u are

vegetarian, but since hormones are made from prostaglandins which in

turn come from animal cholesterol there are going to be hormone

issues if u are on a vegan/vegetarian diet

in fact i have a new form of scd called biofilm_scd that i use and

its quite animal oriented as well as decent vegetables.

there is a board of ex vegetarians who have moved over to scd and

bio_film scd, also using enzymes

openblooms/

and my board

who_knows/

> >

> > a possibility is you are getting to much iodine and going hypo

> > because of it, hence the rise in tsh

> >

> > you can cut tablets right down like 1/20th or so, even down to

> 1/50th

> >

> > not exact but you just sort of eye it and get the hang of it

> >

> > also iodine use by the body is a biochemical chain, you need

other

> > minerals etc in place to covert from t4 to t3, place it properly

> in

> > the thyroid, right through to mito switching in the cells

> >

> > then there are cell permeability issues

> >

> > but imo 50mg is way over the top

> >

> > the trouble with hormone supplementation is the body is

> continually

> > scaling each hormone in relation to oethrs and its a very dynamic

> > process that taking hormones doesn't match, especially in

respect

> of

> > synthroid and brain blood flow

> > this is why estrogen supplementation doesn't work

> >

> > my compendium approach with its fine detail supplementation feeds

> the

> > natural pathways of the body, its complex but there is no other

> way

> > to get the body to start to work on that scaling again

> >

> > unless the thyroid is so damaged or is removed or rai'ed in which

> > case you need hormones, but even then you have to supplement for

> > further downstream utilisation of iodine

>

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> > a possibility is you are getting to much iodine and going hypo

> > because of it, hence the rise in tsh

Or it could be it repairs pituitary function. Imagine if you werent'

getting enough iodine, your pituitary keeps putting out TSH, but the thyroid

doesn't have enough iodine to work with. Eventually, you become hypothyroid

(maybe even develop a goiter) and maybe the pituitary simply can't put out

the amount of TSH it really should be, because like every other organ in the

body it needs thyroid hormone, or it can't function adequately.

If it was simply making you more hypothyroid, I would think that would be

evidenced by decreasing levels of T4 and T3. It may only be asking for more

hormones, because it can now do so.

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[Guest guest]

I am taking a lot of supplements right now, but I take

them in fairly quick succession, so I guess I could be

preventing one or the other from absorbing just by

when I am taking them. I am working on my iron

anemia; I'm taking liquid B12 (1200mcg).

I have been wondering why I haven't experienced any

kind of iodoral toxic-cleansing on the 50 mgs. I have

noticed virtually nothing from taking iodine, except

for some 'heat' feeling behind my eyes--hard to

describe, but I never felt warmth behind my eyes

before taking iodoral.

The other supplements I am taking (any and all advice

is appreciated, including suggested times to take them

if I'm doing something wrong):

50mg iodoral

200mcg selenium (I thought that helped with iodoral

absorption)

acidophilus in the morning

3 tablets of spirulina 2x day, I then do morning and

night

solaray adrenal caps

CoQ10 (50 mgs)

Vitamin E (400iu)

folic acid (800mcg)

beta carotene (25,000iu)

and a super B maxi

5mg DHEA

I try to remember to take an omega 3 fish oil

supplement, but don't always remember.

I've been trying to take a tsp of cod liver oil a

day--have been for about a month.

I take 40 drops of an adrenal support tonic in water

every day.

I don't always, but try to take 1 tsp of vitamin C

powder in juice daily (which is 4200mg);

And I try to remember to have celtic sea salt, about

1/4 tsp a day in water.

Thank you!

--- <kennio@...> wrote:

> Are you taking the other supplements that Brownstein

> advises like magnesium and vitamin C? How

> about sea salt? I strongly suggest therapeutic

> dosing of EPA/DHA including cod liver oil. An

> essential fatty acid found in high levels in the

> thyroid and useful in rejuvenating and defatting

> the liver called Phosphatidylcholine could also be

> useful to you.

>

> Are you working to cure the other deficiencies you

> noted in your post? I have Hashi's and started

> right in with 50 mg and felt minimal effects only

> later to find out I was not absorbing it. Now

> on 100 mg I do believe I am absorbing it and

> detoxing effectively with a much higher salt,

> vitamin

> and mineral intake. My body is under some stress

> with this much iodine and the need for minerals

> is very high right now...could be the same with you.

> Are you taking a really good multi?

>

> --- Regis <vegan_mamma@...> wrote:

>

> > No, I am not on thyroid meds since I decided to

> put

> > all my hopes in iodoral to begin. I had no idea

> > taking it might raise my TSH. I can't say I feel

> all

> > that great since I'm anemic, low in B12, and

> cortisol.

> > too much to keep track of, really.

> > I was concerned that I might be inducing hypo

> > symptoms.

> >

> > --- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > I don't know how iodine could stress your

> thyroid

> > > gland! I don't understand why but TSH seems to

> rise

> > > on Iodoral. I should check mine I guess b/c it

> has

> > > been .06 and even very low without thyroid meds.

> I

> > > don't thnk you should worry if you are feeling

> OK,

> > > do you take thyroid meds? I think Brownstien

> > > recommends iodine for hashis.

> > > Gracia

> > >

> > > Hi everyone--

> > >

> > > I have been on 50mgs of iodoral for

> approximately

> > > three weeks. I pretty much jumped right in

> with

> > > the

> > > dosage: one tablet the first day, two the

> second;

> > > then right on with the 50mg the third day.

> > >

> > > I had my TSH tested last week, along with a

> host

> > > of

> > > other hormone levels. I was surprised that my

> TSH

> > > jumped up to over 5 when in May it was 1.97.

> > > I have Hashimotos.

> > >

> > > I believe I had read some posts that indicated

> > > people

> > > with Hashimotos should be careful with dosing

> > > iodoral,

> > > but other posts that said 'no problem' with

> taking

> > > iodine. Since I had a goiter, I figured I

> might as

> > > well take the iodine. Could the 50mgs have

> been

> > > too

> > > much and is it possible that it is stressing

> my

> > > thyroid and making me more hypo?

> > > thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

- Can you tell me more about this adrenal support?? Brand name,

OTC or Rx and why you take it??

Thanks

Terry

>

> >

I take 40 drops of an adrenal support tonic in water

> every day.

>

[Guest guest]

I would associate your symptoms with low adrenals.

Gracia

I wish I could agree with Gracia here but unfortunately I can't. I now have highly elevated thyroglobulin antibodies and hyper symptoms after starting iodine in January. There are lots of things we don't know yet about iodine - especially when happens when it interacts with damaged thyroids and possible mineral deficiencies (besides selenium and magnesium). I'm not at the point where I can make any recommendations on this topic at all but I do think we all need to balance risks and benefits individually as one size clearly is not fitting all. Sharon

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[Guest guest]

and I would associate your low adrenals with mineral deficiency... so there. ;-)

--- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> I would associate your symptoms with low adrenals.

> Gracia

>

>

> I wish I could agree with Gracia here but unfortunately I can't. I

> now have highly elevated thyroglobulin antibodies and hyper symptoms

> after starting iodine in January.

>

> There are lots of things we don't know yet about iodine - especially

> when happens when it interacts with damaged thyroids and possible

> mineral deficiencies (besides selenium and magnesium).

>

> I'm not at the point where I can make any recommendations on this

> topic at all but I do think we all need to balance risks and

> benefits individually as one size clearly is not fitting all.

>

> Sharon

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Gracia & ,

I tend to agree with you both! I'm on Cortef now and am waiting for

my RBC analysis. But as I don't think I'm that unusual in my adrenal

and mineral status, my comments still stand - iodine is not risk

free. Which is not to say that I'm against it - far from it. Even

with my current problems I have benefited tremendously. But I do

think it is best that we all go at this with our eyes open,

acknowledging the problems as they come about so hopefully others

can benefit.

Thanks both for your always interesting suggestions and postings.

Sharon

>

> >

> > I would associate your symptoms with low adrenals.

> > Gracia

> >

> >

> > I wish I could agree with Gracia here but unfortunately I

can't. I

> > now have highly elevated thyroglobulin antibodies and hyper

symptoms

> > after starting iodine in January.

> >

> > There are lots of things we don't know yet about iodine -

especially

> > when happens when it interacts with damaged thyroids and

possible

> > mineral deficiencies (besides selenium and magnesium).

> >

> > I'm not at the point where I can make any recommendations on

this

> > topic at all but I do think we all need to balance risks and

> > benefits individually as one size clearly is not fitting all.

> >

> > Sharon

[Guest guest]

>From: " sharflin " <sharflin@...>

>Gracia & ,

>I tend to agree with you both! I'm on Cortef now and am waiting for

>my RBC analysis. But as I don't think I'm that unusual in my adrenal

>and mineral status, my comments still stand - iodine is not risk

>free. Which is not to say that I'm against it - far from it. Even

>with my current problems I have benefited tremendously. But I do

>think it is best that we all go at this with our eyes open,

>acknowledging the problems as they come about so hopefully others

>can benefit.

>Thanks both for your always interesting suggestions and postings.

>Sharon

Did you have antibodies before you started the iodine?

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[Guest guest]

I blame my low adrenals on low cholesterol. What mineral would you blame

that on? Didn't you say you also had low cholesterol?

Skipper

>From: <kennio@...>

>and I would associate your low adrenals with mineral deficiency... so

>there. ;-)

>

>--- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > I would associate your symptoms with low adrenals.

> > Gracia

> >

> >

> > I wish I could agree with Gracia here but unfortunately I can't. I

> > now have highly elevated thyroglobulin antibodies and hyper symptoms

> > after starting iodine in January.

> >

> > There are lots of things we don't know yet about iodine - especially

> > when happens when it interacts with damaged thyroids and possible

> > mineral deficiencies (besides selenium and magnesium).

> >

> > I'm not at the point where I can make any recommendations on this

> > topic at all but I do think we all need to balance risks and

> > benefits individually as one size clearly is not fitting all.

> >

> > Sharon

> >

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I have never thought much about my cholesterol being a potential problem until

recently since

several doctors over the years have stated that they envied my cholesterol level

of 130. I do

know that since I have been trying to re-mineralize myself over the last 18

months or so, that my

level has risen to 160.

I think that cholesterol levels being tied to minerals and vitamins is most

dramatically

illustrated in the dramatic drop in cholesterol levels in women who have given

birth.

" We might propose that changes in endocrine milieu, insulin resistance, or other

factors of body

fat distribution after a first birth may affect HDL cholesterol levels in women

of reproductive

age, "

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYD/is_15_38/ai_107275663

This particular phenomenon shows low cholesterol being a symptom of body out of

balance. This low

cholesterol is an unnatural state that most definitely increases the risk of

heart disease, stroke

and depression. I know the article doesn't suggest minerals and vitamins might

be the cause but

then I find that is usually the last thing checked for some reason. It just

might be as simple as

`across the board loss of minerals causes low cholesterol'. Linus ing

believed all disease

was caused by mineral deficiency and I wholeheartedly agree. Nothing will knock

the nutrients out

of you like childbirth.

Women suffer bone loss if they breast feed, many die of magnesium deficiency

during childbirth.

It sure seems to indicate that the body is issuing a lot of it minerals stores

to the infant or

being lost due to the stress of child bearing. Hence the need for the potent

prenatal vitamins.

There are many theories for the postpartum depression but it seems tied up in

there nutritionally

somewhere.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi13.htm

I have read more than one description (even here) of the onset of adrenal

fatigue (and

thyroiditis) being brought on by extreme emotional or physical distress. This

is a classic

mineral loss scenario, as is childbirth. I have read of huge release of

minerals into the blood

of people in the hours after chiropractic adjustments let alone weeks and months

of chronic

stress.

--- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote:

>

> I blame my low adrenals on low cholesterol. What mineral would you blame

> that on? Didn't you say you also had low cholesterol?

>

> Skipper

>

> >From: <kennio@...>

>

> >and I would associate your low adrenals with mineral deficiency... so

> >there. ;-)

> >

> >--- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > I would associate your symptoms with low adrenals.

> > > Gracia

> > >

> > >

> > > I wish I could agree with Gracia here but unfortunately I can't. I

> > > now have highly elevated thyroglobulin antibodies and hyper symptoms

> > > after starting iodine in January.

> > >

> > > There are lots of things we don't know yet about iodine - especially

> > > when happens when it interacts with damaged thyroids and possible

> > > mineral deficiencies (besides selenium and magnesium).

> > >

> > > I'm not at the point where I can make any recommendations on this

> > > topic at all but I do think we all need to balance risks and

> > > benefits individually as one size clearly is not fitting all.

> > >

> > > Sharon

> > >

> > >

> > > Recent Activity

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> > >

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Skipper,

> Did you have antibodies before you started the iodine?

Two years ago, Thyrogobulin AB was 8 (range <2). My doc at the time

consulted with an endo, and the conclusion was " this is most

consistant with thyroid hormone resistance and not thyroiditis. " Wish

one of us had thought to suggest retesting.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Sure--

I went to my local health food store to talk with

their diet specialist and she recommended it as the

best adrenal support they had, so I'm only going on

her recommendation.

It is called 'Adrenal Support Tonic Compound;

Eleuthero/Licorice Compound' by Herb Pharm

contents: Eleuthero root, licrorice root, oat 'milky'

seed, sarsaparilla root, prickly ash bark

It says you can take 30-40 drops in a little water 2

xs a day, but since I'm taking the solaray adrenal

supplements, I only do it once.

--- Terry McNew <tmcnew1@...> wrote:

> - Can you tell me more about this adrenal

> support?? Brand name,

> OTC or Rx and why you take it??

>

> Thanks

>

> Terry

>

>

> >

> > >

> I take 40 drops of an adrenal support tonic in water

> > every day.

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

hmmmm

I would blame low cholesterol on low adrenals (I have low cholesterol too). Maybe I would blame my low adrenals on low iodine. I have taken other minerals for years and years, since I saw Carl Pfeiffer MD at Brain Bio Center in Princeton NJ. You know he was a fan of dolomite.

Gracia

I blame my low adrenals on low cholesterol. What mineral would you blame that on? Didn't you say you also had low cholesterol?Skipper>From: <kennio >>and I would associate your low adrenals with mineral deficiency... so >there. ;-)>

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well I am sure you will figure it out and feel better soon. If you are labeled hyper however, doc will want to put you on iodine blocker! or destroy your thyroid gland! Do you feel better on cortef?

Gracia

Gracia & ,I tend to agree with you both! I'm on Cortef now and am waiting for my RBC analysis. But as I don't think I'm that unusual in my adrenal and mineral status, my comments still stand - iodine is not risk free. Which is not to say that I'm against it - far from it. Even with my current problems I have benefited tremendously. But I do think it is best that we all go at this with our eyes open, acknowledging the problems as they come about so hopefully others can benefit. Thanks both for your always interesting suggestions and postings.Sharon

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